BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai
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The official BotCon 2014 website has been updated with the the fifth and final figure of this year's exclusive convention box set: Fire Guts Ginrai! The figure uses the Classics Optimus Prime mold, giving it an orange deco with purple knight emblem and windows, red legs, head and fists. Check out the mirrored images below.
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Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567078)
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:08pm CDT
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:08pm CDT
fugabugly and not in the usual "so hideous it's awesome!" way. I do like the logo on the shield, but beyond that...
Heck of a mixed set.
Heck of a mixed set.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567079)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:10pm CDT
Though colored like Fire Guts, the toy is just "Ginrai", as this might be his standard coloring, rather than an attack form, in the Wings Universe.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567080)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:14pm CDT
Like Son Goku in a permanent Super Saiya-Jin form, making it a new standard form (he tried that during the Cell Games saga). Not bad, but...
Does anybody think the set has been rather predictable this year?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Though colored like Fire Guts, the toy is just "Ginrai", as this might be his standard coloring, rather than an attack form, in the Wings Universe.
Like Son Goku in a permanent Super Saiya-Jin form, making it a new standard form (he tried that during the Cell Games saga). Not bad, but...
Does anybody think the set has been rather predictable this year?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567081)
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:15pm CDT
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:15pm CDT
Gingerai
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567082)
Posted by WiseMan on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:15pm CDT
Posted by WiseMan on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:15pm CDT
I was waffling on whether to buy the Botcon set or not. This makes it not. That being said, I'll still probably try to get Scorponok.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567083)
Posted by Mkall on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:16pm CDT
This is awesome. I'm definitely getting this.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567084)
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT
I'm in the same boat. already didn't want Ferak, and Cannonball and Devcon are nice and all, but not that fantastic. Can't imagine it'll be easy enough to sell Ferak and Gingerai for a high enough price to make it worthwhile buying the set, so I'll probably pass and hope to get Scorponok for only one kidney.
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT
WiseMan wrote:I was waffling on whether to buy the Botcon set or not. This makes it not. That being said, I'll still probably try to get Scorponok.
I'm in the same boat. already didn't want Ferak, and Cannonball and Devcon are nice and all, but not that fantastic. Can't imagine it'll be easy enough to sell Ferak and Gingerai for a high enough price to make it worthwhile buying the set, so I'll probably pass and hope to get Scorponok for only one kidney.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567085)
Posted by Rated X on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by Rated X on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT
So basically this is like a wacky prime you can stick with your G2 figures ? The colors make it look like a KO.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567086)
Posted by osubreeze on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT
Posted by osubreeze on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:17pm CDT
Well the rumors continue to be founded, for the most part. They said this would be a PowerMaster....kind of....
I'm interested to see what the non-box set exclusives are. 2 out of 5 on the Box set.
I'm interested to see what the non-box set exclusives are. 2 out of 5 on the Box set.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567087)
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:18pm CDT
It's Shattered Glass St Patricks Day Prime
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:18pm CDT
Rated X wrote:So basically this is like a wacky prime you can stick with your G2 figures ? The colors make it look like a KO.
It's Shattered Glass St Patricks Day Prime
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567088)
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:24pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:24pm CDT
Can we start unfounded rumors about Nucleon Quest Convoy being a souvenir item now?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567089)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:27pm CDT
Sure, we just need to photoshop some
on Black Optimus Prime:
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:27pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Can we start unfounded rumors about Nucleon Quest Convoy being a souvenir item now?
Sure, we just need to photoshop some
on Black Optimus Prime:
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567091)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:33pm CDT
Rated X wrote:So basically this is like a wacky prime you can stick with your G2 figures ? The colors make it look like a KO.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567092)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:35pm CDT
I think this will be produced in too few numbers to justify them coming up with a trailer for it, even if it would be just a redeco. I guess it depends how well the set sells and what the 2ndary market for this figure will be like.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:35pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:I think it's awesome. If those Trailerforce guys ever wanted any of my money, this is an opportunity.
