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Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now!

Transformers News: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now!

Friday, September 10th, 2010 11:32PM CDT

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If your favorite hero looks into a mirror and sees a dark reflection of himself, you're either reading some bad fanfaction, or that hero happens to be Optimus Prime. Throughout the 25 year history of Transformers, Black Optimus Prime repaints have been a staple in almost every Transformers toy line. Now thanks to Third Party specialist venksta and our friends from the company Mastermind Creations, we're about to get another figure that's joining the ranks of Black Optimus Primes. However, there's a little twist this time, as we get to vote on what character the figure is! Will he be Nemesis Knight Morpher Commander, Black Convoy Knight Morpher Commander, or Stealth Ops Knight Morpher Commander? The decision on the figure's character is in your hands, so vote now!

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Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123576)
Posted by Blurrz on September 10th, 2010 @ 11:37pm CDT
Thanks Venksta. I voted for a Nemesis.. haven't had one since SDCC I believe, while the rest of the Black Optimus Repaints have been MP Black Convoy, MP Dead Prime, the 2007 Movie Nighwatch Primes and the Japanese ROTF DVD Exclusive Black Optimus Prime.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123577)
Posted by El Duque on September 10th, 2010 @ 11:39pm CDT
I have the original and really like him, but would have no use for a black repaint. I can understand them wanting to get some more use out of that mold though. Hopefully they make enough profit to finance some more original molds.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123591)
Posted by zodconvoy on September 11th, 2010 @ 12:36am CDT
Nemesis all the way.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123592)
Posted by Autobot032 on September 11th, 2010 @ 12:36am CDT
Meh. I didn't care for the original version of the mold, I hear the quality isn't quite the best (for the price, that is), and it's rather small.

As the UK folks would say, it's shite.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123595)
Posted by Blurrz on September 11th, 2010 @ 12:46am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Meh. I didn't care for the original version of the mold, I hear the quality isn't quite the best (for the price, that is), and it's rather small.

As the UK folks would say, it's shite.


"If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all"? It's about conveying an idea into plastic form, and MMC did it well. Not a single third party has the budget like FansProject does, MMC took their time with this, using the cash they had - nothing was rushed and they brought out the best product that they could make. Expect more from them in 2011, but since you're giving a biased opinion on a third party figure you don't even own, well it probably doesn't matter. Whatever.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123596)
Posted by Autobot032 on September 11th, 2010 @ 12:56am CDT
Blurrz wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Meh. I didn't care for the original version of the mold, I hear the quality isn't quite the best (for the price, that is), and it's rather small.

As the UK folks would say, it's shite.


"If you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all"? It's about conveying an idea into plastic form, and MMC did it well. Not a single third party has the budget like FansProject does, MMC took their time with this, using the cash they had - nothing was rushed and they brought out the best product that they could make. Expect more from them in 2011, but since you're giving a biased opinion on a third party figure you don't even own, well it probably doesn't matter. Whatever.


EDIT @ 2:55 AM: Nevermind. Not worth it.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123605)
Posted by Flashwave on September 11th, 2010 @ 2:15am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Meh. I didn't care for the original version of the mold, I hear the quality isn't quite the best (for the price, that is), and it's rather small.

As the UK folks would say, it's shite.


Um, he's not small really. The alt is on par with the Yoyager Classics and Movie Primes, the robot as well, and he's the first of his height class to get a trailer. With some tweaking, he looks like he could be Oscale train, maybe HO. I'd love to get him if I had income, the red one I mean.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123612)
Posted by Onslaught22 on September 11th, 2010 @ 2:30am CDT
I vote Nemesis all the way. MMC just needs to remember the teal highlights and red light piping and I will be happy..... and they will have my money :grin:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123630)
Posted by City Commander on September 11th, 2010 @ 4:38am CDT
Am I the only one that looks at the bot mode and thinks "The Fallen"?


Seriously, give the Nemesis thing a rest. Repaint him as The Fallen.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123631)
Posted by griftimus prime on September 11th, 2010 @ 4:39am CDT
nemesis repaints are fail
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123632)
Posted by outsider on September 11th, 2010 @ 4:57am CDT
Nemesis got my vote, been waiting along time for this one.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123634)
Posted by Mkall on September 11th, 2010 @ 5:18am CDT
I have the Red version and enjoy it as a display piece, but I do not need the Black version.

