Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

Tuesday, September 13th, 2016 9:44am CDT

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Autobot N has once again found an interesting photo on facebook which breaks down the upcoming Titans Return toys coming out in 2017. While we were already aware of all these toys coming out, this now tells us which ones are Titan Masters, Deluxes, Leaders and Legends. For instance it is now confirmed that TR Arcee is simply a Titan Master, same with Grotesque, Battletrap, Ranger and Hosehead. While the image does not break down the waves, the first 4 are all of the next wave and thus we can assume that the rest follow in order. Knowing that we broke it down for you below. The order of release may not be the same next year but we now know which classes these are all found in.


Wave 4
Titanmaster:
Grotesque
Ranger
Hosehead
Arcee

Legends:
Cliffjumper
Huffer
Seaspray

Deluxes:
Quake
Krok
Topspin
Kup

Voyagers:
Broadside

Leaders:
Overlord.

Wave 5
Titanmasters:
Battletrap
Repungus
Shuffler
Toraizer

Legends:
Cosmos
Hubcap
Chase

Deluxes:
Perceptor
Crosshairs
Slugslinger
Misfire

Voyagers:
Octane
Blitzwing

Leaders:
Skyshadow

Wave 6
Titanmasters:
Optimus Prime
(Ramhorn as confirmed by Mr Chaos)

Legends:
Freeway
Searchlight

Deluxes:
Needlenose
Nightbeat

Voyagers:
Apeface
Snapdragon

Leaders:
Deathsaurus

Transformers News: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

Transformers News: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

Transformers News: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

Transformers News: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

Transformers News: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys

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Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824346)
Posted by mblase75 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:09am CDT
Happy to see Slugslinger and Misfire on the way -- sad that I don't see Pointblank or Sureshot on the list.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824347)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:11am CDT
an actual deathsaurus as opposed to the lackluster skylynx repaint? color me intrigued. in fact, a lot on these leaked lists lately have me interested.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824349)
Posted by Autobot N on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:13am CDT
Wait. I just now realized something...

DELUXE NIGHTBEAT WOO HOO!!!!!!
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824352)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:15am CDT
Man, they are really trying to murder my wallet here... :D
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824356)
Posted by Cobotron on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:33am CDT
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Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824357)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:34am CDT
Voyager => Triple Changer => Apeface and Snapdragon....


F%&K YEAH


:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824361)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:35am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Voyager => Triple Changer => Apeface and Snapdragon....


F%&K YEAH


:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:

CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!


Gonna be holding on to that best triple changer list till then.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824363)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:36am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Voyager => Triple Changer => Apeface and Snapdragon....


F%&K YEAH


:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:

CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!


Gonna be holding on to that best triple changer list till then.

What do you mean? Springer already won... though, I guess they could steal that spot by being more off-the-wall if done well enough
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824365)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:39am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Voyager => Triple Changer => Apeface and Snapdragon....


F%&K YEAH


:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:

CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!


Gonna be holding on to that best triple changer list till then.

What do you mean? Springer already won... though, I guess they could steal that spot by being more off-the-wall if done well enough

Sure he's number 1 but the lack of good ones leaves me with Energon Shockwave at 5 and I would rather wait for these to come out before publishing that list.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824366)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:42am CDT
Glad we're getting a new Huffer; that way the next line can have an easy new head redeco into Pipes for the MTMTE dead pile

A new Nightbeat would be lovely... though I'm very surprised at Nightbeat, Apeface and Snapdragon getting full figures. Makes me wonder what the point of releasing them as Titan Masters was.

Deathsaurus is a lovely surprise, especially considering he might be gaining some prominence very soon in IDW...
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824367)
Posted by RodimusRex on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:42am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Autobot N has once again found an interesting photo on facebook which breaks down the upcoming Titans Return toys coming out in 2017. While we were already aware of all these toys coming out, this now tells us which ones are Titan Masters, Deluxes, Leaders and Legends. For instance it is now confirmed that TR Arcee is simply a Titan Master, same with Grotesque, Battletrap, Ranger and Hosehead. While the image does not break down the waves, the first 4 are all of the next wave and thus we can assume that the rest follow in order. Knowing that we broke it down for you below. The order of release may not be the same next year but we now know which classes these are all found in.


I think it's very likely that some of the ones that are "only Titan Masters" will eventually be released somewhere with a body from another line retooled to accommodate the head. I think it's also possible that these could account for some of the gaps in our knowledge.

The reason why, say, we know 13 of 16 deluxes would be because the leak might be with someone who would know or work around the designs for new bodies.

The other 3 could well be bodies from other lines or, say, farmed out to Takara or another team for retooling.

If it's Adventure RiD Grimlock with the G1 Dinomode head and a Titan port in robot mode, maybe it wouldn't be part of the list that's leaking?

Likewise if Arcee is just a new TM going on the existing CHUG Arcee body with a nick port retooled in.

What a person has access to could be a function of what needs to be done.

For instance, if the leak is coming from someone who does box art, maybe Hasbro wouldn't need new box art for Arcee or Grimlock. Hm. Legends scale Rodimus used stock art of G1 Rodimus right? And that one DIDN'T get leaked?

