Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

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Folks, between Hasbro Combiner Wars, Takara Unite Warriors, and the Generation 2 Collection Pack, what's the right one for you? Keep in mind this is just one guys opinion, but I'll break down my experiences. So without further ado, lets get started!

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

In vehicle mode, and I'm not getting specific because I don't know exactly what he is, I think the clear winner is UW Onslaught. The sheer amount of paint apps (even on the guns!) is tremendous. It almost makes Hasbro G1 CW Onslaught look like a prototype. The G2 'Slaught could have a little more bling camo, but he's pretty decent.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Robot modes are all pretty great, each faithful to what they're representing.
BUT.
I hate the purple lights on Hasbro's G1 CW knees, TakaraTomy's knee locking tabs (for combined mode) aren't solid, and G2's knees suffer the same problem as Victorion's Pyra Magna. Damn their collective knees! They all look great though.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

This fella is a mixed bag. To me UW Vortex has the better copter mode, and CW G1 Vortex has the better robot mode. The wonderful bright colors on Hasbro's really pop, however those popping colors unfortunately detract from the alt mode. On the flip side, UW Vortex looks proper in chopper mode (see what I did there?) but kinda muted by being basically just two colors (although they do go so far as to make his combiner peg two colors which is a nice touch). And G2 Vex, well, he's my bro because I had him as a kid.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Brawl Brawl Brawl... we all know that the mold has drawbacks, but that's not news. Between UW and CW G1 Brawl, he remains the most unchanged member of the team. No one made their decision between the two Brutici based on Brawl. I will say, I appreciate the G2 version more though. The other two just look boring in comparison.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

I wasn't sold on him using the Rook mold as I don't see Swindle as bruiser, and that's what that mold says to me. The head sculpt is great, but when I played with UW Swindle I fell in love. The purple paint they used is glorious, and the bits of silver painted details add a surprising amount to him. And he has another two-colored combiner peg as well! As for G2, I wish there was more camo present in bot mode. Otherwise he's represntin'.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

There's a lot to say about these figu-

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Alright alright, get back in line boys.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Anyways, many people were upset that Hasbro made him a jet, others argued a jet made more sense but wanted a new head. Regardless, most people have made their peace with him because he mans his post as an arm pretty well. G2-Off is alright, but the head is more glaringly out of place in white for some reason.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

The from scratch UW Blast-Off... isn't all I expected. I was on his side until he was in hand, but he has some issues. The chest/beer gut isn't bad in hand, but I don't like how high his shoulders are. His neck piece pops off all the time on my copy, and in arm mode his legs just do not want to stay together. Overall, his QC issues bum me out but I do like him.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

It's obvious that TakaraTomy was going for cartoon accuracy, but it appears that Hasbro was going for original G1 toy accuracy. Based on those merits, I feel that one is not superior to the other as they both represent something different.

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Throw Generation 2 on top of it (with it's Takara United'esq shiny paint apps) and there's a flavor for everyone!

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Final Thoughts:
Out of the three, the G2 set is my #1. As a whole, they're unified spectacularly with that shiny purple camo and the chest piece is simply stunning. But my favorite figures out of all three sets is tied between Hasbro CW G1 Vortex and UW Swindle. I honestly think whatever Bruticus you choose, you can't go wrong. The only Combiner I think that could upstage him is possibly UW Computron, but only time will tell on that! Shajaki out!

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

Transformers News: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus

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This article was last modified on Sunday, July 10th, 2016 8:36pm CDT

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Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804467)
Posted by carytheone on July 10th, 2016 @ 8:23pm CDT
:APPLAUSE: good stuff

He's my fav CW 'biner ;)^
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804472)
Posted by Randomhero on July 10th, 2016 @ 8:54pm CDT
I really wanted to pick up all three but after getting the Hasbro one when he came out I felt "this is enough to for me" Bruticus is my favorite combiner, has always been and I wanted to get all three to display but I decided it's not necessary. I considered getting takaras at least until I saw the color scheme but for me, it's way too bright and flashy. I like the dark, muted melancholy colors of hasbro's and blastoff looks great and well balanced with Vortext, Takaras just looks too big and unbalanced with vortex. I finally got to see some of the reviews for him and man is he not a very good and stable figure.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804476)
Posted by Mkall on July 10th, 2016 @ 9:24pm CDT
You know who the REAL loser is here?

Generations Fall of Cybertron Bruticus

Awesome review! Well done!
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804477)
Posted by DeathReviews on July 10th, 2016 @ 9:25pm CDT
Can't wait to review my G2 Fruiticus - if HTS ever delivers him....
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804480)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 10th, 2016 @ 9:29pm CDT
Mkall wrote:You know who the REAL loser is here?

