Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons

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Thanks to a new review, we have our best look yet at the upcoming Studio Series leader Optimus Primal. The review shows that the transformation is very involved for every limb, something which has not been the case with any Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal toy. This gives us a good look at the scale of the figure compared to Optimus Prime. You'll let us know if it works well enough for you. With the Studio Series line, the focus was always on robot mode scale rather than alt mode scale but with the beast wars characters being more prominent in their beast forms in the film, that may yield conflicting results for some.

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Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166833)
Posted by morganprime on August 14th, 2023 @ 11:57am CDT

Wow. Way smaller than I thought definitely not leader class size same as the Prime voyager. I may cancel my preorder til I see in person.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166835)
Posted by CobraKai on August 14th, 2023 @ 12:51pm CDT

Definitely one of those “accessories make it ‘Leader Class’” toys. He looks great and I do want those accessories for Prime and Battle Trap

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166845)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2023 @ 2:47pm CDT

People didn't seem to mind paying voyager price for voyager primal, and this primal looks like a leader compared to that one.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166846)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2023 @ 2:51pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:People didn't seem to mind paying voyager price for voyager primal, and this primal looks like a leader compared to that one.

And Voyager Primal is smaller than the average Voyager.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166847)
Posted by cloudballoon on August 14th, 2023 @ 2:52pm CDT

It's interesting how the lower body's transformation scheme for the mainline is much better (better legs & gorilla back "curvature" that fans are nuts about) than SS. I wonder if these toy designers ever compare notes. Imagine if the mainline & SS (or include the Japanese too, since they should all be TakaraTomy?) designers saw each other's transformation sketches and thought..."hmm.... better switch between the Voyager & Leader. No one will mind the exposed feet at the calves for Voyager, and using the "hide-the-feet-inside the-legs transformation make the Leader PERFECT and thus justify a much higher price with a slightly bigger toy! Win-win I say!"

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166850)
Posted by william-james88 on August 14th, 2023 @ 5:28pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:People didn't seem to mind paying voyager price for voyager primal, and this primal looks like a leader compared to that one.

And Voyager Primal is smaller than the average Voyager.

I did not say otherwise. I said people didn't seem to mind his size for a voyager.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166851)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2023 @ 7:47pm CDT

That's why I said "And". I was adding to your point.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166855)
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2023 @ 12:33am CDT

While many fans have had Studio Series 86 leader class Snarl for a while, he has only popped up at US retail recently. We have had a few reports of him found at Gamestop and he appears to be in solid cases (then again, that might just be a Gamestop thing). Speaking of Studio Series, we also have word that the latest deluxes have been found in the US, but this time at Walmart. The new deluxes are SS 86 Brawn and Cliffjumper from the video game series (based on the previously released Bumblebee). We also got word that these deluxes are appearing in Singapore at collectible stores such as the one found in the international airport.

We thank all the fans who submitted their sightings. Below are video reviews of these toys if you want to know as much as possible about them before buying them.
Some of these latest releases are also in stock at Seibertron's store.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166881)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on August 15th, 2023 @ 2:15pm CDT

GS is where I got my snarl a few weeks ago.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166882)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 15th, 2023 @ 2:18pm CDT

pew pew

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166892)
Posted by william-james88 on August 15th, 2023 @ 3:53pm CDT

Razorbeast88 wrote:

Primal review is up! Loving both modes and weapons, especially that Gorilla face!!!
Legs kinda suck, paintjob could've been better

Just wanted to say thank you, you got a news credit

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166895)
Posted by Overcracker on August 15th, 2023 @ 4:54pm CDT

Leader Primal looks really nice. A bit short sure, really well done.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166900)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 15th, 2023 @ 6:27pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:

Primal review is up! Loving both modes and weapons, especially that Gorilla face!!!
Legs kinda suck, paintjob could've been better

Just wanted to say thank you, you got a news credit

Awesome, thanks! I appreciate the credit!! :-D

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166988)
Posted by juliusskinner on August 18th, 2023 @ 12:36am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:pew pew

This bumblebee is soo cool,

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2166999)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2023 @ 7:11am CDT

I really do think Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167006)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 18th, 2023 @ 7:32am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really do think (ROTB Leader) Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Not for me though. The transformation is fiddly, there's that weak point to be aware of, and he feels too hollow and flimsy to be worth full leader price. So far, no SS figures have blown me away. That also include SS86 and SSG. Maybe Leader ROTB Optimus Primal will be it? That remains to be seen.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167009)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2023 @ 8:00am CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really do think (ROTB Leader) Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Not for me though. The transformation is fiddly, there's that weak point to be aware of, and he feels too hollow and flimsy to be worth full leader price. So far, no SS figures have blown me away. That also include SS86 and SSG. Maybe Leader ROTB Optimus Primal will be it? That remains to be seen.

