Botcon 2012 Comic Prequel - First 2 pages

is it me, or does the big guy look like a possible armada megatron retool?

"A little on the short side though."

Nice XD

Makes me wish I bought into exclusives. But the prices for them are rediculous. We need a REAL update for this character rather than an exclusive. Still very cool though!

I'm interested to hear Sabrblades take on this. He has a marvelous ability to track and follow the 'verses.

I'd kill for a Transtech Prowl figure.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:is it me, or does the big guy look like a possible armada megatron retool?

Could be, though I doubt them using the same mold twice in two sets

TT Rhinox could easily be made from a RTS Hailstorm

I don't know why, but these 2 pages kinda pissed me off. Maybe it's because I was already in a foul mood. Or maybe it's reminding me that instead of get something cool like a TransTech set or a second Beast Wars set we're getting more Shittered Glass crap.

Also, if that Snake Eyes in a mech suit?! WTF?!

The Transtech designs were from the line that was supposed come after Beast Machines. The one shown here for Megatron was recycled into Armada Megatron.

I just love that Rhinox's job is to watch Transformers cartoons all day.

I love how they've used actual screenshots from the shows for Rhinox's monitors. Very nice touch.

They've got me intrigued, even if the whole multi-verse concept gets a little boring for me.

Sodan-1 wrote:I love how they've used actual screenshots from the shows for Rhinox's monitors. Very nice touch.

They've got me intrigued, even if the whole multi-verse concept gets a little boring for me.

That's why I kinda like the club's Transtech storyline and SG. There's no previous fiction that they need to follow. Both of these are blank slates. I do hope that we see more of the club's Gobots story as well.

Dr. Heavy B wrote:is it me, or does the big guy look like a possible armada megatron retool?

That's TransTech Megatron, whose design was a basis for both Armada Megatron and Animated Shockwave.

GetRightRobot wrote:I'm interested to hear Sabrblades take on this. He has a marvelous ability to track and follow the 'verses.

Basically, what TransTech Rhinox is saying is that the world of the Marvel UK Annual story "Another Time & Place", which was previously documents as having been destroyed, is somehow no longer destroyed, which doesn't make a lick of sense. Something must have happened in the Classicverse during this year's "Invasion" BotCon story to render that destroyed world no longer such.

Godzillabot Primal wrote:TT Rhinox could easily be made from a RTS Hailstorm

I think he's supposed to be a redeco of Cybertron Landmine (which was redecoed into DoFP Axalon Rhinox).

zodconvoy wrote:I just love that Rhinox's job is to watch Transformers cartoons all day.

He's looking at comic images too.

I think he's supposed to be a redeco of Cybertron Landmine (which was redecoed into DoFP Axalon Rhinox).

I know that, but this is probably a alternate universes Rhinox

So being how this storyline takes place in universe Primax 207.0 Epsilon, we will see Classic vs SG. But you guys know who else is currently in that universe?

THE GO BOTS!!! So do you think it's possible we may see a 3 way showdown next year between Classics vs SG vs Go Bots?

Go-Bots vs Beast Wars vs G2 vs Shattered Glass vs Classics!

Gobots vs Transformers vs Dr. Who vs He-Man vs Star Wars vs The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs a bunch of cockroaches vs my butt!

Gobots vs Transformers vs JAYCE AND THE WHEELED WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!

Side note, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors has the best '80's cartoon theme song of all time!

I seriously had forgotten how insane all of you are.

But I'm crazier!

G1 vs Unicron Trilogy vs Go-Bots vs Shattered Glass vs Doctor Who vs Ben 10 vs Star Wars vs M.A.S.K vs He-Man vs Hero Factory vs Percy Jackson and the Olympians vs Godzilla vs Kamen Rider vs Marvel Superheros vs Star Trek vs Ghostbusters vs G.I. Joe vs Psych vs MST3K vs Generator Rex vs Ultraman. Too much?

Godzillabot Primal wrote:I seriously had forgotten how insane all of you are.

But I'm crazier!

G1 vs Unicron Trilogy vs Go-Bots vs Shattered Glass vs Doctor Who vs Ben 10 vs Star Wars vs M.A.S.K vs He-Man vs Hero Factory vs Percy Jackson and the Olympians vs Godzilla vs Kamen Rider vs Marvel Superheros vs Star Trek vs Ghostbusters vs G.I. Joe vs Psych vs MST3K vs Generator Rex vs Ultraman. Too much?

Mystery Science Theatre 3000 for the win!!

Transformers: Alternity vs "Crisis on Infinite Earths".

GetRightRobot wrote:

Godzillabot Primal wrote:I seriously had forgotten how insane all of you are.

But I'm crazier!

G1 vs Unicron Trilogy vs Go-Bots vs Shattered Glass vs Doctor Who vs Ben 10 vs Star Wars vs M.A.S.K vs He-Man vs Hero Factory vs Percy Jackson and the Olympians vs Godzilla vs Kamen Rider vs Marvel Superheros vs Star Trek vs Ghostbusters vs G.I. Joe vs Psych vs MST3K vs Generator Rex vs Ultraman. Too much?

Mystery Science Theatre 3000 for the win!!

