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Registration is now live for those planning to attend BotCon 2014 in Pasadena, California! You can take a look at this year's brochure and package matrix by clicking here. Click here to get started.
For those who plan to purchase non-attendee packages registration will open sometime next week.
As always, the staff of Seibertron.com looks forward to seeing all of you there!
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Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:58pm CDT
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Posted by Mkall on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:09pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:12pm CDT
ILL-Star wrote:Typical. Making non-attendees wait till the next week again. It's probably for understandable reasons, but I'm getting real tired of it none the less.
Attendees should get first dibs so that all of those people who already have plane tickets and hotel reservations are able to get the convention exclusives and opportunities they want. I'm surprised they even have a non-attendee package ... to the best of my knowledge, most conventions of this nature don't offer anything like that.
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:15pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:ILL-Star wrote:Typical. Making non-attendees wait till the next week again. It's probably for understandable reasons, but I'm getting real tired of it none the less.
Attendees should get first dibs so that all of those people who already have plane tickets and hotel reservations are able to get the convention exclusives and opportunities they want. I'm surprised they even have a non-attendee package ... to the best of my knowledge, most conventions of this nature don't offer anything like that.
The delay is due to a problem with their connection to FedEx.
That said, I see it all the time for gaming conventions, though most exclusives in that case aren't done through the convention itself but at the booths for the specific producer and a number are held for webstore sales.
For example, for Gencon last year, Privateer Press produced 1000 10th Anniversary sets. 250 or so were set aside for the webstore(it was a hassle to get those, too) with 750 brought to the event for sale there.
Posted by fenrir72 on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:31pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 5:49pm CDT
Posted by hyperconvoy69 on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:01pm CDT
Posted by Henry921 on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:38pm CDT
Well I guess only the people going will get bagged sets to go with...
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:45pm CDT
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 9th, 2014 @ 6:52pm CDT
Posted by Air Commander Starscream on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:36pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:46pm CDT
Midnight_Fox wrote:IIRC, they stated there would be fewer bagged sets than previous years. Not surprising they're gone already.
Shame, with Scorpy they could print money, pay for next year's convention. But then he wouldnt be exclusive. God ai wish I had money...
Posted by Diem on May 9th, 2014 @ 9:18pm CDT
That box is beautiful but that shirt, though pretty, is too nerdy to wear outside of BotCon. They should have stuck with the 2011 design philosophy of shirts you can wear anyday.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2014 @ 11:22pm CDT
I really really wish people would stop calling him that.shockblast2 wrote:Fire Guts Ginrai
What a great name. I mean, forget Optimus Prime. Why would you want a subpar name like that when you could have Fire Guts. I wonder if its a nickname, like Tommy "Fingers" Magee or Johnny "Shades" Waters?
This toy is just "Ginrai". The old "Fire Guts" toy deco is being used as his standard form deco this time. While he can likely still power up for his attacks, he'll be an orange & red bot on fire this time instead of a red & blue one on fire. There is no need to refer to his non-powered form by his attack powered form name this time.
Posted by Rated X on May 9th, 2014 @ 11:54pm CDT
Posted by Diem on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:10am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Registered! Primus Package + assemble custom class figure.
This toy is just "Ginrai". The old "Fire Guts" toy deco is being used as his standard form deco this time. While he can likely still power up for his attacks, he'll be an orange & red bot on fire this time instead of a red & blue one on fire. There is no need to refer to his non-powered form by his attack powered form name this time.
Sorry Sabr but I'm calling foul on this. All we know so far is that canon-wise the toy is just called Ginrai, which isn't especially meaningful (unless we're all calling Tracks "Turbo Tracks" nowadays). Until the comic comes out I don't think we can call it; but I see it going one of three ways:
A) This character's origin is unrelated to Masterforce and he has always been orange - sure, he's plain Ginrai
B) This character is Masterforce Ginrai or has an analogous origin, and is now permanently or temporarily orange - then he's bloody Fire Guts Ginrai.
C) This character's origin is unrelated to Masterforce but the orange represents a powered up form - then unless they name him something different he's still bloody Fire Guts Ginrai.
While I appreciate that the letter of the law here is that his name is just Ginrai the spirit of law shows that he is deliberately designed to be intentionally evocative of a specific incarnation of the character Ginrai.
This all said I look forward to arguing with you in person! See you there man.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:24am CDT
So Option B is out.AUTOBOT KNIGHT GINRAI – He is the gruff, pragmatic and downright paranoid military leader of the Autobots/Maximals. An old-school warrior “Bot of Action”, Ginrai has earned the rank of Knight Commander. A veteran of the old conflicts, he’s not entirely comfortable with the peace, constantly waiting for the “other shoe to drop”.
