Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging
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Hasbro is releasing more Rise of the Beasts toyline content to showcase upcoming product. Today we have new videos showing the transformation for the Smash and Change Optimus Primal and transforming Bumblebee mask.
This makes it the 4th Optimus primal toy and Bumblebee toy revealed in the mainline so far, though we know they will each get more toys.
These simpler toys, like Primal, sold well in the past as they offer larger toys with quick conversions for kids, we'll see if that trend continues with the introduction of Beast Wars characters for a new generation.
Also, thanks to Twitter user Azalben, we have an image showcasing the packaging for this toyline.
This photo showcases the folowing toys:
Beast Battle Masters Cheetor
Beast Battle Masters Rhinox
Beast Battle Masters Skullcruncher
Battle Changers Optimus Prime
Battle Changers Bumblebee
Battle Changers Rhinox
2-in-1 Optimus Prime Blaster
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Arcee & Silverfang
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Beast Weaponizers 2-Pack Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
Beast Weaponizers 2-Pack Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
2-in-1 Bumblebee Mask
2-in-1 Optimus Primal Mask
Beast-Mode Bumblebee
Smash-Changers Optimus Prime
This makes it the 4th Optimus primal toy and Bumblebee toy revealed in the mainline so far, though we know they will each get more toys.
These simpler toys, like Primal, sold well in the past as they offer larger toys with quick conversions for kids, we'll see if that trend continues with the introduction of Beast Wars characters for a new generation.
Also, thanks to Twitter user Azalben, we have an image showcasing the packaging for this toyline.
This photo showcases the folowing toys:
Beast Battle Masters Cheetor
Beast Battle Masters Rhinox
Beast Battle Masters Skullcruncher
Battle Changers Optimus Prime
Battle Changers Bumblebee
Battle Changers Rhinox
2-in-1 Optimus Prime Blaster
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Arcee & Silverfang
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Bumblebee & Snarlsaber
Beast Combiners 2-Pack Optimus Primal & Skullcruncher
Beast Weaponizers 2-Pack Optimus Prime & Chainclaw
Beast Weaponizers 2-Pack Optimus Primal & Arrowstripe
2-in-1 Bumblebee Mask
2-in-1 Optimus Primal Mask
Beast-Mode Bumblebee
Smash-Changers Optimus Prime
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Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155084)
Posted by King Kuuga on February 3rd, 2023 @ 11:54am CST
I hate these videos. Either make your content horizontal or vertical, Hasbro. Don't make it horizontal and then letterbox it into a vertical resolution. I fullscreen these videos on my 2k monitor and I get a small window of video. If I were on my phone and turned them sideways to get more video I'd get worse results. Pick a damn orientation. Every device can already fill in the blank space if a video doesn't fit the screen, so why are they trying to force the issue?
anyway the toys look nice I guess. I'll be eagerly waiting for reviews of these masks to see what people say about them.
Posted by King Kuuga on February 3rd, 2023 @ 11:54am CST
william-james88 wrote:
I hate these videos. Either make your content horizontal or vertical, Hasbro. Don't make it horizontal and then letterbox it into a vertical resolution. I fullscreen these videos on my 2k monitor and I get a small window of video. If I were on my phone and turned them sideways to get more video I'd get worse results. Pick a damn orientation. Every device can already fill in the blank space if a video doesn't fit the screen, so why are they trying to force the issue?
anyway the toys look nice I guess. I'll be eagerly waiting for reviews of these masks to see what people say about them.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155091)
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 12:55pm CST
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 12:55pm CST
noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155094)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:43pm CST
And you know this how?
Most liquidators I've seen don't carry that much, really, and even then only later waves.
For the record, if they sell, obviously people and kids are enjoying them. So let them.
Me, eh... haven't bought anything Movie except for the Constructicons, missing Overload and Skipjack.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:43pm CST
Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
And you know this how?
Most liquidators I've seen don't carry that much, really, and even then only later waves.For the record, if they sell, obviously people and kids are enjoying them. So let them.
Me, eh... haven't bought anything Movie except for the Constructicons, missing Overload and Skipjack.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155096)
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:52pm CST
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:52pm CST
These look... awful. Hasbro's stock is tanking, they're laying off employees, and *these* are what they're producing? 
Wonder how long these are going to be peg/shelf-warming...
Wonder how long these are going to be peg/shelf-warming...
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155097)
Posted by Emerje on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:56pm CST
Also not all of us have access to an Ollie's or a Ross. I have a couple T.J.Maxx stores I can go to, but they were a total bust when it came to Transformers last year.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:56pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
And you know this how?
