All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled

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I apologize in advance for you not being able to look at your Kup toys the same way again but b_croco on Twitter has revealed something that slipped under our collective radar for months: Kup is misassembled. The panels on his legs that cover his wheels are on the wrong sides where the panel covering the right wheel should be on the left and vice versa. How do we know? Well look at your Kup and check how the central line between the two decorative boxes does not line up with the line extending beyond it. In truth, by switching those panels, those lines would line up, and the images below that show a fixed Legends Kup, show that. In reality the smaller box should always be closer to the back end of the vehicle, which is not the case of any Kup assembled at the factory.

We have images below showing the problem on both versions along with what a fixed version looks like. The fixing looks very tedious though.

Transformers News: All Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled

Credit(s): b_croco on Twitter

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Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914311)
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:04pm CDT

The Kup fix just looks like pop off the panels and swap them. I take it it isn't that simple???

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914312)
Posted by DeathReviews on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:08pm CDT

Sodan-1 wrote:The Kup fix just looks like pop off the panels and swap them. I take it it isn't that simple???

One of the photos clearly shows the use of some kind of SAW. That's where I draw the line

If I have to saw up a figure to fix it, then I'll just keep it the way it is, thanks

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914313)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:09pm CDT

Sodan-1 wrote:The Kup fix just looks like pop off the panels and swap them. I take it it isn't that simple???

Nope, as the panels in question also accommodates the rivets the wheels are connected with. That explains the saw used. Also, Tribute Orion Pax has the same problem.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914315)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:33pm CDT

I still can't see or understand what's going on with Kup's supposed parts problems. The photos look like a jumbled mess.

As for Hotrod's comic, it's typical "Sikomofo" up to his usual, purile tricks again. He's not exactly the best thing to happen to Japan, or transformers, is he...

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914316)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:35pm CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:I still can't see or understand what's going on with Kup's supposed parts problems. The photos look like a jumbled mess.

It's purely looks, but the space between the two compartments in question does not line up with the notch above them, creating a jagged effect.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914317)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:45pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I still can't see or understand what's going on with Kup's supposed parts problems. The photos look like a jumbled mess.

It's purely looks, but the space between the two compartments in question does not line up with the notch above them, creating a jagged effect.

Yeah, it took me about 5 minutes just to see what the issue was. I'm normally pretty OCD about my figures being as perfect as possible, but this is such a small detail, it doesn't even show up on my OCDometer.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914320)
Posted by Kurona on October 3rd, 2017 @ 4:58pm CDT

Hey guys, can we not do this again? Thanks.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914336)
Posted by Flashwave on October 3rd, 2017 @ 5:47pm CDT

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Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914345)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 6:42pm CDT

So on Kup, is anyone really bothered enough about knowing the leg panels were mis-assembled to actually cut into them and swap them?

Big fat NOPE here.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914346)
Posted by Qwan on October 3rd, 2017 @ 6:47pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So on Kup, is anyone really bothered enough about knowing the leg panels were mis-assembled to actually cut into them and swap them?

Big fat NOPE here.

Not even close. My Tribute Orion Pax doesn't like to cooperate with the leg-panels lining up in vehicle mode so this was originally a ray of hope for me - maybe it's a misassembly that can be fixed, however bad? thought my naive self. Nope, just an aesthetic misassembly that doesn't affect the figure; I guess I'm still just doing it wrong. Still good to know about though, I suppose ;)^

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914347)
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:00pm CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sodan-1 wrote:The Kup fix just looks like pop off the panels and swap them. I take it it isn't that simple???

Nope, as the panels in question also accommodates the rivets the wheels are connected with. That explains the saw used.

I see. Sod that, then.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914348)
Posted by Kurona on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:06pm CDT

Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914350)
Posted by Evil Eye on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:08pm CDT

If the product images are anything to go by, Orion Pax also suffers from the misassembly.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914351)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:20pm CDT

The Kup panels alone don't really bug me that much, but I do feel like an overall sloppiness has crept in when it comes to assembling the figures.

I had to replace my Blitzwing because he came with two left feet, My Octone has the problem with the cab section not closing properly because one side is crooked. Then there was Trypicon.

I've had other figures I've had to return or replace parts for because they came mis-assembled. I don't remember having the problem as much as I see it now, but maybe it's just me.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914352)
Posted by Flashwave on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:23pm CDT

RiddlerJ wrote:The Kup panels alone don't really bug me that much, but I do feel like an overall sloppiness has crept in when it comes to assembling the figures.

