Bumblebee Variant Found in Transformers: The Last Knight Premier Edition
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ScottyP wrote:I'd heard some rumors about a deluxe Bumblebee variant, so I took a look for myself and yep, there is one. Behold - launch day purchase on the left, today's purchase on the right:
You can see the black paint not only gets onto the roof, but portions of the rear of the vehicle as well.
In robot mode there's no difference that's really noticeable. The shades of yellow are my lighting setup being crappy/me being not great at pictures. Trust me on this, the yellows are the same despite what it might look like here!
However, when it's in the package, the roof pieces are left flat on the back. I've posed these oddly to show you how you can identify the variant in the store. The easiest way is to look at the rear piece, as the black "leaks through" a bit even when viewed from the front. The roof panel itself can be helpful in this but it isn't as reliable.
Given that the assortment codes are the same, I don't know of any other way to identify them while in the store, outside of being a total prick and opening the package in the aisle (do not do this.)
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 19th, 2017 @ 8:08am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 8:09am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 19th, 2017 @ 8:10am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
And made Hot Rod a wave 3 deluxe? That is a question no one can answer
Posted by Solrac333 on May 19th, 2017 @ 8:39am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on May 19th, 2017 @ 8:42am CDT
Haha! +1 Zing!!omega666 wrote:And because of the extra paint, this is now $39.99. The Primeirier Edition.
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:06am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:08am CDT
Terrsolpix wrote:Just a small tip for variant identification. Shine a phone light into the package while having the phone cover the least amount of clear plastic as possible. That's how I got good paint applications on CW deluxes.
If I did that, would I expect weird looks from the shop assistants like when I went through the 30 or so Tiny Turbo Changers they had on the pegs yesterday searching for Prime and Grimlock? I put all the unbought ones back on the pegs like a good tidy person though.
Posted by bacem on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:13am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Just a small tip for variant identification. Shine a phone light into the package while having the phone cover the least amount of clear plastic as possible. That's how I got good paint applications on CW deluxes.
If I did that, would I expect weird looks from the shop assistants like when I went through the 30 or so Tiny Turbo Changers they had on the pegs yesterday searching for Prime and Grimlock? I put all the unbought ones back on the pegs like a good tidy person though.
does molesting blind bags still counts as weird on US retails?
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:13am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Just a small tip for variant identification. Shine a phone light into the package while having the phone cover the least amount of clear plastic as possible. That's how I got good paint applications on CW deluxes.
If I did that, would I expect weird looks from the shop assistants like when I went through the 30 or so Tiny Turbo Changers they had on the pegs yesterday searching for Prime and Grimlock? I put all the unbought ones back on the pegs like a good tidy person though.
Tiny Turbos have a code on the back that just needs to be held up to the dimmest store light. Glad to see someone who also repegs them instead of throwing them in a box of the RID ones.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:16am CDT
Terrsolpix wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Just a small tip for variant identification. Shine a phone light into the package while having the phone cover the least amount of clear plastic as possible. That's how I got good paint applications on CW deluxes.
If I did that, would I expect weird looks from the shop assistants like when I went through the 30 or so Tiny Turbo Changers they had on the pegs yesterday searching for Prime and Grimlock? I put all the unbought ones back on the pegs like a good tidy person though.
Tiny Turbos have a code on the back that just needs to be held up to the dimmest store light. Glad to see someone who also repegs them instead of throwing them in a box of the RID ones.
I was using that list but those letters are kinda embossed and very small and it's hard to get the right kind of light to make out the exact shape of the letter so it took a while and i had my phone perched up ontop on the shelf below displaying the list.
Posted by Terrsolpix on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:16am CDT
bacem wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:Terrsolpix wrote:Just a small tip for variant identification. Shine a phone light into the package while having the phone cover the least amount of clear plastic as possible. That's how I got good paint applications on CW deluxes.
If I did that, would I expect weird looks from the shop assistants like when I went through the 30 or so Tiny Turbo Changers they had on the pegs yesterday searching for Prime and Grimlock? I put all the unbought ones back on the pegs like a good tidy person though.
does molesting blind bags still counts as weird on US retails?
Is not as bad ever since the Lego minifigure blind bags. I collect them and nobody bats an eye, mostly because I get them from an official store since it's cheaper that way. Also, Tiny Turbos tend to get bent in bag if too much force is applied.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:23am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
And made Hot Rod a wave 3 deluxe? That is a question no one can answer
and take out all the dinobots but scorn, because theres no reason for them to be there
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:24am CDT
bacem wrote:does molesting blind bags still counts as weird on US retails?
