Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked

Sunday, February 5th, 2023 10:32am CST

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Thanks to JT Prime we have a breakdown of the Legacy Toys coming out for the rest of the year. This shows us the month they are meant for release, which characters are getting repacked and which ones are getting shortpacked. For instance, we see here that Bludgeon will be shortpacked. And we now see that Axelgraese is indeed the upcoming deluxe car Junkion we've seen on the poster.

This is not spread bad news, but otherwise to give you a heads up as to which toy you should probably preorder instead of waiting to find in stores, since online places like BBTS or Hasbro Pulse may get solid cases instead of the assortment cases shown below, which end up at Walmart and Target.

Also PR means package refresh, these are toys from previous lines that are rereleased in this line.
So, based on what we see below, which will you be getting?

Wave 3: July

Core:
Skar x2
Swoop x2
Starscream PR x2
Grimlock x2

Deluxe:
Beachcomber x2
Devcon x2
Axelgreese x2
Tarantulas PR x2

Voyager:
Nemesis Leo x2
Dirge PR x1

Leader:
Armada Megatron x1
Blitzwing PR x1

Wave 4: October

Core:
Snarl x2
Optimus Prime PR x2
Sludge x2
Slug x2

Deluxe:
Shadowstriker x2
Strongarm x2
Bombshell x2
Detritus x2

Voyager:
Junkion x2
Bludgeon x1

Leader:
Prime Dreadwing x1
Laser Optimus Prime PR x1

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Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155274)
Posted by william-james88 on February 5th, 2023 @ 10:59am CST

o.supreme wrote:The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

I think this will be a bigger junkion weaponizer to go with the rest of this year's gimmick

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155275)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 5th, 2023 @ 11:46am CST

william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:The Voyager Junkion in wave 4 is interesting. I would think it would be another character from TF:TM, but then I'd think it would be in SS, unless it was slotted in L:E because SS was too full? On the other hand, if this is another made up Junkion/ weaponizer perhaps this is the "team leader", and much like the Stunticons, we will get the 5th and final member in wave 1 2024?

I think this will be a bigger junkion weaponizer to go with the rest of this year's gimmick

I certainly hope so, the junkions look to be fantastic frol what we've seen so far

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155277)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:09pm CST

I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155278)
Posted by wolverinetodd on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:09pm CST

So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer? If so, it better come with some accessories for it to run the same price as Rumble. He at least included his pile drivers.

Also, Core Class Sludge and Slag are listed, but not showing PR after them. They've already been released. Or are these in G2 colors?

Update: Never mind. PR means package refresh of figures from OTHER LINES. I was thinking OTHER WAVES of SAME LINE. My bad.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155279)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:21pm CST

Beachcomber, Bludgeon and Armada Megatron will most likely be purchases.

Hopefully they do Megatron right. Both Hotshot and Starscream have been only adequate so far.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155280)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:29pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:He has a combiner peg?

And "Mena-cons?" You mean Stunticons? Their official name?

Nope. But he has a perfectly centered 5mm peg. And one of the designers hinted on Twitter in response to a leg mode picture that there was more to that than just speculation.

Hmm I'm sure those adept at kitbashing can make it work. Looks pretty good. A junkion combiner would have been a good idea.

Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.

Do you mean Slag?

You can call them whatever you like, I was just a little confused, because I don't think they were referred to as Stunticons even on official packaging, now that I think about it.

As for the combined form, I'm also a bit disappointed, but I don't blame anyone else. I saw photos and reviews and still bought them. But they do look better separate than combined.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155281)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:31pm CST

wolverinetodd wrote:So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer?

No. Skar is the sixth Dinobot needed to finish the Core class Dinobot combiner.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155283)
Posted by King Kuuga on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:42pm CST

So here's the things that appeal to me from this leak:
Axelgreese, Armada Megs, Shadowstriker, Strongarm, voyager Junkion, and maybe Dreadwing (but I still think I mostly want that mold as G1 Skyquake)

I initially had Skar on my list but then I stopped to think about it. I had at first assumed this was a remake of Doubledealer's bat Powermaster in the vein of SS Rumble (Blue), but then I noticed that we don't have a listing for our last Dinobot, and Skar has also been used as a name for a Dynobot in IDW, however briefly. So that leads me to believe that Skar is the ankylosaurus dinobot for Volcanicus. Thus the distribution would be:
W1: Slug, Sludge
W2: Grimlock
W3: Swoop, Skar
W4: Snarl

And of course as this list shows we've got rereleases of figures in later waves so:
Wave 1: 3x Slug, 3 x Sludge
wave 2: 2x Grimlock
wave 3: 2x Skar, 2x Swoop, 2x Grimlock
Wave 4: 2x Snarl, 2x Sludge, 2x Slug

They're going to make sure get Slug and Sludge if you missed them the first time around. Waves 3 and 4 will be dominated by Dinobots.

Really wondering when we're going to see info about Dinoking.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155285)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:48pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
wolverinetodd wrote:So is Skar the mini-bat that merges with Double Dealer?
No. Skar is the sixth Dinobot needed to finish the Core class Dinobot combiner.

You're both correct technically. The Dynobot Skar is a simple name reuse from the IDW comics (based on Dinobot names starting with "S"), but he was nothing more than a tragic plot device

He'll be the Ankylosaurus of this new group, if the Dinoking setup still holds true.