What?! (The exclamation, not the question) I love those bots. (Admit it, you want TF repaints )

Godzillabot Primal wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:

Godzillabot Primal wrote:I seriously had forgotten how insane all of you are.

But I'm crazier!

G1 vs Unicron Trilogy vs Go-Bots vs Shattered Glass vs Doctor Who vs Ben 10 vs Star Wars vs M.A.S.K vs He-Man vs Hero Factory vs Percy Jackson and the Olympians vs Godzilla vs Kamen Rider vs Marvel Superheros vs Star Trek vs Ghostbusters vs G.I. Joe vs Psych vs MST3K vs Generator Rex vs Ultraman. Too much?

Mystery Science Theatre 3000 for the win!!

What?! (The exclamation, not the question) I love those bots. (Admit it, you want TF repaints )

Ofcourse I want repaints!!! But while we're dreaming here, I'd rather have a classics Puzzler!

GetRightRobot wrote:

Godzillabot Primal wrote:

GetRightRobot wrote:

Godzillabot Primal wrote:I seriously had forgotten how insane all of you are.

But I'm crazier!

G1 vs Unicron Trilogy vs Go-Bots vs Shattered Glass vs Doctor Who vs Ben 10 vs Star Wars vs M.A.S.K vs He-Man vs Hero Factory vs Percy Jackson and the Olympians vs Godzilla vs Kamen Rider vs Marvel Superheros vs Star Trek vs Ghostbusters vs G.I. Joe vs Psych vs MST3K vs Generator Rex vs Ultraman. Too much?

Mystery Science Theatre 3000 for the win!!

What?! (The exclamation, not the question) I love those bots. (Admit it, you want TF repaints )

Ofcourse I want repaints!!! But while we're dreaming here, I'd rather have a classics Puzzler!

I'd love to see some Gobots homages in Generations for 2012

The BotCon 2012 homepage has posted the next two pages in their Invasion Prequel comic. Check the mirrored pages out below.

Hey, look at that! Octopunch has his helmet and tentacles. Good thing someone's been hard at work making a set for people to get to upgrade Ducktopunch...

The human surviving is another proof that Gigatron is not Overlord.

zodconvoy wrote:Hey, look at that! Octopunch has his helmet and tentacles.

Because that Octopunch seen here in this comic is G1 Octopunch. He's got his G1 Pretender Shell body.

The Sea Spray redeco we're getting at BotCon is Shattered Glass Octopunch.

"Last I saw you was in Kitakyushu"

*sigh*

I hope they proofread more before publishing... unless they are trying to make it sound like Metalhawk has broken Engrish syndrome.

Black Bumblebee wrote:"Last I saw you was in Kitakyushu"

*sigh*

I hope they proofread more before publishing... unless they are trying to make it sound like Metalhawk has broken Engrish syndrome.

I don't seeing anything wrong with that.

"Last I saw you was in Kitakyushu."

Not

"Last I saw you was in Kitakyushu."

Black Bumblebee wrote:"Last I saw you was in Kitakyushu"

*sigh*

I hope they proofread more before publishing... unless they are trying to make it sound like Metalhawk has broken Engrish syndrome.

Kitakyushu is in fact a real city, located on Kyushu, Fukuoka Prefecture.
Now, can anybody tell me what okimi means?

Really guys?

Okay... grammar lesson time:

"You" whether used in a singular or plural sense is treated as a plural with verbs:

"You were" not "You was"

For example:
Was you talking to me? No... Were you talking to me? Yes.

Black Bumblebee wrote:Really guys?

Okay... grammar lesson time:

"You" whether used in a singular or plural sense is treated as a plural with verbs:

"You were" not "You was"

For example:
Was you talking to me? No... Were you talking to me? Yes.

I agree it's a bit messed up, but:

"(The) Last (time) I saw you was in Kitakyushu"

Clearer now?

Black Bumblebee wrote:Really guys?

Okay... grammar lesson time:

"You" whether used in a singular or plural sense is treated as a plural with verbs:

"You were" not "You was"

For example:
Was you talking to me? No... Were you talking to me? Yes.

No. That's not how Metalhawk is using it. Let me reword part of his line to clarify.

"The last time that I saw you was in Kitakyushu."

Or even

"The last I saw of you was in Kitakyushu."

He's not using it like how you think he's using it.

I am not quarreling with the maxim to prune all unnecessary verbiage..
I am still not a huge fan of the Shattered Glass thing, but they pulled a dirty trick to try and sell me on this theme. Samurai's? That's cheating. EVERYTHING is is badass when you mix in Samurai's! This has potential...

Well played Fun Pub. Well played.

Okay, I'll dig that. The subject here isn't the assumed "you" but the "Last [time] I saw you" as a whole phrase.

Still, if it was on a student's paper, I'd probably mark it as awkward wording

Cool that Ironworks get some love.

Micromasters forever!

That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.

Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.

It's actually really cool that they do it in the cartoon, and it adds a mystic/magical element to Transformers that has been hinted at even in G1, but not expounded on much in US fiction.

Plus, Megatron was a 20 foot tall robot who shrunk down to a pistol or rifle that a human could hold, and Soundwave did the same thing.