For the record, if they sell, obviously people and kids are enjoying them. So let them.
Also not all of us have access to an Ollie's or a Ross. I have a couple T.J.Maxx stores I can go to, but they were a total bust when it came to Transformers last year.
Emerje
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155098)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:59pm CST
This is a really good call-out, because I read an investor note with a "sell" recommendation, and they specifically said they were negative because fansite crybabies don't like the looks of Hasbro's kids' media tie-in products. You should have a CNBC show, I can recommend a production contact if you're interested.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 3rd, 2023 @ 1:59pm CST
transformers_va wrote:These look... awful. Hasbro's stock is tanking, they're laying off employees, and *these* are what they're producing?
This is a really good call-out, because I read an investor note with a "sell" recommendation, and they specifically said they were negative because fansite crybabies don't like the looks of Hasbro's kids' media tie-in products. You should have a CNBC show, I can recommend a production contact if you're interested.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155099)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:03pm CST
And if it's TFs that older fans actually want, you usually have to be at Ollie's the day they put it on the shelf. Don't be fooled by the army of Zack Storm figures who've staked out their pegs for half a decade now.
Also, much as I like Ollie's, they're largely just in the eastern third of the contiguous U.S., just barely creeping west into Texas. They've served me well in Michigan, but IDK if my relatives in Illinois have even heard of them.
I wish T.J.Maxx, Marshall's, and Tuesday Morning were still reliable for overstock TFs, but those days seem to be years gone by now. I saw some of those Dinobot dual-combiners in TJM just before Christmas, but the last time I actually bought TFs there was pre-pandemic (and also Cyberverse, but from Year 1).
Point is, don't let the hindsight bias of that one toy you forked over $30 for and then saw for $10 a few months later convince you to ignore an entire line at MSRP when it hits the shelves. All the figures you end up paying double for on Ebay will more than offset 1 or 2 flukes that show up en masse next year in an unexpected outlet.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:03pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
And you know this how?
And if it's TFs that older fans actually want, you usually have to be at Ollie's the day they put it on the shelf. Don't be fooled by the army of Zack Storm figures who've staked out their pegs for half a decade now.
Also, much as I like Ollie's, they're largely just in the eastern third of the contiguous U.S., just barely creeping west into Texas. They've served me well in Michigan, but IDK if my relatives in Illinois have even heard of them.
I wish T.J.Maxx, Marshall's, and Tuesday Morning were still reliable for overstock TFs, but those days seem to be years gone by now. I saw some of those Dinobot dual-combiners in TJM just before Christmas, but the last time I actually bought TFs there was pre-pandemic (and also Cyberverse, but from Year 1).
Point is, don't let the hindsight bias of that one toy you forked over $30 for and then saw for $10 a few months later convince you to ignore an entire line at MSRP when it hits the shelves. All the figures you end up paying double for on Ebay will more than offset 1 or 2 flukes that show up en masse next year in an unexpected outlet.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155100)
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:16pm CST
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:16pm CST
Cry-babies? Hahahaha get a life... look, I've been a collector for about 40 years now, and have close to 4,500 Transformers... if you can say the same, or even close to, I might listen to your opinion about these, but I get the feeling you can't. If you think these ROTB toys are good, you might want to look into go-bots instead, because Transformers are more than you deserve.AcademyofDrX wrote:transformers_va wrote:These look... awful. Hasbro's stock is tanking, they're laying off employees, and *these* are what they're producing?
This is a really good call-out, because I read an investor note with a "sell" recommendation, and they specifically said they were negative because fansite crybabies don't like the looks of Hasbro's kids' media tie-in products. You should have a CNBC show, I can recommend a production contact if you're interested.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155101)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:22pm CST
No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:22pm CST
transformers_va wrote:Cry-babies? Hahahaha get a life... look, I've been a collector for about 40 years now, and have close to 4,500 Transformers... if you can say the same, or even close to, I might listen to your opinion about these, but I get the feeling you can't. If you think these ROTB toys are good, you might want to look into go-bots instead, because Transformers are more than you deserve.AcademyofDrX wrote:transformers_va wrote:These look... awful. Hasbro's stock is tanking, they're laying off employees, and *these* are what they're producing?
This is a really good call-out, because I read an investor note with a "sell" recommendation, and they specifically said they were negative because fansite crybabies don't like the looks of Hasbro's kids' media tie-in products. You should have a CNBC show, I can recommend a production contact if you're interested.