I was in canada doing the same and I felt pretty weird. But I found my Soundwave!
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:26am CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:and take out all the dinobots but scorn, because theres no reason for them to be there
I dunno about Grimlock. The voyager toy is still very good and now in a more accurate paintjob easy available in regular stores and he does appear a lot in the trailers so likely a key character in the film so if missed out on the AoE release which obviously isn't in shops now (and was only sold in Toys R Us here in the UK back then) then I can understand the redecoed re-release there. Just the price hike on it is the annoying bit.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:29am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:and take out all the dinobots but scorn, because theres no reason for them to be there
I dunno about Grimlock. The voyager toy is still very good and now in a more accurate paintjob easy available in regular stores and he does appear a lot in the trailers so likely a key character in the film so if missed out on the AoE release which obviously isn't in shops now (and was only sold in Toys R Us here in the UK back then) then I can understand the redecoed re-release there. Just the price hike on it is the annoying bit.
i hate the mold. and its not selling either. went to a tru and saw 14 of him.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:31am CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:i hate the mold. and its not selling either. went to a tru and saw 14 of him.
You hate it? I love it. I think it's a great figure and one of the best toys for any Dinobot ever and looks cool in both modes. I still have my AoE version and am just waiting for the TLK one to get price reduced.
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:34am CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
And made Hot Rod a wave 3 deluxe? That is a question no one can answer
and take out all the dinobots but scorn, because theres no reason for them to be there
Theres a great reason: the molds already exist. They are an easy way to beef up a toyline without increasing the development cost.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:35am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
And made Hot Rod a wave 3 deluxe? That is a question no one can answer
and take out all the dinobots but scorn, because theres no reason for them to be there
Theres a great reason: the molds already exist. They are an easy way to beef up a toyline without increasing the development cost.
that space couldve gone to new characters we arent gonna get from the movie
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:40am CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:that space couldve gone to new characters we arent gonna get from the movie
Not if the budget doesnt allow it. We have no clue if it could have or not, the sacrifices that we made, and so on. For instance we know that the only reason Combiner Wars was even a thing was because John Warden showed Hasbro how a bunch of characters could be obtained from small amount of molds and designs and thats why it was greenlit.
The only thing I feel confident in bitching about would be things like having different paint apps on Voyager Optimus. So a reorientation of the budget.
But saying we would like new toys instead of repaints is an old duscussion that has already been talked to death.
The truth is, if the space didnt go to repaints, it would have gone to no one.
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:i hate the mold. and its not selling either. went to a tru and saw 14 of him.
You hate it? I love it. I think it's a great figure and one of the best toys for any Dinobot ever and looks cool in both modes. I still have my AoE version and am just waiting for the TLK one to get price reduced.
Spoilers, that voyager Grimlock is on my upcoming top 5 list of best grimlock toys
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Spoilers, that voyager Grimlock is on my upcoming top 5 list of best grimlock toys
Grimlock pleased!
Posted by Seibertron on May 19th, 2017 @ 10:17am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I'd heard some rumors about a deluxe Bumblebee variant, so I took a look for myself and yep, there is one. Behold - launch day purchase on the left, today's purchase on the right:
You can see the black paint not only gets onto the roof, but portions of the rear of the vehicle as well.
In robot mode there's no difference that's really noticeable. The shades of yellow are my lighting setup being crappy/me being not great at pictures. Trust me on this, the yellows are the same despite what it might look like here!
However, when it's in the package, the roof pieces are left flat on the back. I've posed these oddly to show you how you can identify the variant in the store. The easiest way is to look at the rear piece, as the black "leaks through" a bit even when viewed from the front. The roof panel itself can be helpful in this but it isn't as reliable.
Given that the assortment codes are the same, I don't know of any other way to identify them while in the store, outside of being a total prick and opening the package in the aisle (do not do this.)
What about the imprinted codes on the box?
Posted by Evil Eye on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by Hanzako on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:00pm CDT
Posted by leokearon on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:07pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:10pm CDT
Hanzako wrote:We are not going to want a crumb of plastic whose knees don't even bend for ~$40.
Which figure are you talking about 'whose knees don't even bend'? :O
Posted by TFmonkeybiz on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:13pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
I wish they'd have skipped the repaints all together and given us a line of new moulds with more than three main line Decepticons.