I think this will be produced in too few numbers to justify them coming up with a trailer for it, even if it would be just a redeco. I guess it depends how well the set sells and what the 2ndary market for this figure will be like.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567095)
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:37pm CDT
Even though it's Ginrai, I think Prime (the character) collectors will be all over it. I can see this being a $200 figure within a year or two, same goes for Scorponok. I don't think the rest of the set will appreciate all that much. Devcon a little, maybe.
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:37pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:ScottyP wrote:I think it's awesome. If those Trailerforce guys ever wanted any of my money, this is an opportunity.
I think this will be produced in too few numbers to justify them coming up with a trailer for it, even if it would be just a redeco. I guess it depends how well the set sells and what the 2ndary market for this figure will be like.
Even though it's Ginrai, I think Prime (the character) collectors will be all over it. I can see this being a $200 figure within a year or two, same goes for Scorponok. I don't think the rest of the set will appreciate all that much. Devcon a little, maybe.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567096)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:42pm CDT
Is that an official figure?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Is that an official figure?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567097)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:46pm CDT
Where else would the "Fire Guts" thing come from?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:46pm CDT
Yes.Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Is that an official figure?
Where else would the "Fire Guts" thing come from?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567098)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:46pm CDT
Sure is. Fire Guts God Ginrai, an e-Hobby release. In red and orange to represent his ultimate Fire Guts attack, enveloped in flames of BURNING JUSTICE.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:46pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Is that an official figure?
Sure is. Fire Guts God Ginrai, an e-Hobby release. In red and orange to represent his ultimate Fire Guts attack, enveloped in flames of BURNING JUSTICE.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567101)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:48pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:48pm CDT
Oh. Duh. Totally drew a blank on that 1. I knew of the character in Masterforce, but forgot they actually made a toy for him. He wasn't around much.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567102)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:48pm CDT
And the same with his "Final Fire Guts" attack.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:48pm CDT
"God Fire Guts".JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In red and orange to represent his ultimate Fire Guts attack
And the same with his "Final Fire Guts" attack.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567103)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:50pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:50pm CDT
But Ginrai was the lead character (once he was introduced, that is). He was always around (after his debut).Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh. Duh. Totally drew a blank on that 1. I knew of the character in Masterforce, but forgot they actually made a toy for him. He wasn't around much.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567106)
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:56pm CDT
I think he was referring to the Fire Guts toy not being around much. No idea on the actual numbers but there aren't a ton of them out there.
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 12:56pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:But Ginrai was the lead character (once he was introduced, that is). He was always around (after his debut).Rodimus Prime wrote:Oh. Duh. Totally drew a blank on that 1. I knew of the character in Masterforce, but forgot they actually made a toy for him. He wasn't around much.
I think he was referring to the Fire Guts toy not being around much. No idea on the actual numbers but there aren't a ton of them out there.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567109)
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:02pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:02pm CDT
The colors are a little gaudy, but I like the shield.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567112)
Posted by mooncake623 on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by mooncake623 on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:05pm CDT
Ahh 2 outta 5 to buy or not to buy? hmm...
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567113)
Posted by Diem on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:09pm CDT
Posted by Diem on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:09pm CDT
I am very concerned about how well this mold might be holding up. Other than that it's an interesting toy and I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle him in the fiction (I'm going to guess that the Club will NOT be portraying him as a Japanese trucker with a brown leather jacket merged with a robot body and using spiritual energy to be on fire).
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567115)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:10pm CDT
So here's what we got for the 30th Anniversary box set:
1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction
Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.
1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction
Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567116)
Posted by Seibertron on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:11pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:11pm CDT
So Scorponok looks pretty cool and it's nice to be getting Devcon ...
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567118)
Posted by rpetras on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:13pm CDT
Posted by rpetras on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:13pm CDT
He really needs a sword.
I kind of like it, but not for convention prices.
I feel the same about Cannonball and Devcon too.
If they were retail releases or store exclusives I'd get them.
Ferak is a skip in any case.
I'll be on the lookout for Scorponok, but if I can't find him for a price I like, I'm content enough with the Energon one.
I kind of like it, but not for convention prices.
I feel the same about Cannonball and Devcon too.
If they were retail releases or store exclusives I'd get them.
Ferak is a skip in any case.
