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Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime

Transformers News: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime

Saturday, February 6th, 2010 2:32PM CST

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Seibertron.com members Sabrblade and Autobot032 inform us that the writers of Transformers The Movie (2007) and Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci are involved in the upcoming cartoon series "Transformers: Prime". But that#s not all as we now have confirmation of the series being CGI.
Kurtzman and Orci, who are working on a "Star Trek" sequel and the Daniel Craig starrer "Cowboys and Aliens" on the feature side, continue to serve as consulting producers on "Fringe" and are executive producers on CBS/CBS Studios' "Hawaii 5-0," which they co-wrote with Peter Lenkov, and on the "Transformers" CG-animated series for upcoming Hasbro/Discovery channel the Hub.

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Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044630)
Posted by Name_Violation on February 6th, 2010 @ 2:54pm CST
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Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044632)
Posted by Mkall on February 6th, 2010 @ 2:57pm CST
Star Trek Turned out awesome, ROTF... less so.

I suppose this could go either way, it all depends on the demographic they're aiming it towards.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044633)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:00pm CST
What the hell hasbro
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044635)
Posted by Dead Metal on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:03pm CST
Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE[/youtube]
And
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ[/youtube]

God these new tags are fun. :grin:
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044640)
Posted by Redimus on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:13pm CST
Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Mkall wrote:Star Trek Turned out awesome, ROTF... less so.

I suppose this could go either way, it all depends on the demographic they're aiming it towards.


Star Trek was ruined (for me at least) by some terrible plot holes, for instance the Black hole which randomly changes how it affects the things that go through it (one minute it destroys the things, the next it sends them back through time) and how is the mining ship able to destroy the federation ship at the beginning so easily? Yeah, sure, it's a lot more modern, but it's a MINING SHIP... (And whilst we're on the subject of that ship, although this is probably not the writer's fault, WTF was going on with that mining ship? The thing had *NO HULL*, just an assortment of random bits. How did they keep the atmosphere in?)

Also, both the TF movies were very poorly written, if you take the first half of the first one, and the second half of the second one, you *might* have managed an actually decent movie, but I doubt it.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044644)
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:23pm CST
Just keep in mind, folks, that the primary reason ROTF sucked as much as it did is because of Bay not keeping his mouth shut and going along with what these two had penned out. Everything that folks had grievances with regarding ROTF (the Twins being little punk-asses, the irritating and numerous crotch "jokes", Devy's anatomical correctness, etc.) was all Bays fault. These guys are TF fans who know their stuff, do actual research if they are unsure of a given TF point and are a hell of a lot more committed to preserving the integrity of the TF brand than Mikey ever will be. I say it's worth seeing what they come up with. Whatever it turns out to be, it will be better (or at least easier to sit through) than ROTF was. (and BTW, both of them are/were fairly steamed about how the scripts got butchered for both films which probably had a lot to do with them bailing on TF3)

My greatest hope is that with this new show being all CG that Discovery/Hasbro throw a LOT of money into the tech being used on it and go a level above what some of todays standard CG cartoons are which aren't much better than Beast Wars despite the advances in tech between then and now.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044648)
Posted by Didicos on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:28pm CST
So the new series is going to be something like Cyberton/Galaxy Force.CG cartoons with big holes.In Cybertron there was a big black hole and in Prime there will be big plot holes..!
:BANG_HEAD:
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044653)
Posted by Burn on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:40pm CST
T-Macksimus wrote:These guys are TF fans who know their stuff, do actual research if they are unsure of a given TF point and are a hell of a lot more committed to preserving the integrity of the TF brand than Mikey ever will be.


Funny, I thought they were talentless hacks who haven't really come up with an original idea of their own.

Star Trek? Pre-existing material.
Transformers? Pre-existing material.
Fringe? X-Files rip-off (and I like Fringe!)
Hawaii 5-0? Re-make!