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Hanzako wrote: the movies themselves are more focused towards an older generation of fans.
Which is odd since the older TF fans hate the films.
TFmonkeybiz wrote:I wish they'd have skipped the repaints all together and given us a line of new moulds with more than three main line Decepticons.
The wishing gate opens into nothing.
- Charles Haddon Spurgeon
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:25pm CDT
TFmonkeybiz wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Now why couldn't the paint have been added to the robot mode
Now why couldn't they have skipped the repaint and just release the brand new Deluxe in wave 1?
I wish they'd have skipped the repaints all together and given us a line of new moulds with more than three main line Decepticons.
Bumblebee's the only repaint that makes no sense to me since it's not even trying for movie accuracy unlike the Dinobots and has a brand new awesome looking figure being released later. Crosshairs and Drift looked like redecos at first but they're retooled. Barricade, Megatron, Hound, Sqweeks, Berserker, Steelbane, Scorn, Prime and new Bee are all new molds and those are all the known proper 'Generations' type TLK figures we know of so far. Certainly not been as repaint heavy as certain other TF lines yet.
(yeah I forgot the Leader Class figures cos their price and overly large size has me ignoring them anyways... Prime is old, Megatron is new)
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:34pm CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Bumblebee's the only repaint that makes no sense to me since it's not even trying for movie accuracy unlike the Dinobots and has a brand new awesome looking figure being released later.
It is the oddest choice, especially when Bee is reverting to an older body, and there are many other toys out there with a body looking more along the lines of that than the AOE mold.
Posted by Va'al on May 19th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by RAR on May 19th, 2017 @ 1:38pm CDT
I wonder if Bee had that 1960's Body before only with out the Carbon Fibre bits - and he was just revisiting it - like is implied that Optimus is re-visiting his old body too when he adopts the Knightly look.
So I wonder did they come up with the idea for both movies and then just carry on making them or did they make the knightly look for AOE - give it to some character and then when people mostly liked it - they decided to make the the entire theme of the next Movie.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 19th, 2017 @ 1:53pm CDT
leokearon wrote:So far none of the movie toys barring the Tiny Turbo Chargers have interested me. Thanks to the window and the list I got all 5 I wanted plus blackout who I got before I knew about the window and list and all for less than the price of one movie deluxe
Posted by BERSEKAEL on May 19th, 2017 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 19th, 2017 @ 9:24pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Bumblebee's the only repaint that makes no sense to me since it's not even trying for movie accuracy unlike the Dinobots and has a brand new awesome looking figure being released later.
It is the oddest choice, especially when Bee is reverting to an older body, and there are many other toys out there with a body looking more along the lines of that than the AOE mold.
Can any of the molds from the first trilogy even be used, Legions aside? O wait, never mind, that DotM Voyager Prime redeco.
Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2017 @ 10:55pm CDT
Maybe it was the most readily available of the preexisting Deluxe class Movieverse Bumblebee molds.william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Bumblebee's the only repaint that makes no sense to me since it's not even trying for movie accuracy unlike the Dinobots and has a brand new awesome looking figure being released later.
It is the oddest choice, especially when Bee is reverting to an older body, and there are many other toys out there with a body looking more along the lines of that than the AOE mold.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 19th, 2017 @ 11:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Maybe it was the most readily available of the preexisting Deluxe class Movieverse Bumblebee molds.william-james88 wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:
Bumblebee's the only repaint that makes no sense to me since it's not even trying for movie accuracy unlike the Dinobots and has a brand new awesome looking figure being released later.
It is the oddest choice, especially when Bee is reverting to an older body, and there are many other toys out there with a body looking more along the lines of that than the AOE mold.
As in the most recent, thus more accurate to the current Camaro model?
Posted by ScottyP on May 20th, 2017 @ 3:15pm CDT
Posted by Bumblebee21 on May 20th, 2017 @ 3:57pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on May 20th, 2017 @ 4:07pm CDT
Bumblebee21 wrote:does anyone want a bee toy that explodes and comes back by itself using magnets or something like that
*raises hand slowly*
Posted by william-james88 on May 22nd, 2017 @ 12:54pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on May 22nd, 2017 @ 1:18pm CDT
I remember seeing an image of Bee and Hot Rod together I'll have to track it down and post it here.
Posted by william-james88 on May 22nd, 2017 @ 1:19pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Might be part of a two pack since Bumblebee's "cgi" model is right above the box as opposed to say just Hot Rod like all the TLK deluxes thus far.
