Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs
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A part of Transformers One that a lot of fans have rallied behind is the handling of the 13 Primes and turning them into legendary heroes, along with their new designs. Fans have wanted a better look at them, since the movie rarely gave a clear shot of them, and now we have a great look at Micronus and Quintus. These character models are on cards though its unclear if these cards are physical or digital. We also have a screenshot of the thirteen from the film with their names labelled.
Hopefully we see more of these cards and maybe even get the toys one day.
Hopefully we see more of these cards and maybe even get the toys one day.
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Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184480)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 24th, 2024 @ 5:02pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 24th, 2024 @ 5:02pm CDT
I wonder if we'll ever get toys from these Primes? In the SS line, of course.
The first step would be to have a decent voyager class Studio Series Alpha Trion.
The first step would be to have a decent voyager class Studio Series Alpha Trion.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184483)
Posted by Glyph on September 24th, 2024 @ 5:26pm CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 24th, 2024 @ 5:26pm CDT
There are definitely days where you type out a whole thing and then think better of it.
Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline? Seems like a good opportunity to do some synergy. TBH the 13 have always been a part of TF lore that I find spectacularly uninteresting, but I will still be curious to see how they handle the subline (comparing to the POTP microfigs, at least).
Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline? Seems like a good opportunity to do some synergy. TBH the 13 have always been a part of TF lore that I find spectacularly uninteresting, but I will still be curious to see how they handle the subline (comparing to the POTP microfigs, at least).
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184484)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 24th, 2024 @ 5:47pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 24th, 2024 @ 5:47pm CDT
See here.Glyph wrote:Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline? Seems like a good opportunity to do some synergy.
It isn't a subline. It's the next main line after Legacy United.Glyph wrote:TBH the 13 have always been a part of TF lore that I find spectacularly uninteresting, but I will still be curious to see how they handle the subline (comparing to the POTP microfigs, at least).
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184485)
Posted by Glyph on September 24th, 2024 @ 6:01pm CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 24th, 2024 @ 6:01pm CDT
Cheers, I really meant design-wise rather than whether they get figures at all. I don't keep up with all the toy news so don't know whether we have any info on TF:One synergy. But I presume since they run from Deluxe up to Leader that they will get some proper designs of their own!Sabrblade wrote:See here.Glyph wrote:Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline?
Yeah OK, I stand corrected. That's splitting hairs even for youSabrblade wrote:It isn't a subline. It's the next main line after Legacy United.Glyph wrote:the subline
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184486)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 24th, 2024 @ 6:17pm CDT
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 24th, 2024 @ 6:17pm CDT
Regardless of what future toys this portends, that pic of Quintus reaffirms my decision to hold on to good ol' Alpha Q. Was there ever any proposed fiction that might have repuruposed said Energon toy into Quintus Prime, ala Protoform Op into Prima?
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184487)
Posted by JazZeke on September 24th, 2024 @ 6:47pm CDT
Some things are best left shrouded in the mystery of mythology, and the Thirteen Primes are definitely one of those things (see also: the pre-Hartnell live of the Doctor from Doctor Who). Any time Hasbro has tried to flesh out the Primes, they lose their enigma.
Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.
Posted by JazZeke on September 24th, 2024 @ 6:47pm CDT
Glyph wrote:There are definitely days where you type out a whole thing and then think better of it.
Anyway, the Primes. Do we know if this will be feeding into the Age of the Primes toyline? Seems like a good opportunity to do some synergy. TBH the 13 have always been a part of TF lore that I find spectacularly uninteresting, but I will still be curious to see how they handle the subline (comparing to the POTP microfigs, at least).
Some things are best left shrouded in the mystery of mythology, and the Thirteen Primes are definitely one of those things (see also: the pre-Hartnell live of the Doctor from Doctor Who). Any time Hasbro has tried to flesh out the Primes, they lose their enigma.
Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184488)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 24th, 2024 @ 7:07pm CDT
But this time around, it wasn't Megatronus the traitor, but the usual suspect.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 24th, 2024 @ 7:07pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.
But this time around, it wasn't Megatronus the traitor, but the usual suspect.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184489)
Posted by JazZeke on September 24th, 2024 @ 7:15pm CDT
Megatronus' final thought:
Posted by JazZeke on September 24th, 2024 @ 7:15pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:JazZeke wrote:Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.
But this time around, it wasn't Megatronus the traitor, but the usual suspect.
Megatronus' final thought:
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184490)
Posted by Glyph on September 24th, 2024 @ 7:22pm CDT
Dangit, I wish the forums had a Like button.
Posted by Glyph on September 24th, 2024 @ 7:22pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:Some things are best left shrouded in the mystery of mythology, and the Thirteen Primes are definitely one of those things (see also: the pre-Hartnell live of the Doctor from Doctor Who). Any time Hasbro has tried to flesh out the Primes, they lose their enigma.
Case in point: The Fallen, starting out as the mysterious powerful Judas sporting a Satanic flame motif, and gradually evolving into "Megatronus," the incel of the group who betrayed them because the chick Prime friendzoned him.
Dangit, I wish the forums had a Like button.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184496)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 25th, 2024 @ 10:54am CDT
I do have some mixed feelings about the thirteen in this movie, but that may just be because I expected to see what we've seen in other continuities. Spoilers below.
I really loved their designs (especially my boy Vector Prime). I liked that they were legendary heroes. I loved the portrayal of the one we see, Alpha Trion. And more than anything, I loved that Optimus was not a reincarnate of the thirteenth prime.
