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"Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set

Friday, October 9th, 2015 9:42PM CDT

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Not too long ago, it was announced that Botcon 2016's box set would be called "Dawn of the Predacus" and consist of a combiner made up of Beast Wars components linked to the Tripedicus group. The first reveal was Ravage (a Tripedicus agent) using the combiner wars Breakdown mold. They have just revealed on their website today that another figure part of this set will be Tarantulas, as many fans guessed due to the character's affiliation with the Tripedicus council. Not only that but it was also revealed that his Beast Wars voice actor, Alec Willows, will also be a guest at the show.

While it may be odd that we are getting another exclusive Tarantulas in such a short time, they do indicate that this will be based on his Transmetal deco. As you recall, that body did have a motorcycle mode, however, he will not be using the deluxe Groove mold but instead the Rook mold as seen below.

Transformers News: "Dawn of the Predacus" Tarantulus revealed from BotCon 2016 set


Also, this means that the remaining three members of the combiner are probably the original members of the Tripedicus combiner: General Ram Horn, Sea Clamp, and Cicadacon.


Botcon wrote:10/09/2015 - We are thrilled to announce that Alec Willows, voice of the villainous and venomnous TARANTULAS from the Beast Wars cartoon series, will be our guest At BotCon 2016. Along with David Kaye, Alec will be available for autographs and panels as we celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Beast Wars.

Speaking of the robotic spider, we are also pleased to reveal that our second BotCon 2016 Predacon themed Combiner Wars boxed set character is in fact TARANTULAS, inspired by his season 2 "Transmetal" deco and featuring an ALL-NEW head sculpt. Along with Ravage, Tarantulas will merge with the other 3 Predacons in the box set to form PREDACUS!

Stay Tuned for more figure reveals, guest updates and info regarding events and registration for BotCon 2016 - North America's LARGEST Transformers fan convention!
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Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733127)
Posted by TF_JW on October 9th, 2015 @ 9:48pm CDT
Personal observation here (as a guy who had nothing to do with the mold choice on this one).

Transmetal Tarantulas was... well he was a bit like Bruce Lee. He wasn't bulky, but the guy was trim and toned (look at those abs!). And then he had a ginormous linebacker's shoulder pads thrown on, giving him an extremely wide chest and shoulders.

From the day Rook was revealed, that's kind of how I saw him too. His upper legs aren't all that bulky, and with the bomb disposal claw defining his job, I can interpret him as a moderate-sized guy inside of massively oversized protective shielding. And with this being Tarantulas working with the Predacon Secret before/instead of on ancient Earth getting turned into a spider, I can catch some interesting story vibes of him putting on some riot gear or a bomb disposal suit for a particularly tricky assignment.

As for the size of the head, thanks for pointing that out. But there has been a 3D printing made and correctly fitted to the body, even if the digital color/paint mock-up might appear to show something different.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733129)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 9th, 2015 @ 9:53pm CDT
TF_JW wrote:Personal observation here (as a guy who had nothing to do with the mold choice on this one).

Transmetal Tarantulas was... well he was a bit like Bruce Lee. He wasn't bulky, but the guy was trim and toned (look at those abs!). And then he had a ginormous linebacker's shoulder pads thrown on, giving him an extremely wide chest and shoulders.

From the day Rook was revealed, that's kind of how I saw him too. His upper legs aren't all that bulky, and with the bomb disposal claw defining his job, I can interpret him as a moderate-sized guy inside of massively oversized protective shielding. And with this being Tarantulas working with the Predacon Secret before/instead of on ancient Earth getting turned into a spider, I can catch some interesting story vibes of him putting on some riot gear or a bomb disposal suit for a particularly tricky assignment.

As for the size of the head, thanks for pointing that out. But there has been a 3D printing made and correctly fitted to the body, even if the digital color/paint mock-up might appear to show something different.


Cool, that's good to know about the head :D

I don't mind the mold choice, I can see it; but I must say, as the 'stalwart tank' ramhorn or seaclamp would have probably worked better, but I wonder if brawl and/or swindle are going to make an appearance; I can see ramhorn from brawl with a 'techno' barrel that looks like his horn :-?
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733132)
Posted by Gearslide on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:00pm CDT
Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.