And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155288)
Posted by King Kuuga on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:57pm CST

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

I'm out of the loop, what's wrong with Sludge's head?

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155289)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 5th, 2023 @ 12:59pm CST

King Kuuga wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:And he's coming a lot sooner than expected. Curiously Slug and Sludge are getting re-releases, I hope they address Sludge's Dino head detailing with that.

I'm out of the loop, what's wrong with Sludge's head?

It's hard to notice, but the detailing on the snout is asymmetric, the measurements for each half were slightly off when the mold was cut it seems.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155291)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 5th, 2023 @ 1:17pm CST

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

If you're fine with just the TR,it's all right. But the new voyager is much more G1 accurate. Plus if you love Cyclonus's transformation, we get the same magic here.

For me, I want them all.

Too bad I slept on Botcon Metalhawk all those years because he's now definitely nope'd priced.
As for the OG G1, it's just a pipe dream. Even if I'd be a millionaire, finding one that is 100% complete is a near impossibility.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155293)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 5th, 2023 @ 1:26pm CST

I recently got the Movie Advanced AoE Hound, Special Army Camo version. I remember how great of a mold that toy is and that deco is just perfect. Far superior to the original release.

Now before anyone tell me I'm in the wrong thread, here's the Wreck N Rule Legacy Bulkhead.

Same overall proportions. Same overall looks. Same colors. Same love for weapons.

And the exact same vehicle mode.

Surprisingly, Bulkhead is bigger than Hound.

Same vehicle, same deco, same love for weapons.

So, yeah. For me, Legacy Bulkhead have absolutely nothing to do with the Prime Universe. He's the "geewunification" of AoE Hound. Those two are the same character in two different universes. It's just perfect!

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155302)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on February 5th, 2023 @ 4:45pm CST

Forgot about Devcon, will likely get depending on ho it turns out as I liked the art depicting him.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155307)
Posted by Flashwave on February 5th, 2023 @ 5:39pm CST

Hoping they rerun Dead End, I still need him and Breakdown.

Detritus? I wonder if Earthmode Hound redeco or Siege? I hope the latter so I can use Earth Hound and have some variation.

Wonder what Devcon will look like.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

Same, mostly. I prefer the brighter yellow on this one for sure to the dark gold, and I think I just overall prefer his spaceship mode to the F15, even though an earth mode fits more for what I want to do with him. I am also not a fan of how much light grey is peeking through and how narrow the cockpit is. But I am planning on getting him in and I expect I will like it a lot in person.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155308)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on February 5th, 2023 @ 5:48pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got my Legacy Breakdown and Scraphook today, which is pretty fun considering I only just ordered them Thursday night from Pulse.

Breakdown is breakdown, nothing really exciting. The best thing I did with him was throw him onto Menasor as a back calf. 3 of the 5 Mena-cons really did turn out pretty mediocre. The combiner itself is nice, but the latter 3 cons kinda made me like him less. I actually almost prefer him without the leg bots, and Dead End just does not look good on the arm like Dragstrip does. He's nice, and better than CW, but he's still a bit disappointing.

Perhaps he'd look better with CW Dead End, Wildrider, and Breakdown instead? There are some options for shoulder adapters out there (one on Shapeways, and a print-your-own on Cults3D).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Scraphook is really awesome, I love his highly greebled scrappy design, and the colors in hand are ace. He is so much fun, and his truck mode is rad too. He is great, highlight of the wave so far for me. He also makes a cool leg

I think people are now obligated to make a connector add-on for him.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I'm very much content with TR Metalhawk...anybody else?

Eh, IMO the only thing TR's got over Legacy is you wouldn't need aftermarket parts to swap the faceplate onto the PotP Prime Master.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155314)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 5th, 2023 @ 6:25pm CST

Rodimus Prime wrote:
Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.
Do you mean Slag?

Yep. Funny enough, in the time I have been in the fandom, he has always been Slug. So for me, he is and will always be Slug.

As for Hound, i had the same idea months ago, including giving him Red Cog's entire arsenal.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155315)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 5th, 2023 @ 6:44pm CST

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Mena-cons was a name I typed by mistake, but I liked it. You don't always have to type the official name, as seen with a certain Dinobot in this wave of figures.
Do you mean Slag?

Yep. Funny enough, in the time I have been in the fandom, he has always been Slug. So for me, he is and will always be Slug.

As for Hound, i had the same idea months ago, including giving him Red Cog's entire arsenal.

I class him as Slug now as well, despite knowing his previous name for years. Thing is, I can't fully remember when he was even renamed. I know IDW did a skit with it in their Dark Cybertron event back in 2014ish.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155316)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 5th, 2023 @ 6:49pm CST

ZeroWolf wrote:I class him as Slug now as well, despite knowing his previous name for years. Thing is, I can't fully remember when he was even renamed. I know IDW did a skit with it in their Dark Cybertron event back in 2014ish.

I think Animated was the first, they named the triceratops "Snarl". Not sure if anything before that started the trend away.

And since then, IDW, FOC, the movies, Cyberverse, PotP, SS86, and Legacy have all used Slug. I think the Slug might outnumber the Slag now in terms of toys and fictional appearances.

Re: Case Breakdown for Legacy Evolution Waves 3 and 4 Show What will be Rereleased and Shortpacked (2155317)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 5th, 2023 @ 7:08pm CST