Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci involved in Transformers: Prime
Saturday, February 6th, 2010 2:32PM CST
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Kurtzman and Orci, who are working on a "Star Trek" sequel and the Daniel Craig starrer "Cowboys and Aliens" on the feature side, continue to serve as consulting producers on "Fringe" and are executive producers on CBS/CBS Studios' "Hawaii 5-0," which they co-wrote with Peter Lenkov, and on the "Transformers" CG-animated series for upcoming Hasbro/Discovery channel the Hub.
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Posted by Name_Violation on February 6th, 2010 @ 2:54pm CST
Posted by Mkall on February 6th, 2010 @ 2:57pm CST
I suppose this could go either way, it all depends on the demographic they're aiming it towards.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:00pm CST
Posted by Dead Metal on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:03pm CST
Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE[/youtube]
And
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsbYx6hevoQ[/youtube]
God these new tags are fun.
Posted by Redimus on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:13pm CST
Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mkall wrote:Star Trek Turned out awesome, ROTF... less so.
I suppose this could go either way, it all depends on the demographic they're aiming it towards.
Star Trek was ruined (for me at least) by some terrible plot holes, for instance the Black hole which randomly changes how it affects the things that go through it (one minute it destroys the things, the next it sends them back through time) and how is the mining ship able to destroy the federation ship at the beginning so easily? Yeah, sure, it's a lot more modern, but it's a MINING SHIP... (And whilst we're on the subject of that ship, although this is probably not the writer's fault, WTF was going on with that mining ship? The thing had *NO HULL*, just an assortment of random bits. How did they keep the atmosphere in?)
Also, both the TF movies were very poorly written, if you take the first half of the first one, and the second half of the second one, you *might* have managed an actually decent movie, but I doubt it.
Posted by T-Macksimus on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:23pm CST
My greatest hope is that with this new show being all CG that Discovery/Hasbro throw a LOT of money into the tech being used on it and go a level above what some of todays standard CG cartoons are which aren't much better than Beast Wars despite the advances in tech between then and now.
Posted by Didicos on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:28pm CST
Posted by Burn on February 6th, 2010 @ 3:40pm CST
T-Macksimus wrote:These guys are TF fans who know their stuff, do actual research if they are unsure of a given TF point and are a hell of a lot more committed to preserving the integrity of the TF brand than Mikey ever will be.
Funny, I thought they were talentless hacks who haven't really come up with an original idea of their own.
Star Trek? Pre-existing material.
Transformers? Pre-existing material.
Fringe? X-Files rip-off (and I like Fringe!)
Hawaii 5-0? Re-make!
So you'll forgive me if I think of them as nothing more than a pair of guys who just like cash being thrown at them to look back at something and re-make it for a modern audience.
Posted by Solrac333 on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:11pm CST
Posted by Solrac333 on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:12pm CST
Burn wrote:T-Macksimus wrote:These guys are TF fans who know their stuff, do actual research if they are unsure of a given TF point and are a hell of a lot more committed to preserving the integrity of the TF brand than Mikey ever will be.
Funny, I thought they were talentless hacks who haven't really come up with an original idea of their own.
Star Trek? Pre-existing material.
Transformers? Pre-existing material.
Fringe? X-Files rip-off (and I like Fringe!)
Hawaii 5-0? Re-make!
So you'll forgive me if I think of them as nothing more than a pair of guys who just like cash being thrown at them to look back at something and re-make it for a modern audience.
...and destroy canon.
Posted by Rodimus_NZ on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:39pm CST
Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mkall wrote:Star Trek Turned out awesome, ROTF... less so.
I suppose this could go either way, it all depends on the demographic they're aiming it towards.
Star Trek was ruined (for me at least) by some terrible plot holes, for instance the Black hole which randomly changes how it affects the things that go through it (one minute it destroys the things, the next it sends them back through time) and how is the mining ship able to destroy the federation ship at the beginning so easily? Yeah, sure, it's a lot more modern, but it's a MINING SHIP... (And whilst we're on the subject of that ship, although this is probably not the writer's fault, WTF was going on with that mining ship? The thing had *NO HULL*, just an assortment of random bits. How did they keep the atmosphere in?)
Also, both the TF movies were very poorly written, if you take the first half of the first one, and the second half of the second one, you *might* have managed an actually decent movie, but I doubt it.
The prequel comic explained how the Mining Ship was so powerful. Apparently Nemo upgraded it with Borg technology plus even though it might not look armoured it still would have 24th century shields which wouldve definately held out against 23rd century weapons. And about the whole black hole thing. Ships could always travel through time if the black hole was targeted at space instead of in a planet. No debris or crushing gravity well, A ships shields could protect it from the gravity effects. (supposedly anyway )
Posted by Alex Jones on February 6th, 2010 @ 4:58pm CST
Posted by Name_Violation on February 6th, 2010 @ 5:07pm CST
Posted by Down_Shift on February 6th, 2010 @ 5:32pm CST
Animated had decent animation, but I honestly thought they would go with a more mature look for the next show. Think the animation used for Green Lantern: First Flight or any of the DC Animated Movies. Or even whatever studio did Resolute. Feels like CG is a huge step backwards.
Posted by Doubledealer93 on February 6th, 2010 @ 6:55pm CST
Posted by Solrac333 on February 6th, 2010 @ 7:04pm CST
Man, I really hope it's not silly like animated and horrible CG like beast wars. Was really hoping for a more resolute style of animation.
Posted by cybercat on February 6th, 2010 @ 7:52pm CST
Still, this is...displeasing news.
HK. crabby.