So, it's not going to be that much of a surprise as to who the other 3 members are. The question is, WHO will be the Voyager in the middle and what mold will he use? Maybe Cicadacon? He has Tripredacus' head after all.

Hmm...

Actually, IF Cicadacon is the torso/voyager, maybe he'll make use of the Silverbolt mold? It would make more sense than the Optimus/Motormaster or Hot Spot/Onslaught molds. That leaves Sea Clamp and Ram Horn though.

I guess I could see Ram Horn using the First Aid or Offroad mold? It has the kind of bulk and shape that resembles his beetle mode. Plus, he'd work well as the Left Arm of the new Combiner and even resemble the original Tripredacus' Left Arm.

As for Sea Clamp... maybe the Dragstrip mold? That one hasn't gotten much use besides Mirage, and it's vaguely Crawfish shaped.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733134)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:11pm CDT
Gearslide wrote:Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.


How would it be too costly?
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733137)
Posted by Autobot N on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:13pm CDT
This, I really like. Way better than that Ravage.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733140)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:19pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.


How would it be too costly?
He has an additional plastic sprue that the Hasbro-released CW Deluxes all lack.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733142)
Posted by william-james88 on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:22pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.


How would it be too costly?
He has an additional plastic sprue that the Hasbro-released CW Deluxes all lack.


Yeah but we arent talking about Hasbro here, we are talking about the Club. The same people that released the Breakdown old at botcon last year along with some microns. They dont go by the same rules of Hasbro.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733145)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:24pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.


How would it be too costly?
He has an additional plastic sprue that the Hasbro-released CW Deluxes all lack.


Yeah but we arent talking about Hasbro here, we are talking about the Club. The same people that released the Breakdown old at botcon last year along with some microns. They dont go by the same rules of Hasbro.

I don't pretend to know anything about mold layouts, but I'm sure it could've been done >:oP
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733149)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:30pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.


How would it be too costly?
He has an additional plastic sprue that the Hasbro-released CW Deluxes all lack.


Yeah but we arent talking about Hasbro here, we are talking about the Club. The same people that released the Breakdown old at botcon last year along with some microns. They dont go by the same rules of Hasbro.

I don't pretend to know anything about mold layouts, but I'm sure it could've been done >:oP

Also Beast Wars II Dirgegun
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733150)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on October 9th, 2015 @ 10:31pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Gearslide wrote:Seeing as how Takara's Groove is apparently too costly to make to use anywhere else, this isn't bad as a 2nd best.


How would it be too costly?
He has an additional plastic sprue that the Hasbro-released CW Deluxes all lack.


Yeah but we arent talking about Hasbro here, we are talking about the Club. The same people that released the Breakdown old at botcon last year along with some microns. They dont go by the same rules of Hasbro.

I don't pretend to know anything about mold layouts, but I'm sure it could've been done >:oP

Also Beast Wars II Dirgegun


Exactly, and I still stand by my thought that hasbro will release bigroove and blastoff2 next year or later...
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733159)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 9th, 2015 @ 11:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Yeah but we arent talking about Hasbro here, we are talking about the Club. The same people that released the Breakdown old at botcon last year along with some microns. They dont go by the same rules of Hasbro.
My answer was only in regards to the inquiry of how the UW Groove mold might be more expensive than the CW Deluxes, not in regards to the idea that its expense is why the mold wasn't used.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733162)
Posted by Lucky Logician on October 9th, 2015 @ 11:54pm CDT
The second I saw Ravage, I got REALLY excited. Beast Wars Anniversary! Another character with a vehicle alt mode. And right after they gave us Tarantualas as the motorcycle. Looks like they've got the right idea and will be doing the remaining characters. Blackarachnia will probably be the Chromia mold. Silverbolt could be Beast Hunters Dreadwing with those back frilly things as a nice homage to Silverbolt's feathers. And Beast Hunters Ratchet has the PERFECT head for a Dinobot II. I can't wait to see more! :D

Then I read he was part of a combiner team. Ummmm... Okay, I guess. Isn't FunPub making a combiner (with too many limbs) for their subscription service? Whatever though. I could see Quickstrike in the Dragstrip mold; he is pretty fast after all. Scorpinoc could be the Rook Mold; beefy chest and those plugs on his fists could be reiminisnt of Scorp having no actual hands. I'm sure Terrorsaur will be one of the jets. Maybe Inferno will even be the Onslaught mold! :D


Then I saw this new post....