No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155104)
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:47pm CST
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:47pm CST
I love people who are so quick to try and silence others... it's so telling. Hey genius, you do know conversations are best when it includes all sides/views, not just the ones that fit.Razorbeast88 wrote:No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155105)
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:47pm CST
What the hell is wrong with Gobots? They are way better than some of the stuff Hasbro was putting out at the time, like Throttlebots. And I have around the same amount of TFs as you (though I am including my Gobots). If you want to keep up, you'll have to buy these ROTB toys
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:47pm CST
transformers_va wrote:Cry-babies? Hahahaha get a life... look, I've been a collector for about 40 years now, and have close to 4,500 Transformers... if you can say the same, or even close to, I might listen to your opinion about these, but I get the feeling you can't. If you think these ROTB toys are good, you might want to look into go-bots instead, because Transformers are more than you deserve.
What the hell is wrong with Gobots? They are way better than some of the stuff Hasbro was putting out at the time, like Throttlebots. And I have around the same amount of TFs as you (though I am including my Gobots). If you want to keep up, you'll have to buy these ROTB toys
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155106)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:50pm CST
Everyone can speak, but only those with thousands of toys have authority, got it. I apologize for implying you were a crybaby, and I will go a step further and never engage with your posts again.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:50pm CST
transformers_va wrote:I love people who are so quick to try and silence others... it's so telling. Hey genius, you do know conversations are best when it includes all sides/views, not just the ones that fit.Razorbeast88 wrote:No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
Everyone can speak, but only those with thousands of toys have authority, got it. I apologize for implying you were a crybaby, and I will go a step further and never engage with your posts again.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155107)
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:50pm CST
Personal observation. The majority of TF's that ever show up here are from the kid's lines as opposed to the collector's lines, and they never move until the bulk of them disappear at once. I admit I've never been there when they go, so I am making the bold assumption that roving bands of 6 year olds flush with grandma money aren't forming raiding parties in Walmart's toy isle.
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:50pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Brokebot wrote:noctorro wrote:It sucks, because now I have to save up money again.
Somehow, I doubt it. Most of that will likely be in a discount bin or an Ollie's at less than half it's original price.
And you know this how?
For the record, if they sell, obviously people and kids are enjoying them. So let them.
Personal observation. The majority of TF's that ever show up here are from the kid's lines as opposed to the collector's lines, and they never move until the bulk of them disappear at once. I admit I've never been there when they go, so I am making the bold assumption that roving bands of 6 year olds flush with grandma money aren't forming raiding parties in Walmart's toy isle.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155108)
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:51pm CST
Just so we have all the facts, these videos are not from Hasbro directly. These are vertical uploads of transformation videos uploaded by the Cybertron 21 facebook page. It makes them easier to share. Their original format, not on youtube, would not have bene verticle.
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:51pm CST
King Kuuga wrote:I hate these videos. Either make your content horizontal or vertical, Hasbro. Don't make it horizontal and then letterbox it into a vertical resolution. I fullscreen these videos on my 2k monitor and I get a small window of video. If I were on my phone and turned them sideways to get more video I'd get worse results. Pick a damn orientation. Every device can already fill in the blank space if a video doesn't fit the screen, so why are they trying to force the issue?
Just so we have all the facts, these videos are not from Hasbro directly. These are vertical uploads of transformation videos uploaded by the Cybertron 21 facebook page. It makes them easier to share. Their original format, not on youtube, would not have bene verticle.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155109)
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:58pm CST
Stores will flush out toys to get rid of them for room, for sure. But just because you constantly saw kids toys, it doesn't mean it was always the same and none ever sold. With Cyberverse, the same toys were rereleased 5 times in slightly different packaging, so that big wall of kids' toys was always being refreshed throughout the tenure of the toyline. Only the later waves made it to ollies and such, while a majority sold at the primary market. Not just that, but the bulk of sales is only at one month in the year, so odds are sales appear stagnant when it' just the standard cycle.
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 2:58pm CST
Brokebot wrote:Personal observation. The majority of TF's that ever show up here are from the kid's lines as opposed to the collector's lines, and they never move until the bulk of them disappear at once. I admit I've never been there when they go, so I am making the bold assumption that roving bands of 6 year olds flush with grandma money aren't forming raiding parties in Walmart's toy isle.