What I did not like: Primarily, that the Thirteenth were so recent. I love the 13 being ancient entities, rather than ones that were dispatched not all that long ago. I don't like that Sentinel was an outsider, I've always liked the "one of the thirteen betrayed the others" story. Making "Sentinel" actually be The Fallen/Megatronus or Leige Maximo (the Prime known for lying) could have remedied this. Lastly, I've always liked the Greek God-esque "Each Prime has their thing" (Prima is the leader, Vector has time and space, Trion is the storytellers, etc.) While their are elements of this in the movie (Megatronus is said to be the strongest, Alhpa Trion tells a story, Onyx resembles an animal and Micronus is small), they don't seem to be leaning into it. For example, Onyx is traditionally the beast former, but Alpha Trion turns into a beast as well. Additionally, he tells a story but doesn't seem to be known as a storyteller.
I do wonder about Quintus Prime and his relation to the Quintessons, if there is any.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 25th, 2024 @ 10:54am CDT
william-james88 wrote:A part of Transformers One that a lot of fans have rallied behind is the handling of the 13 Primes and turning them into legendary heroes, along with their new designs.
I do have some mixed feelings about the thirteen in this movie, but that may just be because I expected to see what we've seen in other continuities. Spoilers below.
I really loved their designs (especially my boy Vector Prime). I liked that they were legendary heroes. I loved the portrayal of the one we see, Alpha Trion. And more than anything, I loved that Optimus was not a reincarnate of the thirteenth prime.
What I did not like: Primarily, that the Thirteenth were so recent. I love the 13 being ancient entities, rather than ones that were dispatched not all that long ago. I don't like that Sentinel was an outsider, I've always liked the "one of the thirteen betrayed the others" story. Making "Sentinel" actually be The Fallen/Megatronus or Leige Maximo (the Prime known for lying) could have remedied this. Lastly, I've always liked the Greek God-esque "Each Prime has their thing" (Prima is the leader, Vector has time and space, Trion is the storytellers, etc.) While their are elements of this in the movie (Megatronus is said to be the strongest, Alhpa Trion tells a story, Onyx resembles an animal and Micronus is small), they don't seem to be leaning into it. For example, Onyx is traditionally the beast former, but Alpha Trion turns into a beast as well. Additionally, he tells a story but doesn't seem to be known as a storyteller.
I do wonder about Quintus Prime and his relation to the Quintessons, if there is any.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184497)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 25th, 2024 @ 11:21am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 25th, 2024 @ 11:21am CDT
Might just be me, but I still have no interest or dis-interest in transformers one. 13 Primes has never been a thing for me either, totally lost on me. Cool robot toys are always good, so there is that.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184499)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2024 @ 11:29am CDT
Looking at other uses of it, Simon Furman defined 1 cycle as being 1 hour and 15 minutes (1.25 hours) in IDW1 comics, the Marvel UK story "Target: 2006" identified 10 cycles as being 5 Earth days (which would make 1 cycle = 12 Earth hours), Brian Ruckley said 1 cycle is 1 day (but shorter than an Earth day) for IDW2, and the Dreamwave Energon comics used "cycles" to refer to "years".
Going by all of that, the Energon comics' usage feels the closest to this movie's use of "cycle", as we also know it can't be the Cybertronian word for "day" since D-16 uses the word "day" in the same context as it's used by us Earth humans.
However, my inner nerd still feels that only 50 years isn't nearly long enough. We need a length of time long enough not just for the Primes to disappear but also for the collective memory of the entire population of Iacon City to completely forget that miners were ever born with cogs, as well as enough time for the mining industry to really take off become a fully integrated part of Cybertron's society to the point that it doesn't feel like some new development at all.
At minimum, I'd say 1 cycle in this movie's universe should equal no less than 1 decade, meaning 50 cycles would be 5 centuries. Or if we want to go bigger, 1 cycle could be 1 century, making the 50 cycles be 5000 years. That sure seems big enough.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, it was probably just meant to be "years" (I'm sticking with "cycle = decade" until we get official word on the matter).
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2024 @ 11:29am CDT
Yeah, every time the movie mentioned "cycle" took me out of it for a bit. Probably the most famous uses of "cycle" before now were in Beast Wars and Animated, in which it was roughly the equivalent of one minute. Going by that, the Primes have only been gone for less than an hour.#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:What I did not like: Primarily, that the Thirteenth were so recent. I love the 13 being ancient entities, rather than ones that were dispatched not all that long ago.
Looking at other uses of it, Simon Furman defined 1 cycle as being 1 hour and 15 minutes (1.25 hours) in IDW1 comics, the Marvel UK story "Target: 2006" identified 10 cycles as being 5 Earth days (which would make 1 cycle = 12 Earth hours), Brian Ruckley said 1 cycle is 1 day (but shorter than an Earth day) for IDW2, and the Dreamwave Energon comics used "cycles" to refer to "years".
Going by all of that, the Energon comics' usage feels the closest to this movie's use of "cycle", as we also know it can't be the Cybertronian word for "day" since D-16 uses the word "day" in the same context as it's used by us Earth humans.
However, my inner nerd still feels that only 50 years isn't nearly long enough. We need a length of time long enough not just for the Primes to disappear but also for the collective memory of the entire population of Iacon City to completely forget that miners were ever born with cogs, as well as enough time for the mining industry to really take off become a fully integrated part of Cybertron's society to the point that it doesn't feel like some new development at all.
At minimum, I'd say 1 cycle in this movie's universe should equal no less than 1 decade, meaning 50 cycles would be 5 centuries. Or if we want to go bigger, 1 cycle could be 1 century, making the 50 cycles be 5000 years. That sure seems big enough.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, it was probably just meant to be "years" (I'm sticking with "cycle = decade" until we get official word on the matter).
I mean, it still rather fits with most other depictions of Sentinel Prime being jerks and false Primes:#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:I don't like that Sentinel was an outsider, I've always liked the "one of the thirteen betrayed the others" story. Making "Sentinel" actually be The Fallen/Megatronus or Leige Maximo (the Prime known for lying) could have remedied this.
