Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end
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Due to many films postponing their release due to the pandemic, everything is coming out all at once. So within the next month, we are getting The Little Mermaid, Into the Spiderverse, Elemental and The Flash with Rise of the Beasts in the middle of all that. And these films are not only big blockbusters but also all family friendly, making for some tough competition.
Be that as it may, the prediction from Deadline is a bold one, with an estimated $70 M domestic opening week-end. So that would be just for Canada and the US, and they remind us that these films have made more money in China than domestically so the film could make a bulk of its money overseas.
However, please remember that while China may sell a lot of tickets, the cinemas there retain a much bigger share of the price than in North America (Paramount would get around 40-50% of the ticket sales in NA and less in Asia).
The budget for Rise of the Beasts is estimated to be $200 Million before marketing. So the film would have to make around $500-$600 Million to break even (especially if the bulk of ticket sales comes from overseas). The Last Knight did manage to make 600 Million but Bumblebee did not. Let us know what your predictions are.
Be that as it may, the prediction from Deadline is a bold one, with an estimated $70 M domestic opening week-end. So that would be just for Canada and the US, and they remind us that these films have made more money in China than domestically so the film could make a bulk of its money overseas.
However, please remember that while China may sell a lot of tickets, the cinemas there retain a much bigger share of the price than in North America (Paramount would get around 40-50% of the ticket sales in NA and less in Asia).
The budget for Rise of the Beasts is estimated to be $200 Million before marketing. So the film would have to make around $500-$600 Million to break even (especially if the bulk of ticket sales comes from overseas). The Last Knight did manage to make 600 Million but Bumblebee did not. Let us know what your predictions are.
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Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161895)
Posted by DeathReviews on May 21st, 2023 @ 9:12pm CDT
Posted by DeathReviews on May 21st, 2023 @ 9:12pm CDT
It's hard to predict with certainty, since we live in a universe of infinite possibilities. But I think they're over-estimating, which is something the geniuses in Hollywood have been doing a lot recently. Especially if the producers and writers try to use the film as a soapbox to vent their personal hang-ups, which has also been a predictable (and annoying) habit of theirs.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161896)
Posted by First-Aid on May 21st, 2023 @ 10:46pm CDT
Though the movie gross is important, in a case like this I think there is more to it. This is more of a total package thing: movie sales PLUS toy sales PLUS merchandising. If the BB movie really did so poorly globally compared to its budget, why did Paramount make a sequel? Easy. Hasbro makes more than enough on toy and merchandising sales to compensate Paramount for however poorly the movie does at the theater. The movies are still glorified toy commercials....just with better special effects than the old days.
That said, I think $600 million globally is not out of reach for this movie. I predict a global gross of $701,225,306.43.
Posted by First-Aid on May 21st, 2023 @ 10:46pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:It's hard to predict with certainty, since we live in a universe of infinite possibilities. But I think they're over-estimating, which is something the geniuses in Hollywood have been doing a lot recently. Especially if the producers and writers try to use the film as a soapbox to vent their personal hang-ups, which has also been a predictable (and annoying) habit of theirs.
Though the movie gross is important, in a case like this I think there is more to it. This is more of a total package thing: movie sales PLUS toy sales PLUS merchandising. If the BB movie really did so poorly globally compared to its budget, why did Paramount make a sequel? Easy. Hasbro makes more than enough on toy and merchandising sales to compensate Paramount for however poorly the movie does at the theater. The movies are still glorified toy commercials....just with better special effects than the old days.
That said, I think $600 million globally is not out of reach for this movie. I predict a global gross of $701,225,306.43.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161906)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 12:49pm CDT
This will either be the biggest Transformers film in history or will crash and burn so badly that fans will be getting into knife fights in toy isles trying to get those Zuru mini-brand balls since those will be the only way to get new Transformers toys.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161912)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 22nd, 2023 @ 2:35pm CDT
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 22nd, 2023 @ 2:35pm CDT
No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161913)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 2:39pm CDT
What movie?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 2:39pm CDT
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161917)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 3:48pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 3:48pm CDT
Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161919)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 4:07pm CDT
They made a movie about that?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 4:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161921)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 4:26pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 4:26pm CDT
What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161925)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 22nd, 2023 @ 5:06pm CDT
Transmorphers: The Rising of Marshawn Lynch's Big Day Out: Part 7.
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 22nd, 2023 @ 5:06pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
Transmorphers: The Rising of Marshawn Lynch's Big Day Out: Part 7.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161940)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 6:09pm CDT
Who's a movie?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 6:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Who's a movie?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161942)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 6:17pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 6:17pm CDT
Who's on firstchuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Who's a movie?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161958)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 8:30pm CDT
What's on second?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 8:30pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Who's on firstchuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Who's a movie?
What's on second?
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161959)
Posted by First-Aid on May 22nd, 2023 @ 8:31pm CDT
I DONT KNOW.