REALLY?!?! :???:

You literally just gave us a Tarantulas just over a month ago. Is this a joke? "Yo dawg, we heard you like Tarantulas. So we're gonna give you some Tarantulas to go with that Tarantulas." #-o

Oh, I'm sorry. This doesn't count because this is his "transmetal" version. WHAT?! :BANG_HEAD:

Honestly, I hadn't budgeted money for 2016 Botcon. But then I saw Ravage. So I now I was 100% going. I can make this happen and save enough money in time. But then I saw this. YOU HAD MY MONEY, FUNPUB! Why did you have to go and make an easy decision into a tough one? :(
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733163)
Posted by Emerje on October 9th, 2015 @ 11:59pm CDT
I think Rook is a good move. I'm sure a lot of people that joined the TFSS would be upset over a second motorcycle Tarantulas so making him something else makes sense. If Cicadacon is the torso then I'm thinking the Scattershot mold given the gun barrel nose and unusual wings. I think Ram Horn makes more sense as Dragstrip given the scoop on front somewhat resembling his horn. It goes against his heavy armor, but evokes his most noticeable feature. Sea Clamp I'd like to see as First Aid because of the more impressive armor plates. Might need to slap a Coast Guard or life guard sticker on him to make any sense.

Emerje
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733165)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:01am CDT
Lucky Logician wrote:The second I saw Ravage, I got REALLY excited. Beast Wars Anniversary! Another character with a vehicle alt mode. And right after they gave us Tarantualas as the motorcycle. Looks like they've got the right idea and will be doing the remaining characters. Blackarachnia will probably be the Chromia mold. Silverbolt could be Beast Hunters Dreadwing with those back frilly things as a nice homage to Silverbolt's feathers. And Beast Hunters Ratchet has the PERFECT head for a Dinobot II. I can't wait to see more! :D

Then I read he was part of a combiner team. Ummmm... Okay, I guess. Isn't FunPub making a combiner (with too many limbs) for their subscription service? Whatever though. I could see Quickstrike in the Dragstrip mold; he is pretty fast after all. Scorpinoc could be the Rook Mold; beefy chest and those plugs on his fists could be reiminisnt of Scorp having no actual hands. I'm sure Terrorsaur will be one of the jets. Maybe Inferno will even be the Onslaught mold! :D


Then I saw this new post....




REALLY?!?! :???:

You literally just gave us a Tarantulas just over a month ago. Is this a joke? "Yo dawg, we heard you like Tarantulas. So we're gonna give you some Tarantulas to go with that Tarantulas." #-o

Oh, I'm sorry. This doesn't count because this is his "transmetal" version. WHAT?! :BANG_HEAD:

Honestly, I hadn't budgeted money for 2016 Botcon. But then I saw Ravage. So I now I was 100% going. I can make this happen and save enough money in time. But then I saw this. YOU HAD MY MONEY, FUNPUB! Why did you have to go and make an easy decision into a tough one? :(
Was it not evident from the title of this set ("Dawn of the Predacus") that this was going to be a set of characters part of or affiliated with the Tripredacus Council?
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733168)
Posted by Lucky Logician on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:09am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Was it not evident from the title of this set ("Dawn of the Predacus") that this was going to be a set of characters part of or affiliated with the Tripredacus Council?
Was it not evident from the faction symbol on Ravage ("Predacon") that this was going to be a set of characters part of or affiliated with the Predacons? Honestly, Predacus sounds just as likely to be the Predacon version of Bruticus.

Yes, I thought there might be members of the Tri-Predacus council. But considering they are the Tri-Predacus council, I imagined a 3-pack of them. Why would I think that FunPub would give us the exact same character that arrived in my mailbox 44 days ago?
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733172)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:22am CDT
It looks good, and as one who appreciates the Rook mold, it works for me. Quite nice and Transmetal to me :D :BOT:
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733176)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:32am CDT
Lucky Logician wrote:Was it not evident from the faction symbol on Ravage
...who is a Tripredacus Agent.