I had to replace my Blitzwing because he came with two left feet, My Octone has the problem with the cab section not closing properly because one side is crooked. Then there was Trypicon.

I've had other figures I've had to return or replace parts for because they came mis-assembled. I don't remember having the problem as much as I see it now, but maybe it's just me.

I wonder if anyone would have pegged an assembly issue with Kup if there hadnt been so many more obvious QC issues? And if so, I wonder how many asthetic QC issues have gotten past us as a fandom, particularly before the internet allowed us to keep such a vocal record

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914353)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:26pm CDT

Usually this is something that (Takara fans?) people would say was mainly a Hasbro problem, however, IMO, I've noticed more QA problems with products and customer service at Takara since Tomy bought them out/merged with them.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914354)
Posted by Qwan on October 3rd, 2017 @ 7:33pm CDT

Kurona wrote:Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

Can confirm looking at mine. I think Jelze also noted the same problem with hers a few posts back? So on top of the stock images featuring the misassembly, I think it's safe to say that every iteration of this mold so far has had the "problem".

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914358)
Posted by Randomhero on October 3rd, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So on Kup, is anyone really bothered enough about knowing the leg panels were mis-assembled to actually cut into them and swap them?

Big fat NOPE here.

Yeah I’ve owned Kup since January and he looks fine he transforms fine and holds together perfectly fine.

This is the biggest nitpick I’ve ever seen.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914359)
Posted by the_neptrix on October 3rd, 2017 @ 8:36pm CDT

Black Hat wrote:Man, it's good to see Shaoshao in fiction that isn't blatantly horrific. I do so love anime Chinese girls. Let's hope poor old Atari gets her time to shine again.

I'd have to agree, though there aren't a lot of them. Some people seem slightly offended, though. Japanese media is just sorta like that.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914361)
Posted by thedistinctroom on October 3rd, 2017 @ 8:43pm CDT

Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914365)
Posted by Qwan on October 3rd, 2017 @ 8:55pm CDT

Guys, I know I'm not staff and I have no authority, but can we just... not. Not again. Not again again.

thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Except Trypticon wasn't misassembled, he just sucked :-P

(Well I guess that one outward-ratchet on the hips was a misassembly, maybe the scary tail ratchet, but my point still stands on most of the major issues.)

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914367)
Posted by Deadput on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:04pm CDT

So this is what you guys talk about these days? I...I still don't see the problem here

Talking about Kup

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914373)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:33pm CDT

thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.

Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914375)
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:40pm CDT

Takara Legends LG-44 Sharkticon came with a headmaster of a Sweep soldier which could be placed on top of Legends Scourge in order to differentiate Scourge from his Sweeps. Fellow Seibertronian Powered Convoy and b_croco on Twitter took images to show this effect so that you can see how a full armada would look like. It was very witty of Takara to pair this troop building head with the Sharkticon, another troop builder.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914376)
Posted by Randomhero on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:44pm CDT

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.

Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Bludgeon is an official figure. Just because TFCC is no more doesn’t take away their figures’ status as official products. If it’s has Hasbro and or Takaras name on them they are official. And while the knees have a flaw they still fully functional and it doesn’t technically hinder the toy. I didn’t even know about that hinge on hotspot until it was addressed 11 months after owning him.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914378)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:44pm CDT

Qwan wrote:
Kurona wrote:Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

Can confirm looking at mine. I think Jelze also noted the same problem with hers a few posts back? So on top of the stock images featuring the misassembly, I think it's safe to say that every iteration of this mold so far has had the "problem".

I don't have him, I quickly pulled up a YT review on the set. Easy peasy. I do want him for the Deluxe Prime setup, but I'm gonna wait on how the rest of the TR line develops when it comes to availability. I'm gonna stop right there because, well, this is Transformers Legends. :DANCE:

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914382)
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 9:58pm CDT

Just saw this post and wanted to share asap for those who are getting the Legends Hot Rod

Olivus Prime wrote:Aaaaand as I suspected, Hot Rod's chest didn't last long, being made out of translucent plastic.

The tight grip between his torso and chest piece meant I had to apply a good amount of force pulling it out for vehicle mode, which resulted in a nasty crack through part of the flame the third time I did it.

I'd suggest filing the sides of the tabs on his chest piece before transforming him too much, if this kind of tight tolerance is widespread.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914383)
Posted by Randomhero on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:03pm CDT

Man if someone was to describe the fandom nowadays you’d just have to show them the history Titans Return/Legends Kup.

Reveal of art:

oh my god best version of Kup this is awesome!