I'm abstaining from the vote.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123639)
Posted by Starscream6 on September 11th, 2010 @ 6:02am CDT
I love my KMC! bring on the Nemesis Prime! If it is too soon for a new mold into HOS megatron or shockwave, I will gladly pose him facing off w/ his evil clone. hell, paint him purple and orange and call him FAKER Prime!! :lol:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123659)
Posted by Rated X on September 11th, 2010 @ 7:17am CDT
Black Optimus Prime....The biggest sales gimmick the collector world has ever seen.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123669)
Posted by dragons on September 11th, 2010 @ 8:12am CDT
sorry guys if you released red & black at same time i would have debate which version i would want but black version seperate release date from red one i dont need another i like figure very much rare of its kind hope you make others from other gijoe transfromer crossovers.

vote evil
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123670)
Posted by Blozor on September 11th, 2010 @ 8:19am CDT
Stealth Ops. I never did like the Nemesis idea, and it's been done to death.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123673)
Posted by kenm2474 on September 11th, 2010 @ 8:41am CDT
Defiantly a Nemesis Version should be next. ut this has been out for a while now. Has this company thought about continuing t his line with other Hearts of Steel Bots? Like Megatron and Screamer maybe Bee but defiantly Megatron.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123683)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 11th, 2010 @ 9:20am CDT
Nemesis Knight Morpher. All the way on there. Personally, I think we need a bit more Nemesis Prime within the ranks, considering we have... maybe 2-5, maybe? I forgot how many there were, so..... you figure it out. :lol:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123684)
Posted by Talous on September 11th, 2010 @ 9:22am CDT
Anyone not see this one coming? Who ever the character is, if I could afford it I'd pick one up.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123685)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 11th, 2010 @ 9:24am CDT
City Commander wrote:Am I the only one that looks at the bot mode and thinks "The Fallen"?


Seriously, give the Nemesis thing a rest. Repaint him as The Fallen.


Come to think of it, he does look somewhat like the Fallen. If they add the Fallen's name to the list, I'll vote for the Fallen, but for now, I'm sticking with Nemesis. Or maybe even Shattered Glass Prime, but I'm still with Nemesis here. :lol:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123690)
Posted by Forgotten on September 11th, 2010 @ 9:40am CDT
They can call him whatever they choose, as long as it's a black convoy/prime repaint i'm on it. (don't buy originals, just the black repaints :ic$: ) BUT the only way they'll get my cash is if they have addressed a few minor issues with the mold. If they do that, i'll buy it & if they do more HOS designs(Megatron, Shockwave, Seekers, Insecticon Train, SCOURGE!!) then i'll buy them too, since I adore the HOS steampunk-esque designs.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123692)
Posted by kirbenvost on September 11th, 2010 @ 9:57am CDT
I say Nemesis! You say Prime!

NEMESIS!
PRIME!
NEMESIS!
PRIME!

Hmm, I still haven't gotten around to picking this guy up. I wonder if BBTS will put them on sale? Maybe they are... I should go look.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123698)
Posted by Blurrz on September 11th, 2010 @ 10:11am CDT
kenm2474 wrote:Defiantly a Nemesis Version should be next. ut this has been out for a while now. Has this company thought about continuing t his line with other Hearts of Steel Bots? Like Megatron and Screamer maybe Bee but defiantly Megatron.


Well expect something more from them soon, but I can't discuss about it with you guys in public :)
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123707)
Posted by Down_Shift on September 11th, 2010 @ 11:07am CDT
I'd really like this repainted as the fallen with a nice firey grill, but if I had to choose from the list then I would say nemisis Commander
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123713)
Posted by Sky-Quake on September 11th, 2010 @ 11:42am CDT
I'm going to be the odd one out and say they should call it Onyx Prime a g1 version of Onyx Primal
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Onyx_Primal
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123726)
Posted by Andrius on September 11th, 2010 @ 12:12pm CDT
Rated X wrote:Black Optimus Prime....The biggest sales gimmick the collector world has ever seen.