Lucky Logician wrote:that this was going to be a set of characters part of or affiliated with the Predacons?
...which the Tripredaucs Council is a ruling body of.

Lucky Logician wrote:Honestly, Predacus sounds just as likely to be the Predacon version of Bruticus.
Honestly, if it was to be a Predacon-themed set instead of specifically a Tripredacus-themed set, why include Ravage and have him as the first reveal (since he was a mere a guest star minor character who only appeared in 3 episodes out of 52) instead of any of the more major Predacon characters in the cartoon?

Lucky Logician wrote:Yes, I thought there might be members of the Tri-Predacus council. But considering they are the Tri-Predacus council, I imagined a 3-pack of them.
Considering that a large part of their combiner/council name is in the theme's title, it'd make far more sense to have them showcased in the main boxed set.

Lucky Logician wrote:Why would I think that FunPub would give us the exact same character that arrived in my mailbox 44 days ago?
This one we are in agreement with since I was not expecting Tarantulas but a different Tripredacus Agent to go with Ravage and the main three. Onyx Primal in particular was the one I was hoping for since his getting a new toy next year would be in honor of the character's 20th anniversary. They wouldn't have even had to remold his head since they could have redecoed CW Firefly whose head is a close enough match to Onyx's head.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733177)
Posted by Starsaber468 on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:33am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Lucky Logician wrote:Was it not evident from the faction symbol on Ravage
...who is a Tripredacus Agent.

Lucky Logician wrote:("Predacon") that this was going to be a set of characters part of or affiliated with the Predacons?
...which the Tripredaucs Council is a ruling body of.

Lucky Logician wrote:Honestly, Predacus sounds just as likely to be the Predacon version of Bruticus.
Honestly, if it was to be a Predacon-themed set instead of specifically a Tripredacus-themed set, why include Ravage and have him as the first reveal (since he was a mere a guest star minor character who only appeared in 3 episodes out of 52) instead of any of the more major Predacon characters in the cartoon?

Lucky Logician wrote:Yes, I thought there might be members of the Tri-Predacus council. But considering they are the Tri-Predacus council, I imagined a 3-pack of them.
Considering that a large part of their combiner/council name is in the theme's title, it'd make far more sense to have them showcased in the main boxed set.

Lucky Logician wrote:Why would I think that FunPub would give us the exact same character that arrived in my mailbox 44 days ago?
This one we are in agreement with since I was not expecting Tarantulas but a different Tripredacus Agent to go with Ravage and the main three. Onyx Primal in particular was the one I was hoping for since his getting a new toy next year would be in honor of the character's 20th anniversary. They wouldn't have even had to remold his head since they could have redecoed CW Firefly whose head is a close enough match to Onyx's head.

I would consider waiting for the rest of the reveals after all, all those figures are getting NEW HEADS plus the Figure could be displayed with the Dawn of futures last boxset and the tfcc 3.0 figure deisplayed with your beast wars uprising figure collection
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733179)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 10th, 2015 @ 12:36am CDT
Starsaber468 wrote:I would consider waiting for the rest of the reveals after all, all those figures are getting NEW HEADS
They said there will be five new heads. Within a standard five CW mold-combiner (1 torso and 4 limbs) there are six heads total due to the combiner itself having a head of its own. So one of those six may not be remolded if the "five new heads" thing is true to its word.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733187)
Posted by DecepticonFinishline on October 10th, 2015 @ 1:13am CDT
I know we just got a motorbike Tarantulus, but I was suuuuuper hoping they were going to find a way to snag the new Takara Groove Mold for Tarantulus. I would have preferred to see Sea Clamp in the Rook mold (I've actually given this a significant amount of thought.)

The Transmetal scheme is surprising, though I suppose when he reveals his association with the Tripredacus council in the series, he is a Transmetal by then...

