"Dawn of the Predacus" Ravage revealed from BotCon 2016 set

I hate this mold...but that doesn't look too bad.

Looks goofy as heck.

Holy Mixed Feelings, Batman! Vehicle mode and color scheme = amazeballs! Horrible mold choice for such a badaft character = desire to commit suppuku!

Seriously, I HATE the robot mode of this mold. Vehicle mode looks solid, but the robot mode... show-accurate head or not, it can't make that bot mode look good. But the colors! Pretty!

Really nice head sculpt. Wish the shoulders were posed up a bit more in the stock photography, would probably make it look a lot better in this case.

I hope the torso is a TMII Dragon Megs using the Sky Lynx mold.

Cat-Scourge!

I've always thought Beast Wars characters look weird with vehicle modes. This looks even more off since Ravage retains absolutely NONE of the organic shapes and curves from the original (er, original BW design, that is; but heck, I think the G1 was less blocky than this).

Hmm, on one hand, I like that it has a vehicle mode (I was never a big fan of most beast transformers besides the cassettes, Sky Lynx, and the Dinobots). On the other hand, that head is atrocious.

Eh, I'll get it, given that Botcon 2016 is the first Botcon I'll be going to. Plus, if they make a full combiner (Which, if they do, I assume will be named "Predacus"), I can repurpose it as a .

I'm not a big fan of the Combiner Wars Breakdown mould, but this Ravage looks decent enough. I'm reserving judgement until I see what else will be in this set before I decide whether or not to buy it, but if this BotCon exclusive set of Combiner Wars repaints (because we totally don't have enough Combiner Wars repaints, do we? /sarcasm) is all Hasbro will be doing for Beast Wars' 20th birthday, that'll be a bit disappointing. I would have preferred original moulds in a main line, even if it were just a couple (let's say three new Deluxes and two new Voyagers).

TF_JW wrote:

The BotCon 2016 set will feature FIVE all-new head sculpts utilizing the amazing TRANSFORMERS COMBINER WARS action figures.

Lemme guess... The other four will be:
- Ram Horn (Maybe Hot Spt with a "horned" ladder? )
- Sea Clamp (Maybe Rook with two "clamp" guns... or VERY INTERESTING Combiner Hands? )
- Cicadacon (Maybe a... "Bravo" Aerialbot because... well, it flies? )
- and Tarantulas (Maybe UW deluxe Groove due to Transmetal's "moto" mode? )

so we can have... Combiner Wars PENTADACUS?

Just a guess...

I like the colors and the head. I like Combiner Wars. But I am REALLY getting burned out on the same molds being used over and over. And over. And over.

This saddens me greatly in a way. Whenever I see a toy revealed like this it means Hasbro or Takara doesnt have plans to release one themselves. I would have loved this guy to have a new mold, it's an awesome character. And the fact that this is to commemorate Beast Wars 20th scares me even more since it means we may only get repaints and no true updates on any characters aside from MP Primal.

I do not like this toy, I do not like this mold and the head looks silly on the body. It doesnt look like the character and this means we now have to wait a while before he gets a better toy.

Also, I do not find him niche enough for Botcon but maybe that is just me.

In the end, I would have preffered this toy (and the anniversary for beast wars) be made up of new molds. I totally get that this is the club, so of course its repaints. But I would have preffered Hasbro proper to deal with this anniversary so we wouldnt be stuck with retools/redecos for something I deem quite important. And worse, it may mean we dont get proper versions for a while.

This feels so out there. I like the car, hate the mold, and am not really excited by this reveal.

Maybe the others will be super cool. Also, no beast mode combiners coming any time soon. I know it's the 20th sooner rather than later, but man, his just seems like an odd mashup-- combiner wars vehicles with beast mode Beast Wars characters.

I am not even sure what to guess. Give terrasaur a jet alt mode, scorponok a tank-- or rampage, waspinator a jet, dinobot could be another tank, I don't v know.

Tigertrack wrote:This feels so out there. I like the car, hate the mold, and am not really excited by this reveal.

Maybe the others will be super cool. Also, no beast mode combiners coming any time soon. I know it's the 20th sooner rather than later, but man, his just seems like an odd mashup-- combiner wars vehicles with beast mode Beast Wars characters.

I am not even sure what to guess. Give terrasaur a jet alt mode, scorponok a tank-- or rampage, waspinator a jet, dinobot could be another tank, I don't v know.

