Deluxe Groove to seemingly be a Japan exclusive mold as part of Unite Warriors Guardian set
Thursday, May 21st, 2015 1:23PM CDT
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Third in a series, "Unite Warriors" that focuses on popular coalescence warrior of Transformers, with Tomy mall limited sale, Protectobots coalescence warrior "guardian" appeared of Cybertron!
Hot spot five bodies of the Grey's Street Wise First Aid groove comes with, it can be transformed into three modes of robot mode Vehicle mode combined form respectively.
In all character domestic addition to become the first mold, "groove" is unobtainable overseas completely new mold product!
It was verified that the lines in bold were not found in the listings for Unite Warriors Superion and Menasor. This means that unlike Wildrider and Slingshot, Hasbro will not be releasing their own version of this Deluxe Groove mold (as inferred from the text). This makes sense since they already have a Groove of their own, but of a different size. This does not mean that this mold will not be retooled in potential toys in the future, but it does seem that this particular Deluxe Groove will be a Japan exclusive, as it is said it will not be available overseas. So far, only Takara Tomy Mall have preorders for this Guardian set and it is unknown if other Japanese online retail sites will be offering him. Seibertron will strive to offer the latest developments on this. Do you interpret Takara's statement the same way? Make sure to discuss it in the Energon Pub.
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Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 1:26pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Awww hazelnuts
If he's available on amiami, I am ok. If Takara Tomy are making the set Takara Tomy Mall exclusive, then I will be PISSED! I guess that means if BBTS does sell this set, it will be at a significant markup due to how they will need a third party distributor to make the connection from Japan to America instead of bypassing the process and getting it directly from the vietnamese warehouse.
Posted by DoctorOblivian on May 21st, 2015 @ 1:40pm CDT
yo, people should make a huge stink at botcon the let hasbro know we REALLY want this.
Posted by Optimizzy on May 21st, 2015 @ 1:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Awww hazelnuts
If he's available on amiami, I am ok. If Takara Tomy are making the set Takara Tomy Mall exclusive, then I will be PISSED! I guess that means if BBTS does sell this set, it will be at a significant markup due to how they will need a third party distributor to make the connection from Japan to America instead of bypassing the process and getting it directly from the vietnamese warehouse.
well, I wasnt sold on "groove" but I do hope we get the mold. He looks pretty cool.
Posted by skidflap on May 21st, 2015 @ 1:40pm CDT
side question. do any of you think that Takara will release any of the new combiner team members in their line or will they only be exclusive to the US?
Posted by Deadput on May 21st, 2015 @ 1:58pm CDT
skidflap wrote:I can see this eventually becoming an online exclusive here in the states. Either way i can live with the legends version on Defensor's chest. Rook is an excellent limb anyways.
side question. do any of you think that Takara will release any of the new combiner team members in their line or will they only be exclusive to the US?
Except it won't since it says that it will not be available oversees.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on May 21st, 2015 @ 1:59pm CDT
Posted by Mkall on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:00pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:01pm CDT
That said... I wonder if the deluxe version could be retooled into a Junkion or four.... A junkion combiner... now there's an interesting idea. I wonder who could use to make the body. Hmmm... Just all wishful thinking, really, I guess.
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:05pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:07pm CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:To be honest,as much as I would like to have a bike as a limb, that is one hell of a huge bike. I mean think about it, a bike as big as an ambulance? They can keep that exclusive
Transformers G1 1986 Groove Gallery
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:09pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot
skidflap wrote:I can see this eventually becoming an online exclusive here in the states.
They are pretty clear about not available overseas. Don't know what else that could mean. And skidflap, that fine print is not present for the other combiners so we are not talking about a similar case to Wildrider and Slingshot. So we cant expect the same thing this time around.
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:10pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:15pm CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:This latest bit of potential news is a bit concerning... I hope Takara's Defensor isn't an exclusive and does get a regular retail release in Japan! I'm counting on it being available at retailers such as BBTS and TFSource for a price similar to what the other Unite Warriors sets are going for. If it is an exclusive, that could cause the price to jump up! I am hoping that that is just a misunderstanding of the rather loose translation.