- IDW1 Sentinel Prime: eventually revealed to have been a straight-up fascist.
- Animated Sentinel Prime: a selfish, arrogant bully who worked his way to the top and tried to seize power for himself.
- DOTM Sentinel Prime: struck a deal with Megatron to enslave humanity, believing Cybertronian life was the superior race.
- Aligned Sentinel Zeta Prime: Probably the most decent of these flawed Sentinels, but was never a true Prime to begin with, having been installed as a puppet ruler by the Quintessons before he led the revolt against them. He tried his best to run Cybertron but faced many challenges in the process, challenges that left marks on his reputation in the eyes of the public. Most notably, he continued to enforce the caste system that had left Cybertron society unjust and unequal.
I feel like most of this might have been left deliberately vague and unexplored in this movie in order to either let sequel films explore them better, or to let the mystery and enigmatic intrigue of the Thirteen remain mysterious and mythical.#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:Lastly, I've always liked the Greek God-esque "Each Prime has their thing" (Prima is the leader, Vector has time and space, Trion is the storytellers, etc.) While their are elements of this in the movie (Megatronus is said to be the strongest, Alhpa Trion tells a story, Onyx resembles an animal and Micronus is small), they don't seem to be leaning into it. For example, Onyx is traditionally the beast former, but Alpha Trion turns into a beast as well. Additionally, he tells a story but doesn't seem to be known as a storyteller.
I do wonder about Quintus Prime and his relation to the Quintessons, if there is any.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184500)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2024 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2024 @ 12:33pm CDT
In addition to the above, there's these:william-james88 wrote:A part of Transformers One that a lot of fans have rallied behind is the handling of the 13 Primes and turning them into legendary heroes, along with their new designs. Fans have wanted a better look at them, since the movie rarely gave a clear shot of them, and now we have a great look at Micronus and Quintus. These character models are on cards though its unclear if these cards are physical or digital. We also have a screenshot of the thirteen from the film with their names labelled.
Hopefully we see more of these cards and maybe even get the toys one day.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184501)
Posted by william-james88 on September 25th, 2024 @ 1:46pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 25th, 2024 @ 1:46pm CDT
The past week-end was disappointing for Transformers One at the box office. As many Hollywood pundits have said, it's unfortunate that a film that had such a great reception did so poorly. Especially when this is in the same brand where films that were panned by critics and fans made over a billion dollars.
All this just goes for domestic numbers because the film has yet to open on major markets internationally (like China and the UK). Now that the week-end is done, we know that the international markets it did open in(which includes the Philippines, Vietnam and Mexico) added $14M to the global box office, making Transformers One's total nearing the $40M mark. We will see if the good word of mouth will have an impact on this upcoming week-end's numbers.
Speaking of that word of mouth, it really is something else. The audience score on Rotten Tomatoes (verified reviewers) is 98%. Not only that but we even have Kojima's blessing. For those not in the know, Hideo Kojima is one of the most celebrated game designers of all time. He is behind the Metal Gear Solid franchise and offers his quick reviews on Twitter. For this film, he said it reminded him of X-Men First Class, which is his favorite X-Men film. You can see the tweet here.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYEdVr1aUAAUEZ7?format=jpg&name=large
All this just goes for domestic numbers because the film has yet to open on major markets internationally (like China and the UK). Now that the week-end is done, we know that the international markets it did open in(which includes the Philippines, Vietnam and Mexico) added $14M to the global box office, making Transformers One's total nearing the $40M mark. We will see if the good word of mouth will have an impact on this upcoming week-end's numbers.
Speaking of that word of mouth, it really is something else. The audience score on Rotten Tomatoes (verified reviewers) is 98%. Not only that but we even have Kojima's blessing. For those not in the know, Hideo Kojima is one of the most celebrated game designers of all time. He is behind the Metal Gear Solid franchise and offers his quick reviews on Twitter. For this film, he said it reminded him of X-Men First Class, which is his favorite X-Men film. You can see the tweet here.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYEdVr1aUAAUEZ7?format=jpg&name=large
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184502)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 25th, 2024 @ 1:48pm CDT
Yeah, I definitely feel like a century would make the most sense. Like you said, it would have to be long enough for everyone to forget that miners were born without t-cogs. So, unless there was some memory-wiping happening, Sentinel would need to be the oldest living Transformer in Iacon.
Oh yeah, its definitely in character for Sentinel. I just mean I like the idea of a traitor being from within the thirteen rather than an outsider (in this case, their assistant.)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 25th, 2024 @ 1:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:At minimum, I'd say 1 cycle in this movie's universe should equal no less than 1 decade, meaning 50 cycles would be 5 centuries. Or if we want to go bigger, 1 cycle could be 1 century, making the 50 cycles be 5000 years. That sure seems big enough.
Buuuuuuuuuuuuut, it was probably just meant to be "years" (I'm sticking with "cycle = decade" until we get official word on the matter).
Yeah, I definitely feel like a century would make the most sense. Like you said, it would have to be long enough for everyone to forget that miners were born without t-cogs. So, unless there was some memory-wiping happening, Sentinel would need to be the oldest living Transformer in Iacon.
Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it still rather fits with most other depictions of Sentinel Prime being jerks and false Primes
Oh yeah, its definitely in character for Sentinel. I just mean I like the idea of a traitor being from within the thirteen rather than an outsider (in this case, their assistant.)
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184503)
Posted by Glyph on September 25th, 2024 @ 2:20pm CDT
Interesting that there seem to be at least 4 sets of these - the Primes cards are (unsurprisingly) numbered 0xx/013; Chromia, Sideswipe and (presumably) Sunstreaker are numbered 0xx/045; Ironhide 0xx/035; and the Gold Tracker(?) is 0xx/019. The various Autobots all appear to be on holo/foil cards, and the Gold Tracker is possibly lenticular?