So you'll forgive me if I think of them as nothing more than a pair of guys who just like cash being thrown at them to look back at something and re-make it for a modern audience.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044660)
Posted by Solrac333 on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:11pm CST
Great! That means TF:Prime will have nothing BUT humans.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044661)
Posted by Solrac333 on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:12pm CST
Burn wrote:
T-Macksimus wrote:These guys are TF fans who know their stuff, do actual research if they are unsure of a given TF point and are a hell of a lot more committed to preserving the integrity of the TF brand than Mikey ever will be.


Funny, I thought they were talentless hacks who haven't really come up with an original idea of their own.

Star Trek? Pre-existing material.
Transformers? Pre-existing material.
Fringe? X-Files rip-off (and I like Fringe!)
Hawaii 5-0? Re-make!

So you'll forgive me if I think of them as nothing more than a pair of guys who just like cash being thrown at them to look back at something and re-make it for a modern audience.


...and destroy canon.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044674)
Posted by Rodimus_NZ on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:39pm CST
Posted by Redimus GTS on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:13pm CST

Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Mkall wrote:Star Trek Turned out awesome, ROTF... less so.

I suppose this could go either way, it all depends on the demographic they're aiming it towards.


Star Trek was ruined (for me at least) by some terrible plot holes, for instance the Black hole which randomly changes how it affects the things that go through it (one minute it destroys the things, the next it sends them back through time) and how is the mining ship able to destroy the federation ship at the beginning so easily? Yeah, sure, it's a lot more modern, but it's a MINING SHIP... (And whilst we're on the subject of that ship, although this is probably not the writer's fault, WTF was going on with that mining ship? The thing had *NO HULL*, just an assortment of random bits. How did they keep the atmosphere in?)

Also, both the TF movies were very poorly written, if you take the first half of the first one, and the second half of the second one, you *might* have managed an actually decent movie, but I doubt it.

The prequel comic explained how the Mining Ship was so powerful. Apparently Nemo upgraded it with Borg technology plus even though it might not look armoured it still would have 24th century shields which wouldve definately held out against 23rd century weapons. And about the whole black hole thing. Ships could always travel through time if the black hole was targeted at space instead of in a planet. No debris or crushing gravity well, A ships shields could protect it from the gravity effects. (supposedly anyway :P)
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044678)
Posted by Alex Jones on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:58pm CST
I second the whole Star Trek was ruined for me. While I would expect Transformers to be a wham bam thank you maam type of movie, I was expecting a lot more from Star Trek. There is something definitely missing from the latest Star Trek movie that some of the best previous Star Trek movies had - intelligence, thoughtfulness, to name a few. And yeah the time travel-parallel universe was completely hokey and retarded, especially since Star Trek has already stated that no parallel universes are created when altered. If they wanted to, they should have done a reboot instead of making some time travel-parallel universe excuse. And yeah the cadet to Captain of Flagship was just ridiculous.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044685)
Posted by Name_Violation on February 6th, 2010 @ 5:07pm CST
hey, once Leonard Nimoy showed up and went "Nah dudes, its cool" i totally accepted the new star trek movie. it was Spock endorsed and approved, and thats good enough for me. Never argue with a Vulcan (even a half Vulcan)
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044695)
Posted by Down_Shift on February 6th, 2010 @ 5:32pm CST
I'm more let down by the CGI thing then those two being involved. Like it says, they are just involved. Doesn't mean they are flat out writing the thing. Producers probably wanted some ideas to get script, VAs, characters and such running.

Animated had decent animation, but I honestly thought they would go with a more mature look for the next show. Think the animation used for Green Lantern: First Flight or any of the DC Animated Movies. Or even whatever studio did Resolute. Feels like CG is a huge step backwards.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044713)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 6th, 2010 @ 6:55pm CST
DAMN IT NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! this has crushed all my hope of a new good show!!!!! :sad: :sad: :BANG_HEAD: :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044714)
Posted by Solrac333 on February 6th, 2010 @ 7:04pm CST
...AND it's CG TOO!