I've never got a BotCon set before, but that may change this year. I love the BW Predacons!
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733198)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 10th, 2015 @ 2:20am CDT
This I like. For those wondering about groove, maybe takara refused to play ball for whatever reason
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733223)
Posted by Rainmaker on October 10th, 2015 @ 6:02am CDT
Rook wasn't a very good mold in my opinion but COOL! 80's Tarantulas from Tarantulas Reimagined!
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733234)
Posted by Henry921 on October 10th, 2015 @ 6:53am CDT
Such an awesome head. Bit bulky for Tarry, and I've never liked Rook's molded hands, but he does look very cool.

Of course, I did just buy another Tarry... #-o

Mixed feelings on this set so far, but neither figure has been bad.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733236)
Posted by Emerje on October 10th, 2015 @ 7:06am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:This one we are in agreement with since I was not expecting Tarantulas but a different Tripredacus Agent to go with Ravage and the main three. Onyx Primal in particular was the one I was hoping for since his getting a new toy next year would be in honor of the character's 20th anniversary. They wouldn't have even had to remold his head since they could have redecoed CW Firefly whose head is a close enough match to Onyx's head.


Did I miss where they said how many figures will be in the box this year? You know we're going to get a lot more than one Voyager and four deluxe, that's less than what the subscription service is giving us. There should be at least another Voyager or two more limbs as well as a Legends and I'm still not sure that would be comparable to what came in the 2015 set. And besides, when was the last time a set was made of just one faction? 2011, but that was a really small set compared to what we normally get these days. Otherwise there's always at least one member of the opposition represented.

But saying that I could see them using the Fireflight mold for Onyx Primal as you suggested, and then use the Deluxe Groove mold and probably a new head to make Flamewar, though maybe they can get away with just repainting Legends Groove. Wouldn't surprise me if they use the CW Optimus Prime mold and paint him as Hyperlinq, then his combined mode can be Sentinel Maximus, no remolding necessary. If not this year then next.

Still find it strange that Fun Pub is doing two combiners in 2016 and neither one is Nexus Prime.

Emerje
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733239)
Posted by steals_your_goats on October 10th, 2015 @ 7:23am CDT
Alright well if the other 3 are going to be half as cool as this I'll definitely but it. I'm a big fan of the Rook mold and these colors just really work for me. Plus the blood red rims are a nice touch.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733242)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 10th, 2015 @ 7:30am CDT
Emerje wrote:Did I miss where they said how many figures will be in the box this year?
Five tends to be the standard number per boxed set, so it's not a far-fetched guess. And five is all that's needed for a CW combiner.

We've gotten five figures in the following year's boxed sets (small accessory figures like Targetmasters, Headmasters, Mini-Cons--barring one case--and Arms Microns count as just that, accessories): 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, and 2015.

Only 2005, 2008, and 2012 officially had more than five separate figures.

Emerje wrote:You know we're going to get a lot more than one Voyager and four deluxe, that's less than what the subscription service is giving us.
Last I counted the Subscription Service will be giving us one Voyager and six Deluxes.

Emerje wrote:And besides, when was the last time a set was made of just one faction? 2011, but that was a really small set compared to what we normally get these days. Otherwise there's always at least one member of the opposition represented.
Though this year's set had multiple factions, all five of the Cybertron's Most Wanted boxed set toys were bad guys.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733275)
Posted by YoungPrime on October 10th, 2015 @ 9:38am CDT
Looks just as horrible as that Ravage repaint/mold.

Keep the the bad work Botcon... No desire for this at all.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733286)
Posted by -Soundwave- on October 10th, 2015 @ 9:58am CDT
I'm not in pressed with this Rook either. Sorry.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733294)
Posted by ScottyP on October 10th, 2015 @ 10:26am CDT
I don't like this figure. I don't need another Tarantulas with a non-Beast mode. Just got that in the mail last month.

I know what the fiction/naming implied, and you can make up new stories all you want to, but this is poorly timed, lazy, and adds no value to the box set for me.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733309)
Posted by Flashwave on October 10th, 2015 @ 11:36am CDT
The ultimate Botcon punk move:

Boxset>>two Voyagers, three Deluxes. (Two combiiners, two limbs for one and one for the other)
Attendee figure>> 1 of the limbs,
At the Show add ons>>> the other limbs you need, and Swwps for Galvatronus.

You can't complete the Botcon combiner unless you go! Mwahaha.