Different sets of pack-ins or collectable cards sold separately? (If any of the Chinese text on the cards explains this, I unfortunately can't read it.)
Posted by Glyph on September 25th, 2024 @ 2:20pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:*images of character cards*
Interesting that there seem to be at least 4 sets of these - the Primes cards are (unsurprisingly) numbered 0xx/013; Chromia, Sideswipe and (presumably) Sunstreaker are numbered 0xx/045; Ironhide 0xx/035; and the Gold Tracker(?) is 0xx/019. The various Autobots all appear to be on holo/foil cards, and the Gold Tracker is possibly lenticular?
Different sets of pack-ins or collectable cards sold separately? (If any of the Chinese text on the cards explains this, I unfortunately can't read it.)
Cough, cough#1 Signal Lancer fan & Sabrblade wrote:A whole bunch of stuff in spoiler tags
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184504)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 25th, 2024 @ 2:24pm CDT
Oh yeah, I know there's a spoiler thread and have posted there. I was just discussing the above conversation here because it was directly related to the current conversation in this thread.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 25th, 2024 @ 2:24pm CDT
Glyph wrote:Cough, cough
Oh yeah, I know there's a spoiler thread and have posted there. I was just discussing the above conversation here because it was directly related to the current conversation in this thread.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184510)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 25th, 2024 @ 7:38pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 25th, 2024 @ 7:38pm CDT
Despite the low theatrical turnout, I'm sure TF1 will be a cult classic that will make its money in the long run.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184511)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 25th, 2024 @ 8:09pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 25th, 2024 @ 8:09pm CDT
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184514)
Posted by SkyFire Prime on September 25th, 2024 @ 9:09pm CDT
Posted by SkyFire Prime on September 25th, 2024 @ 9:09pm CDT
It's criminal what that first trailer did to damage TFONE, it's THE best Transformers Movie period. And I'm including 86 and all the live action movies. It's also just a great movie. And In desperately want a sequel, and for this to be the begining of solid universal cannon.
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Posted by cloudballoon on September 25th, 2024 @ 10:18pm CDT
I wonder about the real effects of the 1st trailer for "fans" vs. the non-fans though. I'd bet the people that most vehemently against the 1st trailer are those "fans" that only care for a TF media presented to them "their way" and just plain refuse to try and/or support anything too different from what they hope for.
The non-fans proabably just care whether trailer(s) show them if there's enough appeal for kids but got enough plot for the adults to also have a good time. And on that, I think the 1st trailer was... fine? At least that's what I think why the 1st trailer is too saturated wiht jokes.
Posted by cloudballoon on September 25th, 2024 @ 10:18pm CDT
SkyFire Prime wrote:It's criminal what that first trailer did to damage TFONE, it's THE best Transformers Movie period. And I'm including 86 and all the live action movies. It's also just a great movie. And In desperately want a sequel, and for this to be the begining of solid universal cannon.
I wonder about the real effects of the 1st trailer for "fans" vs. the non-fans though. I'd bet the people that most vehemently against the 1st trailer are those "fans" that only care for a TF media presented to them "their way" and just plain refuse to try and/or support anything too different from what they hope for.
The non-fans proabably just care whether trailer(s) show them if there's enough appeal for kids but got enough plot for the adults to also have a good time. And on that, I think the 1st trailer was... fine? At least that's what I think why the 1st trailer is too saturated wiht jokes.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184518)
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:40am CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:40am CDT
More character cards, from Xitter:
Hound (miner), Ironhide (miner), Arcee (miner)
Thundercracker, Skywarp
Arcee, Wheeljack
Release announcement(?), also shows several other types
(ETA: Ah, I see Protoman has a podcast out now about them as well - added & updated a couple more pictures below from that video)
These all appear to be a line from Kayou trading cards, who already did some previous Transformers sets. Poster says they're already out in China, but they don't seem to be on Kayou's official site yet (am looking for a direct link).
Hound (miner), Ironhide (miner), Arcee (miner)
Thundercracker, Skywarp
Arcee, Wheeljack
Release announcement(?), also shows several other types
(ETA: Ah, I see Protoman has a podcast out now about them as well - added & updated a couple more pictures below from that video)
These all appear to be a line from Kayou trading cards, who already did some previous Transformers sets. Poster says they're already out in China, but they don't seem to be on Kayou's official site yet (am looking for a direct link).
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184519)
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:49am CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:49am CDT
So if I'm understanding this right, there seems to be at least 10 sets within the TFO01 range (11 card styles seen so far):
SR x 45 - Static poses of bots in their miner forms
SSR x 35 - Action poses of upgraded forms
TP x 13 - The Primes
SE x ?? - Special Edition, signed voice actor cards
XR x 4 - Main cast upgraded form, metal art cards
UR x 17 - Upgraded bot & alt form
UR* x 10 - Upgraded bot & alt form, fancier backgrounds
SHR x 6 - Lenticular cards showing transformations
HR x 19 - More lenticular(?) cards with background characters? Includes the Gold Tracker card above
Also 2 different styles in the bottom left of the promo image that don't seem to match any of the others above but aren't specifically listed.
(Attached new images from Protoman video here as the post above hit its limit... Ugh, wish I could post to a gallery instead. If any mods need to tidy this up, feel free)
SR x 45 - Static poses of bots in their miner forms
SSR x 35 - Action poses of upgraded forms
TP x 13 - The Primes
SE x ?? - Special Edition, signed voice actor cards
XR x 4 - Main cast upgraded form, metal art cards
UR x 17 - Upgraded bot & alt form
UR* x 10 - Upgraded bot & alt form, fancier backgrounds
SHR x 6 - Lenticular cards showing transformations
HR x 19 - More lenticular(?) cards with background characters? Includes the Gold Tracker card above
Also 2 different styles in the bottom left of the promo image that don't seem to match any of the others above but aren't specifically listed.