Generations Fall of Cybertron Bruticus

:lol:

I would really love a re-shell of the cw figs into the foc bruticus, skydive already looks like foc blast-off if you angle the side-fins up by 45 degree's...
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804498)
Posted by Cobotron on July 10th, 2016 @ 10:11pm CDT
WARNING!

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Staring at all three Brutici may induce seizures.


:lol:
Great review Jak! ;)^
Fun to read. Fun to look at.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804521)
Posted by Seibertron on July 11th, 2016 @ 12:19am CDT
Great write-up, Shajaki! Can't wait to bust open UW Bruticus and G2 Bruticus hopefully this week. Gotta get through the Titans Return figures first before I can do that though. Thanks again for the article. This is fantastic!

I'm bummed about the light shade of brown used on Takara's Blast Off more than anything with him. If they had used a darker brown like the original toy or Hasbro's Blast Off, I'd be way more excited about him.

Good call on CW Vortex and UW Swindle. I think I agree.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804533)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on July 11th, 2016 @ 4:39am CDT
I have UW Bruticus and I really love the set. It's everything I'd want in a Bruticus figure. I don't really have a problem with UW Blast-Off's head coming off, but I'm pretty careful with transforming the figure to a limb. But when it does come loose, I just pop it back into place. I don't think any permanent damage will result from this. And I agree that UW Blast-Off looks better in-hand as his chest looks disproportionately huge in pictures.

I really want to pull the trigger on a CW G2 Bruticus set, as that was the first combiner I ever had, but I really wanted a proper representation of Vortex and Blast-Off (a four-blade main rotor on Vortex and either a proper head and/or shuttle alt-mode for Blast-Off). In addition, I don't feel there are enough purple camouflage splotches on the figures, especially on some bot modes, and I'm puzzled over the lack of G2 Decepticon symbols.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804534)
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on July 11th, 2016 @ 4:50am CDT
Great article. I love stuff like this. I agree on some of these. We got Blast Off in hand and decided Hasbro's was better. My son liked Brawl's head on Hasbro's better too. We both loved Takara's Onslaught and Vortex. As for Swindle, we thought we were going to go with Takara's, but once we got it hand, we preferred Hasbro's. As such, we are now selling 3 of the 5 Combaticons in Takara's Unite Warriors boxed set of Bruticus.

Here are the links of anyone is interested in buying them.

Blast Off: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131873733333

Swindle: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131873746127

Brawl: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131873741062
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804540)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 11th, 2016 @ 7:39am CDT
Nice review! I must admit, feet aside, I do like the LOOK of the Brutici quite a lot. The CW toy looks pretty good (and if Blast Off was a new jet mold instead of just a redeco of Slingshot I'd say it'd be perfect), the UW version looks great (though I really prefer the silver chest plate, and I hear the QC is wonky as hell) and the G2 version is a hell of a Dudicus. Wrong faction symbols aside.

Anyway, here's my opinion on the individual robots (aesthetically at least).

Onslaught: UW wins hands down. That blue is just sexy as hell. The vehicle mode looks a bit weird with the brown chestplate though. CW 'Slaught isn't bad but he's a little...washed out? And the G2 version, as much as I love G2, is just too yellow. He needs more purple to break up the cheesiness.

Vortex: They all look great, though UW gets a bit of an edge for the 4-bladed rotor. Surprisingly, I find G2 Vortex to be the most aesthetically pleasing colour wise.

Brawl: G2 Brawl clearly went to the same camouflage school as G2 Megatron, and he looks a bit...loud for my liking. UW and CW are much the same but I prefer UW for the little things, like the head, darker treads and gunmetal thighs.

Swindle: UW and CW Swindle both look superb- it's a tie for them. The real winner IMO is G2 Swindle. I love G2 Swindles in general, and this is no exception. Could do with a tad more purple but regardless, he's awesome. That tomato red is just on the money.

Blast Off: CW looks...boring. Even aside from the fact he's a straight redeco of Slingshot, he's just dull. UW has a really nice deco, even if it isn't accurate, but I find the mold disappointing. He looks off in some way. G2 Blast Off though...It ain't Blast Off, but it's certainly good looking. His Harrier-esque jet mode combined with the colour scheme reminds me of an Arctic Harrier. Honestly I'd buy him on his own if he were available separately. Question is, what to call him? Avalanche? Ice-Up? Snowblind?

EDIT: For those wondering, this is an Arctic Harrier.
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Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804544)
Posted by CommanderShadowmus on July 11th, 2016 @ 8:22am CDT
That Best of the Best image...