Reveal of figure:

UGH! Just awful! I’ll wait and see what Takara does! No thanks!

figure is sighted months early at Walgreens:

OH MY GOD! I HAVE TO FIND HIM! I FOUND HIM HES AMAZING!

Takara reveals Legends version:

UGH! GREY!? Worst figure ever! I will only buy 5 so I can recolor a few and have some in package but Titans Return will be ultimate version with their target master!

Takara reveals new images that with cartoon accuracy:

BEST VERSION OF KUP EVER!

Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...WORST.FIGURE.EVER.

It’s certainly a wild ride.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914384)
Posted by Qwan on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:09pm CDT

Randomhero wrote:Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though :lol:

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914386)
Posted by Randomhero on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:14pm CDT

Qwan wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

Not really. Plenty of people are now just complaining how every figure is busted apparently.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914387)
Posted by RodimusRex on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:16pm CDT

I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914389)
Posted by NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:30pm CDT

The Kup thing is interesting...but its a modification I will not be making. I can live with him as is.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914390)
Posted by Randomhero on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT

RodimusRex wrote:I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

Gonna be waiting a long long time for that crosshairs deco since Titans Return is over and power of the primes gimmick for deluxes is Combiners again.

I still don’t understand why people want that. Crosshairs didn’t even turn into a truck he turned into a buggy thing.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914392)
Posted by Qwan on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:34pm CDT

Randomhero wrote:
Qwan wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

Not really. Plenty of people are now just complaining how every figure is busted apparently.

Ah, but the complaints are about the existence of issues, not how they actually negatively impact the figures that have them. It's the principle of the thing

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914393)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:35pm CDT

I really wish the alternate Scourge head came with a slightly different colour-mapped Scourge, as even if you buy a new scourge for that head, you are always left with an extra scourge head.

Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914397)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:38pm CDT

Randomhero wrote:
DecepticonFinishline wrote:
thedistinctroom wrote:Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.

Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Bludgeon is an official figure. Just because TFCC is no more doesn’t take away their figures’ status as official products. If it’s has Hasbro and or Takaras name on them they are official. And while the knees have a flaw they still fully functional and it doesn’t technically hinder the toy. I didn’t even know about that hinge on hotspot until it was addressed 11 months after owning him.

What problem with the Hot Spot hinge? Mine was fine. Same with Onslaught.

The hinge on the three I mentioned are assembled backwards. Which DOES hinder the toys' bot mode. You can't lock the knee in correctly because of this misassembly. It's a HUGE bummer.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914399)
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:47pm CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914401)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:49pm CDT

These are interesting points! I emailed this site about someone doing a (series of?) story/stories about "controversial" aspects to Transformers, and possibly toylines in general? It might be interesting to go through "the muck" and even see that for some aspects, cartoon companies were damned if they did or didn't include religious icons, etc.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914403)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:52pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

Yeah, because it's the "Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread" which deals with everything related to the Legends line. Also, I am pretty sure I read Burn saying that if you had any other issue you should either write in to complain or send a PM so as to not derail the thread again as you just did.

I'm not sure you understood? It wasn't a complaint; it was a tongue in cheek comment referencing that there "could" be heated discussion involving two girls and one...

I can't go any further as that would make me a hypocrit!

Just making light of the content and moving on.

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Posted by RodimusRex on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT

Randomhero wrote:
RodimusRex wrote:I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

Gonna be waiting a long long time for that crosshairs deco since Titans Return is over and power of the primes gimmick for deluxes is Combiners again.

I still don’t understand why people want that. Crosshairs didn’t even turn into a truck he turned into a buggy thing.

Store box sets, Platinum decos, further retools, SDCC exclusives (which often have BOTH Hasbro and TRU exclusives), Hascon exclusives, eHobby, movie line filler, Tribute series... I think we'll see at least half a dozen of these molds again inside five years.

Even the new line has enigmas that use HM sockets (some with faces) and the Last Knight has one true Titan Master and another figure that uses the head socket.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914407)
Posted by Burn on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:56pm CDT

FFS...this thread today... :HEADHURTS:

I'm gonna go finish reading my weekly comics and come back in a few hours and see if this mess has gotten worse.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914408)
Posted by RodimusRex on October 3rd, 2017 @ 10:58pm CDT

primalxconvoy wrote:I really wish the alternate Scourge head came with a slightly different colour-mapped Scourge, as even if you buy a new scourge for that head, you are always left with an extra scourge head.

Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

On the plus side, you can plug the extra Scourge heads into the hollow spaces on his gun. In addition to functioning as pilots, spare heads often work as bulk fillers on TM vehicles/guns/accessories.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914410)
Posted by Deadput on October 3rd, 2017 @ 11:42pm CDT

"Receives email notification about thread update and proceeds to read thread"

Soooo uh are we sure this is an actual misassembly issue and not just some weird intention of the designer or something?

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914411)
Posted by primalxconvoy on October 4th, 2017 @ 12:17am CDT

RodimusRex wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I really wish the alternate Scourge head came with a slightly different colour-mapped Scourge, as even if you buy a new scourge for that head, you are always left with an extra scourge head.

Also, this thread featured both the Hotrod manga's two girls, plus the one news item about one Kup...

On the plus side, you can plug the extra Scourge heads into the hollow spaces on his gun. In addition to functioning as pilots, spare heads often work as bulk fillers on TM vehicles/guns/accessories.

I've got mine simply waiting his turn in the Trypticon, as he can't stay in the cockpit due to transformation.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914416)
Posted by Arlekkin on October 4th, 2017 @ 1:22am CDT

I don't think it is a misassembled part but more of a design error, especially if the wheel cover is one whole part.

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914418)
Posted by Qwan on October 4th, 2017 @ 2:17am CDT

Arlekkin wrote:I don't think it is a misassembled part but more of a design error, especially if the wheel cover is one whole part.

The wheel cover in question is two parts, but the way it's all held together seems to necessitate sawing one of the pieces in order to detach it. It seems weird for it to be a design error, seeing as it still fits perfectly (and also matches up exactly with the otherwise-misaligned detail) when the panels are swapped. While that could be a coincidence, I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that's the case personally.

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Posted by Emerje on October 4th, 2017 @ 2:28am CDT

Deadput wrote:"Receives email notification about thread update and proceeds to read thread"Soooo uh are we sure this is an actual misassembly issue and not just some weird intention of the designer or something?

More likely it isn't the designer's fault, but the fault of whoever did the assembly schematic, otherwise it wouldn't exist in every use of this mold including Takara Tomy's modified version.

Seibertron, if you don't like the mold's flat back then combine the Hasbro guns and plug it into his back as a jetpack, it makes a big difference. Of course you'll then have to find a replacement gun and this doesn't work with the Legends version.

Just noticed when trying to read these comics with Google Translate that it isn't really Dinosaurer running around, but Grimlock's Headmaster controlling Dinosaurer's body. That really brings the whole movie thing with Hot Rod and the Sharkticons together even more.

Emerje

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914421)
Posted by Qwan on October 4th, 2017 @ 2:47am CDT

I've been using the combined guns as a jetpack for Tribute Orion Pax, and I have to agree they work pretty well (the flat back majorly bothers me otherwise as well). I had the idea that maybe PRiD Sergeant Kup's cannons could function similarly - knowing that I'm gonna need something to fill in LG Kup's back when he arrives - but I could only find one of them so I can't test for certain if they'd both fit in the holes or not. From a rough estimate with the one I could find though, it looks like it'll be a pretty tight fit if they work at all. Back to the drawing board I guess...

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914427)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on October 4th, 2017 @ 3:15am CDT

william-james88 wrote:Just saw this post and wanted to share asap for those who are getting the Legends Hot Rod

Olivus Prime wrote:Aaaaand as I suspected, Hot Rod's chest didn't last long, being made out of translucent plastic.

The tight grip between his torso and chest piece meant I had to apply a good amount of force pulling it out for vehicle mode, which resulted in a nasty crack through part of the flame the third time I did it.

I'd suggest filing the sides of the tabs on his chest piece before transforming him too much, if this kind of tight tolerance is widespread.

Awww that sucks to read...thanks for posting that WJ. I just may consider getting a 2nd one just to be safe keeping the other forever in alt-mode. :-?

Re: All Transformers Titans Return and Legends Kup Toys Are Revealed to be Misassembled (1914431)
Posted by Nightreaper78 on October 4th, 2017 @ 4:52am CDT

Hi,

Okay, first off this is my first post so Hello to everyone.

Second, that is one dangerous method to get the desired result. I used two thin pointed nail files to release the latches on either side of the fender well then pried the panel out while applying heat with a soldering pen to the rivet. Done in reverse to reassemble. Finished the mod in about two minutes. Hope this helps.

Only one tiny divet where the point of the pen slipped off the rivet. Totally hidden on both modes. Also just me not having the pen gripped firmly enough lol.

Thanks for pointing this flaw out.

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