(Attached new images from Protoman video here as the post above hit its limit... Ugh, wish I could post to a gallery instead. If any mods need to tidy this up, feel free)
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184520)
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 3:58am CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 3:58am CDT
(testing, don't mind me)
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184521)
Posted by Big Grim on September 26th, 2024 @ 5:29am CDT
Posted by Big Grim on September 26th, 2024 @ 5:29am CDT
While the trailers didn't wow me, I figured I'd see it eventually, feeling it was a bit more for the kids(which is 100% fine. It's toys. It brings more people to the franchise.) but the reviews and word of mouth have me much more interested now. I WAS shocked to see it's no out in the UK for another two weeks though! That's bananas!
~ Grim
~ Grim
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184522)
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2024 @ 8:13am CDT
Sounds like a Kayou card set, yep! HR cards are lenticular and in past sets have typically been (roughly) one per pack. They're generally made more like thin credit cards than the rest. SHR is the same thing but with a much smaller number distributed randomly.
And when I say "distributed randomly" with Kayou sets, whoo boy, is it ever. I don't recommend anyone trying to complete their sets. You could do it with 12 boxes (90 cards per box plus a random box topper), or it could take 30. Or 7. Or 50. Or 100
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2024 @ 8:13am CDT
Glyph wrote:So if I'm understanding this right, there seems to be at least 10 sets within the TFO01 range (11 card styles seen so far):
SR x 45 - Static poses of bots in their miner forms
SSR x 35 - Action poses of upgraded forms
TP x 13 - The Primes
SE x ?? - Special Edition, signed voice actor cards
XR x 4 - Main cast upgraded form, metal art cards
UR x 17 - Upgraded bot & alt form
UR* x 10 - Upgraded bot & alt form, fancier backgrounds
SHR x 6 - Lenticular cards showing transformations
HR x 19 - More lenticular(?) cards with background characters? Includes the Gold Tracker card above
Sounds like a Kayou card set, yep! HR cards are lenticular and in past sets have typically been (roughly) one per pack. They're generally made more like thin credit cards than the rest. SHR is the same thing but with a much smaller number distributed randomly.
And when I say "distributed randomly" with Kayou sets, whoo boy, is it ever. I don't recommend anyone trying to complete their sets. You could do it with 12 boxes (90 cards per box plus a random box topper), or it could take 30. Or 7. Or 50. Or 100
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184523)
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 8:18am CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 26th, 2024 @ 8:18am CDT
Ah, cheers - trading cards are a closed book to me. And likely to remain so at an estimated $35 per box times however many it might take... 
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184524)
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2024 @ 8:26am CDT
Edit: I think I found the TF One boxes here: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807604521125.html Roughly $15 per box if you buy the thing of 4 boxes. Only 50 cards per box in these though, blegh. Not sure what the significance of the different characters on the box is.
Posted by ScottyP on September 26th, 2024 @ 8:26am CDT
If you get them on Aliexpress they're much cheaper, especially if you get several boxes at once. Anywhere from $11-15 per box, usually. I don't think this set is up there yet? Might be and I just don't see it from a quick scan over the "Kayou Transformers" results page. They have a lot of product now - RotB set, 3 pan-generational sets (mostly G1), various promo things, and now TF One product.Glyph wrote:Ah, cheers - trading cards are a closed book to me. And likely to remain so at an estimated $35 per box times however many it might take...
Edit: I think I found the TF One boxes here: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807604521125.html Roughly $15 per box if you buy the thing of 4 boxes. Only 50 cards per box in these though, blegh. Not sure what the significance of the different characters on the box is.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184525)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 26th, 2024 @ 9:01am CDT
I have friends who are non-fans that have dismissed the movie entirely based on the first trailer, saying it looked like it was too much "Marvel humor" for them. The movie itself isn't very bad, but I remember having the same impression of the first trailer.
I think the trailer probably did more damage for non-fans than it did for fans. Fans are invested in the property and may see the movie despite the trailer, but if non-fans don't like the trailer that can kill any and all interest in the movie.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 26th, 2024 @ 9:01am CDT
cloudballoon wrote:I wonder about the real effects of the 1st trailer for "fans" vs. the non-fans though. I'd bet the people that most vehemently against the 1st trailer are those "fans" that only care for a TF media presented to them "their way" and just plain refuse to try and/or support anything too different from what they hope for.
The non-fans proabably just care whether trailer(s) show them if there's enough appeal for kids but got enough plot for the adults to also have a good time. And on that, I think the 1st trailer was... fine? At least that's what I think why the 1st trailer is too saturated wiht jokes.
I have friends who are non-fans that have dismissed the movie entirely based on the first trailer, saying it looked like it was too much "Marvel humor" for them. The movie itself isn't very bad, but I remember having the same impression of the first trailer.
I think the trailer probably did more damage for non-fans than it did for fans. Fans are invested in the property and may see the movie despite the trailer, but if non-fans don't like the trailer that can kill any and all interest in the movie.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184534)
Posted by william-james88 on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:33pm CDT
50 cards per $15 box is not many cards? I remember card packs being more expensive growing up.
Posted by william-james88 on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:33pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:If you get them on Aliexpress they're much cheaper, especially if you get several boxes at once. Anywhere from $11-15 per box, usually. I don't think this set is up there yet? Might be and I just don't see it from a quick scan over the "Kayou Transformers" results page. They have a lot of product now - RotB set, 3 pan-generational sets (mostly G1), various promo things, and now TF One product.Glyph wrote:Ah, cheers - trading cards are a closed book to me. And likely to remain so at an estimated $35 per box times however many it might take...