You got it the other way around... Takara's Vortex looks SO MUCH cooler than that clownish mess Hasbro gave us!
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804545)
Posted by galvatron00 on July 11th, 2016 @ 8:24am CDT
Look at you Shaj, getting a front page review in your own collection thread!! One day, I shall do the same :lol:

Still awesome that you have all three, to my zero.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804589)
Posted by shajaki on July 11th, 2016 @ 11:14am CDT
Seibertron wrote:Thanks again for the article. This is fantastic!
Thanks boss ;)^

Seibertron wrote:If they had used a darker brown like the original toy or Hasbro's Blast Off, I'd be way more excited about him.
Hopefully like Slingshot, Dead-end, and Groove, Uncle Hasby will give us that Takara mold Blast-Off. And IF they do, just maybe he'll be proper colors.

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I agree that UW Blast-Off looks better in-hand as his chest looks disproportionately huge in pictures.
I had actually become a little panicked when I saw later pics of Blast-Off and that gut. but totally, in had it's no biggie.

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:I really want to pull the trigger on a CW G2 Bruticus set, as that was the first combiner I ever had, but I really wanted a proper representation of Vortex and Blast-Off. In addition, I don't feel there are enough purple camouflage splotches on the figures, especially on some bot modes, and I'm puzzled over the lack of G2 Decepticon symbols.
While I'm confident about seeing a separate release of Takara-Off, I'm afraid these Hasbro G2 sets are all we'll see to represent these variations. And yeah, my only two complaints about him are that he could have used more purple all over, and the G1 symbols. But if I'm being honest, while initially enraged about the G1 symbols, I all but forgot about them in hand. That Bruti chest plate just melts me 8-}

Delta Magnus wrote:Brawl: UW for the little things, like the head, darker treads and gunmetal thighs.
Yeah, that is something I meant to note in the review. UW Brawl does have a handful of small details (like gunmetal paint as opposed to flat grey) that set him apart nicely.

Delta Magnus wrote:Blast Off: UW has a really nice deco, even if it isn't accurate, but I find the mold disappointing. He looks off in some way.
And that's just it, he might LOOK off, but trust me, QC aside he's nice in hand ;)

Delta Magnus wrote:G2 Blast Off though...It ain't Blast Off, but it's certainly good looking. His Harrier-esque jet mode combined with the colour scheme reminds me of an Arctic Harrier. Honestly I'd buy him on his own if he were available separately. Question is, what to call him? Avalanche? Ice-Up? Snowblind?
EDIT: For those wondering, this is an Arctic Harrier.
*snip*
I like the way you think, and those names are awesome ;)^

itscramtastic wrote:Look at you Shaj, getting a front page review in your own collection thread!! One day, I shall do the same :lol:
Yeah, I wasn't sure where to put it since it featured 3 figures from two lines. Next time I'll probably just make it it's own thread #-o
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804590)
Posted by shajaki on July 11th, 2016 @ 11:15am CDT
Thanks to everyone else for the kind words :x
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804603)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 11th, 2016 @ 12:13pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Brawl: UW for the little things, like the head, darker treads and gunmetal thighs.
Yeah, that is something I meant to note in the review. UW Brawl does have a handful of small details (like gunmetal paint as opposed to flat grey) that set him apart nicely.

Oh, it's paint is it? Awesome! I assumed it was just bare plastic.

Delta Magnus wrote:Blast Off: UW has a really nice deco, even if it isn't accurate, but I find the mold disappointing. He looks off in some way.
And that's just it, he might LOOK off, but trust me, QC aside he's nice in hand ;)

Alas, it's the QC that put me off CW/UW. :( Still, glad to hear you like him.

You know, it's occurred to me. Nobody ever seems to know what to do with Blast Off's nosecone. On the FP and Warbotron versions it just sits on the back, and with the UW figure it folds up...giving him man-tits. If they aren't going to make the arms out of the nosecone (which I can understand, as it might not work so well in combined mode) why not have the nosecone split in half and form Gunbuster-esque shoulder pylons? Not G1 accurate...but then UW Blast Off isn't anyway.

Delta Magnus wrote:G2 Blast Off though...It ain't Blast Off, but it's certainly good looking. His Harrier-esque jet mode combined with the colour scheme reminds me of an Arctic Harrier. Honestly I'd buy him on his own if he were available separately. Question is, what to call him? Avalanche? Ice-Up? Snowblind?
EDIT: For those wondering, this is an Arctic Harrier.
*snip*
I like the way you think, and those names are awesome ;)^

Heh heh, thank you very much! I suppose with a bit of mental gymnastics he could also make a serviceable Flattop.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804710)
Posted by BATTLEMASTER IIC on July 11th, 2016 @ 6:18pm CDT
I agree that the best part of G2 Bruticus is that chest plate. I absolutely love the way it looks.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1804997)
Posted by shajaki on July 12th, 2016 @ 3:35pm CDT
Brutici hijinks aside, it's time to get to my recent hauls.

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Dready. He's neat. I like him. Average jetformer with a nice deco. Not much to say, other than for Lena prices I recommend him.