I am also concerned. I am pretty sure it will get a regular release in Japan since that doesnt go against selling overseas. BUT I am really not sure about how BBTS will get a hold of it. It could go like the Alternity line where BBTS had to buy it at Japanese retail and resell it in the states.
As I said previously, if HLJ and Amiami also get this guy, I think it will be a decent trade off. They remain Japan exclusive that way. How do you interpret the translation?
Here is the original text, if someone reads japanese, let us know what it says:
トランスフォーマーの人気合体戦士に焦点を当てたシリーズ「ユナイトウォリアーズ」の第3弾は、タカラトミーモール限定販売で、サイバトロンのプロテクトボット合体戦士「ガーディアン」が登場!
ホットスポット・グレイズ・ストリートワイズ・ファーストエイド・グルーブの5体が付属し、それぞれロボットモード・ビークルモード・合体形態の3つのモードに変形可能。
全キャラクター国内では初の金型になることに加え、「グルーブ」は海外でも手に入らない完全新規金型商品!
手足のキャラクターは場所の入れ替えが可能で、同シリーズの「スぺリオン」や「メナゾール」とも互換性があります。
Posted by Robogeek1973 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:20pm CDT
Posted by Editor on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:22pm CDT
I do not believe that it is definitively saying that the Groove figure itself would not be sold by Hasbro.
So hope for the figure, Yes.
Hope for the full set, No.
Posted by Inaction on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:32pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:37pm CDT
Editor wrote:From the way it was presented I would say that this is a limited Japanese release where Takara will not accept foreign requests for the sets.
I do not believe that it is definitively saying that the Groove figure itself would not be sold by Hasbro.
So hope for the figure, Yes.
Hope for the full set, No.
That's quite odd. Why would Takara make Defensor a limited release, while the rest of the Unite Warriors offerings are mass retail? Is Defensor substantially less popular in Japan, or something? There is going to be a lot of demand for this set, like the two before it, for non-Takara markets, so why miss out on selling to foreign retailers and making even more money? Nothing about this makes any sense.
Posted by mooncake623 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:38pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot
I agree, I think this could be a mistranslation. Groove is a new mold, It could mean that Takara is releasing him first, doesn't mean that Hasbro won't. With Wildrider and Slingshot those are repaints with new heads... so let's see how this develops
Posted by Kibble on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:40pm CDT
Posted by grimdragon2001 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:48pm CDT
Posted by TheAmazingBrave on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:52pm CDT
Kibble wrote:That would be so racist if it wasn't released outside of Japan...
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:53pm CDT
Kibble wrote:That would be so racist if it wasn't released outside of Japan...
As opposed to every other takara exclusive product like the Alternity line and MP12? Was Prime Breakdown also a racist thing?
He can still be ordered off Takaratomymall (right?).
Robogeek1973 wrote:Groove looks phenomenal, I'm just sorry I'm going to hafta miss out on all of TakTom's combining goodness.
Why missing out, there are only marginally more expensive than the Hasbro versions:
Transformers Unite Warriors UW01 Superion
Transformers Unite Warriors UW02 Menasor
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on May 21st, 2015 @ 2:56pm CDT
Now I MUST own it!
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:03pm CDT
TheAmazingBrave wrote:So...... Combiner Wars Wreck-gar?
That was already confirmed a month ago. But it will probably use the Legends mold instead of this one.
grimdragon2001 wrote:ok, if Hasbro's excuse for not releasing Groove is that they have Legends Groove, let me remind everybody that we got a Legends Thundercracker and a Leader Thundercracker in the same line within months of each other. Not getting this to US fans would be the biggest failure this year for Hasbro
I think their excuse is that they already have a Groove who is part of the Defensor team. Neither Thundercrackers really come into play with the combiners so it's not a fair comparison. The interview with the head of Transformers even said their groove was made smaller to account for scale (ha!).