Stores will flush out toys to get rid of them for room, for sure. But just because you constantly saw kids toys, it doesn't mean it was always the same and none ever sold. With Cyberverse, the same toys were rereleased 5 times in slightly different packaging, so that big wall of kids' toys was always being refreshed throughout the tenure of the toyline. Only the later waves made it to ollies and such, while a majority sold at the primary market. Not just that, but the bulk of sales is only at one month in the year, so odds are sales appear stagnant when it' just the standard cycle.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155110)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:01pm CST
Hey genius, you can have opposing views in a conversation without being a d!ck about it. Agree to disagree or whatever, But telling people they don't deserve to collect because they disagree with you is pretty stupid. And you wanna talk about silencing others.
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:01pm CST
transformers_va wrote:I love people who are so quick to try and silence others... it's so telling. Hey genius, you do know conversations are best when it includes all sides/views, not just the ones that fit.Razorbeast88 wrote:No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
Hey genius, you can have opposing views in a conversation without being a d!ck about it. Agree to disagree or whatever, But telling people they don't deserve to collect because they disagree with you is pretty stupid. And you wanna talk about silencing others.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155111)
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:03pm CST
Impressive collection! I don't know if I can convince myself to buy these though... maybe on deep discount?
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:03pm CST
There's nothing "wrong" with GoBots. I actually have many of mine from childhood, and still enjoy them. The difference is with quality of materials and intricacy of transformation. The Transformers are just far superior in both aspects.william-james88 wrote:What the hell is wrong with Gobots? They are way better than some of the stuff Hasbro was putting out at the time, like Throttlebots. And I have around the same amount of TFs as you (though I am including my Gobots). If you want to keep up, you'll have to buy these ROTB toys
Impressive collection!
I don't know if I can convince myself to buy these though... maybe on deep discount?
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155113)
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:07pm CST
Posted by transformers_va on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:07pm CST
Hey genius, when you have one person insinuating that you're a crybaby, and another telling you that you're bitching and moaning, it puts a person on the defensive (a.k.a. being a d!ck")... adjust how you approach people, and you might get a different result. With that being said, do you have anything constructive to add to the conversation, or do you only jump in to try and shut others down?Razorbeast88 wrote:Hey genius, you can have opposing views in a conversation without being a d!ck about it. Agree to disagree or whatever, But telling people they don't deserve to collect because they disagree with you is pretty stupid. And you wanna talk about silencing others.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155114)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:11pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:11pm CST
OK folks, time to put a cap in that conversation.
Gatekeeping by saying your opinion means more based on the amount of time you've been collecting or the number of bots you own is offputting and just plain rude.
Remember just because you hate something with this kind of vitriol does not mean others cannot enjoy it. there are many tastes, none of them are wrong.
But you should not be an asshole about it either. And that is what I am seeing, and what I am formally stopping now. Next comment along the lines will not be so nice.
Gatekeeping by saying your opinion means more based on the amount of time you've been collecting or the number of bots you own is offputting and just plain rude.
Remember just because you hate something with this kind of vitriol does not mean others cannot enjoy it. there are many tastes, none of them are wrong.
But you should not be an asshole about it either. And that is what I am seeing, and what I am formally stopping now. Next comment along the lines will not be so nice.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155116)
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:12pm CST
Everyone needs to calm the hell down. Several of us don't like what we see, won't be buying, and predict poor sales. Others think they're looking at the best thing since Beanie Babies and can't wait to burn the rent money on all they can get their hands on. I, as a member of the former group, hope all the members of the latter group experience all the joy your hearts can handle on those figures. Maybe if enough of these things sell, the brand won't die off like it did before.
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:12pm CST
Razorbeast88 wrote:transformers_va wrote:I love people who are so quick to try and silence others... it's so telling. Hey genius, you do know conversations are best when it includes all sides/views, not just the ones that fit.Razorbeast88 wrote:No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
Hey genius, you can have opposing views in a conversation without being a d!ck about it. Agree to disagree or whatever, But telling people they don't deserve to collect because they disagree with you is pretty stupid. And you wanna talk about silencing others.
Everyone needs to calm the hell down. Several of us don't like what we see, won't be buying, and predict poor sales. Others think they're looking at the best thing since Beanie Babies and can't wait to burn the rent money on all they can get their hands on. I, as a member of the former group, hope all the members of the latter group experience all the joy your hearts can handle on those figures. Maybe if enough of these things sell, the brand won't die off like it did before.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155119)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:22pm CST
You have the right to go to a seafood forum and tell that "seafood taste awful and if you eat shellfish, you'll go to Hell."
But you have to expect and accept that people will respond to you in a very negative way.
Please stop clutching your pearls.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:22pm CST
transformers_va wrote:I love people who are so quick to try and silence others... it's so telling. Hey genius, you do know conversations are best when it includes all sides/views, not just the ones that fit.Razorbeast88 wrote:No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
You have the right to go to a seafood forum and tell that "seafood taste awful and if you eat shellfish, you'll go to Hell."