You think they will repeat characters they already gave us? I thought this would be their chance of adding to the neo classics beast wars/vehicle mode collection they have been adding to over the years (like with Tarantulus this year). I think it will be a bunch of characters, or versions of characters (like TM or TMII) we havent seen yet.

more proof hasbro has no idea what they are doing, you know how many of these they would sell if it was mass released especially if it deals with Tripredacus. Instead of doing interesting beast wars homages we get half assed autobot repaints of menasor and ugly fembots that use 2 of the same mold, good job hasbro you really know what the fans want.

Whoa. Just got a vibe. With a different head, does anyone else think this would make a great Nightracer? It already has her colors.

Interesting concept, though it would be even better if they ended up revisiting one of my favourite combiners, magnaboss.

Still I can get behind this

I was expecting a shattered glass beast wars themed box set not this sadly might mean we (probably) aren't getting one

Interesting head sculpt and very nice colors in the vehicle mode but I guess I'd have to see the rest of the team ( If this is a team) first before I made any real decision.

KillerOh wrote:

TF_JW wrote:

The BotCon 2016 set will feature FIVE all-new head sculpts utilizing the amazing TRANSFORMERS COMBINER WARS action figures.

Lemme guess... The other four will be:
- Ram Horn (Maybe Hot Spot with a "horned" ladder? )
- Sea Clamp (Maybe Rook with two "clamp" guns... or VERY INTERESTING Combiner Hands? )
- Cicadacon (Maybe a... "Bravo" Aerialbot because... well, it flies? )
- and Tarantulas (Maybe UW deluxe Groove due to Transmetal's "moto" mode? )

so we can have... Combiner Wars PENTADACUS?

Just a guess...

I feel like you're right about the 3 members of Tripredacus but I'm not sure about Tarantulas seeing they just made one for TFCCSS though I don't know who else the could do. and I think Air Raid would be a better choice for Cicadacon with the variable wings that can be pointed up closer to bug-like wings. Ram Horn Could be made with Brawl with a new cannon. Maybe some sort of Unicron torso? Or just looking at the TFWiki page for the council it say their founder was Preditron so maybe him?

Megatron Wolf wrote:more proof hasbro has no idea what they are doing, you know how many of these they would sell if it was mass released especially if it deals with Tripredacus. Instead of doing interesting beast wars homages we get half assed autobot repaints of menasor and ugly fembots that use 2 of the same mold, good job hasbro you really know what the fans want.

I'd like to know what Rattrap, Waspinator, and Rhinox think about that. I'll head down to my local Walmart and ask them; I know they're still hanging out.

Randomus wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:more proof hasbro has no idea what they are doing, you know how many of these they would sell if it was mass released especially if it deals with Tripredacus. Instead of doing interesting beast wars homages we get half assed autobot repaints of menasor and ugly fembots that use 2 of the same mold, good job hasbro you really know what the fans want.

I'd like to know what Rattrap, Waspinator, and Rhinox think about that. I'll head down to my local Walmart and ask them; I know they're still hanging out.

Here is a view of what my toysrus store looks like just last week:

Interesting, that is all at this point

Hmm...

If we really are getting some kind of Tripredacus homage at Botcon, we can technically already have a Magnaboss set of components to match, in the form of Combiner Wars Ironide, Prowl, and Silverbolt.

With the Three members of the original Tripredacus, this Ravage, and a Fifth Member, Botcon only needs another 2 suitable Combiner Wars Deluxe repaints/retools to add to the original three members of Magnaboss.

As a cool bonus, they could make a Magnaboss-esque head accessory that comes with the other 2 members that you can replace Superion's with to complete the homage.

Railbomb wrote:I feel like you're right about the 3 members of Tripredacus but I'm not sure about Tarantulas seeing they just made one for TFCCSS though I don't know who else the could do.

For me, a Transmetal Tarantulas is just an "excuse" to get UW Groove mold into the fray. This, or either UW Groove asFlamewar (Hell, they could even use Legends Groove as either, IF one of the Tripredacus turns out to be REALLY Hot Spot!)... Or another Aerialbot repaint for Onyx Primal...

Railbomb wrote:Or just looking at the TFWiki page for the council it say their founder was Preditron so maybe him?

TFWiki wrote:Preditron is blue and yellow

Good, Now I can't unsee a Hotspot with all BLACK parts replaced by YELLOW ones...

