BotCon 2013 Machine Wars: Termination Box Art Revealed

With only Obsidian as the packaging art for 5 figures? Weird move.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With only Obsidian as the packaging art for 5 figures? Weird move.

I'd showcase him too.
He's the only one of the bunch that doesn't suck out loud.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:With only Obsidian as the packaging art for 5 figures? Weird move.

I agree. I would've preferred the "scene" artwork depicting the 5 characters in an action shot or moment similar to previous years. It would've been interesting to see a mock-up of the box done in a hybrid G1 Combiner giftset with Machine Wars styling.

What I don't like about this style is too much emphasis on one character when it should be about the set as a whole. Hopefully this point doesn't get lost on the comics like it has during the past 4 or 5 BotCons since the 2010 sets onward.

I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.

Hoitytoity wrote:I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.

Technically speaking, only MW Hubcap was a Machine Wars original character, the rest was a collection of returning G1 characters. Obsidian and Strika, while Beast Machines originals, had their backstory roots in pre-Beast Wars (read G1) time if we're to believe their fame in the show.

It looks good and bad, hopefully this isn't the final product because it could definitely use some or a lot of adjustments. One thing that would make it look better is some actual box art instead of just Obsidian looking silly. I do like the fact that they are showing some of the toys in the box unfortunately Obsidian steals the show again!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hoitytoity wrote:I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.

Technically speaking, only MW Hubcap was a Machine Wars original character, the rest was a collection of returning G1 characters. Obsidian and Strika, while Beast Machines originals, had their backstory roots in pre-Beast Wars (read G1) time if we're to believe their fame in the show.

What about Megaplex?

While Obsidian is probably the best figure of the set, I'd argue that Megaplex is the one they should be highlighting, as in this storyline, he's the guy leading all the carnage and throwing Cybertron into conflict.

Henry921 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Hoitytoity wrote:I get where they're going, and like it. What I don't like is the only characters/figures visible in the art aren't Machine Wars characters >____>

Beast Machine Wars all the way, apparently.

Technically speaking, only MW Hubcap was a Machine Wars original character, the rest was a collection of returning G1 characters. Obsidian and Strika, while Beast Machines originals, had their backstory roots in pre-Beast Wars (read G1) time if we're to believe their fame in the show.

What about Megaplex?

While Obsidian is probably the best figure of the set, I'd argue that Megaplex is the one they should be highlighting, as in this storyline, he's the guy leading all the carnage and throwing Cybertron into conflict.

Megaplex with a new Megatron head should've been the showcased figure.

Seibertron wrote:
Megaplex with a new Megatron head should've been the showcased figure.

If wishing made it so...

I think Obsidian's vehicle mode over Megaplex's typical jet mode is a more interesting look. Plus it has a more steam punk kind of appearence which in my opinion says Machine more than the smooth stream lined jet.

All this talk of Obsidian... I just noticed something.

It isn't visible in the stock photography, but in the box in vehicle mode, it looks like he's got faction symbols on his frame. Kinda hard to tell what... it looks almost like a G2 Decepticon sign.

Henry921 wrote:All this talk of Obsidian... I just noticed something.

It isn't visible in the stock photography, but in the box in vehicle mode, it looks like he's got faction symbols on his frame. Kinda hard to tell what... it looks almost like a G2 Decepticon sign.

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That wouldn't make sense as Obsidian and Strika are Autobots in this case, in charge of the protection of Cybertron (something that's carried to the extreme in Beast Machines).

And I did forget Megaplex, stupid me And supposedly he's a new clone made by Jhiaxus, separate from the original Megaplex (original clone? Oxymoron central right here). That would explain away his new noggin, as his G2 Go-Bot clones (the G1-named ones) looked nothing like the originals.

Oh... I bet they used his pic because he's the one you can see thru the window. It's always a bit of a puzzle to cram them into the box. Could have just ended up that layout? Who knows... Still looks pretty good, though I miss the big battle scene. I hope they do a litho.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
That wouldn't make sense as Obsidian and Strika are Autobots in this case, in charge of the protection of Cybertron (something that's carried to the extreme in Beast Machines).

And I did forget Megaplex, stupid me And supposedly he's a new clone made by Jhiaxus, separate from the original Megaplex (original clone? Oxymoron central right here). That would explain away his new noggin, as his G2 Go-Bot clones (the G1-named ones) looked nothing like the originals.

Perhaps this story will fill in that blank. Maybe Obsidian started out on the wrong side before Strika showed him the path of justice?

It may just be an unrelated sigil, but it looks like a G2 Decepticon logo to me.

Henry921 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
That wouldn't make sense as Obsidian and Strika are Autobots in this case, in charge of the protection of Cybertron (something that's carried to the extreme in Beast Machines).

Perhaps this story will fill in that blank. Maybe Obsidian started out on the wrong side before Strika showed him the path of justice?

It may just be an unrelated sigil, but it looks like a G2 Decepticon logo to me.

That's a good point. Maybe they were the greatest generals on opposite sides of the conflict, before joining up together. They could both be loyal to Cybertron before any faction loyalties, but just took different routes in order to serve Cybertron.

Could Strika and OBsidian be the warring machines of the title, seeing as they are the two figures shown and are facing each other on the boxart? Perhaps this story is about them fighting each other before teaming up to repel a greater threat?

I know, JelZe, I know the Jihaxus thing for the storyline this year. I don't need any clarification or whatever.It's just an idea.

I also really like the box design.

If you look really close, those symbols on Obsidian's tail fins are Highbrow's pretzel thingies, not G2 decepticon symbols. he even has the "P+10" tampo

SW's SilverHammer wrote:If you look really close, those symbols on Obsidian's tail fins are Highbrow's pretzel thingies, not G2 decepticon symbols. he even has the "P+10" tampo

That explains why the art on the box looks NOTHING like Obsidian's actual colors. It's presumably just a mock-up at this point?

Ah, pretzel things. Of course!

Shows what I know, I never owned the mold.

Henry921 wrote:Ah, pretzel things. Of course!

Shows what I know, I never owned the mold.

Join the club. After ROTF, I stopped getting toys based off the films. That includes HFTD and the film-themed portion of RTS.

The Official Transformers Collectors' Club has received a final sample of this year's BotCon convention Machine Wars: Termination box set. The set features Obsidian, Strika, Skywarp, Megaplex, and Hoist. Check out the image mirrored below.