Beelzeboss "Growing Pains" Goldbug Upgrade Set
Saturday, July 9th, 2011 11:35AM CDT
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Posted by Praxus Prime on July 9th, 2011 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by NebulanFree on July 9th, 2011 @ 11:54am CDT
Praxus Prime wrote:So does this mean we'll be seeing Kup's "$#*%-Piece" upgrade?
LOL, $#*%-Piece. That video is hilarious.
This is a great idea, and I am glad someone is putting it into production.
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 9th, 2011 @ 12:25pm CDT
Posted by Sodan-1 on July 9th, 2011 @ 2:17pm CDT
Posted by all_the_primes on July 9th, 2011 @ 3:30pm CDT
NebulanFree wrote:Praxus Prime wrote:So does this mean we'll be seeing Kup's "$#*%-Piece" upgrade?
LOL, $#*%-Piece. That video is hilarious.
This is a great idea, and I am glad someone is putting it into production.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq1_6D9Q ... ideo_title
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on July 9th, 2011 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by alexison on July 9th, 2011 @ 4:22pm CDT
Posted by NemesisMonkeySupreme on July 9th, 2011 @ 4:35pm CDT
Posted by Optimus1138 on July 9th, 2011 @ 4:35pm CDT
Posted by --B-- on July 9th, 2011 @ 6:51pm CDT
Posted by rpetras on July 9th, 2011 @ 7:50pm CDT
--B-- wrote:I bought a United Bumblebee just for this occasion.
Yup, me too.
Saves me the pain of doing the upgrade myself.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on July 10th, 2011 @ 1:11am CDT
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 10th, 2011 @ 2:11am CDT
LOST Cybertronian wrote:BBTS is now down to 2 United Bumblebees. They had like 27 or something earlier in the evening. Just FYI.
They're out.
Posted by El Duque on July 10th, 2011 @ 2:53am CDT
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 10th, 2011 @ 2:59am CDT
El Duque wrote:Just FYI, the set is already available for pre-order at TFsource.
The last set was like $19 and change. This has a head and one handgun. So you're getting less this time and paying approximately ten more dollars? How lame. I'm sure I'll get a Goldbug of sorts but it won't be for that price.
::EDIT:: Pardon me, it was $22.95.
Posted by Quantum Reflex on July 10th, 2011 @ 2:45pm CDT
Posted by El Duque on July 10th, 2011 @ 3:02pm CDT
Quantum Reflex wrote:It is too expensive, how can you justify that price?. Even as an avid Bee & Bug collector You'd think I'd be the one who can Justify the price.... Sadly not - $30 for a head and a gun that doesn't even exist - adding a gun is a poor attempt to Justify the price. Get rid of the gun and lower the price to $10/15. Don't treat collectors as dumb cash cows.
I figured you'd be all over this. Guess you can wait for Venksta's version.
Posted by alexison on July 10th, 2011 @ 3:24pm CDT
El Duque wrote:Quantum Reflex wrote:It is too expensive, how can you justify that price?. Even as an avid Bee & Bug collector You'd think I'd be the one who can Justify the price.... Sadly not - $30 for a head and a gun that doesn't even exist - adding a gun is a poor attempt to Justify the price. Get rid of the gun and lower the price to $10/15. Don't treat collectors as dumb cash cows.
I figured you'd be all over this. Guess you can wait for Venksta's version.
Thats what I'll be doing as well. Last time we talked he has this, a Hubcap, and CJ sets coming down the pipe.
Posted by El Duque on July 10th, 2011 @ 3:33pm CDT
Posted by alexison on July 10th, 2011 @ 3:39pm CDT
El Duque wrote:I'm hopeful for a Hubcap upgrade, in fact I bought a clearanced RtS BB just in case.
Me too lol and a second CJ
Posted by El Duque on July 10th, 2011 @ 3:43pm CDT
amcgrath929 wrote:El Duque wrote:I'm hopeful for a Hubcap upgrade, in fact I bought a clearanced RtS BB just in case.
Me too lol and a second CJ
Great minds think alike
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 10th, 2011 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by Midnight_Fox on July 10th, 2011 @ 5:25pm CDT
amcgrath929 wrote:El Duque wrote:Quantum Reflex wrote:It is too expensive, how can you justify that price?. Even as an avid Bee & Bug collector You'd think I'd be the one who can Justify the price.... Sadly not - $30 for a head and a gun that doesn't even exist - adding a gun is a poor attempt to Justify the price. Get rid of the gun and lower the price to $10/15. Don't treat collectors as dumb cash cows.