I'll be on the lookout for Scorponok, but if I can't find him for a price I like, I'm content enough with the Energon one.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567120)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:18pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:18pm CDT
...Alrighty then. Not really what I wanted. But the remainder of the set is totally killer for me, so I might end up skipping MP-11 Starscream (*sob*) and getting this instead.
The "shield" works, I guess. Didn't know the mold was capable of holding it like that.
Now, what will the pair of two-packs and the army builder set be, I wonder...?
The "shield" works, I guess. Didn't know the mold was capable of holding it like that.
Now, what will the pair of two-packs and the army builder set be, I wonder...?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567121)
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:19pm CDT
The Classics Prime mold again?
Kinda disappointing, especially after such a long wait. You follow up Scorponok with this?
Kinda disappointing, especially after such a long wait. You follow up Scorponok with this?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567122)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:21pm CDT
I'm down for Ferak and Ginrai. I know a lot of people want Scorponok and Devcon. Split the cost?
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567124)
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
It's a "Classics" universe set to me (despite their labeling of this "Wings" universe thing). Not major characters outside of Scorponok, but everything can be justifiably put on a Classics shelf if desired, Cannonball maybe being tougher to justify. That makes me happy but also sad, because my shelf space for Classics is dwindling down to nothing.
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So here's what we got for the 30th Anniversary box set:
1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction
Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.
It's a "Classics" universe set to me (despite their labeling of this "Wings" universe thing). Not major characters outside of Scorponok, but everything can be justifiably put on a Classics shelf if desired, Cannonball maybe being tougher to justify. That makes me happy but also sad, because my shelf space for Classics is dwindling down to nothing.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567125)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Now that I think about it, weren't Ferak and Tornado among the very first comic-original characters ever created? I mean, Ferak was one of the first ones Marvel US made, and Tornado one of the first Marvel UK made, right?
So that kinda make the selection of those two for this set really make a lot of sense.
And was there any memorable cartoon-original TF character that appeared before Devcon did? If he was the first, then that further helps bring sense to this.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So here's what we got for the 30th Anniversary box set:
1. Cannonball - establishes the story setup and rationalizes some sense to the set
2. Ferak w/ Tornado - commemorate the original Transformers fiction: The Marvel G1 comics
3. Devcon - commemorates the original Transformers cartoon
4. Scorponok w/ Olin Zarak - commemorates the original Transformers toyline (through its gimmick)
5. Ginrai - commemorates the first Japanese-original Transformers cartoon that didn't directly build upon on the American fiction
Makes me wonder what the souvenirs will be like.
Now that I think about it, weren't Ferak and Tornado among the very first comic-original characters ever created? I mean, Ferak was one of the first ones Marvel US made, and Tornado one of the first Marvel UK made, right?
So that kinda make the selection of those two for this set really make a lot of sense.
And was there any memorable cartoon-original TF character that appeared before Devcon did? If he was the first, then that further helps bring sense to this.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567127)
Posted by Seibertron on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:27pm CDT
Looks like it's time to finish up the Fire Guts Ginrai gallery that I've been putting off until an appropriate time.
Posted by Seibertron on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yes.Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:
Is that an official figure?
Where else would the "Fire Guts" thing come from?
Looks like it's time to finish up the Fire Guts Ginrai gallery that I've been putting off until an appropriate time.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567131)
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:32pm CDT
Posted by shockblast2 on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:32pm CDT
......Really? 
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567132)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:33pm CDT
Essentially, the Wings Universe is an alternate version of the G1 cartoon universe, in which the two have mostly the same history, only with the Wings Universe having some additional events that the cartoon didn't have, and certain characters having different bodies from those seen in the cartoon (like, Optimus has his cartoon body, but Hot Rod has his Universe 2.0 Legends class body). In a way, this world acts as a substitute Classics universe, as the real Classicverse got destroyed, which was a splinter timeline for Marvel G1 comics that, like ReG1, ignored the G2 comics and UK G1 comics.ScottyP wrote:It's a "Classics" universe set to me (despite their labeling of this "Wings" universe thing). Not major characters outside of Scorponok, but everything can be justifiably put on a Classics shelf if desired, Cannonball maybe being tougher to justify. That makes me happy but also sad, because my shelf space for Classics is dwindling down to nothing.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567137)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:40pm CDT
Posted by Mindmaster on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:40pm CDT
Either way, if I do end up getting these, Scorponok and Ginrai are heading for my post-movie Classics display (along with Universe (2008) Powerglide, who's been off to the side waiting for an Ultra-class Decepticon foe to join him on said shelf [don't patronize me on why Powerglide should be there; I just like to keep things even]), and the remainder going to my catch-all Classics shelf. It needs more Decepticons, anyway; they're vastly outnumbered by Autobots, and it absolutely breaks my heart.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567139)
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:40pm CDT
I love this picture.