I mean, it influences how we can interpret this if the leak comes from, say, someone who works in the supply chain for trading card artwork, say someone whose job is to organize which freelancers are doing which cards. Because then we could infer that the "missing" slots are probably using fairly recent archival artwork. Which would tell us that the character in the mystery slots will be a character who has had an action figure in the last few years (at least recently enough that there's an illustration of them in the right art style if not the right mold detailing).
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824369)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:44am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:Voyager => Triple Changer => Apeface and Snapdragon....


F%&K YEAH


:DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE: :DANCE:

CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!


Gonna be holding on to that best triple changer list till then.

What do you mean? Springer already won... though, I guess they could steal that spot by being more off-the-wall if done well enough

Sure he's number 1 but the lack of good ones leaves me with Energon Shockwave at 5 and I would rather wait for these to come out before publishing that list.

ouch... maybe you could do 'multi-changers of 3 modes and up, and include the new sixshot and animated shockwave, since they wouldn't be able to make any lists with just their own gimmick ;)^
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824370)
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:45am CDT
A little disheartened to see that Shockwave wasn't in that breakdown, hopefully it'll become clear in good time.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824371)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:45am CDT
Kurona wrote:A new Nightbeat would be lovely... though I'm very surprised at Nightbeat, Apeface and Snapdragon getting full figures. Makes me wonder what the point of releasing them as Titan Masters was.

So they can maybe beat out TT by having a cartoon and toy accurate head? or toy accurate and comic accurate? I don't read comics and therefore don't know if they have a presence or a different face :oops:
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824372)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:46am CDT
happy abou everything excep im
disappointed that shockwave isnt listed yet,(im hoping he will be a leader) arcee is a titanmaster
i dont like the idea of the boxsets.

Where is Preadaking?
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824373)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:49am CDT
Kurona wrote:Glad we're getting a new Huffer; that way the next line can have an easy new head redeco into Pipes for the MTMTE dead pile


Whats great is that I only have the pipes version of that mold so when I get this huffer, both will have different molds and headsculpts :DANCE:

A new Nightbeat would be lovely... though I'm very surprised at Nightbeat, Apeface and Snapdragon getting full figures. Makes me wonder what the point of releasing them as Titan Masters was.

Money. But also it gives us different heads.
Nightbeat will have that visor and we will get the animal head for apeface since we already have the robot one.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824374)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:51am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Kurona wrote:A new Nightbeat would be lovely... though I'm very surprised at Nightbeat, Apeface and Snapdragon getting full figures. Makes me wonder what the point of releasing them as Titan Masters was.

So they can maybe beat out TT by having a cartoon and toy accurate head? or toy accurate and comic accurate? I don't read comics and therefore don't know if they have a presence or a different face :oops:

That's the thing; I can kind of understand Nightbeat due to him infamously switching heads with Hosehead back in the day and so he has two very distinct head designs... but Apeface doesn't have two face designs. The only possible thing I can think of is that the original toy's headmaster was also a triple changer - going from Robot to Robot Head to Ape Head. And hence the advantage here would be that the Titan Master would come with the Robot Head and the Voyager comes with the Ape Head... but then that means unless you get a separate toy, when you buy Apeface he's either headless or his Robot Mode head is literally an Ape Face. Oy vey.

Still, in any case; it's just a confusing situation to me and nothing more. I'm VERY happy both are happening - I don't particularly care for Apeface myself (aside from his original toy's sexy jet mode), but I'm happy for the people who wanted him :)
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824376)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:ouch... maybe you could do 'multi-changers of 3 modes and up, and include the new sixshot and animated shockwave, since they wouldn't be able to make any lists with just their own gimmick ;)^

They will have their own list for multiple mode toys. Triplechangers are very much their own type so I will keep them that way.
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824379)
Posted by Kurona on September 13th, 2016 @ 10:57am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:ouch... maybe you could do 'multi-changers of 3 modes and up, and include the new sixshot and animated shockwave, since they wouldn't be able to make any lists with just their own gimmick ;)^

They will have their own list for multiple mode toys. Triplechangers are very much their own type so I will keep them that way.

While I'm sure it's a spoiler, I'm curious who else is a candidate for the list so far :-?
Are you including Thrilling 30 Sandstorm or do retools not count outside of a mention in the original mold's spot
Re: Breakdown by Class of Upcoming 2017 Transformers Titans Return Toys (1824382)
Posted by william-james88 on September 13th, 2016 @ 11:05am CDT
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:ouch... maybe you could do 'multi-changers of 3 modes and up, and include the new sixshot and animated shockwave, since they wouldn't be able to make any lists with just their own gimmick ;)^

They will have their own list for multiple mode toys. Triplechangers are very much their own type so I will keep them that way.

While I'm sure it's a spoiler, I'm curious who else is a candidate for the list so far :-?
Are you including Thrilling 30 Sandstorm or do retools not count outside of a mention in the original mold's spot

Winner is a tie of Sandstorm and Springer... so far. I find they are both as good. All the G1 triplechangers, the other Gen 30 triple changers, Energon Shockwave, Animated Blitzwing, the classics triple changers (ie Tankor) were all considered, along with toys which have a robot mode and alt mode and a base mold (since Hasbro sees them as Triple changers in TR). Pretty much I am sticking to the most accepted view of what counts as a triple changer and the ones with a weak third mode are also considerd but wont make it. Like Gen Whirl, he counts too but he sure wont appear.

Here's a good list to get an idea of what might count although it hasnt been updated in a while

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Triple_Changer

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