Posted by Optimizzy on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:21pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:TheAmazingBrave wrote:So...... Combiner Wars Wreck-gar?
That was already confirmed a month ago. But it will probably use the Legends mold instead of this one.grimdragon2001 wrote:ok, if Hasbro's excuse for not releasing Groove is that they have Legends Groove, let me remind everybody that we got a Legends Thundercracker and a Leader Thundercracker in the same line within months of each other. Not getting this to US fans would be the biggest failure this year for Hasbro
I think their excuse is that they already have a Groove who is part of the Defensor team. Neither Thundercrackers really come into play with the combiners so it's not a fair comparison. The interview with the head of Transformers even said their groove was made smaller to account for scale (ha!).
And I think we will get this mold and I'm sure it will be available in some form or another down the road. The issue may be they are making a distinction because breakneck and Quickslinger were released. Perhaps they mean that this mold will not see a hasbro version but just a Takara one. So, I don't see how that's that bad. Just have to order it like Prime Itonhide or Breakdown. If you really want it, you can get it. I think it looks great but I don't want it as groove.
Posted by philswitch engage on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:21pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot
and maybe with a different name, since that was the case with both of these figures.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:27pm CDT
philswitch engage wrote:Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot
and maybe with a different name, since that was the case with both of these figures.
Except that was for trademark reasons. Groove has no such issue.
Posted by Kibble on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kibble wrote:That would be so racist if it wasn't released outside of Japan...
As opposed to every other takara exclusive product like the Alternity line and MP12? Was Prime Breakdown also a racist thing?
Defending this racism makes you a racist too...you and picture boy!
Posted by wackymidget on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:48pm CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:To be honest,as much as I would like to have a bike as a limb, that is one hell of a huge bike. I mean think about it, a bike as big as an ambulance? They can keep that exclusive
Because a jeep the size of a space shuttle is not ridiculous out of scale?
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:49pm CDT
Kibble wrote:Defending this racism makes you a racist too...you and picture boy!
(Reply if your various cries of racism are some strange jest.)
That's picture man, thank you!
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(Reply if your various cries of racism are intended at face value.)
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(Stunned silence.)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:54pm CDT
Don't need this that bad to warrant spending the takara gift set price to get it.
Prepared to have the faith and wait forever for Hasbro America to maybe release this.
Posted by Moosey on May 21st, 2015 @ 3:56pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:03pm CDT
That smells like bad translation, sorta like the "No Available in stores" line that you see on ads... in this case meaning TakTom made this. I wouldnt be suprised if Groove goes the way of the Go! Autobots, but I think thats an off translation. Could be wrong.
Posted by Rated X on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:09pm CDT
Mkall wrote:Translations can often be misinterpretted. I'm willing to bet they'll do a release similar to Wildrider and Slingshot
Agreed.
If it dosent make $$$ then it doesent make cents.
Those going to Botcon shold bring it up at the Hasbro pannel. But dont ask for a deluxe Groove, demand one.
Posted by Kibble on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:10pm CDT
Yotsuyasan wrote:(Reply if your various cries of racism are some strange jest.)
That's picture man, thank you!
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(Reply if your various cries of racism are intended at face value.)
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(Stunned silence.)
It's the former, picture man (hence the little tongue guy)...but I liked your reply nonetheless.
Though, I was tempted to post "Silence, picture man!" to keep it going...
Posted by Shuttershock on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:12pm CDT
TheAmazingBrave wrote:So...... Combiner Wars Wreck-gar?
I'd go for a Combiner Wars Sideways.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:13pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote: So, I don't see how that's that bad. Just have to order it like Prime Itonhide or Breakdown.
The Takara Unite warriors are only available in gift sets. you can't just order a singular unite warrior character toy.
It's going to be expensive getting this. Not only due to Takara import gift set prices. Also due to the exclusive release of this.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:15pm CDT
Shuttershock wrote:TheAmazingBrave wrote:So...... Combiner Wars Wreck-gar?
I'd go for a Combiner Wars Sideways.