I figured you'd be all over this. Guess you can wait for Venksta's version.
Thats what I'll be doing as well. Last time we talked he has this, a Hubcap, and CJ sets coming down the pipe.
Venksta has a CJ set coming? I may just have to get a Classics CJ to replace my WFC style one for that.
Posted by alexison on July 10th, 2011 @ 5:44pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:amcgrath929 wrote:El Duque wrote:Quantum Reflex wrote:It is too expensive, how can you justify that price?. Even as an avid Bee & Bug collector You'd think I'd be the one who can Justify the price.... Sadly not - $30 for a head and a gun that doesn't even exist - adding a gun is a poor attempt to Justify the price. Get rid of the gun and lower the price to $10/15. Don't treat collectors as dumb cash cows.
I figured you'd be all over this. Guess you can wait for Venksta's version.
Thats what I'll be doing as well. Last time we talked he has this, a Hubcap, and CJ sets coming down the pipe.
Venksta has a CJ set coming? I may just have to get a Classics CJ to replace my WFC style one for that.
Yes he is. It is supposedly more than just a new head and weapons as well. He's going the FP route with alt mode add ons as well.
Posted by Flux Convoy on July 11th, 2011 @ 1:33pm CDT
amcgrath929 wrote:
Yes he is. It is supposedly more than just a new head and weapons as well. He's going the FP route with alt mode add ons as well.
I already have a CJ head that I think is perfect. Car mode stuff might be worth the look though.
Posted by alexison on July 11th, 2011 @ 1:49pm CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:amcgrath929 wrote:
Yes he is. It is supposedly more than just a new head and weapons as well. He's going the FP route with alt mode add ons as well.
I already have a CJ head that I think is perfect. Car mode stuff might be worth the look though.
Yeah, you're custom head is really cool. I have a custom head on one of my CJ's that I'm pretty happy with. Venksta's artwork made the head look more IDE style which I like and I'm sure the weapons will be top notch. I've never had any trouble with any of his kits so I'm sure it will be cool.
Posted by El Duque on October 11th, 2011 @ 11:29am CDT
Thanks to site sponsor Kapow Toys for the heads up, their pre-order has the set listed for a December release.
Posted by Nemesor on October 11th, 2011 @ 11:44am CDT
Man, I'm a sucker.
Posted by Quantum Reflex on October 11th, 2011 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by rpetras on October 11th, 2011 @ 1:27pm CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 11th, 2011 @ 2:21pm CDT
"Looks a lot more G1 now, glad I chose this one rather than RFs".
It looks more G1 now based on what? These are computer generated examples, they still have yet to release (to my knowledge) an actual hands-on solid prototype complete with paint aps and gun color detail. Renderform did this weeks ago as his ordering process geared up so he could show his potential customers what they were getting. And I too am G1 allllll day long, and based on what I'm seeing thus far Renderform is the clear winner here. When you do a product and cost comparison, your actually getting more for your money with RF...a headsculpt (which is VERY accurate in my opinion) and TWO guns. The RF upgrade kit makes little modest insecure Bumblebee into more of the bad-ass 'bot he always wanted to be. Also you get the benefit of multiple color options for those people out there that don't have the patience or money to track down a United Gold Bumblebee. And having that option is the tipping point here. I ordered both a black and navy-blue version (and it was nice to have that option) not to mention the kickass Bumper and Hubcap sculpts Venkstra's got coming down the pipeline. Completing the minibot line for Classics collectors...now thats G1 loyalty!
The only downside here is Renderforms unique ordering process which makes his products difficult to trackdown if you miss out during the initial ordering process (I'm still trying to find a freakin' RED ALERT kit that I missed out on back in the winter). So the benifit of "Devil" kits is they can generally be purchased at TF Source etc...and I did appreciate and admire their Cliffjumper kit (both red & yellow versions).
Everybodies entitled to their opinion but I'm going to have to go with Renderform on this one.
Posted by GetRightRobot on October 11th, 2011 @ 4:56pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Reflex on October 11th, 2011 @ 5:28pm CDT
a headsculpt (which is VERY accurate in my opinion)
I'm trying to figure out why such an angry reply, anyway... Compare the two dude, It's not very accurate at all, pick up an original GB and look, Don't go by memory - Take a look, There are three notches on either side of the head, two horns and a Mohawk with a couple of notches and a triangle, RF's artistic interpretation has extra stuff here n there, missing notches here n there. I commend rendleform on his great job and commitment to his fans and I even waited until I saw his creations before I pre-ordered Beelzeboss. However RFs is not G1 and not as accurate as Beelzeboss Prototype pics, It's true I haven't got it in my hands yet but Glad it's on order ( the pricing is Terrible though!). You are entitled to your opinion and that's what makes this life interesting but in no way shape or form could you ever convince me RF's is "very accurate".