I'm leaning towards Option A since we see him seemingly casually orange here:
No glowing aura effect or anything to signify a powered up form.
Not like he's seen here, which is him powered up:
So we have two pics in which he is orange, one of him not glowing/fired up, and the other of him glowing/fired up. Suggesting that he's orange no matter what.
Though, let's not kid ourselves here, since he obviously wasn't orange when using his attack in Masterforce, either. He was just engulfed in orange flames without an actual color change to his body.
LOL, I'm looking forward to seeing everyone, too. This is gonna be an awesome BotCon.Diem wrote:This all said I look forward to arguing with you in person! See you there man.
Posted by mooncake623 on May 10th, 2014 @ 1:10am CDT
Rated X wrote:Im skipping this year. I didnt like the pasadena vibe back in 2011. Ill attempt to buy a non attendee set but im not gonna kill myself staying glued to a computer screen. If I cant get one, ill just get it on ebay and help some poor scalper pay his monthly electric bill. And I dont see nothing nerdy about the shirt. Its black and has a nice throwback G1 style drawing. Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.
Haha. yea I'm going to do the same. Ebay if i cant get it on the site.
Posted by Windsweeper on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:40am CDT
Love the new head on Scorponok. I'd love to see it on my old G1 Scorpy.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:51am CDT
Technically, he's no more new a character than Devcon. He was in the Marvel G1 comics issue "The Smelting Pool!" and reappeared in the IDW comic mini-series "Last Stand of the Wreckers".Windsweeper wrote:What I like about this set is that how much Ferak looks like my KO oversized white Cyclonus. Always nice when a repaint is an actual new character.
Posted by shajaki on May 10th, 2014 @ 8:21am CDT
wait what? the loose sets are sold out? arent those for the non attendees, which can register for another week?ScottyP wrote:Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
Posted by mooncake623 on May 10th, 2014 @ 8:25am CDT
shajaki wrote:wait what? the loose sets are sold out? arent those for the non attendees, which can register for another week?ScottyP wrote:Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
No those are extra sets that you can buy and resell. Non-attendees gets a box set too. the bag sets is $100 cheaper.
Posted by Midnight_Fox on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:01pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:10pm CDT
*phew*mooncake623 wrote:No those are extra sets that you can buy and resell. Non-attendees gets a box set too. the bag sets is $100 cheaper.shajaki wrote:wait what? the loose sets are sold out? arent those for the non attendees, which can register for another week?ScottyP wrote:Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
still debating if im going to sign up and buy it from the source, or just get it from ebay.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:29pm CDT
shajaki wrote:*phew*mooncake623 wrote:No those are extra sets that you can buy and resell. Non-attendees gets a box set too. the bag sets is $100 cheaper.shajaki wrote:wait what? the loose sets are sold out? arent those for the non attendees, which can register for another week?ScottyP wrote:Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
still debating if im going to sign up and buy it from the source, or just get it from ebay.
And buy from scalpers? No way, my advice is to wait a few years for the prices to drop, or to look for members who are splitting up their sets and selling at cost.
Posted by shajaki on May 10th, 2014 @ 12:52pm CDT
this is one of those sets i fear wont drop... like the beast wars figures.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:And buy from scalpers? No way, my advice is to wait a few years for the prices to drop, or to look for members who are splitting up their sets and selling at cost.shajaki wrote:*phew*mooncake623 wrote:No those are extra sets that you can buy and resell. Non-attendees gets a box set too. the bag sets is $100 cheaper.shajaki wrote:wait what? the loose sets are sold out? arent those for the non attendees, which can register for another week?ScottyP wrote:Yeah, bagged sets are sold out apparently. Crazy quick!
still debating if im going to sign up and buy it from the source, or just get it from ebay.
the attendee sets up right now, how many boxed sets can you buy? anyone out there wanna buy a second... for me?
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2014 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
Va'al wrote:Check out below Devcon, Ferak, Scorponok with Olin Zarak, Fire Guts Ginrai and Cannonball, and of course, the box.
Posted by Va'al on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:05pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:09pm CDT
Posted by MGrotusque on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:09pm CDT
Rated X wrote: Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.
If you say so dude.
Posted by MGrotusque on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:22pm CDT
Diem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Registered! Primus Package + assemble custom class figure.
This toy is just "Ginrai". The old "Fire Guts" toy deco is being used as his standard form deco this time. While he can likely still power up for his attacks, he'll be an orange & red bot on fire this time instead of a red & blue one on fire. There is no need to refer to his non-powered form by his attack powered form name this time.