Why is that "RotB leader" even necessary. There is no other Scourge in SS this year.

And he feels good, I love posing him around and messing with him. He's a helluva lot better than SS86 Snarl I can tell you that, and he is much more fun than Armada Megs sadly. It's kinda him and Legacy Skyquake for best leader of the year.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167010)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 18th, 2023 @ 8:03am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Why is that "RotB leader" even necessary. There is no other Scourge in SS this year.

I removed the picture and often, it's hard to keep track of everything that comes out in a year.
There's also the newcomers that we have to keep in mind.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167014)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 18th, 2023 @ 10:17am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really do think Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Nice! That new head sculpt looks great on him!

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167015)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2023 @ 10:48am CDT

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really do think Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Nice! That new head sculpt looks great on him!

It REALLY helps complete his look!

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167019)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 18th, 2023 @ 10:57am CDT

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really do think Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Nice! That new head sculpt looks great on him!

It REALLY helps complete his look!

"New head sculp"?
Am I missing something?

Or is that a 3P upgrade?

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167020)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 18th, 2023 @ 11:03am CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I really do think Scourge may be my favorite SS figure of the year so far

Nice! That new head sculpt looks great on him!

It REALLY helps complete his look!

"New head sculp"?
Am I missing something?

Or is that a 3P upgrade?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I also got an upgraded head for Scourge to make him movie accurate. I like how it turned out a lot.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167021)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 18th, 2023 @ 11:05am CDT

Ohhhh nice!

I'll be looking for it. Much more movie accurate this way.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167022)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 18th, 2023 @ 11:11am CDT

SS-102 ROTB Optimus is back in stock at Pulse:
https://hasbropulse.com/collections/bac ... us-prime-1

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167063)
Posted by Munkky on August 19th, 2023 @ 1:48am CDT

More 2024 Studio Series listings have dropped, courtesy of JtPrime17:

Tra Gen Studio Series Core 86 Steeljaw
Product Number: F8752

Tra Gen Studio Series Core MV6 Frenzy
Product Number: F8753

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe MV7 Wheeljack
Product Number: F7233

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe 86 Gnaw PR
Product Number: F0786 (same as original release)

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe WFC Decepticon Infantry
Product Number: F8763

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe Next Gen Bumblebee
Product Number: F8764

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe HM Megatron
Product Number: F9849

Tra Gen Studio Series Voyager MV6 Skywarp
Product Number: F8769

Tra Gen Studio series Voyager WFC Ratchet
Product Number: F8770

Tra Gen A Level AST MV8 OP
Product Number: G0221

Tra Gen A Level AST 86 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0220

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167068)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 19th, 2023 @ 6:55am CDT

Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167076)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 7:54am CDT

Another set of leaks from Jtprime17 posted to the Seibertron Pub forums by Munkky seems to run the widest spectrum of figures yet for the line. Some of these we can only speculate on and others are likely errors (like MV6 Frenzy which is probably the 86 repaint). But there are a few references that we haven't previously seen like "Deluxe HM Megatron" (another High Moon Megatron?), "Next Gen Bumblebee", and two figures marked as "A Level AST" without price classes, one of which is "MV8 OP". Feel free to speculate away in the forums what these could possibly mean!

Munkky wrote:More 2024 Studio Series listings have dropped, courtesy of JtPrime17:

Tra Gen Studio Series Core 86 Steeljaw
Product Number: F8752

Tra Gen Studio Series Core MV6 Frenzy
Product Number: F8753

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe MV7 Wheeljack
Product Number: F7233

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe 86 Gnaw PR
Product Number: F0786 (same as original release)

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe WFC Decepticon Infantry
Product Number: F8763

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe Next Gen Bumblebee
Product Number: F8764

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe HM Megatron
Product Number: F9849

Tra Gen Studio Series Voyager MV6 Skywarp
Product Number: F8769

Tra Gen Studio series Voyager WFC Ratchet
Product Number: F8770

Tra Gen A Level AST MV8 OP
Product Number: G0221

Tra Gen A Level AST 86 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0220

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167078)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 8:08am CDT

Wouldn't surprise me if next gen Bumblebee is from the Energon Universe comics.

Finally doing MV6 Skywarp, so much for a bunch of the jets being exclusives (thankfully not).

Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje

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Posted by Rtron on August 19th, 2023 @ 8:13am CDT

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.

Seriously, what the fuck is up with that? Only a core class this year? I got my hopes up when I read "Frenzy", but it's probably just a repack of the 86 guy.