Posted by ConBotFormer on February 6th, 2010 @ 8:37pm CST
Posted by SoooTrypticon on February 6th, 2010 @ 8:44pm CST
Seriously. They make some super ship- knowing full well planets are gonna get eaten by a supernova. Meanwhile the people on those planets choose not to evacuate.
Spock drives to the sun, and on the way "somehow" the Supernova happens anyway, (early. too fast? Spock too slow?).
Lazy writing like that ruined the entire movie- which makes me sad because all the actors were trying so hard.
Also something to note- stupid giant inflatable hands joke crept in there- which seems to be in keeping with the same dumb humor in Transformers- so it can't all be Bay's fault.
Not promising.
The title also makes me worried that this will be an "extreme" makeover for the TFs, with the word "Prime" just replacing "extreme."
Posted by Sabrblade on February 6th, 2010 @ 9:33pm CST
Now I'm getting flashbacks to the commercials of G.I. Joe Extreme.SoooTrypticon wrote:The title also makes me worried that this will be an "extreme" makeover for the TFs, with the word "Prime" just replacing "extreme."
Posted by SlyTF1 on February 6th, 2010 @ 9:51pm CST
Posted by Elita One on February 6th, 2010 @ 10:07pm CST
Posted by Moon Bug on February 7th, 2010 @ 7:08am CST
Dead Metal wrote:Name_Violation wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tim5nU3DwIE[/youtube]
This is exactly the way that I felt.
I am wondering if the CGI will be similar to the new game, and if story wise they will both be linked. Prime sounds like it could be an origin style of cartoon. And if this is the case then this would be a big mistake to use these two. Well a bigger mistake than using them at all is.
Posted by YRQRM0 on February 7th, 2010 @ 10:13am CST
As for it being CGI, as much as I loved Cybertron, I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping for 2D, but not in cartoony style like Animated, like in a semi-realistic style like Armada. I wonder though if it will be entirely CGI, or like Cybertron where Earth and humans and such are 2D. I hope it's entirely CGI, but like the clone wars, where it looks more professional. But also, not like the clone wars, where they all turn into caricatures and stuff, but where they look normal but with awesome animation.
Posted by MYoung23 on February 7th, 2010 @ 4:43pm CST
The bar has been raised since the days of Beast Wars and Reboot. I have no desire to see a Transformers show that looks like "Back at the Barnyard" or the "Penguins of Madagascar" It is either Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within or Advent Children quality or bust for me.
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 7th, 2010 @ 9:12pm CST
Is it me or do most CGI works look the same? I'm surprised Space Chimps and Planet 51 are neither Dreamworks nor Disney, nor are they from the same studio as each other either.
Contrast with 2D animation, where you couldn't possibly mistaken something like Flapjack or Teen Titans for SpongeBob cartoon.
Burn wrote:Funny, I thought they were talentless hacks who haven't really come up with an original idea of their own.
Star Trek? Pre-existing material.
Transformers? Pre-existing material.
Fringe? X-Files rip-off (and I like Fringe!)
Hawaii 5-0? Re-make!
So you'll forgive me if I think of them as nothing more than a pair of guys who just like cash being thrown at them to look back at something and re-make it for a modern audience.
That's hardly fair. Nothing is new these days, not just what these guys have done.
Posted by Dagon on February 8th, 2010 @ 5:29pm CST
SlyTF1 wrote:Damnit! **** **** **** **** ******* I hae cartoons that are CG!!! I really f*kn hate them! CG is the reason I hate Beast Machines, Energon, and Cybertron! Beast Wars wasnt too bad, mostly cuz they were shiney as hell! Damnit, I pray that this is not true! Just know that if it is...I wont watch it. I may watch the first episode, but if that sucks, I guess Ill have to slit then burn my wrists. Im always going on about, if you dont like the new TF movies, then why the hell are you still a fan, but now, I understand!
Well, here's a rational response.
Seriously Sly, as awful as this news is, don't take it too hard, alright? The reason people who don't like the new movies are still fans of the franchise is because the franchise offers 25 other years of things to be fans of. As lame as the movies have been, they're not bad enough to make me think I have to give up something I've enjoyed for the last 25 years of my life.
On to this cartoon news, I'm going to take the opposite track from Sly here and agree with some of the other opinions.
A) I'm ok with the CG, but I'd prefer the Beast-era Mainframe CG to the Japanese versions we've gotten recently.
B)I liked the last Star Trek film.....
C) These two guys are baffoons. Not only do they tell crap stories that seem like they were written by five year olds pretending to be seven year olds, but they just are not interesting. Boo to this news.
Posted by Cyberstrike on February 9th, 2010 @ 8:49am CST
SoooTrypticon wrote:Star Trek was a mess. The entire plot revolved around what can only be explained as "Spock drives too slow."
Seriously. They make some super ship- knowing full well planets are gonna get eaten by a supernova. Meanwhile the people on those planets choose not to evacuate.
Spock drives to the sun, and on the way "somehow" the Supernova happens anyway, (early. too fast? Spock too slow?).
Lazy writing like that ruined the entire movie- which makes me sad because all the actors were trying so hard.
Also something to note- stupid giant inflatable hands joke crept in there- which seems to be in keeping with the same dumb humor in Transformers- so it can't all be Bay's fault.
Not promising.
The title also makes me worried that this will be an "extreme" makeover for the TFs, with the word "Prime" just replacing "extreme."
I agree 100% Star Trek 11 was average at best and just lame at worse. It had the worse music score of all the 09 summer movies.
One of the things that I always wanted to see in a Star Trek movie or TV show was when Kirk saw the Enterprise for the very first time in his life. Say what you want about Shatner's acting ablity he did a great job of showing that in the first two Star Trek movies, and when we get there in Star Trek 11 what do we get?
A lame barf joke.