Think unite Deluxe Groove will get repurposed into CW Afterburner.
Posted by Shuttershock on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:18pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Shuttershock wrote:TheAmazingBrave wrote:So...... Combiner Wars Wreck-gar?
I'd go for a Combiner Wars Sideways.
Think unite Deluxe Groove will get repurposed into CW Afterburner.
Oh, most certainly. But we can always dream.
In my head he'd go good with Galvatronus, one herald to another.
Posted by griftimus prime on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:34pm CDT
this reminds me of prime breakdown and dotm soundwave.
Posted by Evil Eye on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:36pm CDT
HAHAHA
HAHA
*snort*
HAAAA
Guess you're going to have to give ol' Rook a chance after all.
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:47pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:We KNEW Defensor would be a gift set since Menasor and Superion. That shouldnt be news, and tht Groove would be in that set is the obvious next step, no?
That smells like bad translation, sorta like the "No Available in stores" line that you see on ads... in this case meaning TakTom made this. I wouldnt be suprised if Groove goes the way of the Go! Autobots, but I think thats an off translation. Could be wrong.
I hope its a bad translation because right now it seems that not only would it be Japan exclusive as a box set as we thought Slingshot and Wildrider would be (which I was fine with) but it seems this would also be exclusive to Takara Tomy Mall, Takara's own web store. Meaning that we wouldnt get our nice cheap preorders we can usually find for the japan exclusive stuff.
Question guys, can someone outside Japan order from Takara Tomy Mall? Because if yes, then it's still not as bad as those Cloud figures which were retailer exclusives and Japan exclusives (while Breakdown was just Japan exclusive which is not a big deal in today's internet age and cheap preorders)
Posted by Autobot032 on May 21st, 2015 @ 4:56pm CDT
This better not be an Arms Micron Breakdown all over again. That's a ridiculous hoop to jump through.
Posted by william-james88 on May 21st, 2015 @ 5:02pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:So...as of right now, this is a Japan only exclusive, according to the rough translation. If that's the case, then Hasbro is incredibly stupid because he'd be a guaranteed sale for the majority of collectors and fans.
This better not be an Arms Micron Breakdown all over again. That's a ridiculous hoop to jump through.
Might be worse. At least Breakdown wasn't retailer exclusive(was he? I dont think so). This set might be a TakaraTomyMall exclusive, kinda like how the Cloud figures were E Hobby Exclusives.
Which would kinda be nuts since this is a whole new mold. To anyone out there (Sabr or Jelze), is there a precedent for a wholly new mold to be retailer exclusive? I can only think of exclusive repaints and maybe retools but not fully new molds.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on May 21st, 2015 @ 5:07pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 21st, 2015 @ 5:33pm CDT
Plus, I really like Rook. I'm keeping the IDW configuration and won't be getting the G1 exclusives. Just looks good to me. Besides, I'm sure we'll get the mold later on, so I still look forward to getting it!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 21st, 2015 @ 5:33pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote::lol: dip CW Deluxe afterburner in bleach and you've got CW Deluxe Groove.
BRILLIANT!!!
Posted by Yotsuyasan on May 21st, 2015 @ 5:43pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Question guys, can someone outside Japan order from Takara Tomy Mall?
Well, not a huge surprise, but it seems not. I just struggled my way through their registration page. Even had to figure out my name in kana since there is a spot where they specifically want it in kana. (Apparently, unless the translation software I was using is wacked -- which is entirely possible -- I am アタニアン マシュー.)
So everything should be fine and dandy... except I cannot fill out the state/province line (since the only options are Japanese ones), and it also does not recognize my U.S. zip code as a valid postal code.
So it seems you can only register for the website if you have a Japanese mailing address with which to register.
Incidentally, Defensor is already up on their website. He's listed at ¥16,200, which is the same that they have Superion and Menasor listed for. So at least he won't be more expensive then them to purchase. The only issue will be the mark-up if we have to pay someone else to buy them for us.
Posted by Optimizzy on May 21st, 2015 @ 5:49pm CDT