Posted by ScottyP on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:40pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
Looks like it's time to finish up the Fire Guts Ginrai gallery that I've been putting off until an appropriate time.
I love this picture.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567140)
Posted by Midnight_Fox on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:41pm CDT
I'll tentatively say yes on going halfsies if no one else has already. Depends on price and date of registration(availability of funds).
Posted by Midnight_Fox on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:41pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:OK. So I'm down for Ferak and Ginrai. I know a lot of people want Scorponok and Devcon. Wanna go halfsies?
I'll tentatively say yes on going halfsies if no one else has already. Depends on price and date of registration(availability of funds).
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567141)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by Doubledealer93 on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
Really? An other classics prime repaint? The only figure i like in this set is cannonball
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Posted by ShadowGinrai on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by ShadowGinrai on April 21st, 2014 @ 1:42pm CDT
I haven't been this excited about a box set since shattered glass. Now to figure out if I can afford it... 
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Posted by alexison on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:38pm CDT
That's pretty much my thoughts too. I'd love a classics Ginrai/SuperGinrai/GodGinrai but Fireguts isn't the one I had in mind. The colors on this mock up look good. The biggest eyesore for me is the Knight badge. It's like the club was screaming "See! He's a knight!"
Posted by alexison on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:38pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:So Scorponok looks pretty cool and it's nice to be getting Devcon ...
That's pretty much my thoughts too. I'd love a classics Ginrai/SuperGinrai/GodGinrai but Fireguts isn't the one I had in mind. The colors on this mock up look good. The biggest eyesore for me is the Knight badge. It's like the club was screaming "See! He's a knight!"
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Posted by megatronus on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:39pm CDT
If it only makes sense to you, I wouldn't really call that making "sense" (no offense)...
Posted by megatronus on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:39pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:So that kinda make the selection of those two for this set really make a lot of sense.
And was there any memorable cartoon-original TF character that appeared before Devcon did? If he was the first, then that further helps bring sense to this.
If it only makes sense to you, I wouldn't really call that making "sense" (no offense)...
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567168)
Posted by WiseMan on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:39pm CDT
Posted by WiseMan on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:39pm CDT
The set is Pirates vs. Knights.
I cannot find the word "knight" anywhere under any description of any Devcon character on the TFwiki. Neither can I find it on any Ginrai page (though I can find it in reference to the Sixknight character).
They could have called the set Pirates vs. Local Plumbers 386 and it would have the same amount of relevance to plumbers that it has to knights.
I cannot find the word "knight" anywhere under any description of any Devcon character on the TFwiki. Neither can I find it on any Ginrai page (though I can find it in reference to the Sixknight character).
They could have called the set Pirates vs. Local Plumbers 386 and it would have the same amount of relevance to plumbers that it has to knights.
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Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:44pm CDT
Ferak was the first Marvel US original TF character, Tornado was one of Simon Furman's first Marvel UK original TF characters, and Devcon might have been the first Sunbow cartoon original TF character (unless anyone can think of someone memorable who came before him), so that's a possible reason for why those three in particular were chosen.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:44pm CDT
Well, think about it. If they wanted to create toys of comic-original and cartoon-original characters to pay tribute to both of their respective sources of fiction, wouldn't it make sense for an anniversary set to choose (among) the very first ones ever created by each?megatronus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:So that kinda make the selection of those two for this set really make a lot of sense.
And was there any memorable cartoon-original TF character that appeared before Devcon did? If he was the first, then that further helps bring sense to this.