Gearslide wrote:If we really are getting some kind of Tripredacus homage at Botcon, we can technically already have a Magnaboss set of components to match, in the form of Combiner Wars Ironide, Prowl, and Silverbolt

Now that would be either nice... or ludicruously underwelming for "not-more-CW-toys-repaints-for-exclusives"...

With combiner wars figures, I had hoped for a new Nexus Prime. Oh well. I still really want a Nexus Prime

william-james88 wrote:and this means we now have to wait a while before he gets a better toy.

Me thinks you would be waiting a long while anywho

Randomus wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:more proof hasbro has no idea what they are doing, you know how many of these they would sell if it was mass released especially if it deals with Tripredacus. Instead of doing interesting beast wars homages we get half assed autobot repaints of menasor and ugly fembots that use 2 of the same mold, good job hasbro you really know what the fans want.

I'd like to know what Rattrap, Waspinator, and Rhinox think about that. I'll head down to my local Walmart and ask them; I know they're still hanging out.

Wow, you're lucky. You actually have Transformers at your Walmart! Over at mine, it's squeezed into a little corner of the aisle, and last I checked, there were 0 Transformers on the shelf.

I'm really hoping we'll see a Botanica out of this set...

trip2boy wrote:

Randomus wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:more proof hasbro has no idea what they are doing, you know how many of these they would sell if it was mass released especially if it deals with Tripredacus. Instead of doing interesting beast wars homages we get half assed autobot repaints of menasor and ugly fembots that use 2 of the same mold, good job hasbro you really know what the fans want.

I'd like to know what Rattrap, Waspinator, and Rhinox think about that. I'll head down to my local Walmart and ask them; I know they're still hanging out.

Wow, you're lucky. You actually have Transformers at your Walmart! Over at mine, it's squeezed into a little corner of the aisle, and last I checked, there were 0 Transformers on the shelf.

Just finished a shopping trip. Both TRU and Target still have Rhinox and Whirl. all the Rattraps are gone though!

Seriously funpub, what the fuck have you wrought?! This is one of the worst things they have done. I know I indulge in allot of hyperbole, but this, this is straight up insultingly bad. I don't care about how they try and justify using the fiction, CW is a mold that does not fit ravage, what so ever. The head, so far, isn't even entirely accurate to the source material, the check bones and teeth are off, and he doesn't have the Vladimir Putin hairline. The figure itself is decent, but the mold is fickle, with odd hinging and joint placement, the alt mode dosen't fit with the character, really the only predacon it would've fit with would've actually been Shadow Panther. So I personally find this the second most insulting figure the club has done, the first being slipstream but TT's fixing that, with the dumbest being THUNDER MAYHEM or Ferak. What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't fucking tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

SW's SilverHammer wrote:What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't **** tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

I agree that the CW Breakdown mold is... lacking in robot mode proportions, but he doesn't look too bad in all honesty. I'm more surprised at how soon they've revealed him

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't **** tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

I agree that the CW Breakdown mold is... lacking in robot mode proportions, but he doesn't look too bad in all honesty. I'm more surprised at how soon they've revealed him

I was thinking the same thing. Didn't they release last years set like a few weeks before botcon? I wonder why they did it so early

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't **** tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

Lost sight of it? So it was a clerical error? It was misfiled? Who? Who? Who do you mean, who? How could somebody misfile something? What could be easier? It's all alphabetical. You just put it in the right file! According to alphabetical order! You know, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, K, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z! That's all you have too do! I've never misfiled anything! Not once, not one time!

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't **** tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

Lost sight of it? So it was a clerical error? It was misfiled? Who? Who? Who do you mean, who? How could somebody misfile something? What could be easier? It's all alphabetical. You just put it in the right file! According to alphabetical order! You know, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, K, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z! That's all you have too do! I've never misfiled anything! Not once, not one time!

I believe you're blowing this a bit out of proportion aren't you? Things happen man, people make mistakes.

I wonder if this is to be an origin story for the Tripredacus Council and its agents.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

Idiotic question from n00b person: How about the Transmetals Cheetor mold? Even if they CAN'T retool it again to make a "Metals Ravage", but it may be possible to change his head to a more "Ravage-ish", right?

TFwiki wrote:This mold was retooled into Metals Jaguar and BotCon 2001's Tigatron, and slightly retooled to make Armada Cheetor.