Posted by Astronopolis on October 11th, 2011 @ 8:50pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 11th, 2011 @ 9:52pm CDT
Posted by Cybertronian on October 11th, 2011 @ 10:05pm CDT
[Snarl: Like! LIKE! Like whole bunch!]
Posted by Flux Convoy on October 12th, 2011 @ 6:42am CDT
Posted by El Duque on October 12th, 2011 @ 9:10am CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:Sweet, glad there's ETA on this. Especially considering these were offered before the Renderform/Venksta kits. I think his looks fine but I much prefer the clean look of this.
Agreed, I love RF's stuff (and have one of his sets pre-ordered as well), but I think Beelzeboss wins this one.
Posted by Prime Evil on October 12th, 2011 @ 9:53am CDT
But the Beelzeboss head dose look very nice. I probably would have ordered one if RF didn't have his up first.
Posted by Flux Convoy on October 13th, 2011 @ 12:13am CDT
Prime Evil wrote:Renderform for me because I likey the two oversized guns he comes with.
But the Beelzeboss head dose look very nice. I probably would have ordered one if RF didn't have his up first.
He didn't. The Renderform kit went up October 3rd. The Beelzeboss kit? Around July 12th or so. I know it couldn't have been more than 3 days after it was offered that I placed my order.
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 13th, 2011 @ 10:51pm CDT
He didn't. The Renderform kit went up October 3rd.
I don't believe thats accurate. I'll have to go to Renderforms website to get the exact dates down and all, but I ordered my RF-006 (goldbug) kit in Sept during the initial pre-order long before Oct. 3. He opended the orders back up for a couple of days a few weeks later, that might have been around the 3rd, again I would have to check the site log to get specifics but I know it was early Sept when I ordered mine because it took almost a month for Venksta to send my order confirmation email etc. I waited for that e-mail for weeks, so thats why I'm adamant about this (not that anybody really gives a sh*%) LOL.
And as for this debate on which mock-up came first I go back to what I said above...Preorders for Beezle may have been in July but RenderForm was the first to actually show pictures of the finished prototype for customer viewing and Beezlboss has yet to do that to my knowledge so for all intents and purposes I disagree, I think Renderform has been on top of this one as far as generating customer interest. Especially considering that he's a one-man-band and came up with the actual pictures for the guns AND additional color schemes on top of designs also for Bumper and Hubcap. True "Beezle" may have been thought up first and pre-ordered first but I'm still waiting for my Siebertron .com update any day now with actual pictures of a Beezle head on a gold "United BumbleBee"...and have yet to see it other than computer generated mock-ups. And I agree with the member above who mentioned liking the RF kits b/c of the NEO nature of the mini-coop alt mode rather than the classic VW. Thats a good point. I think the Beezle design will sell just fine, the ordering procedure will no doubt be more user-friendly than Renderform. Venksta needs to start getting his products to TFsource instead of trying to be all exclusive (but as long as his designs are still kick ass I'll jump through his hoops...for now).
Posted by alexison on October 14th, 2011 @ 12:42am CDT
The Beezleboss head looks good on paper but that's not good enough for me. I didn't like the look of their CJ head at all.
Posted by gema on October 14th, 2011 @ 4:34am CDT
need to find another mold for the body
Posted by Prime Evil on October 14th, 2011 @ 8:01am CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:Prime Evil wrote:Renderform for me because I likey the two oversized guns he comes with.
But the Beelzeboss head dose look very nice. I probably would have ordered one if RF didn't have his up first.
He didn't. The Renderform kit went up October 3rd. The Beelzeboss kit? Around July 12th or so. I know it couldn't have been more than 3 days after it was offered that I placed my order.
Doh! What I meant was I didn't place my order until I saw an actual proto pic, not mock up. So Renderform had pics of the actual head up first. I still want to see the actual head (Growing Pains) on a BB figure. That was pretty much what sold me on Venksta's stuff. Well, and the fact that I actually have the Darkwing head and just really impressed with that. But as for G1 accuracy, I think Beezleboss's head is the more accurate of the two for sure. But hey, it's all good for both parties and prices are almost the same so I think both parties can come away with success in this case.
Posted by Prime Evil on October 14th, 2011 @ 8:07am CDT
amcgrath929 wrote:Renderform for me. Can't wait for his Bumper
Same here!! I got my United BB and RTS BB this past Tues and are awaiting their new heads...well, Classics BB will be my Bumper and RTS will be good ole "B".