Edit: I think I found the TF One boxes here: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807604521125.html Roughly $15 per box if you buy the thing of 4 boxes. Only 50 cards per box in these though, blegh. Not sure what the significance of the different characters on the box is.
50 cards per $15 box is not many cards? I remember card packs being more expensive growing up.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184535)
Posted by william-james88 on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:35pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 26th, 2024 @ 2:35pm CDT
We have more images of the Transformers One cards. Turns out these are Chinese physical cards, some with holographic effect. While the Primes were the biggest news, since they were not clearly depicted in the film, it is nice to see other chars like Brawn, Sunstreaker and Ironhide. These characters have cogged and non cogged versions. There are a lot more cards than the ones shown below, as we can see from their indicated numbers. Hopefully the rest of the Primes subset will be found and shared.
Here is where they can be purchased by westerners: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807604521125.html
Here is where they can be purchased by westerners: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807604521125.html
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184558)
Posted by AzureNight on September 27th, 2024 @ 9:11am CDT
Posted by AzureNight on September 27th, 2024 @ 9:11am CDT
Here's all of the 13 from the trading card line
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184559)
Posted by AzureNight on September 27th, 2024 @ 9:14am CDT
Posted by AzureNight on September 27th, 2024 @ 9:14am CDT
All 13 Primes from the trading card line
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184570)
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 10:57am CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 10:57am CDT
Ah, here we go - full set of the Primes cards showcasing their movie designs:
https://www.facebook.com/10008693189766 ... 979930394/
(via TFW2005)
(Probably should have split the trading card stuff into its own thread a little while ago...)
Part 1:
https://www.facebook.com/10008693189766 ... 979930394/
(via TFW2005)
(Probably should have split the trading card stuff into its own thread a little while ago...)
Part 1:
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184571)
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:00am CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:00am CDT
Part 2:
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184573)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:06am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:06am CDT
You do know that you can post all of the pics in a single post if you embed them rather than attach them, right?
(Example post with 41 embedded pics)
(Example post with 41 embedded pics)
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184574)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:14am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:14am CDT
Who wants to see IGN's terrible review of the movie get completely torn to shreds? 
(Language warning, btw. So many f-bombs)
(Language warning, btw. So many f-bombs)
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184575)
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:16am CDT
I attached rather than hotlink in case they disappear or change, so we have the images saved.
Also, I see @Csbiaoo has updated with more scans of the non-Prime bots, including:
Skywarp, Thundercracker, Slipstream and Redwing (UR set)
Wheeljack, Hound, Arcee & Jazz (SSR set)
Ironhide, Brawn, Moonracer & Firestar (SSR set)
Prowl, Sideswipe & Sunstreaker (SSR set)
Arcee, Jazz, Ironhide & Sideswipe (cog versions) (SSR set)
Mod(s), I don't want to keep cluttering up this thread with card scans - is there any gallery option we could do?
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:16am CDT
You mean hotlink to them? I don't see any other embed option - is that a user group thing?Sabrblade wrote:You do know that you can post all of the pics in a single post if you embed them rather than attach them, right?
I attached rather than hotlink in case they disappear or change, so we have the images saved.
Also, I see @Csbiaoo has updated with more scans of the non-Prime bots, including:
Skywarp, Thundercracker, Slipstream and Redwing (UR set)
Wheeljack, Hound, Arcee & Jazz (SSR set)
Ironhide, Brawn, Moonracer & Firestar (SSR set)
Prowl, Sideswipe & Sunstreaker (SSR set)
Arcee, Jazz, Ironhide & Sideswipe (cog versions) (SSR set)
Mod(s), I don't want to keep cluttering up this thread with card scans - is there any gallery option we could do?
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184581)
Posted by cloudballoon on September 27th, 2024 @ 12:32pm CDT
Posted by cloudballoon on September 27th, 2024 @ 12:32pm CDT
Just found Alpha Trion, Solus & Onyx Prime designs interesting enough to get theirStudio Series toys if they do come (or Yolopark AMK). I really wish, the future Autobots & Deceptions designs being mostly 'meh' but shiny, they did the reverse Star Wars prequels in deisgn ideology. In the SW prequels everything were nice & shiny, but SW IV-IX things got all grimy with exposed pipes, panels, etc. Wish the Primes had Aplha Trion's aesthetic.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184588)
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 1:35pm CDT
Posted by Glyph on September 27th, 2024 @ 1:35pm CDT
I've collected the trading card pics into a separate thread, grouped by set for easier reference. It's a mix of onsite & offsite links atm - Mods, if you want to copy images to seibertron, I'll update the ones that still point to imgur.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184595)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 27th, 2024 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 27th, 2024 @ 3:35pm CDT
The designs of the Primes in this movie are my favorites. I liked seeing how they don't feel as been-there-done-that as with almost every other robot in this film. I do hope we see them have larger roles like with Alpha Trion, like maybe Megatronus could be in conflict with Megatron for doing bad things while not liking Sentinel Prime either, or Quintus Prime helping Optimus find a way to destroy the Quintessons once and for all (if he did make them in this universe, that is)...assuming people would go out and financially support the movie instead of being stuck on social media rinse and repeating the same things in the fandom.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184604)
Posted by steve2275 on September 27th, 2024 @ 7:48pm CDT
Posted by steve2275 on September 27th, 2024 @ 7:48pm CDT
very good praise
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184616)
Posted by hausjam on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:59pm CDT
Posted by hausjam on September 27th, 2024 @ 11:59pm CDT
“it's unfortunate that a film that had such a great reception did so poorly. Especially when this is in the same brand where films that were panned by critics and fans made over a billion dollars”
Yeah, yeah, the lousy bayverse films. Panned by hack critics (who are just bitter, failed filmmakers, that only like artsy tranquilizers) and sanctimonious movie snobs (who believe everyone should agree with them because they are elitist, arrogant dopes).