Sorry Sabr but I'm calling foul on this. All we know so far is that canon-wise the toy is just called Ginrai, which isn't especially meaningful (unless we're all calling Tracks "Turbo Tracks" nowadays). Until the comic comes out I don't think we can call it; but I see it going one of three ways:
A) This character's origin is unrelated to Masterforce and he has always been orange - sure, he's plain Ginrai
B) This character is Masterforce Ginrai or has an analogous origin, and is now permanently or temporarily orange - then he's bloody Fire Guts Ginrai.
C) This character's origin is unrelated to Masterforce but the orange represents a powered up form - then unless they name him something different he's still bloody Fire Guts Ginrai.
While I appreciate that the letter of the law here is that his name is just Ginrai the spirit of law shows that he is deliberately designed to be intentionally evocative of a specific incarnation of the character Ginrai.
This all said I look forward to arguing with you in person! See you there man.
Plus Fire Guts is just way cooler than plain old Ginrai. Just let it happen Sabrblade. Don't get too worked up about it man.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:23pm CDT
It's like when people refer toys of Strika and Tankor as "Stryka" and "Tankorr", and consider those the official names.
Journalistic honesty/authenticity and that stuff.
Posted by Rated X on May 10th, 2014 @ 2:34pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:Rated X wrote: Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.
If you say so dude.
Ive worn transformer shirts to bars and strip clubs and met girls. Its called self confidence. Guess not being a nerd also helps too.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 10th, 2014 @ 3:04pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:It's not about the fiction, it's about the integrity of toy publicity.
It's like when people refer toys of Strika and Tankor as "Stryka" and "Tankorr", and consider those the official names.
Journalistic honesty/authenticity and that stuff.
In all honesty, the site hardly ever gives the proper trademarked names of the figures, only the boxset. And judging from the faint names on the side, it looks like we're going the 2006 route:
"Pirate Cannonball"
"Pirate Ferak"
"Pirate Scorponok"
"Knight Devcon"
"Knight Ginrai"
Posted by It Is Him on May 10th, 2014 @ 4:38pm CDT
Rated X wrote:MGrotusque wrote:Rated X wrote: Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.
If you say so dude.
Ive worn transformer shirts to bars and strip clubs and met girls. Its called self confidence. Guess not being a nerd also helps too.
Girls at strip clubs don't care what you look like as long as you give them money. Besides, you're a nerd. You have hundreds of posts on a message board about cartoon robots, and could probably name everyone that was released 1984. Own it. It's cool. I'm a nerd, too, and it's okay. You can do it with whatever swag is, but you are still a nerd and that's not a bad thing.
Posted by Diem on May 10th, 2014 @ 5:30pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:Rated X wrote:MGrotusque wrote:Rated X wrote: Just rock some black sweatpants and a fresh pair of Nikes and that shirt can go anywhere. A shirt doesnt make someone look nerd. Not having swag is what makes someone look nerd.
If you say so dude.
Ive worn transformer shirts to bars and strip clubs and met girls. Its called self confidence. Guess not being a nerd also helps too.
Girls at strip clubs don't care what you look like as long as you give them money. Besides, you're a nerd. You have hundreds of posts on a message board about cartoon robots, and could probably name everyone that was released 1984. Own it. It's cool. I'm a nerd, too, and it's okay. You can do it with whatever swag is, but you are still a nerd and that's not a bad thing.
"I've worn a T-shirt I purchased without irony at a convention about children's toys that are transforming alien robots and met girls. It helps that I'm not a nerd."
Just kidding Rated. But your swag must be stronger than mine. I could maybe pull in a logo shirt, possibly the BotCon 2011 shirt but not this nerdy beauty. Unless the girl was nerdy or a nerd-lover too, but that's not really the point.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:47pm CDT
Preach it, brother!It Is Him wrote:Besides, you're a nerd. You have hundreds of posts on a message board about cartoon robots, and could probably name everyone that was released 1984. Own it. It's cool. I'm a nerd, too, and it's okay. You can do it with whatever swag is, but you are still a nerd and that's not a bad thing.
Posted by YoungPrime on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:52pm CDT
Looks like only Scorpinok is a Con though
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 7:56pm CDT
Pirates: Cannonball, Ferak & Tornado, and Scorponok piloted by Olin Zarak.YoungPrime wrote:Which ones are Knights and which are Pirates?
Looks like only Scorpinok is a Con though
Knights: Ginrai and Devcon.