List of missing on-screen bots:
-Frenzy
-Dispensor
-Autobot Protoform
-Decepticon Protoform
-Demolishor
-Scalpel
-Que/Wheeljack
-Hatchet, we've seen renders but he still hasn't shown up
-Devcon
-Sand themed Brawl
-Bumblebee (AOE old camaro)
-Bumblebee (2014 camaro, this absence is particularly puzzling because it'd just be Stinger with a new head, you'd think they would have made it ages ago)
-Drift (car)
-Hound
-Scorn
-Slug
-Strafe
-Junkheap
-Daytrader
-Lieutenant
-Bulldog
-Infernocus
-Onslaught
-Dragonstorm

And these are just the ones I could easily remember, plus I left out anyone who already had proper toys done in The Last Knight.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167082)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 19th, 2023 @ 8:54am CDT

Weirdly most excited for Filch, I guess because it's so unexpected. Probably just a redeco of Airazor, but that's fine for me. Plenty of others that I'm excited for, but I was expecting most of those.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167083)
Posted by sol magnus on August 19th, 2023 @ 9:16am CDT

AcademyofDrX wrote:Weirdly most excited for Filch, I guess because it's so unexpected. Probably just a redeco of Airazor, but that's fine for me. Plenty of others that I'm excited for, but I was expecting most of those.

I'm excited for Filch, Lockdown and Thundertron - who I suspect will be a retool of Tigerhawk. Its the only leader-class even in the ballpark. I should note this is the wrong thread, though.

For SS86, it's nice to get Steeljaw for sure! Bumblebee...best guess is the existing Netflix one with painted windows (which would be welcome).

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167084)
Posted by o.supreme on August 19th, 2023 @ 9:17am CDT

I'm guessing MV8 Op is from the animated film coming out next year

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167087)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 10:43am CDT

Rtron wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.

List of missing on-screen bots:
-Frenzy

Have they done any Frenzy's yet? I assume he wouldn't be a multiformer and they would likely release the boombox and coffee machine as separate bots?

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167090)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 10:46am CDT

Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje

Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

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Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:10am CDT

Worth noting that according to JTPrime, the 86 Steeljaw has overwritten/replaced the previously leaked AoE Steeljaw.

Considering that clarification has been made but none of the MV6/Bee movie characters that weren't actually in the movie have been changed, I have to assume that actually means they all are Bee movie versions? Who knows at this rate.

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Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:19am CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Have they done any Frenzy's yet? I assume he wouldn't be a multiformer and they would likely release the boombox and coffee machine as separate bots?

An 07 Frenzy in Studio Series scale would be a microfigure along the lines of Ravage/Igor/Scorponok which we've seen packed in with other figures, but core class would be cool to get as well since it doesn't necessarily need to scale. I imagine they would go with the Boombox alt mode, since that was his more prominent alt mode compared to the cell phone.

The only transforming Frenzy we've had before (excluding Human Alliance, which just folds up) is actually the 07 Fast Action Battler, which used the boombox alt mode. It's kind of a neat looking figure!

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167097)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:19am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

Yeah, but it also specifically says 86 and people have been literally begging Hasbro to either make a new Deluxe G1 Bumblebee or get the Netflix back out there. Doing something else that doesn't scale with the rest of SS86 would probably not go over well. I'm guessing A Level is some sort of "ultimate" version of characters at a new price point.

Emerje

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Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:22am CDT

Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

Yeah, but it also specifically says 86 and people have been literally begging Hasbro to either make a new Deluxe G1 Bumblebee or get the Netflix back out there. Doing something else that doesn't scale with the rest of SS86 would probably not go over well. I'm guessing A Level is some sort of "ultimate" version of characters at a new price point.

Emerje

Although, now that I look at the listings again, "A Level" is written where the line's name would be, suggesting it's the start of... a new separate line of its own?

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167101)
Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:27am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Looks like they're trying to do a G1 Bumblebee yet again for SS86.

Emerje
Perhaps, but it's also listed under something called "A Level" assortment, rather than any traditional size class.

Yeah, but it also specifically says 86 and people have been literally begging Hasbro to either make a new Deluxe G1 Bumblebee or get the Netflix back out there. Doing something else that doesn't scale with the rest of SS86 would probably not go over well. I'm guessing A Level is some sort of "ultimate" version of characters at a new price point.

Emerje
Although, now that I look at the listings again, "A Level" is written where the line's name would be, suggesting it's the start of... a new separate line of its own?

Yeah, the numbers don't work either. Just noticed they're listed as G0200 like the Star Seeker capsule so they might be another exclusive SS line like Buzzworthy Bumblebee. A as in Amazon?

Emerje

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167102)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:27am CDT

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Have they done any Frenzy's yet? I assume he wouldn't be a multiformer and they would likely release the boombox and coffee machine as separate bots?

An 07 Frenzy in Studio Series scale would be a microfigure along the lines of Ravage/Igor/Scorponok which we've seen packed in with other figures, but core class would be cool to get as well since it doesn't necessarily need to scale. I imagine they would go with the Boombox alt mode, since that was his more prominent alt mode compared to the cell phone.