God forbid there are people out there who like something you don’t.
Yeah, yeah, the lousy bayverse films. Panned by hack critics (who are just bitter, failed filmmakers, that only like artsy tranquilizers) and sanctimonious movie snobs (who believe everyone should agree with them because they are elitist, arrogant dopes).
God forbid there are people out there who like something you don’t.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184621)
Posted by Glyph on September 28th, 2024 @ 6:00am CDT
A++ self awareness!
Besides, the quote was a statement of fact: the Bayverse films were broadly panned, and TF:One has had great reception from viewers & critics alike. Doesn't mean you're wrong to like the Bayverse films, if that's your thing. But it's a shame that TF:One is doing relatively poorly given how much the people who have seen it appear to like it.
Still waiting for it to open here on the 11th...
Posted by Glyph on September 28th, 2024 @ 6:00am CDT
hausjam wrote:Yeah, yeah, the lousy bayverse films. Panned by hack critics (who are just bitter, failed filmmakers, that only like artsy tranquilizers) and sanctimonious movie snobs (who believe everyone should agree with them because they are elitist, arrogant dopes).
hausjam wrote:God forbid there are people out there who like something you don’t.
A++ self awareness!
Besides, the quote was a statement of fact: the Bayverse films were broadly panned, and TF:One has had great reception from viewers & critics alike. Doesn't mean you're wrong to like the Bayverse films, if that's your thing. But it's a shame that TF:One is doing relatively poorly given how much the people who have seen it appear to like it.
Still waiting for it to open here on the 11th...
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184622)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 28th, 2024 @ 6:06am CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 28th, 2024 @ 6:06am CDT
hausjam wrote:“it's unfortunate that a film that had such a great reception did so poorly. Especially when this is in the same brand where films that were panned by critics and fans made over a billion dollars”
Yeah, yeah, the lousy bayverse films. Panned by hack critics (who are just bitter, failed filmmakers, that only like artsy tranquilizers) and sanctimonious movie snobs (who believe everyone should agree with them because they are elitist, arrogant dopes).
God forbid there are people out there who like something you don’t.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184623)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2024 @ 7:11am CDT
How does that work though?
I think the main factor is care/apathy. Everyone cared about the Bay movies. As for TF1, "no one" seems to care. It is unfortunate. Especially for a movie that is pure, timeless, and devoid of any "troll drama".
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2024 @ 7:11am CDT
Glyph wrote:hausjam wrote:Yeah, yeah, the lousy bayverse films. Panned by hack critics (who are just bitter, failed filmmakers, that only like artsy tranquilizers) and sanctimonious movie snobs (who believe everyone should agree with them because they are elitist, arrogant dopes).hausjam wrote:God forbid there are people out there who like something you don’t.
A++ self awareness!
Besides, the quote was a statement of fact: the Bayverse films were broadly panned, and TF:One has had great reception from viewers & critics alike. Doesn't mean you're wrong to like the Bayverse films, if that's your thing. But it's a shame that TF:One is doing relatively poorly given how much the people who have seen it appear to like it.
Still waiting for it to open here on the 11th...
How does that work though?
- TF1 is a movie that "everyone love" but no one get to see it.
- Most if not all Bay movies (at least the first 5) were "hated by everyone," but everyone went to see them.
- Only the Bee and ROTB movies were "fairly balanced" with love, hate, and attendance.
I think the main factor is care/apathy. Everyone cared about the Bay movies. As for TF1, "no one" seems to care. It is unfortunate. Especially for a movie that is pure, timeless, and devoid of any "troll drama".
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184625)
Posted by Glyph on September 28th, 2024 @ 8:17am CDT
The Bay movies, by contrast, get a lot of flack for being "not very good" as movies, but still got major audiences by being big tentpole summer action movies. Cinema history since the 80s is pretty littered with brilliant flops and also "dumb popcorn action flicks" that still pull in big casual summer audiences! (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe their US box office actually diminished as the series went on, but they made massively more money overseas, particularly in China)
I have no doubt that TF:One will be a "better" film than most of the Bayverse by most judgements, but it's also undeniably failed to connect with a big audience so far, and I suspect The Wild Robot will probably kill it dead in domestic box office. That probably has more to do with things like the marketing (I really don't think the initial trailer made a great first impression for general audiences, and you famously don't get a second chance at that), choice of release date (remember, all the other movies except BB came out in June/July and TF:One was supposed to come out in July but was delayed) and the staggered international opening, than it does with reviews or adjudged quality.
Posted by Glyph on September 28th, 2024 @ 8:17am CDT
Because audience reviews come from the people who've already seen it, generally? "Not many people saw it, but the ones who did all loved it" is a valid sentence. I don't believe that critic reviews really tend to move the needle all that much among the general public, certainly not as much as word of mouth - but word of mouth requires enough people to have seen it in the first place to tell their friends...-Kanrabat- wrote:How does that work though?TF1 is a movie that "everyone love" but no one get to see it.
Most if not all Bay movies (at least the first 5) were "hated by everyone," but everyone went to see them.
Only the Bee and ROTB movies were "fairly balanced" with love, hate, and attendance.