But you have to expect and accept that people will respond to you in a very negative way.
Please stop clutching your pearls.
Re: Another Rise of the Beasts Reveal with 3 Step Optimus Primal + Images of the Main Line Packaging (2155120)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:24pm CST
I've been a Transformers fan since I was watching homemade VHSs rented from Popingo Video and TFTM from the back of the grocery store. I have a room mainly filled with Transformers on display or in storage, plus overflow into the next room, after having sold a couple thousand dollars worth of my collection to make room.
You weren't acting "defensive"; you were acting badly and you're calling it "being defensive" in order to deflect the responsibility for your own actions onto others.
With that being said, a crocodile that turns into a 5mm compatible shotgun is worth $6 in my book. I think I spent more than that on a 3D printed Corgi/Missile Launcher, and I still haven't gotten him painted. (What color???)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:24pm CST
transformers_va wrote:Hey genius, when you have one person insinuating that you're a crybaby, and another telling you that you're bitching and moaning, it puts a person on the defensive (a.k.a. being a d!ck")... adjust how you approach people, and you might get a different result. With that being said, do you have anything constructive to add to the conversation, or do you only jump in to try and shut others down?Razorbeast88 wrote:Hey genius, you can have opposing views in a conversation without being a d!ck about it. Agree to disagree or whatever, But telling people they don't deserve to collect because they disagree with you is pretty stupid. And you wanna talk about silencing others.
I've been a Transformers fan since I was watching homemade VHSs rented from Popingo Video and TFTM from the back of the grocery store. I have a room mainly filled with Transformers on display or in storage, plus overflow into the next room, after having sold a couple thousand dollars worth of my collection to make room.
You weren't acting "defensive"; you were acting badly and you're calling it "being defensive" in order to deflect the responsibility for your own actions onto others.
With that being said, a crocodile that turns into a 5mm compatible shotgun is worth $6 in my book. I think I spent more than that on a 3D printed Corgi/Missile Launcher, and I still haven't gotten him painted. (What color???)
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Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:31pm CST
Still have my Super Spay-C, but I could kick myself for getting rid of my Puzzler.
Damn.
Posted by Brokebot on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:31pm CST
william-james88 wrote:What the hell is wrong with Gobots?
Still have my Super Spay-C, but I could kick myself for getting rid of my Puzzler.
Damn.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:33pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:33pm CST
ahem
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK folks, time to put a cap in that conversation.
Gatekeeping by saying your opinion means more based on the amount of time you've been collecting or the number of bots you own is offputting and just plain rude.
Remember just because you hate something with this kind of vitriol does not mean others cannot enjoy it. there are many tastes, none of them are wrong.
But you should not be an asshole about it either. And that is what I am seeing, and what I am formally stopping now. Next comment along the lines will not be so nice.
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:40pm CST
I'm excited for the crocodile shotgun as well, and thats probably it other than airazor. Just wondering who I wanna pair the shotgun with. Maybe Mutant tigatron?
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:40pm CST
Dr. Caelus wrote:
With that being said, a crocodile that turns into a 5mm compatible shotgun is worth $6 in my book. I think I spent more than that on a 3D printed Corgi/Missile Launcher, and I still haven't gotten him painted. (What color???)
I'm excited for the crocodile shotgun as well, and thats probably it other than airazor. Just wondering who I wanna pair the shotgun with. Maybe Mutant tigatron?
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Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:50pm CST
With bengal tigers having an affinity for water, that does make sense.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 3rd, 2023 @ 3:50pm CST
Razorbeast88 wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:
With that being said, a crocodile that turns into a 5mm compatible shotgun is worth $6 in my book. I think I spent more than that on a 3D printed Corgi/Missile Launcher, and I still haven't gotten him painted. (What color???)
I'm excited for the crocodile shotgun as well, and thats probably it other than airazor. Just wondering who I wanna pair the shotgun with. Maybe Mutant tigatron?
With bengal tigers having an affinity for water, that does make sense.
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Posted by Cheesinator on February 3rd, 2023 @ 5:43pm CST
Posted by Cheesinator on February 3rd, 2023 @ 5:43pm CST
Oh man these are utterly ridiculous and I love it. A monkey that turns into a robot, wearing a crocodile and firing at bad guys with a rhino's butt? I wish these came out when I was a kid because I'd have gone crazy for them.
I'll definitely pick a few of them up as presents for various families with kids.