The only transforming Frenzy we've had before (excluding Human Alliance, which just folds up) is actually the 07 Fast Action Battler, which used the boombox alt mode. It's kind of a neat looking figure!

It's been so long since I watched '07. I forgot Frenzy transforms into a phone as well. Seeing as HasTak do love their mold reuses, in theory they could do three separate Frenzy figures?

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167103)
Posted by Munkky on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:32am CDT

Rtron wrote:
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Man, that. . . really, really sucks. 10th anniversary of AOE and all we get is a single core class for the entire year and it’s not even that movie. We have so many Bayverse characters left to do and they’ve just abandoned it.

Seriously, what the **** is up with that? Only a core class this year? I got my hopes up when I read "Frenzy", but it's probably just a repack of the 86 guy.

List of missing on-screen bots:
-Frenzy
-Dispensor
-Autobot Protoform
-Decepticon Protoform
-Demolishor
-Scalpel
-Que/Wheeljack
-Hatchet, we've seen renders but he still hasn't shown up
-Devcon
-Sand themed Brawl
-Bumblebee (AOE old camaro)
-Bumblebee (2014 camaro, this absence is particularly puzzling because it'd just be Stinger with a new head, you'd think they would have made it ages ago)
-Drift (car)
-Hound
-Scorn
-Slug
-Strafe
-Junkheap
-Daytrader
-Lieutenant
-Bulldog
-Infernocus
-Onslaught
-Dragonstorm

And these are just the ones I could easily remember, plus I left out anyone who already had proper toys done in The Last Knight.

It definitely sucks that Bayverse has been almost completely phased out from Studio Series when there's still so much more that can be done with it, I would love a Voyager class Onslaught. This brand team must not like doing Bayverse characters all that often. At least Buzzworthy Bumblebee has been coming through with re-issues of older, popular Studio Series toys. It would be great if they re-released Ironhide, maybe adding his Dark of the Moon weaponry, and perhaps do the Wreckers together as a three-pack, Buzzworthy would be a fine place for those.

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Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:34am CDT

As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.

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Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:40am CDT

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.

The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.

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Posted by Emerje on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:43am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:As someone following the Beast Wars MP line, I feel for the fans of the SS Bayformers line. They never seem to have the attitude of following a line through to completion at HasTak. It's quite frustrating.
The Beast Wars MPs may have continued if Hasbro hadn't listened to the fans' criticism of Hasbro ignoring the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars back in 2016, and hadn't made the Kingdom line to co-celebrate both the 15th anniversary of TFTM and the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars.

'Course, no beasts in Kingdom also would have meant no beasts in Rise of the Beasts, and no Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again toys or rebroadcasted cartoon.

In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.

Have we already forgotten Takara Tomy teased MP Rhinox earlier this year?

Emerje

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167110)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 19th, 2023 @ 11:43am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:In other words, the Beast Wars MPs seemed to have relied on Hasbro maintaining a refusal to celebrate Beast Wars.

Indeed. As paradoxical as that all sounds :lol:

Still there is a silver lining to my cloud. With rumours of MP Rhinox being sighted in Japan. The future for SS Bayformers though? That's a little more murky.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167118)
Posted by Overcracker on August 19th, 2023 @ 12:42pm CDT

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe WFC Decepticon Infantry
Product Number: F8763

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe Next Gen Bumblebee
Product Number: F8764

Tra Gen Studio Series Deluxe HM Megatron
Product Number: F9849

Tra Gen A Level AST MV8 OP
Product Number: G0221

Tra Gen A Level AST 86 Bumblebee
Product Number: G0220

So,Decepticon infantry? This guy?

IMG_0629.jpeg

What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167126)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 2:05pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?

We don't know yet.

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Posted by Overcracker on August 19th, 2023 @ 2:38pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
We don't know yet.

Mysterious.

Specially because A Level AST is applied to the probable next movie Prime, and an 86 Bumblebee. :-?

The game’s afoot.

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167129)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 19th, 2023 @ 3:26pm CDT

Overcracker wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Overcracker wrote:What is Next Gen?

HM Megatron?

What does ‘A Level AST’ mean?
We don't know yet.

Mysterious.

Specially because A Level AST is applied to the probable next movie Prime, and an 86 Bumblebee.
The game’s afoot.

At the very least, "AST" usually means "assortment".

Re: Best Look at Upcoming Studio Series Leader Optimus Primal with Comparisons (2167134)
Posted by M. Spector on August 19th, 2023 @ 4:40pm CDT

So is that .. Studio Series Movie 8 Optimus Prime? how curious. I feel like a lot of these mightve gotten the big translation garble effect and we'll have to wait and see

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