The Bay movies, by contrast, get a lot of flack for being "not very good" as movies, but still got major audiences by being big tentpole summer action movies. Cinema history since the 80s is pretty littered with brilliant flops and also "dumb popcorn action flicks" that still pull in big casual summer audiences! (Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe their US box office actually diminished as the series went on, but they made massively more money overseas, particularly in China)
I have no doubt that TF:One will be a "better" film than most of the Bayverse by most judgements, but it's also undeniably failed to connect with a big audience so far, and I suspect The Wild Robot will probably kill it dead in domestic box office. That probably has more to do with things like the marketing (I really don't think the initial trailer made a great first impression for general audiences, and you famously don't get a second chance at that), choice of release date (remember, all the other movies except BB came out in June/July and TF:One was supposed to come out in July but was delayed) and the staggered international opening, than it does with reviews or adjudged quality.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184626)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2024 @ 10:17am CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2024 @ 10:17am CDT
I made a montage to show the critics VS the money. Appart the 2007 movie and the ROTB movie, the audience and "pro" critics are fairly the same. (Bee is MIA)
What's impressive is that TF-One is a "perfect" movie, yet it is the poorest so far money-wise.
So I think my theory is correct. What matter most for a movie success is not whenever it is good or bad. It is MARKETING and PUBLIC INTEREST that decide it all.
I think what killed the interest in TF1 is the first trailer that made it too "kiddy" and the overall designs of the movie. If the first trailer would have had a nice balance between jokes and bad-ass moments, it would have made a big difference. But honestly, it is the overall design that didn't sit well. The faces are a bit too "human" (uncanny effect) and the overall look is too "cartoony." If the design would have been exactly like the intro sequence of the Bee movie, that would have changed everything.
Let's not forget that the Bay movies will soon be VINTAGE and a whole generation grew with the Bay designs. These designs are nostalgic for a huge portion of the fanbase. This doesn't make me any younger...
(Click the picture for a better view.)
What's impressive is that TF-One is a "perfect" movie, yet it is the poorest so far money-wise.
So I think my theory is correct. What matter most for a movie success is not whenever it is good or bad. It is MARKETING and PUBLIC INTEREST that decide it all.
I think what killed the interest in TF1 is the first trailer that made it too "kiddy" and the overall designs of the movie. If the first trailer would have had a nice balance between jokes and bad-ass moments, it would have made a big difference. But honestly, it is the overall design that didn't sit well. The faces are a bit too "human" (uncanny effect) and the overall look is too "cartoony." If the design would have been exactly like the intro sequence of the Bee movie, that would have changed everything.
Let's not forget that the Bay movies will soon be VINTAGE and a whole generation grew with the Bay designs. These designs are nostalgic for a huge portion of the fanbase. This doesn't make me any younger...
(Click the picture for a better view.)
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184630)
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 28th, 2024 @ 11:21am CDT
I think there are two other factors to consider: Animation and the franchise
Animation: Unfortunately, a lot of people in the U.S. don’t respect animation as a medium and view animated movies as “kids movies.” While I think the Spider-Verse films have been huge for the public perception of animation, it’s still something a lot of people look down on.
The franchise: Againx unfortunately, most people know of the franchise because of the movies. So when most people see that a Transformers movie is coming out, they don’t think about G1, Animated, or Prime Transformers, they think about the Michael Bay movies. Which makes this movie kind of doomed for failure. The people who don’t like the Bat movies won’t go see it because they think it’ll be like the Bag movies, and the people who do like the Bay movies may not go see it because it’s very different from the Bay movies.
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on September 28th, 2024 @ 11:21am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:ISo I think my theory is correct. What matter most for a movie success is not whenever it is good or bad. It is MARKETING and PUBLIC INTEREST that decide it all.
I think there are two other factors to consider: Animation and the franchise
Animation: Unfortunately, a lot of people in the U.S. don’t respect animation as a medium and view animated movies as “kids movies.” While I think the Spider-Verse films have been huge for the public perception of animation, it’s still something a lot of people look down on.
The franchise: Againx unfortunately, most people know of the franchise because of the movies. So when most people see that a Transformers movie is coming out, they don’t think about G1, Animated, or Prime Transformers, they think about the Michael Bay movies. Which makes this movie kind of doomed for failure. The people who don’t like the Bat movies won’t go see it because they think it’ll be like the Bag movies, and the people who do like the Bay movies may not go see it because it’s very different from the Bay movies.
Re: Character Models of Transformers One Micronus and Quintus Prime found on Card Designs (2184636)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2024 @ 12:11pm CDT
You're right on both accounts. Still, this all factor in the overall interest.
That's why I think that indeed, the fact that TF1 is too "cartoony" without the Disney, Pixar, or Dreamworks name, it was detrimental. If the CGI would have been Bay-Bee "realistic," the movie would have had much more success.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2024 @ 12:11pm CDT
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:ISo I think my theory is correct. What matter most for a movie success is not whenever it is good or bad. It is MARKETING and PUBLIC INTEREST that decide it all.
I think there are two other factors to consider: Animation and the franchise
Animation: Unfortunately, a lot of people in the U.S. don’t respect animation as a medium and view animated movies as “kids movies.” While I think the Spider-Verse films have been huge for the public perception of animation, it’s still something a lot of people look down on.
The franchise: Againx unfortunately, most people know of the franchise because of the movies. So when most people see that a Transformers movie is coming out, they don’t think about G1, Animated, or Prime Transformers, they think about the Michael Bay movies. Which makes this movie kind of doomed for failure. The people who don’t like the Bat movies won’t go see it because they think it’ll be like the Bag movies, and the people who do like the Bay movies may not go see it because it’s very different from the Bay movies.
You're right on both accounts. Still, this all factor in the overall interest.
That's why I think that indeed, the fact that TF1 is too "cartoony" without the Disney, Pixar, or Dreamworks name, it was detrimental. If the CGI would have been Bay-Bee "realistic," the movie would have had much more success.