Man, I really hope it's not silly like animated and horrible CG like beast wars. Was really hoping for a more resolute style of animation.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044721)
Posted by cybercat on February 6th, 2010 @ 7:52pm CST
Hmmmmmmm, while my initial reaction to this is to basically repeate N_V's...articulate response, with a side order of Burn, rereading it, if the sentence is grammatically accurate (could be a big *if*) they're only going to be executive producers of the show--as opposed to actual day to day writers.

Still, this is...displeasing news.

HK. crabby.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044739)
Posted by ConBotFormer on February 6th, 2010 @ 8:37pm CST
You see!! This is why I say...ANYBODY CAN WRITE OR MAKE MOVIES!!! ANYBODY CAN DO IT!!!!!!!! sigh...great...man it's taking 3, 3!!! F***ing movies for Bay to "say" he's going to do this and that. He as well as these writers should have done with the first two. It doesn't matter how good of a writer you are or director. If you don't know somebody in Hollywood, you'll never get into that inbred industry. I really hope they don't screw up the show. :roll: What next, we find out that Bay is directing the show. :roll:
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044741)
Posted by SoooTrypticon on February 6th, 2010 @ 8:44pm CST
Star Trek was a mess. The entire plot revolved around what can only be explained as "Spock drives too slow."

Seriously. They make some super ship- knowing full well planets are gonna get eaten by a supernova. Meanwhile the people on those planets choose not to evacuate.

Spock drives to the sun, and on the way "somehow" the Supernova happens anyway, (early. too fast? Spock too slow?).

Lazy writing like that ruined the entire movie- which makes me sad because all the actors were trying so hard.

Also something to note- stupid giant inflatable hands joke crept in there- which seems to be in keeping with the same dumb humor in Transformers- so it can't all be Bay's fault.

Not promising.

The title also makes me worried that this will be an "extreme" makeover for the TFs, with the word "Prime" just replacing "extreme."
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044751)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 6th, 2010 @ 9:33pm CST
SoooTrypticon wrote:The title also makes me worried that this will be an "extreme" makeover for the TFs, with the word "Prime" just replacing "extreme."
Now I'm getting flashbacks to the commercials of G.I. Joe Extreme. :roll:
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044758)
Posted by SlyTF1 on February 6th, 2010 @ 9:51pm CST
Damnit! **** :sad: **** :BANG_HEAD: **** :CON: **** :evil: ******* :BOOM: I hae cartoons that are CG!!! I really f*kn hate them! CG is the reason I hate Beast Machines, Energon, and Cybertron! Beast Wars wasnt too bad, mostly cuz they were shiney as hell! Damnit, I pray that this is not true! Just know that if it is...I wont watch it. I may watch the first episode, but if that sucks, I guess Ill have to slit then burn my wrists. Im always going on about, if you dont like the new TF movies, then why the hell are you still a fan, but now, I understand!
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044761)
Posted by Elita One on February 6th, 2010 @ 10:07pm CST
Couldn't find any competent writers for this? Thought that Larry DiTillio and Bob Forward did a great job on Beast Wars use them. Those complaining about the CG in Beast Wars ya gotta remember it was one of the first CG shows on TV so it has historic value.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044875)
Posted by Moon Bug on February 7th, 2010 @ 7:08am CST
Dead Metal wrote:
Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE[/youtube]


This is exactly the way that I felt.

I am wondering if the CGI will be similar to the new game, and if story wise they will both be linked. Prime sounds like it could be an origin style of cartoon. And if this is the case then this would be a big mistake to use these two. Well a bigger mistake than using them at all is.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1044955)
Posted by YRQRM0 on February 7th, 2010 @ 10:13am CST
Well, my expectations just plummeted. I just hope this won't be screwed up, and it will work well.....

As for it being CGI, as much as I loved Cybertron, I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping for 2D, but not in cartoony style like Animated, like in a semi-realistic style like Armada. I wonder though if it will be entirely CGI, or like Cybertron where Earth and humans and such are 2D. I hope it's entirely CGI, but like the clone wars, where it looks more professional. But also, not like the clone wars, where they all turn into caricatures and stuff, but where they look normal but with awesome animation.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1045100)
Posted by MYoung23 on February 7th, 2010 @ 4:43pm CST
CG for a weekly animated show = fail.