Anyways, i certainly understand anyones complaint about duplicating Tarantulas, but this does not, to me, fit the asthetic of DofFP the way Sub3 Tarantulas did (Yes, I know he's not intended, but most of us who have DofFP are using him) so I am okay with a CW Tarantulas. And mre con affiliated limbs are good.
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Posted by alexison on October 10th, 2015 @ 3:11pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:I don't like this figure. I don't need another Tarantulas with a non-Beast mode. Just got that in the mail last month.

I know what the fiction/naming implied, and you can make up new stories all you want to, but this is poorly timed, lazy, and adds no value to the box set for me.


I was trying to figure out how to word my response so i wouldn't have a legion of the faithful attack me & you have come to my rescue. This pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly. After multiple visits, it's time to start putting out Beast Wars characters that are beasts or just leave them alone. And before it's questioned, I am a Beast Wars kid. Beast Wars was my jam.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733401)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 10th, 2015 @ 3:38pm CDT
I think with regards to the club, they can only work with what hasbro has done lately. I can't blame them for wanting to get in on the beast wars anniversary.

Question though, could the club use any of the old beast wars moulds or is it far gone for them to use them?
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733408)
Posted by alexison on October 10th, 2015 @ 4:03pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think with regards to the club, they can only work with what hasbro has done lately.


For sure they are. I'm just not big on the sale of homaging for the sake of homaging.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733413)
Posted by ScottyP on October 10th, 2015 @ 4:39pm CDT
Doctor McGrath wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I think with regards to the club, they can only work with what hasbro has done lately.


For sure they are. I'm just not big on the sale of homaging for the sake of homaging.
Bingo. I understand wanting to do something for Beast Wars' 20th, especially since Hasbro is probably doing extremely little on their own. These feel a bit forced though, at least for right now. Hard to say with only two figures shown but I'm kinda bummin' on the theme now. Maybe if Sea Clamp and pals end up being a thing, using molds that don't feel forced, that will work out to be a cool thing.

Just a quick counterpoint since it'll get brought up anyhow - I get why a BW set is being done. If it wasn't, given Hasbro's sort of "meh" attitude on it as a constant, the first thing out of a lot of mouths would be "why didn't the club do Beast Wars stuff, it's the 20th anniversary!" To this I say: let's chill on anniversaries. This is an old brand now, almost every year will be the anniversary of something. It's the ten year anniversary of Cybertron, and there's been absolutely nothing homaging that stuff either. I want some premium deco Cybertron 10th redecos, darn it, but this isn't going to happen because only so much can happen. I'd rather see the brand just move forward and attempt evolution than go into a death spiral from worrying about homaging and celebrating every past achievement.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733415)
Posted by Emerje on October 10th, 2015 @ 4:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:Did I miss where they said how many figures will be in the box this year?
Five tends to be the standard number per boxed set, so it's not a far-fetched guess. And five is all that's needed for a CW combiner.

We've gotten five figures in the following year's boxed sets (small accessory figures like Targetmasters, Headmasters, Mini-Cons--barring one case--and Arms Microns count as just that, accessories): 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, and 2015.


I don't think you're being quite fair there, you can't just go by the number of figures. Let's take a closer look at the most recent years:

2015 - Legend x1, Deluxe x2, Voyager x2 (new heads x2), an entire custom pretender shell, and accessory bots x5
2014 - Deluxe x3 (new heads x2), Voyager x1, a heavily retooled Ultra, and accessory bots x2
2013 - Deluxe x3 (all new heads), Voyager x2 (new head x1)
2012 - Deluxe x5 (new heads x4), Voyager x1 (new head)
2011 - Deluxe x4 (new heads x2), Voyager x1 (new head)
2010 - Deluxe x3 (new heads x2), Voyager x1, Ultra x1 (new head)

So yeah, just giving us four deluxe and a voyager with five new heads isn't going to cut it. That's only slightly better than we got in 2011 which was the worst in the last six years as far as what you got in the box goes.

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:You know we're going to get a lot more than one Voyager and four deluxe, that's less than what the subscription service is giving us.
Last I counted the Subscription Service will be giving us one Voyager and six Deluxes.