I'll definitely pick a few of them up as presents for various families with kids.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 10:07pm CST
Look, in your case, if it's just about keeping up with product, then yeah deep discount is the way to go. I'm sure some will be heavily discounted next year, or in a bit more than that when what's left ends up at a liquidator. For some reason, I don't remember that happening with The Last Knight or the Bumblebee film, but my memory is hazy. Aside from that cute croc and Rhinox, these arent must haves for me either but my son likes them so I will end up with quite a few.
Speaking of my collection, it's mostly in tubs, so I never really see how large it is. But I went to a collector store today, the kind which buys a bunch of loose and MISB items from collectors who want to sell their whole collection at once and there was practically nothing they had that I didn't have (I was missing some accessories though). And this store was packed with product. That's when I realized how my house would look if I actually displayed all my figures.
Back to Gobots, yes when comparing all of gobots to all of transformers it's a no contest since you have the likes of Jetfire, the Dinobots, Whirl, Scorponok, Fort Max, Sky Lynx, Omega Supreme ect. But some Gobots fare way better than a bulk of G1, and they have this extra novelty factor. I don't know if I'm the only one but I preffer Pathfinder to Cosmos. And there is something really wholesome about Loco. It's just such a smart and simple design. I do preffer them to all the low budget G1 tf toys (like Throttlebots, minispys, ect), and even to the G1.5 toys we got like the Turbomasters.
Posted by william-james88 on February 3rd, 2023 @ 10:07pm CST
Brokebot wrote: I could kick myself for getting rid of my Puzzler.
Damn.
transformers_va wrote:There's nothing "wrong" with GoBots. I actually have many of mine from childhood, and still enjoy them. The difference is with quality of materials and intricacy of transformation. The Transformers are just far superior in both aspects.william-james88 wrote:What the hell is wrong with Gobots? They are way better than some of the stuff Hasbro was putting out at the time, like Throttlebots. And I have around the same amount of TFs as you (though I am including my Gobots). If you want to keep up, you'll have to buy these ROTB toys
Impressive collection!
Look, in your case, if it's just about keeping up with product, then yeah deep discount is the way to go. I'm sure some will be heavily discounted next year, or in a bit more than that when what's left ends up at a liquidator. For some reason, I don't remember that happening with The Last Knight or the Bumblebee film, but my memory is hazy. Aside from that cute croc and Rhinox, these arent must haves for me either but my son likes them so I will end up with quite a few.
Speaking of my collection, it's mostly in tubs, so I never really see how large it is. But I went to a collector store today, the kind which buys a bunch of loose and MISB items from collectors who want to sell their whole collection at once and there was practically nothing they had that I didn't have (I was missing some accessories though). And this store was packed with product. That's when I realized how my house would look if I actually displayed all my figures.
Back to Gobots, yes when comparing all of gobots to all of transformers it's a no contest since you have the likes of Jetfire, the Dinobots, Whirl, Scorponok, Fort Max, Sky Lynx, Omega Supreme ect. But some Gobots fare way better than a bulk of G1, and they have this extra novelty factor. I don't know if I'm the only one but I preffer Pathfinder to Cosmos. And there is something really wholesome about Loco. It's just such a smart and simple design. I do preffer them to all the low budget G1 tf toys (like Throttlebots, minispys, ect), and even to the G1.5 toys we got like the Turbomasters.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:40am CST
You fucking hypocrite. Eat shit.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:40am CST
transformers_va wrote:I love people who are so quick to try and silence others... it's so telling. Hey genius, you do know conversations are best when it includes all sides/views, not just the ones that fit.Razorbeast88 wrote:No amount of owned transformers or years collecting gives you any business telling anyone else what they do and don't deserve. If all you're gonna do in this discussion is b!tch and moan might as well stick to the toyline discussions that you actually like
You fucking hypocrite. Eat shit.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:11am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:11am CST
This must have been fun for a Taiwanese fan. Both voyager class Rhinox and Optimus Prime were found for sale in Taiwan and the pictures of this sighting were uploaded to Facebook. These are NOT part of the studio Series line but rather part of the mainline which we've been seeing a lot of lately. Some of the previous toys we saw pulled from previous toys, do you think it's the same for Rhinox? And how about Optimus, does this look like a fully new mold to you? While Hasbro revealed several Rise of the Beasts toys lately, we are still missing a big chunk including the previously leaked deluxe class figures and these voyager class figures, which should be released at retail all at the same time.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:13am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:13am CST
Hard to tell if those Rhinox and Optimus are 100% new molds with 100% new or shared engineering, or repaints with slight remolding.