Probably a bit of an overstatement...

Personally, I'm glad to see this item come out. I have the original and will probably pass on the redeco, barring some sudden influx of cash and a real need to spend it. But I'm happy that MMC will get a bit more use out of the mold; it was a quality product and a beautiful design, despite a few quibbles. I'm glad to own it. If the occasional repaint will help fund future products of this quality or better, I'm all for it.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123731)
Posted by Flux Convoy on September 11th, 2010 @ 12:22pm CDT
I like the original enough. I am concerned with how the shoulders clicked in. I know others had problems with breakage there. The arms transformation was a bit of a pain too. Not real sure I'd get this and I do collect black Prime figures. For what it was and being a smaller third party effort, it was quality. Just not sure I would need this too. If funds allow, I'd like to support this so that maybe they could do a bit better with the next offering. Curious to see what's on tap.
:BOT:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123764)
Posted by Flashwave on September 11th, 2010 @ 2:11pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:
kenm2474 wrote:Defiantly a Nemesis Version should be next. ut this has been out for a while now. Has this company thought about continuing t his line with other Hearts of Steel Bots? Like Megatron and Screamer maybe Bee but defiantly Megatron.


Well expect something more from them soon, but I can't discuss about it with you guys in public :)


Does it involve Rollar turning into a handcar?

Also, You guys forgot to add Shockwave to that list. Shockwave, Megs, Screamer, The Autobot Traincars Bee. That Order.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123769)
Posted by alldarker on September 11th, 2010 @ 2:26pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Also, You guys forgot to add Shockwave to that list. Shockwave, Megs, Screamer, The Autobot Traincars Bee. That Order.

And the Bombshell / Shrapnel / Kickback combining train... I would love to see that!

Anyhow, black Knight Morpher would have to be a Nemesis KM. Sure, it's a shameless milking of a mold, but it's become a TF tradition. Perhaps a white and blue Ultra Magus Knight Morpher could also be considered, though :grin:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123779)
Posted by LiKwid on September 11th, 2010 @ 3:31pm CDT
I picked up the red version on BBTS for $35 bucks loose and complete and I was surprised on how cool it was..Some of the joints were a tad stiff and the shoulder joints were just odd but the detail and the paint apps looked great..I vote nemesis because..well.. why not :P
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123807)
Posted by RiddlerJ on September 11th, 2010 @ 5:33pm CDT
C'mon, this mold has to be used for Astrotrain next.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123813)
Posted by Tigertrack on September 11th, 2010 @ 6:13pm CDT
I liked the original, but not sure I would buy this repaint. Depends on price, I suppose, and how the final looks...
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123821)
Posted by Jayson26 on September 11th, 2010 @ 6:29pm CDT
I have this figure and there were only 3 issues I had. stiffness made it feel fragile in areas, the panels by his heels stick out and his visor falls off easily. otherwise its a interesting figure but I wont see any purpose in getting a second one. If I were to vote... Id say switch from nemesis to the fallen
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123825)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on September 11th, 2010 @ 6:34pm CDT
Jayson26 wrote:I have this figure and there were only 3 issues I had. stiffness made it feel fragile in areas, the panels by his heels stick out and his visor falls off easily. otherwise its a interesting figure but I wont see any purpose in getting a second one. If I were to vote... Id say switch from nemesis to the fallen


They do have a fix for the visor here http://mastermindcreation.blogspot.com/. It's simple but I haven't tried it. That takes care of one issue.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123826)
Posted by Jayson26 on September 11th, 2010 @ 6:36pm CDT
you know nemesis prime repaints are a expected thing now... if this were hasbro material.. wed have a store/convention exclusive limited repaint for sure
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123877)
Posted by Nemesis Maximus on September 11th, 2010 @ 9:17pm CDT
I think Nemesis Knight Morpher Commander is fine. If they repaint him again they could make Ultra Magnus with a different mold for the back that could become armor. They can also make a Shattered Glass Knight Morpher. Also with a little retooling they can also make Astrotrain.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123919)
Posted by Decepticlone117 on September 12th, 2010 @ 1:48am CDT
I'm with City Commander on this one, WE WANT THE FALLEN!!!!! :grin:
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1123951)
Posted by Windsweeper on September 12th, 2010 @ 5:37am CDT
Has to be Nemesis. Stealth Prime is just the same character repainted and those are the worst kind of repaints.