I remember seeing an image of Bee and Hot Rod together I'll have to track it down and post it here.
There is a link to that image in the article.
Posted by Overcracker on May 22nd, 2017 @ 1:29pm CDT
Never mind.
Posted by Deadput on May 22nd, 2017 @ 1:34pm CDT
Thanks for pointing that out!william-james88 wrote:Deadput wrote:Might be part of a two pack since Bumblebee's "cgi" model is right above the box as opposed to say just Hot Rod like all the TLK deluxes thus far.
I remember seeing an image of Bee and Hot Rod together I'll have to track it down and post it here.
There is a link to that image in the article.
Ah my habit of skimming articles and not reading twice once again catches me.
Posted by breacher on May 22nd, 2017 @ 3:36pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 22nd, 2017 @ 4:21pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on May 22nd, 2017 @ 4:31pm CDT
breacher wrote:I hope the 2 pack comes with the new mold bee, if so, I might actually pick it up. And, cmon, don't tease us like this. (If this is just another remold/repaint, I'm done. The line is already really small, and filled with repaints, you don't need to be this cheap Has/Tak)
Filled with repaints?
Not including the Legion class of course:
Let's see, Straight repaints: Deluxe Slash, Deluxe Slug, Deluxe Bumblebee and Voyager Grimlock, Leader Prime.
Retools: Deluxe Drift. Deluxe Crosshairs
100% New Molds: New Deluxe Bumblebee, Barricade, Beserker, Squeeks, Steelbane, Voyager Prime, Voyager Hound, Voyager Megatron, Voyager Scorn, Leader Megatron, Dragonstorm
Did I miss anything?
Likely to get new molds too: Cogman, Hot Rod. Several other characters seen in the trailer still up in the wind.
So far, 5 out of around 20 molds are straight repaints.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 22nd, 2017 @ 4:34pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:breacher wrote:I hope the 2 pack comes with the new mold bee, if so, I might actually pick it up. And, cmon, don't tease us like this. (If this is just another remold/repaint, I'm done. The line is already really small, and filled with repaints, you don't need to be this cheap Has/Tak)
Filled with repaints?
Not including the Legion class of course:
Let's see, Straight repaints: Deluxe Slash, Deluxe Slug, Deluxe Bumblebee and Voyager Grimlock, Leader Prime.
Retools: Deluxe Drift. Deluxe Crosshairs
100% New Molds: New Deluxe Bumblebee, Barricade, Beserker, Squeeks, Steelbane, Voyager Prime, Voyager Hound, Voyager Megatron, Voyager Scorn, Leader Megatron, Dragonstorm
Did I miss anything?
Likely to get new molds too: Cogman, Hot Rod. Several other characters seen in the trailer still up in the wind.
So far, 5 out of around 20 molds are straight repaints.
Don't forget the redder redeco of DotM Voyager Prime.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 22nd, 2017 @ 4:45pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Rod. Several other characters seen in the trailer still up in the wind.
So far, 5 out of around 20 molds are straight repaints.
The problem is that half of the "new" stuff on the shelves right now are repaints. Sold at a premium. THAT'S what is really annoying. Sure, we must give time to the factories to produce the actual new stuff, but still...
Posted by Overcracker on May 22nd, 2017 @ 4:46pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Overcracker wrote:breacher wrote:I hope the 2 pack comes with the new mold bee, if so, I might actually pick it up. And, cmon, don't tease us like this. (If this is just another remold/repaint, I'm done. The line is already really small, and filled with repaints, you don't need to be this cheap Has/Tak)
Filled with repaints?
Not including the Legion class of course:
Let's see, Straight repaints: Deluxe Slash, Deluxe Slug, Deluxe Bumblebee and Voyager Grimlock, Leader Prime.
Retools: Deluxe Drift. Deluxe Crosshairs
100% New Molds: New Deluxe Bumblebee, Barricade, Beserker, Squeeks, Steelbane, Voyager Prime, Voyager Hound, Voyager Megatron, Voyager Scorn, Leader Megatron, Dragonstorm
Did I miss anything?
Likely to get new molds too: Cogman, Hot Rod. Several other characters seen in the trailer still up in the wind.
So far, 5 out of around 20 molds are straight repaints.
Don't forget the redder redeco of DotM Voyager Prime.
Has that been confirmed as part of the general TLK line? and not some exclusive one shot for a store or something like that?