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Posted by SpaceEagle on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:20am CST
Posted by SpaceEagle on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:20am CST
OP looks exactly how I was hoping he'd look, I can't wait to buy one when it actually comes out.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:26am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:26am CST
Honestly, I think both of these are new molds.
But HOLY FUCK, look at those legs on Rhinox, it looks like on hell of a complex series of folding panels onto one another.
But HOLY FUCK, look at those legs on Rhinox, it looks like on hell of a complex series of folding panels onto one another.
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Posted by 84everfan on February 4th, 2023 @ 3:12am CST
Posted by 84everfan on February 4th, 2023 @ 3:12am CST
These kinda kick ass, I'll have to get these
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Posted by Emerje on February 4th, 2023 @ 4:24am CST
Posted by Emerje on February 4th, 2023 @ 4:24am CST
Both appear to be new molds. Optimus doesn't appear to share any parts with the Studio Series figure and features a more simplified transformation. Same with Rhinox, it isn't based on the Generations or Kingdom figure in any way.
They both look pretty good, but I'll pass on Optimus until we know what the Target exclusive SS version is. It's kinda funny that somehow that panel on the front of Rhinox's leg isn't clipped in despite being CG. Looks like the horns can be removed and used as a weapon, not sure if it's a necessary step since the rhino head is just stuck on the back of the bot like any other (non-TM) Rhinox figure. Bonus weapon, maybe? His transformation is deceptively simple despite all the leg panels. The bot legs form the bulk of the rhino body, the sides of the rhino are his shins. The bot head is exposed under the rhino's neck. The rear legs are just sorta sitting on the back of the bot legs, the perspective of the photo hides them. It's probably a fun figure to mess around with if you like the aesthetic.
Emerje
They both look pretty good, but I'll pass on Optimus until we know what the Target exclusive SS version is. It's kinda funny that somehow that panel on the front of Rhinox's leg isn't clipped in despite being CG. Looks like the horns can be removed and used as a weapon, not sure if it's a necessary step since the rhino head is just stuck on the back of the bot like any other (non-TM) Rhinox figure. Bonus weapon, maybe? His transformation is deceptively simple despite all the leg panels. The bot legs form the bulk of the rhino body, the sides of the rhino are his shins. The bot head is exposed under the rhino's neck. The rear legs are just sorta sitting on the back of the bot legs, the perspective of the photo hides them. It's probably a fun figure to mess around with if you like the aesthetic.
Emerje
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Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 4th, 2023 @ 5:11am CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on February 4th, 2023 @ 5:11am CST
That Rhinox is wonderful, buylt I'm one of those few who like the Kingdom figure. Still, there are so many of the RoB molds I would buy if they recolored them as Transmetals.
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Posted by Perceptor1996 on February 4th, 2023 @ 6:03am CST
Posted by Perceptor1996 on February 4th, 2023 @ 6:03am CST
For me, this shows that I'm gonna go to Studio Series for both these characters. I don't get why almost all of the toys of the Beasts aren't making them look like they do in the movie and that Prime shows how much better he looks in this then in Bumblebee, but Part of the appeal of getting a toy of him from this film for me is having a more G1 looking Prime with the 07 weapons, which hopefully the Studio Series version has the sword and cannon that he's using in the trailer.
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on February 4th, 2023 @ 7:29am CST
Posted by Immortal Starscream on February 4th, 2023 @ 7:29am CST
definately new molds. prolly gonna have to get that rhinox. I want to see better images of his guns though. they do look like they spin with those clip in style pegs that hasbro loves to use on wheels now. if the back half of them are beefy, I may have to get 2 of these to properly arm up my kingdom rhinox.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 4th, 2023 @ 7:49am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 4th, 2023 @ 7:49am CST
That Optimus is a sure skip for me, unless there's a sale. Because that's just one more G1 style Optimus to add to the pile.
But that Rhinox look fresh and bad-ass so I'll keep an eye open for him.
But that Rhinox look fresh and bad-ass so I'll keep an eye open for him.
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Posted by Ig89ninja on February 4th, 2023 @ 8:31am CST
Posted by Ig89ninja on February 4th, 2023 @ 8:31am CST
So far I’ve been more inclined to pick up the ROTB line’s Maximals than the SS ones, and Rhinox here just helped that inclination.
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Posted by Sculyblast on February 4th, 2023 @ 8:37am CST
That's my problem with most of these figures. They are voyager-sized figures, but the transformation seems to form no puzzle whatsoever. I always think it is a shame when they waste an opportunity beast-formers grant to make transformation into an interesting puzzle. The RotB Cheetor voyager is such a shame and just defaults to "stand up and walk" transformation.