I do like the idea of Onyx Prime though. I love when we get new Primes.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124006)
Posted by Prime Evil on September 12th, 2010 @ 10:06am CDT
I've been waiting forever for the eventual repaint. I was almost thinking that there was not going to be one and ready to bite the bullet and get the regular knight morpher. Phew!! Glad we finally got some kinda news about this. I don't care who it's gonna be, I just didn't want a red choo choo. This repaint, whoever he will be, will be bought on site!!

I voted Dedicated Comrade just to have something different.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124041)
Posted by craggy on September 12th, 2010 @ 12:03pm CDT
what difference is there in him being a good guy or a bad guy or the same guy gone goth?

will the paint apps be different between Nemesis and Special Ops? Will one version have any extras with it that another wouldn't? If not, people are voting for the name on the box. I don't think of a lot of the official TFs I own as the same characters whose names were put on the packaging, so I'm not sure it matters really? Still, I'd go with The Fallen as well.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124066)
Posted by Blurrz on September 12th, 2010 @ 1:19pm CDT
craggy wrote:what difference is there in him being a good guy or a bad guy or the same guy gone goth?

will the paint apps be different between Nemesis and Special Ops? Will one version have any extras with it that another wouldn't? If not, people are voting for the name on the box. I don't think of a lot of the official TFs I own as the same characters whose names were put on the packaging, so I'm not sure it matters really? Still, I'd go with The Fallen as well.


Faction symbols? Different colored eyes? We won't know the extent of the possible differences but it doesn't stop Mastermind Creations from doing this through a very creative process.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124094)
Posted by Covenant on September 12th, 2010 @ 2:47pm CDT
I'm a lover of Nemesis/Scourge repaints, so even though I'm not lucky enough to own a Hearts of Steel Prime, I vote Nemesis/Scourge all the way!

Unless of course they find a kick-ass Nebulon Prime venture on past-tense Earth story for'im. ;)
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124105)
Posted by craggy on September 12th, 2010 @ 3:14pm CDT
Blurrz wrote:
craggy wrote:what difference is there in him being a good guy or a bad guy or the same guy gone goth?

will the paint apps be different between Nemesis and Special Ops? Will one version have any extras with it that another wouldn't? If not, people are voting for the name on the box. I don't think of a lot of the official TFs I own as the same characters whose names were put on the packaging, so I'm not sure it matters really? Still, I'd go with The Fallen as well.


Faction symbols? Different colored eyes? We won't know the extent of the possible differences but it doesn't stop Mastermind Creations from doing this through a very creative process.

well, I have to assume that for legal reasons there's not going to be any faction symbols on him. Unless of course there are any on the normal one? I suppose eyes and other accents may be different, but without knowing I don't see any reason to vote. If they said "Nemesis will have teal paint apps and red eyes" "Spec Ops will have red and blue paint apps and blue eyes" and "the other one will get white and yellow paint and green eyes" (or whatever) then at least we could make an informed decision.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124397)
Posted by Counterpunch on September 13th, 2010 @ 2:38pm CDT
tigertracks 24 wrote:I liked the original, but not sure I would buy this repaint. Depends on price, I suppose, and how the final looks...


Go-bots Loco

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Loco/loco.htm

Make it happen.

Make him marry Crasher and have many many Go-bot babies.
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124560)
Posted by Mkall on September 14th, 2010 @ 1:19am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:I liked the original, but not sure I would buy this repaint. Depends on price, I suppose, and how the final looks...


Go-bots Loco

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Loco/loco.htm

Make it happen.

YES!
Re: Black Knight Morpher Commander Announced - Vote On His Character Now! (1124842)
Posted by Covenant on September 14th, 2010 @ 7:50pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:I liked the original, but not sure I would buy this repaint. Depends on price, I suppose, and how the final looks...


Go-bots Loco

http://www.tfu.info/Gobots/Renegades/Loco/loco.htm

Make it happen.

Make him marry Crasher and have many many Go-bot babies.

:BOWDOWN:

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