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Hypery Surgery Prime. I wasn't interested to begin with, but felt obligated because I have the other two big TAV Primes. He's kinda fun, but wholly disappointing. In normal mode, my copy has prematurely popping wings, which is really annoying.

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Revealing Super Mode (or whatever) is neat, and that face mask looks bad-frickin-ass. But that awesome mask is stuck, stock straight. And that's just where my negatives start. His forearms.... FALL OFF. Where his forearms peg in, there's no stopper! I was testing his posability and tried to turn his arm there (no forearm swivel BTW, which is super weak) and it fell off. And while they are secure enough to stay on during a shake test, they do fall off easily. His paint apps in bot mode are pretty nice, but in truck mode he is seriously lacking. And then there's the cab backpack...

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Uhhh.... who designed this? Why on earth could this not collapse, or AT VERY LEAST not lie flush against his back? Nothing about this figure upsets me more than this. Upon opening him, that cab piece was not attached to him. And at first I didn't attach it the obvious way because I thought "What? No way it goes on like that. That's horrible", but sadly that's how it goes.

So my rant comes to a close with this, only buy him if:
1) He's domestic for you, on a shelf, and on sale.
2) You're just THAT BIG a fan of the show.
or 3) You're a kid or its for your kid. Because like I said, it is kinda fun.

MOVING ON!

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My first MP KO. He has some visual flaws, but looks the part.
Would I ever buy another one? Not a friggin chance. Maybe I'm spoiled with legit MP's, but no way would I pay this price again (around 300 CAD shipped) for something of this quality. He's solid enough to pose and such, but there's enough loose parts (and janky scary parts) to stop me from ever making a purchase like this again. A 20-30 dollar CHMS Seeker? Sure. But not this.

I do really like the bronzish color of his eyes though.

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Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1805034)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 12th, 2016 @ 4:37pm CDT
Dreadwing looks pretty neat. I don't know about you but somehow I can see that mold making a good Starscream with a new head and a paintjob. The "peacock feathers" seem fittingly flamboyant/thematic for him.

I'm sorry to hear that Prime is a washout. I must admit the only figures from the RID line I've been buying have been the very small ones (Legion Strongarm and 3 Mini-Cons) and whilst they're fun to mess with they do feel noticeably cheaper than previous efforts (which for £7 a pop is outrageous). The bigger figures have all looked unbearably flimsy and crude for my liking.

And whilst obviously I'm not happy to hear that your MP Ultra Magnus was a QC riddled mess, I can't help but feel a little bit relieved that you've been converted away from KO MPs. Not least of all because I know how wonky they can be. :lol: Still, I will agree he certainly LOOKS the part.
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1805052)
Posted by shajaki on July 12th, 2016 @ 5:26pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:I'm sorry to hear that Prime is a washout. The bigger figures have all looked unbearably flimsy and crude for my liking.
By bigger do you mean anything Warrior and up? There's next to nothing when you go bigger (three Prime's and a Grim?) and the Warrior class has been quite solid. Fun toys ;)^

Delta Magnus wrote:And whilst obviously I'm not happy to hear that your MP Ultra Magnus was a QC riddled mess, I can't help but feel a little bit relieved that you've been converted away from KO MPs.
And I very quickly have to eat my words. Obviously I need to see more (production samples and video reviews) but if they make MP11 Rainmakers, Welcoming Committee, and Purple Clones, I'm probably going to buy them. #-o
Re: Battle Of The Brutici - Seibertron User Review: Unite Warriors, Combiner Wars, G2 Bruticus (1805056)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 12th, 2016 @ 5:31pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:I'm sorry to hear that Prime is a washout. The bigger figures have all looked unbearably flimsy and crude for my liking.
By bigger do you mean anything Warrior and up? There's next to nothing when you go bigger (three Prime's and a Grim?) and the Warrior class has been quite solid. Fun toys ;)^

Yeah I was talking about Warriors specifically. I was going to pick up Strongarm but the big ol' hollow legs really put me off. I suppose I can't complain too much as I own Rook and love him, but somehow it seems far more...egregious on Strongarm. Perhaps because the lower legs are proportionally bigger and thus have more "empty space" in them. I dunno, if I do buy Strongarm I'll be customizing her. A lot.

Delta Magnus wrote:And whilst obviously I'm not happy to hear that your MP Ultra Magnus was a QC riddled mess, I can't help but feel a little bit relieved that you've been converted away from KO MPs.
And I very quickly have to eat my words. Obviously I need to see more (production samples and video reviews) but if they make MP11 Rainmakers, Welcoming Committee, and Purple Clones, I'm probably going to buy them. #-o

Noooooooooooo! :lol:

In all seriousness, either wait for reviews or just buy one to begin with to test the quality. If it's good, buy the rest (and look disdainfully at them every so often). If it's crap, well, don't buy them.

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