Riiiight, last I checked four Deluxe and a Voyager is less than 6 Deluxe and a Voyager. :-?

Sabrblade wrote:
Emerje wrote:And besides, when was the last time a set was made of just one faction? 2011, but that was a really small set compared to what we normally get these days. Otherwise there's always at least one member of the opposition represented.
Though this year's set had multiple factions, all five of the Cybertron's Most Wanted boxed set toys were bad guys.


But different factions nonetheless. And not just different factions, but different fictions, that's like the ultimate example of my point.

Emerje
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733416)
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 10th, 2015 @ 4:53pm CDT
I think there is some achievements worth remembering, and beast wars is one of them as that reignited the transformers as a brand, otherwise it could if died off after G2 flopped. I do understand what you both saying though.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733454)
Posted by Lucky Logician on October 10th, 2015 @ 6:35pm CDT
While we're on the subject of FunPub doing a Beast Wars theme this year for the 20th anniversary:

FunPub, you now own the mold of a monkey who can fit a truck inside it. If you want to make money hand over fist, PAINT HIM LIKE OPTIMUS PRIMAL! He would be both a trukk and a munky. :D And you can just paint the truck in the same colors. Or maybe even paint him a sweet cherry color like the Dodge Ram OP.

You have one job, FunPub. Don't mess this up. :evil:
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733457)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 10th, 2015 @ 6:50pm CDT
Huh, Tarantulas as a SWAT APC. Surprise surprise, never expected that one. What's next, not actually releasing the Tripredacus Council, but rather Barrage, Venom and Nautilator instead? :lol:

TakaraTomy's Deluxe Groove for the guy? My theory: Too soon. TakaraTomy-only molds have a so-called "lag" for producing Club figures with, due to the fact FunPub simply doesn't know about them until the fans do: Hasbro doesn't, or rather is unable to, provide information about what TakaraTomy may do on their own.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733476)
Posted by Emerje on October 10th, 2015 @ 8:16pm CDT
Lucky Logician wrote:FunPub, you now own the mold of a monkey who can fit a truck inside it. If you want to make money hand over fist, PAINT HIM LIKE OPTIMUS PRIMAL! He would be both a trukk and a munky. :D


With a little imagination you can actually give CW Prime a gorilla mode simply by making him do a back bend and using the super mode head. It's sort of like the Transmetal transformation so maybe do him up in those colors since Ravage and Tarantulas are both TMs, with some good blue metallic paint.

Also Jelze makes a good point about Groove. It's also probably harder to coordinate the use of new molds than it is with Hasbro.

Emerje
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733505)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 10th, 2015 @ 11:14pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
Lucky Logician wrote:FunPub, you now own the mold of a monkey who can fit a truck inside it. If you want to make money hand over fist, PAINT HIM LIKE OPTIMUS PRIMAL! He would be both a trukk and a munky. :D


With a little imagination you can actually give CW Prime a gorilla mode simply by making him do a back bend and using the super mode head. It's sort of like the Transmetal transformation so maybe do him up in those colors since Ravage and Tarantulas are both TMs, with some good blue metallic paint.

Also Jelze makes a good point about Groove. It's also probably harder to coordinate the use of new molds than it is with Hasbro.

Emerje

I posted this in the combiner wars thread, but if you convert the top half of CW primes body to torso mode and add 2 deluxes as arms, you will have CW Optimus Primal ;) :BOT:
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733509)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 10th, 2015 @ 11:28pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Lucky Logician wrote:FunPub, you now own the mold of a monkey who can fit a truck inside it. If you want to make money hand over fist, PAINT HIM LIKE OPTIMUS PRIMAL! He would be both a trukk and a munky. :D


With a little imagination you can actually give CW Prime a gorilla mode simply by making him do a back bend and using the super mode head. It's sort of like the Transmetal transformation so maybe do him up in those colors since Ravage and Tarantulas are both TMs, with some good blue metallic paint.

Also Jelze makes a good point about Groove. It's also probably harder to coordinate the use of new molds than it is with Hasbro.

Emerje

I posted this in the combiner wars thread, but if you convert the top half of CW primes body to torso mode and add 2 deluxes as arms, you will have CW Optimus Primal ;) :BOT:


i'd say optimal optimus
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733519)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:20am CDT
I thought of another potential option for this combiner. Specifically, the Legends class component (if it's going to have one, that is).