The bar has been raised since the days of Beast Wars and Reboot. I have no desire to see a Transformers show that looks like "Back at the Barnyard" or the "Penguins of Madagascar" It is either Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within or Advent Children quality or bust for me.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1045176)
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 7th, 2010 @ 9:12pm CST
CGI...
Is it me or do most CGI works look the same? I'm surprised Space Chimps and Planet 51 are neither Dreamworks nor Disney, nor are they from the same studio as each other either.
Contrast with 2D animation, where you couldn't possibly mistaken something like Flapjack or Teen Titans for SpongeBob cartoon.

Burn wrote:Funny, I thought they were talentless hacks who haven't really come up with an original idea of their own.

Star Trek? Pre-existing material.
Transformers? Pre-existing material.
Fringe? X-Files rip-off (and I like Fringe!)
Hawaii 5-0? Re-make!

So you'll forgive me if I think of them as nothing more than a pair of guys who just like cash being thrown at them to look back at something and re-make it for a modern audience.


That's hardly fair. Nothing is new these days, not just what these guys have done.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1045436)
Posted by Dagon on February 8th, 2010 @ 5:29pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote:Damnit! **** :sad: **** :BANG_HEAD: **** :CON: **** :evil: ******* :BOOM: I hae cartoons that are CG!!! I really f*kn hate them! CG is the reason I hate Beast Machines, Energon, and Cybertron! Beast Wars wasnt too bad, mostly cuz they were shiney as hell! Damnit, I pray that this is not true! Just know that if it is...I wont watch it. I may watch the first episode, but if that sucks, I guess Ill have to slit then burn my wrists. Im always going on about, if you dont like the new TF movies, then why the hell are you still a fan, but now, I understand!



Well, here's a rational response. :lol:

Seriously Sly, as awful as this news is, don't take it too hard, alright? The reason people who don't like the new movies are still fans of the franchise is because the franchise offers 25 other years of things to be fans of. As lame as the movies have been, they're not bad enough to make me think I have to give up something I've enjoyed for the last 25 years of my life.

On to this cartoon news, I'm going to take the opposite track from Sly here and agree with some of the other opinions.

A) I'm ok with the CG, but I'd prefer the Beast-era Mainframe CG to the Japanese versions we've gotten recently.
B)I liked the last Star Trek film.....
C) These two guys are baffoons. Not only do they tell crap stories that seem like they were written by five year olds pretending to be seven year olds, but they just are not interesting. Boo to this news.
Re: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime (1045615)
Posted by Cyberstrike on February 9th, 2010 @ 8:49am CST
SoooTrypticon wrote:Star Trek was a mess. The entire plot revolved around what can only be explained as "Spock drives too slow."

Seriously. They make some super ship- knowing full well planets are gonna get eaten by a supernova. Meanwhile the people on those planets choose not to evacuate.

Spock drives to the sun, and on the way "somehow" the Supernova happens anyway, (early. too fast? Spock too slow?).

Lazy writing like that ruined the entire movie- which makes me sad because all the actors were trying so hard.

Also something to note- stupid giant inflatable hands joke crept in there- which seems to be in keeping with the same dumb humor in Transformers- so it can't all be Bay's fault.

Not promising.

The title also makes me worried that this will be an "extreme" makeover for the TFs, with the word "Prime" just replacing "extreme."



I agree 100% Star Trek 11 was average at best and just lame at worse. It had the worse music score of all the 09 summer movies.

One of the things that I always wanted to see in a Star Trek movie or TV show was when Kirk saw the Enterprise for the very first time in his life. Say what you want about Shatner's acting ablity he did a great job of showing that in the first two Star Trek movies, and when we get there in Star Trek 11 what do we get?
A lame barf joke.

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