If it only makes sense to you, I wouldn't really call that making "sense" (no offense)...
Ferak was the first Marvel US original TF character, Tornado was one of Simon Furman's first Marvel UK original TF characters, and Devcon might have been the first Sunbow cartoon original TF character (unless anyone can think of someone memorable who came before him), so that's a possible reason for why those three in particular were chosen.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:45pm CDT
On the same note, Ferak, Tornado and Scorponok have never been Pirates either in their original fiction. >:oP
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:45pm CDT
WiseMan wrote:The set is Pirates vs. Knights.
I cannot find the word "knight" anywhere under any description of any Devcon character on the TFwiki. Neither can I find it on any Ginrai page (though I can find it in reference to the Sixknight character).
They could have called the set Pirates vs. Local Plumbers 386 and it would have the same amount of relevance to plumbers that it has to knights.
On the same note, Ferak, Tornado and Scorponok have never been Pirates either in their original fiction. >:oP
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567172)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:47pm CDT
Those who were complaining that this was ill-fitting for the anniversary may eat their hats, now.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:47pm CDT
Yeah, people, aside from Cannonball, forget the theme and it's pretty clear that this is obviously an anniversary set for the 30th anniversary that commemorates the original comics, cartoon, toyline, and Japanese lore of the brand.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:WiseMan wrote:The set is Pirates vs. Knights.
I cannot find the word "knight" anywhere under any description of any Devcon character on the TFwiki. Neither can I find it on any Ginrai page (though I can find it in reference to the Sixknight character).
They could have called the set Pirates vs. Local Plumbers 386 and it would have the same amount of relevance to plumbers that it has to knights.
On the same note, Ferak, Tornado and Scorponok have never been Pirates either in their original fiction. >:oP
Those who were complaining that this was ill-fitting for the anniversary may eat their hats, now.
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567174)
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:56pm CDT
Posted by craggy on April 21st, 2014 @ 2:56pm CDT
I was saying it was a good theme and I was looking forward to it. Turns out it's not all that Knighty in the Knight portion. Hauler would have been okay if it was a Pirates vs Plumbers set.
As a 30th anniversary set, as per Sabr's theory of these being the first characters of different types, it does make sense. I still don't like Ferak or Gingerai
As a 30th anniversary set, as per Sabr's theory of these being the first characters of different types, it does make sense. I still don't like Ferak or Gingerai
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567177)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 21st, 2014 @ 3:06pm CDT
Aside from Cannonball, the pirates aren't too pirate-y either.
But consider this. After 30 years, is it really that far out of the question for everyone other than Cannonball to have chosen a new career path?
It really seems that this year's theme has its character roster rooted more in the story that the characters will be in rather in the characters themselves.
In other news, Tornado has updated his Facebook with more posts since the last one we saw.
https://www.facebook.com/735228939844774/photos/a.735489069818761.1073741829.735228939844774/743575719010096/?type=1&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=744003945633940&id=735228939844774&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=744040688963599&id=735228939844774&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/735228939844774/photos/a.735489069818761.1073741829.735228939844774/750024905031844/?type=1&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=753000724734262&id=735228939844774&stream_ref=10
But consider this. After 30 years, is it really that far out of the question for everyone other than Cannonball to have chosen a new career path?
It really seems that this year's theme has its character roster rooted more in the story that the characters will be in rather in the characters themselves.
In other news, Tornado has updated his Facebook with more posts since the last one we saw.
https://www.facebook.com/735228939844774/photos/a.735489069818761.1073741829.735228939844774/743575719010096/?type=1&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=744003945633940&id=735228939844774&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=744040688963599&id=735228939844774&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/735228939844774/photos/a.735489069818761.1073741829.735228939844774/750024905031844/?type=1&stream_ref=10
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=753000724734262&id=735228939844774&stream_ref=10
Re: BotCon 2014 Final Exclusive Figure Revealed - Fire Guts Ginrai (1567180)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 21st, 2014 @ 3:16pm CDT
Interesting, so they mixed Japanese and US G1 together by mentioning "Planet Master" and "Nebulan" in the same story.