In the third Beast Wars: Uprising prose story, "Burning Bridges", there is a mnemosurgeon named Vampire who works inside the Mandala, headquarters of the Predacon Secret Police. And he happens to be based on the design on Legends class Groove.

Image

Granted, this year's story could be set in the BW cartoon continuity proper like DoFP was, but that wouldn't stop there being a cartoonverse version of Vampire as well as an Uprisingverse version. ;)
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733520)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:23am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I thought of another potential option for this combiner. Specifically, the Legends class component (if it's going to have one, that is).

In the third Beast Wars: Uprising prose story, "Burning Bridges", there is a mnemosurgeon named Vampire who works inside the Mandala, headquarters of the Predacon Secret Police. And he happens to be based on the design on Legends class Groove.

Image

Granted, this year's story could be set in the BW cartoon continuity proper like DoFP was, but that wouldn't stop there being a cartoonverse version of Vampire as well as an Uprisingverse version. ;)

That picture is kinda really cool awesome amazing :BOT:
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733523)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:24am CDT
Wow, Vampire? That's a horrible name. Sounds like harry potter if he were in some shitty fan fiction or something.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733524)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:26am CDT
He's a very creepy Pred (I envisioned him sounding like either Prime Starscream or Movieverse Starscream when I read his dialogue). :twisted:
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733526)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:28am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:He's a very creepy Pred (I envisioned him sounding like either Prime Starscream or Movieverse Starscream when I read his dialogue). :twisted:

It gets a bit dampened when you consider his name is Vampire. Even by transformers standards that's dumb.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733528)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:33am CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:He's a very creepy Pred (I envisioned him sounding like either Prime Starscream or Movieverse Starscream when I read his dialogue). :twisted:

It gets a bit dampened when you consider his name is Vampire. Even by transformers standards that's dumb.
Eh, I'm not entirely sure if that's his actual name since the story made it sound like that's just what he's "called" rather than "named".

Heh, Stiletto even made a "for Primus's sake!" remark about the name. :P

Plus, I sincerely doubt it'd be a Trademarkable name for a Hasbro (via Fun Pub) TF toy to use since it's so generic, so there's a good chance that he'd get a different name if he were to ever get a toy.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733530)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on October 11th, 2015 @ 12:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:He's a very creepy Pred (I envisioned him sounding like either Prime Starscream or Movieverse Starscream when I read his dialogue). :twisted:

It gets a bit dampened when you consider his name is Vampire. Even by transformers standards that's dumb.
Eh, I'm not entirely sure if that's his actual name since the story made it sound like that's just what he's "called" rather than "named".

Heh, Stiletto even made a "for Primus's sake!" remark about the name. :P

Plus, I sincerely doubt it'd be a Trademarkable name for a Hasbro (via Fun Pub) TF toy to use since it's so generic, so there's a good chance that he'd get a different name if he were to ever get a toy.

Welp from now on he'll always be "Vampire Potter" to me. Thanks whoever named him.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733577)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on October 11th, 2015 @ 9:55am CDT
Cicada on from Scattershot makes sense, but I'm kind of hoping they use the Powerglide/Viper mold for him.

I like the suggestion of Ramhorn from Firstaid, but am quite surprised Sea-Clamp is not going to be an Amphibious Assault vehicle based on Rook. It would have given him clamps...

I suppose the Hotspot/Onslaught/Bludgeon/Demolisher mold would have the better 'profile' though - long altmode body, big shoulders, opening chest.
Re: "Dawn of the Predacus" Predacon Secret Police Tarantulas revealed from BotCon 2016 set (1733614)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 11th, 2015 @ 2:07pm CDT
Even though it was Magnaboss whose combined weapon was a sword, I wonder if it would be possible for Ram Horn, Sea Clamp, and Cicadacon to each come with a redecoed Arms Micron component of the Dark Matter Calibur. Ram Horn could have Gabu (the bladed weapon), Sea Clamp could have Dai (the gun), and Cicadacon could have Baru (the cleaver). Then the combined form could wield the big sword.

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