Posted by Flux Convoy on October 14th, 2011 @ 5:04pm CDT
Prime Evil wrote:amcgrath929 wrote:Renderform for me. Can't wait for his Bumper
Same here!! I got my United BB and RTS BB this past Tues and are awaiting their new heads...well, Classics BB will be my Bumper and RTS will be good ole "B".
I'm using United as Goldbug, RTS as Hubcap and the first Classics BB as Bumper. I have Henkei Bumblebee who'll stay as is. Which means I need to track down ANOTHER freaking Classics BB. Sheesh, the mania for these homages to little known characters baffles me. I'm caught up in it too, just saying. Oh, and I went ahead and ordered the Beelzeboss kit after being pretty impressed with his previous kit. They're good quality items. I'd like to support both but I went this route this time. The Renderform head just looked too "busy" to me.
Posted by alexison on October 15th, 2011 @ 12:14am CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:Prime Evil wrote:amcgrath929 wrote:Renderform for me. Can't wait for his Bumper
Same here!! I got my United BB and RTS BB this past Tues and are awaiting their new heads...well, Classics BB will be my Bumper and RTS will be good ole "B".
I'm using United as Goldbug, RTS as Hubcap and the first Classics BB as Bumper. I have Henkei Bumblebee who'll stay as is. Which means I need to track down ANOTHER freaking Classics BB. Sheesh, the mania for these homages to little known characters baffles me. I'm caught up in it too, just saying. Oh, and I went ahead and ordered the Beelzeboss kit after being pretty impressed with his previous kit. They're good quality items. I'd like to support both but I went this route this time. The Renderform head just looked too "busy" to me.
I've got the United Bee for Goldbug(Blue version), Original Classics Bee for Bumper, and the RTS Bee for Hubcap. I'll use the Legacy version as my regular Bumblebee.
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 15th, 2011 @ 1:05am CDT
I'm trying to figure out why such an angry reply, anyway... Compare the two dude
Whoops, before I forget I wanna publicly apologize to Quantum if my comment came across as angry, after re-reading it myself I can see how it could have easily been taken the wrong way than how I originally intended. There are alot of good natured people on this Message Board and I appreciate everyones input. This has become a nice place to unwind after work. But no doubt, I get a little adamant sometime, sorry.
Anyway, to sum up my point regarding this thread, I've just been going through 3rd party fatigue lately, and all of these new companies (and older ones) are now tackling similar projects and it feels like it's enough to drive a sane person right to the edge between having to choose. I mean yeah I have expendable income but even I am begining to feel manipulated as all these new mom&pop garage knock-offs fight for my $$$ as well as Hasbro/Takara.
Going back to what I was saying above, I have no doubt that the Beezleboss version will be successful, I just don't like the way it looks so far. To me the RD/Venksta version looks like a Has/Tak production.
In other words: Like it or not, the generations line is an updated version of our favorite classics, and the Venksta Goldbug looks like a solid spot-on update of a classic character. When I look at that head sculpt I see Goldbug and he seems to be portrayed alot tougher than I recall from childhood. And yes I went back and reviewed my Marvel Comics and re-watched that god-awful Return of Optimus Prime episode to get a good look at Goldbugs presentation in both and I have to agree that this computer render from Beezle does look more like the Goldbug from then...but that Goldbug was a pansy "OK Optimus, whats the plan?" no doubt with a sh*& eating grin under that mouth plate
It's now 2011 and we've replaced the loveable classic VW beetle with several other small platform cars and the Renderform sculp just looks better suited for that updated "NEO" Mini-coop persona. So to me, when I look at the Venksta sculpt it says GOLDBUG and is very accurate, I wasn't trying to convince anyone that the Beazleboss version wasn't accurate. It just seemed like overkill at this point. The one thing I've taken from all of this is that both of these versions will no doubt go gangbusters and sell out with plenty of happy customers on both sides.
And not that anybody cares but my headsculpt to car dispersal is the following:
-Blue Renderform Goldbug= Gold United Bumblebee
-Black Renderform Goldbug= "Legacy Bumblebee" 25th Anniv WalMart
-Renderform Hubcap= Reveal the Sheild (orange) BumbleBee
-Renderform Bumper=2005 Classics Bumbleebee (original release)
-and Beazleboss Red devil= Cliffjumper for the full effect
(but he may get replaced by the upcoming Renderform version, time will tell)
*Damn, that felt like a math equation.....
Posted by Flux Convoy on October 15th, 2011 @ 2:37am CDT
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