This harkens back to G1 comics with Pretenders where they did Transform into giant armored humans who fought giant armored monsters. It was cheesy then, and it's cheesy now, but it's fun cheese.

Could look like a lot of people in a helmet.

Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.

This isn't the Japanese cartoon continuity. This is the Marvel Comics continuity, in which the Pretenders were used in the U.S. style of giant organic-looking armor, rather than shrunken down organic beings like the Japanese cartoons portrayed them.

And as for Metalhawk here, he's become a Mega Pretender now like Thunderwing, Crossblades, and Vroom.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.

This isn't the Japanese cartoon continuity. This is the Marvel Comics continuity, in which the Pretenders were used in the U.S. style of giant organic-looking armor, rather than shrunken down organic beings like the Japanese cartoons portrayed them.

And as for Metalhawk here, he's become a Mega Pretender now like Thunderwing, Crossblades, and Vroom.

Some concepts that look really cool in a comic book dont come out as cool in the form of a plastic toy. Many transformers figures look like they could be alive if they were life sized. All animated and anime style human figures look like toys even if they were life sized. Thats what makes the robots so unique compared to other toys of the period such as He-Man, Thundercats, and Ninja Turtles.

Rated X wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:That human face on Metalhawk makes me want to puke. Ive been told in the Japanese cartoon, that the robots shrink down to human size and actually pretend to be a humans. Here we have a 20 foot tall armored Ken doll. It looks like Mitt Romney with a helmet.

This isn't the Japanese cartoon continuity. This is the Marvel Comics continuity, in which the Pretenders were used in the U.S. style of giant organic-looking armor, rather than shrunken down organic beings like the Japanese cartoons portrayed them.

And as for Metalhawk here, he's become a Mega Pretender now like Thunderwing, Crossblades, and Vroom.

Some concepts that look really cool in a comic book dont come out as cool in the form of a plastic toy. Many transformers figures look like they could be alive if they were life sized. All animated and anime style human figures look like toys even if they were life sized. Thats what makes the robots so unique compared to other toys of the period such as He-Man, Thundercats, and Ninja Turtles.

Well, from what I understand, the Pretender toys were made first, and then put into the comics (and commercials).

Plus, if ya cry foul to Metalhawk, ya gotta do the same to Octopunch and Skullgrin here too, since they too look like giant "fleshling creatures" instead of robots.

The BotCon 2012 homepage has posted the final two pages in their prologue to Transformers: Invasion comic.

HOLY SMOKING COW!!!

Sentinel Maximus (Fun Pub Beast Era/Cybertron comics)
G2 Hero Optimus Prime (I'm gonna guess the Marvel G2 comics)
RiD Optimus Prime (Universe color scheme, but he was red in the Fun Pub Cybertron comics)
TransTech Optimus Prime (Fun Pub TransTech comics)
Universe 2008 Leo Prime (first toy colors, Lio Convoy's first fictional appearance in this body)
Cybertron Deluxe Optimus Prime (Jungle Planet gorilla body, first fictional appearance of this body)

Though, seeing how this is Fun Pub, that last one could be either Cybertron Optimus Prime in his Jungle Planet gorilla body, or Optimus Primal colored like that Cybertron OP toy.

This is going to be epic!!!!!!

Sabrblade wrote:G2 Hero Optimus Prime (I'm gonna guess the Marvel G2 comics)

The G2 Hero Optimus Prime never actually appeared in the comics. He was in toy form only.

Wish I was going to Botcon now, I like where this comic is going.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:G2 Hero Optimus Prime (I'm gonna guess the Marvel G2 comics)

The G2 Hero Optimus Prime never actually appeared in the comics. He was in toy form only.

He did appear in that form, at the very end as a parting gift from the Swarm (though it was miscolored):

Panel from A Rage in Heaven, Marvel G2 issue 12

Prime let himself be consumed by them and the Creation Matrix inside him purified the Swarm. That may also be the theory of the origin of the Vok.

Sabrblade wrote:Cybertron Deluxe Optimus Prime (Jungle Planet gorilla body, first fictional appearance of this body)

Though, seeing how this is Fun Pub, that last one could be either Cybertron Optimus Prime in his Jungle Planet gorilla body, or Optimus Primal colored like that Cybertron OP toy.

Its probably primal. But then again, we DID se cybertron optimus hanging around sentinal maximus and RID prime at the end of revalations. That being said, HOLY SHIT THATS ALOT OF PRIME.

Hoo-Ray for Stranglehold, Transformers answer to Jake the Snake!

lol a primal is the height of a truck prime

griftimus prime wrote:lol a primal is the height of a truck prime

Like I said, that's either Cybertron Optimus Prime in his Jungle Planet gorilla Deluxe toy body, or Optimus Primal colored like that Cybertron Optimus Prime toy.

If it's Prime, why wouldn't he be that tall?

If it's Primal, when he was resurrected after Beast Machines in the Universe comic, his new body was Autobot-sized (as he was now an Autobot) rather than Maximal-sized.

griftimus prime wrote:lol a primal is the height of a truck prime

yeah, about the size issues