Nah, nevermind...

steals_your_goats wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't **** tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

Lost sight of it? So it was a clerical error? It was misfiled? Who? Who? Who do you mean, who? How could somebody misfile something? What could be easier? It's all alphabetical. You just put it in the right file! According to alphabetical order! You know, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, K, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z! That's all you have too do! I've never misfiled anything! Not once, not one time!

I believe you're blowing this a bit out of proportion aren't you? Things happen man, people make mistakes.

Molds never just "go away"...The goddamn mold is somewhere in the goddamn fucking files!

So he's meant to emulate his appearance in Beast Wars... it kind of works, but I dunno', Ravage as a car is weird to me.

I don't hate it, but I wouldn't buy the box set just to get him.

Pretty interesting first round; definitely into the theme at least.
Lets see where round 2 takes us.

Am I the only one who likes the CW Breakdown mold? Maybe not for Ravage, but in general I think it's a good mold.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Am I the only one who likes the CW Breakdown mold? Maybe not for Ravage, but in general I think it's a good mold.

I like it, not a fan of the hips but other than that I don't mind it.

It looks like they took a Masters of the Universe figure's head and mounted it on an 80's knock-off GoBot.

I think this figure looks great personally.

The Breakdown mold never looked so good.

Randy

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:What they should've done is pull the original Metals Jaguar and retool the head. And Don't **** tell me "the molds too old, they can't use it" I'm sure they can figure something out, they pulled Dirgegun/Cyberwaspinator for TFSS 2.0

They actually lost sight of the X-9 Jaguar mold somewhere between 2001 and 2005, since they wanted to reissue him for BW 10th Anniversary.

Lost sight of it? So it was a clerical error? It was misfiled? Who? Who? Who do you mean, who? How could somebody misfile something? What could be easier? It's all alphabetical. You just put it in the right file! According to alphabetical order! You know, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, K, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z! That's all you have too do! I've never misfiled anything! Not once, not one time!

I believe you're blowing this a bit out of proportion aren't you? Things happen man, people make mistakes.

Molds never just "go away"...The goddamn mold is somewhere in the goddamn **** files!

Yup, they just don't know where it's currently located, is all. Things do get misplaced when shifting production inventory around between factory locations.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Am I the only one who likes the CW Breakdown mold? Maybe not for Ravage, but in general I think it's a good mold.

I like it too, all things set aside. It makes a good arm for me, and Sunstreaker really pulls off the look well for it. It works for me

Found this digibash of the Dustup version of the Dead End mold in grayscale with the Ravage head attached to it and I think the remolded fembot parts make it look a little nicer:

Sabrblade wrote:Found this digibash of the Dustup version of the Breakdown mold in grayscale with the Ravage head attached to it and I think the remolded fembot parts make it look a little nicer:

That's actually the dead end mold, but it does look nicer

A complicated head design in a figure with a confined space for that head to exist...this has not been an design approach that has worked well for the Club in the past.

Can anyone speak to how the QC process will work to avoid another potential misfire on a new head sculpt?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Am I the only one who likes the CW Breakdown mold? Maybe not for Ravage, but in general I think it's a good mold.

I like it too, all things set aside. It makes a good arm for me, and Sunstreaker really pulls off the look well for it. It works for me

I think it's got a fairly solid robot mode, an unremarkable but competent vehicle mode, and a great sword-gun. To me, arm mode is where it's weakest, since the single elbow joint can't hold up the forearm, let alone weapons, though I do give them points for effort. Granted, turning at the waist so that the arm works the same way as other combiner wars limbs would probably make the problem go away, but for some reason I don't want to do that.

I don't necessarily think the mold is right for Ravage, nor am I thrilled with the head, but since the first part of the Beast Wars homage that they're choosing to showcase is basically all G1 except the Predacon insignias, I'm thinking that's probably the larger issue here.

Counterpunch wrote:A complicated head design in a figure with a confined space for that head to exist...this has not been an design approach that has worked well for the Club in the past.

Can anyone speak to how the QC process will work to avoid another potential misfire on a new head sculpt?

Quoting this to put it on most recent page as I'd also like to know. The head looks too wide in the mockup to fit where it needs to.

First of all, this Ravage looks really nice, and the Lamborghini inspired alt mode is awesome in black, although the dead end mold probably would have fit better for his robot mode.

Second of all, the theme name seems to strongly suggest the inclusion of the Tripredacus guys. So, with them and Ravage, that would make 4 of the 5 figures already for the combiner. Are there any other characters associated with Tripredacus?