Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022

Thursday, December 2nd, 2021 10:26pm CST

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Take this one with a grain of salt please. It has been stated by someone in the know that we could be getting an Alpha Trion and Orion Pax two pack next year. It was said to be the SDCC exclusive. While that's all that was said, it can be easy to guess what molds could be used if this did come to pass. With a nice new Kup mold in the SS86 line, an Orion Pax redeco should be right around the corner. As for Alpha Trion, some have guessed the Scourge mold which would fit. We really don't know more than this, but we wanted to share this rumour with you. To give you an idea of what the colour placement would be on the SS 86 Kup figure, here is a digi bash from Cryptic on Twitter.

Transformers News: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022

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Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122396)
Posted by Randomhero on December 2nd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST

When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122400)
Posted by Munkky on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:17am CST

I'd be down for a new Alpha Trion, and I've never owned a version of the Scourge mould but have heard great things about it. Orion I can take or leave, he would probably end up on the "Didn't really want it but it was in a twin-pack with someone I did want" pile with Lifeline and Maximal Skywarp.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122404)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:59am CST

Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.

Now if that's an "exclusive" that will be as easy to get as the Siege Refraktor trio boxset, that would be great.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122409)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:36am CST

Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.

Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.

Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:

Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:

- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122410)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:51am CST

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.

This right here... It happens all over too..

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122414)
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:47am CST

-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.

I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122415)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:42am CST

sol magnus wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Remolding/repainting SS86 Scourge and Kup would be pretty smart. Only thing that would need fixing for Pax is to skip the removable arms gimmick. Those would be pointless and make no sense.

I can make it make sense easily. He got destroyed and rebuilt into Optimus Prime in at least one iteration of the story.

Plus, there is no way to easily adjust a mold to turn a 2 part bicep or thigh into a single part. It would basically require new arm and leg molds.

Of course there is a really easy way to make each limb a single piece on your own. That would be called super glue.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122422)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on December 3rd, 2021 @ 12:10pm CST

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.

This right here... It happens all over too..

It's the bane of modern society.
Hell, it's even from before the internet was a thing.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122429)
Posted by TK415 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 2:05pm CST

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Randomhero wrote:When are you guys gonna stop posting these garbage digibashes. Every time you do people freak out thinking it’s what it is (because apparently reading is hard)even though it states in the article it’s not and you remove it from the article due to confusion. Literally every time.

Not their fault if all people do is read the headline and look at the pretty pictures, but skip the article itself.

Alpha Trion out of Scourge has precedence, really:

Head may need retooling (if there isn't an alternate head already). Orion out of Kup has been done quite a few times:

- G1 Kup into e-Hobby Orion Pax
- TR Kup into Movie Tribute Orion Pax
- T30 Orion Pax into unreleased Kup (alternate head confirmed to be Kup)

Would love to get an official release of Alpha Trion!

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122451)
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 4:09pm CST

I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation & plastic quality. So Orion Pax is a big miss for me, that mold is just not worth double dipping on.

I have the triple changing Alpha Trion and while it's a fun toy, it's nowhere near accurate in the looks department, so I look forward to seeing actual reveal of this anouncement. If it's much better, I'll bite the 2-pack price.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122470)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:04pm CST

cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation

I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.

This is G1 Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation), as far as existing toys go.

The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.

cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.

Now on this front, you're just plain delusional.

I hope we get some official data on this line soon.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122473)
Posted by TulioDude on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:25pm CST

I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?

Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122475)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 3rd, 2021 @ 7:47pm CST

TulioDude wrote:I get that the original Kup toy being repainted was the way they found to give us a Orion Pax toy,but Orion Pax got two molds for himself after that(Thrilling 30 and Power of the Primes),so why keep repainting Kup in him?

Day 703 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Thrilling 30 doesn't count IMO, ESPECIALLY if you're going for the G1 cartoon. And PotP... while that would be ideal since it's the actual cartoon Orion Pax robot mode, I don't know that they'd be able to sell the Orion Pax part standalone. And I somehow doubt they'd do either a full Leader or a brand-new standalone Orion mold as part of a 2-pack like this.

Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122478)
Posted by cloudballoon on December 3rd, 2021 @ 8:15pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.

This is Orion Pax. SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe, as far as existing bodies go.

The digibash should have used the PotP head, tho.

cloudballoon wrote:& plastic quality.
Now on this front, you're just plain delusional.

I hope we get some official data on this line soon.

I don't disagree that SS86 Kup got a closer body type & styling to the toon look than the Generations Orion Pax, like, by miles. But the Generations toy is an original take on Orion Pax, not a repaint/redeco, and I love it for the originality. The transformation's fun and quite unique too. I thought that Generations Orion Pax's alt mode is conceptually closer to Optimus Prime's (Cybertron OR Earth) truck than Kup's alt mode as well. So I was like "Yes! Finally Hasbro got (retcon?) Orion Pax right!" when it came out.

So if you let me have only one Orion Pax figure out to the existing ones + this rumored SS86 Kup redeco, I'd STILL pick the 1st Generations version.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122483)
Posted by sol magnus on December 3rd, 2021 @ 9:39pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:I have the Generations mold (which the digibash took the head out of) and it's much better than SS86 Kup -- look, articulation
I can't speak re: articulation, but you're flat-out wrong about the look.

I would add the plastic quality, too. To the point that I laughed out loud at just that. Having gone back to Prime Wars figures in several cases, none of them have the level of 'plastic quality' as anything in WFC save for perhaps Fangry, who's a floppy a mess as anything I have from any of those previous lines.

I guess we all have our preferences, but I don't even see how the plastic quality is arguable.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122484)
Posted by william-james88 on December 3rd, 2021 @ 10:35pm CST

The plastic type they used for Gen (T30) Orion Pax was pretty bad. very light with breakage points at the some hinges. I liked the look (especially in car mode) but that toy will not be missed by me.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122492)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 3rd, 2021 @ 11:53pm CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.

Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?

It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122498)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 4th, 2021 @ 6:53am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS86 Kup comes decidedly closer to that look than the old deluxe (which was an Aligned toy labeled as the G1 incarnation),
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Side note, both Aligned (IIRC) and 2019 IDW "Orion Pax" feel more like Optronix mislabeled.
Why do you keep calling the Thrilling 30 Orion Pax toy an Aligned toy?

It was based on Guido Guidi's Orion Pax design from Spotlight: Blurr, first published by IDW in 2008, two whole years before the first pieces of Aligned media ever saw release (heck, even before ROTF came out).

Faulty memory, that's why; I was getting it mixed up with the WFC Optimus from 2010. My bad.

Feel free to smack me. I blame overload and the fact that FoC toys were lingering at the same time T30 came out. The point that it doesn't really work for resembling cartoon Orion still stands tho.

However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122503)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:09am CST

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:However, the side note isn't talking about the toys but rather the characters. If memory served Aligned "Orion Pax" recycled the archivist backstory that came from Optronix, the original G1 comics' version of "Optimus Prime before he was Optimus Prime," and I knew for certain 2019 IDW had done the same. Double-checking the wiki, I was right about the Aligned version.

Optronix was from Dreamwave, but yes, he was the archivist. They merged the Orion Pax name from the cartoon with the archivist job from Dreamwave, "aligning" the two together. Apparently, most preferred the "Orion Pax" name anyway since "Optronix" never caught on outside of Dreamwave and a few other very obscure things from the 2000s. IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.

Re: Alpha Trion and Orion Pax Rumoured as Exclusive 2 Pack in 2022 (2122504)
Posted by sol magnus on December 4th, 2021 @ 10:12am CST

Sabrblade wrote: IDW 2019 probably went with "Orion Pax as an archivist" too because it's his standard backstory now.

When you say "probably" do you mean that's "probably" his backstory, or that's "probably why" they went with it as his backstory?

If it's the former, it indeed is his backstory. He was just a beefy damn archivist.

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