There should be two more pirates, three more knights, one "rogue Decepticon", and pirate troop builders in the souvenir sets and the attendee figure. No info on what faction the customization class figure is, though.
Here's the info on these five box set toy characters from the BotCon brochure:
DECEPTICON PIRATE CANNONBALL – A smarmy, charismatic pirate leader, who rules through charm and subterfuge, rather than force and intimidation, Cannonball is a Bot who’d sooner talk his way out of a fight or into a prize, but is more than capable when he needs to do battle. While he specializes in deception, fraud and even out-and-out impersonation, Cannonball is also skilled with blades and melee weapons – a true swashbuckler.
DECEPTICON PIRATE FERAK – Ferak is a sadist and the Pirates’ maintenance man. He keeps the ship together and can cobble Engines of Terror for casting fear on their victims. He used to be part of an elite Decepticon team called “Squadron X” during the war, but has found adapting to peacetime rather difficult. He is partnered with the diminutive TORNADO, a former member of Squadron X, whose alternate mode is a gun, but an ill-designed gun that jams and threatens to explode if a round of ammunition becomes lodged (it happens a lot – Ferak has the powder burns to prove it).
DECEPTICON PIRATE SCORPONOK – Scorponok is the fusion of machine and a Nebulan named Zarak. Last we had seen of Scorponok, he was flying through space serving as the battleship for the tattered remains of the Decepticon army. Now, however, Zarak has been forced to scuttle much of that battleship, rebuilding Scorponok into a smaller body.
AUTOBOT KNIGHT GINRAI – He is the gruff, pragmatic and downright paranoid military leader of the Autobots/Maximals. An old-school warrior “Bot of Action”, Ginrai has earned the rank of Knight Commander. A veteran of the old conflicts, he’s not entirely comfortable with the peace, constantly waiting for the “other shoe to drop”.
AUTOBOT KNIGHT DEVCON – A loner and former bounty hunter who holds the rank of Knight Sergeant, Devcon is the Batman to Ginrai’s Commissioner Gordon – the Bot willing to cross the line, bend the rules, shake down an informant. He doesn’t play well with others, but he gets the job done every time.
Posted by Henry921 on May 10th, 2014 @ 8:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:There should be two more pirates, three more knights, one "rogue Decepticon", and pirate troop builders in the souvenir sets and the attendee figure. No info on what faction the customization class figure is, though.
If I'm remembering the original tweet, they said one "rogue Decepticon who may or may not be a pirate". Are we sure that's not Scorponok?
Though if I had to guess I'd say the rogue Decepticon is in the deluxe two pack fighting a knight, and one of the pirates is the custom class figure.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 10th, 2014 @ 8:17pm CDT
I dunno, Olin seems pretty content being a pirate, bossing everyone around (except the captain), making them treat him like he's royalty.Henry921 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:There should be two more pirates, three more knights, one "rogue Decepticon", and pirate troop builders in the souvenir sets and the attendee figure. No info on what faction the customization class figure is, though.
If I'm remembering the original tweet, they said one "rogue Decepticon who may or may not be a pirate". Are we sure that's not Scorponok?
As this is Rebirth Scorponok, he's probably not alive on his own since he was operated by Lord Zarak.
Posted by Hero Alpha on May 10th, 2014 @ 10:02pm CDT
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Posted by It Is Him on May 11th, 2014 @ 12:37pm CDT
craggy wrote:so is Swag the newest Dinobot?
Yeah, he's in the new movie along with slang, snitch and stool.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 11th, 2014 @ 2:46pm CDT
Isn't Saturday the Universal Studios night? Or is that Friday?ScottyP wrote:There is not a lot of time left before the show. Where should we have the pseudo-official meetup? I'm thinking Saturday night at Yardhouse across from the center in Paseo Colorado, if we're gonna overpay for beer, might as well get bigger ones.
Or wait, if it is Friday, then isn't Saturday the dinner that BotCon holds each year?
Posted by Diem on May 11th, 2014 @ 2:56pm CDT
I thought that there wasn't a dinner this year BECAUSE of Universal but I could be wrong.Sabrblade wrote:Isn't Saturday the Universal Studios night? Or is that Friday?ScottyP wrote:There is not a lot of time left before the show. Where should we have the pseudo-official meetup? I'm thinking Saturday night at Yardhouse across from the center in Paseo Colorado, if we're gonna overpay for beer, might as well get bigger ones.
Or wait, if it is Friday, then isn't Saturday the dinner that BotCon holds each year?
The gift shop at the Transformers ride is not gonna know what hit it. Oddly I was there about a month ago and they had a bunch of GDO Scouts and hilariously overpriced Generations.