Posted by Sculyblast on February 4th, 2023 @ 8:37am CST
Emerje wrote: His transformation is deceptively simple despite all the leg panels. The bot legs form the bulk of the rhino body, the sides of the rhino are his shins. The bot head is exposed under the rhino's neck. The rear legs are just sorta sitting on the back of the bot legs, the perspective of the photo hides them. It's probably a fun figure to mess around with if you like the aesthetic.
Emerje
That's my problem with most of these figures. They are voyager-sized figures, but the transformation seems to form no puzzle whatsoever. I always think it is a shame when they waste an opportunity beast-formers grant to make transformation into an interesting puzzle. The RotB Cheetor voyager is such a shame and just defaults to "stand up and walk" transformation.
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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 4th, 2023 @ 8:46am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 4th, 2023 @ 8:46am CST
In terms of colour palette, why are the Maximals so dull? Both Cheetor and Rhinox are both so muted, especially in direct comparison to Prime there. The Bot Modes need to be vibrant to offset/compliment the Beast Mode skin. It makes the distinct green on Rhinox' chain guns (of doom) really jarring, when next to the figure.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2023 @ 11:48am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2023 @ 11:48am CST
Because this is the live-action film series and if you're not a slick street vehicle with a snazzy new paint job, your colors are always dull and muted.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:In terms of colour palette, why are the Maximals so dull? Both Cheetor and Rhinox are both so muted, especially in direct comparison to Prime there. The Bot Modes need to be vibrant to offset/compliment the Beast Mode skin. It makes the distinct green on Rhinox' chain guns (of doom) really jarring, when next to the figure.
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:01pm CST
I like kingdom Rhinox as well, though I'll consider this one once I see better images and a review. And I'm assuming at some point there'll be a studio series version of this guy
I'll be getting airazor from this line and passing her off as a transmetal/wreckers airazor. I can't think of another character the figure could be but the knives and legs becoming the wings are so cool
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:01pm CST
Dr. Caelus wrote:That Rhinox is wonderful, buylt I'm one of those few who like the Kingdom figure. Still, there are so many of the RoB molds I would buy if they recolored them as Transmetals.
I like kingdom Rhinox as well, though I'll consider this one once I see better images and a review. And I'm assuming at some point there'll be a studio series version of this guy
I'll be getting airazor from this line and passing her off as a transmetal/wreckers airazor. I can't think of another character the figure could be but the knives and legs becoming the wings are so cool
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Posted by durroth on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by durroth on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:27pm CST
with those legs, rhinox is the true successor to the prime vehicon mold
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:46pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 4th, 2023 @ 12:46pm CST
It's a pass on Prime, but Rhinox looks better than I thought he would. I think I'll wait for the eventual SS figure, but I'm curious to have this compared to T30 and Kingdom.
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Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CST
Posted by Razorbeast88 on February 4th, 2023 @ 1:07pm CST
Rhinox kinda looks like doctor doom
Maybe I can pass him off as an evil rhinox with the memories of tankor or something
Maybe I can pass him off as an evil rhinox with the memories of tankor or something
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Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 4th, 2023 @ 2:45pm CST
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 4th, 2023 @ 2:45pm CST
Thank god the toy doesn't have the giant stupid arm cannon that he has in the trailer. I hate that f*king thing.
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Posted by Overcracker on February 4th, 2023 @ 3:18pm CST
Posted by Overcracker on February 4th, 2023 @ 3:18pm CST
Rhinox definitely looks interesting. Surprising he still gets his chainguns of doom from the TV show.
They do look bigger than Kingdom’s.
Prime just looks like a slightly modified BB Prime.
They do look bigger than Kingdom’s.
Prime just looks like a slightly modified BB Prime.
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Posted by Brokebot on February 4th, 2023 @ 5:46pm CST
I have to agree. Rhinox looks pretty sharp, but there's nothing that makes that Prime stand out amongst the 8,793,421 other Primes Hasbro has pumped out.
Posted by Brokebot on February 4th, 2023 @ 5:46pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Optimus is a sure skip for me, unless there's a sale. Because that's just one more G1 style Optimus to add to the pile.
But that Rhinox look fresh and bad-ass so I'll keep an eye open for him.
I have to agree. Rhinox looks pretty sharp, but there's nothing that makes that Prime stand out amongst the 8,793,421 other Primes Hasbro has pumped out.