Posted by First-Aid on May 22nd, 2023 @ 8:31pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Who's on firstchuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Who's a movie?
I DONT KNOW.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161966)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 10:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 22nd, 2023 @ 10:18pm CDT
Third baseFirst-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Who's on firstchuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Who's a movie?
I DONT KNOW.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161967)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 10:20pm CDT
I love you guys, well some of you. I'll let you figure it all out.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 22nd, 2023 @ 10:20pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Third baseFirst-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Who's on firstchuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What's a movie?chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly!chuckdawg1999 wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:No one I talk to IRL knows this movie even exists.
What movie?
They made a movie about that?
Who's a movie?
I DONT KNOW.
I love you guys, well some of you. I'll let you figure it all out.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161968)
Posted by noctorro on May 23rd, 2023 @ 2:45am CDT
Posted by noctorro on May 23rd, 2023 @ 2:45am CDT
I'm hyped and I hope it's fun and does well.
Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.
+ the trailer looks fun, but blurry and not sharp/realistic. So for not Transformers fans, I can imagine it looks like a weak Transformers/pixar animation movie instead of Dark of the Moon realistic looking practical effects spectacle but 10 years more advanced. Looking at the trailer it actually looks less than Transformers 1 from 2007, it looks more anime/game like in shots/action which is good.
I hope it does well, I hope the Transformers characters, have character and dialogue and not only toward humans. I do hope they incorporate humans and human areas (cities etc.). That battle scene looks very cool, but also very fully cg pixar. It's a bunch of cg animals fighting other cg robot animals in a muddy desert.
Keep it cool, keep it fun and also keep it serious (don't go full Marvel) and it will be a good movie. If it does well, I think it will break even at best. Too much competition and a bit too niche looking at the trailer, and cg just looks playstation 3, whilst we have already got a playstation 5.
Now being realistic, I heard from a couple of directions that the movie has that thick modern layer of wokeness. People aren't eating that anymore and there is already a shift back to normal/good. But since delays that virus could still be in this movie.
+ the trailer looks fun, but blurry and not sharp/realistic. So for not Transformers fans, I can imagine it looks like a weak Transformers/pixar animation movie instead of Dark of the Moon realistic looking practical effects spectacle but 10 years more advanced. Looking at the trailer it actually looks less than Transformers 1 from 2007, it looks more anime/game like in shots/action which is good.
I hope it does well, I hope the Transformers characters, have character and dialogue and not only toward humans. I do hope they incorporate humans and human areas (cities etc.). That battle scene looks very cool, but also very fully cg pixar. It's a bunch of cg animals fighting other cg robot animals in a muddy desert.
Keep it cool, keep it fun and also keep it serious (don't go full Marvel) and it will be a good movie. If it does well, I think it will break even at best. Too much competition and a bit too niche looking at the trailer, and cg just looks playstation 3, whilst we have already got a playstation 5.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161971)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 23rd, 2023 @ 6:53am CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 23rd, 2023 @ 6:53am CDT
From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!
Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!
https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1
Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!
https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161974)
Posted by First-Aid on May 23rd, 2023 @ 8:27am CDT
Outside of the rock in the 86 movie, there are few distinct riffs from that film....except one: the Unicron theme. I expect those parallel sixths from the Unicron Suite to pop up.
Posted by First-Aid on May 23rd, 2023 @ 8:27am CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!
Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!
https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1
Outside of the rock in the 86 movie, there are few distinct riffs from that film....except one: the Unicron theme. I expect those parallel sixths from the Unicron Suite to pop up.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161978)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 23rd, 2023 @ 11:16am CDT
The music that plays during the siege of Autobot City, when we're first introduced to Perceptor, sticks out in my mind as well.
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on May 23rd, 2023 @ 11:16am CDT
First-Aid wrote:EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:From this interview with ROTB’s composer, There will be themes from both Steve Jablonsky and the 86 movie in ROTB!
Super excited to hear some Bayverse music mixed in!
https://www.reddit.com/r/transformers/c ... utm_term=1
Outside of the rock in the 86 movie, there are few distinct riffs from that film....except one: the Unicron theme. I expect those parallel sixths from the Unicron Suite to pop up.
The music that plays during the siege of Autobot City, when we're first introduced to Perceptor, sticks out in my mind as well.
Re: Box Office Prediction for Rise of the Beasts Peg it with $70M for its Domestic Opening Week-end (2161980)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 23rd, 2023 @ 11:36am CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on May 23rd, 2023 @ 11:36am CDT
I imagine we’ll hear Arrival to Earth at some point (which would be awesome), but besides that, maybe we’ll hear Optimus and Bumblebee’s respective themes?
Hearing some of Steve Jablonsky’s themes again has made me even more excited to see ROTB, can’t wait!
Hearing some of Steve Jablonsky’s themes again has made me even more excited to see ROTB, can’t wait!
