Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella
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In the latest Hasbro Pulse newsletter, we have an in-depth chat with Hasbro Transformers toy designer Sean Carmine Isabella, talking about two characters part of the cast of animated series Transformers: Robots in Disguise: Starscream and Blurr. The two were added to the aesthetic of the show, while keeping some of their G1 elements (and some of Prime's, in the Decepticon's case) - check out below to find out more!
Epic Redesigns: Retrofitting Starscream & Blur into “Robots In Disguise”
Tapping into the rich history of Transformers lore, famed G1 Decepticon, Starscream, and heroic Autobot, Blur, are getting a Robots In Disguise overhaul. So what exactly went into detailing these classic characters? We went right to the source for the answers—Hasbro Senior Product Designer on Transformers, Sean Carmine Isabella.
About the Designer:
Designing many of his favorite childhood characters, Isabella builds new play experiences for the next generation of thinkers and explorers. Before he worked on heroic robots battling the forces of evil, Sean designed toys for brands such as Littlest Pet Shop, Easy Bake Oven, and FurReal Friends.
So, why Starscream?
“Being an ‘80s kid, the idea of high flying fighter jets always sparked my imagination. No one encapsulated this for the Deceptions better than Starscream. Drawing jets and spaceships is something of a hobby for me so getting the opportunity to work on reimagining a classic character, (and a jet no less!) was a dream come true.”
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What elements of the G1 Starscream sculpt inspired this redesign?
“We wanted to hold onto certain iconic design traits to maintain his epic look—such as his chest exhaust design, graphic pattern on his wing, his overall color scheme, and his twin null ray blasters.”
What was your motivation behind Blur’s build?
“Blur’s a fast talking, speed loving Autobot. We wanted his design to evoke the same sense of speed to be true to the core of the character.”
Was there a specific G1 element you focused on keeping or updating?
“We looked at his classic Cybertronian mode that debuted in the 1986 film and reimagined how this vehicle mode would exist in a modern Earth setting.”
The GI connections certainly don’t stop with these bots. Tune in to Transformers: Robots In Disguise to find out if some of your favorites are getting a modern makeover.
Credit(s): Hasbro Pulse
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Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859492)
Posted by Bronzewolf on February 14th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CST
Posted by Bronzewolf on February 14th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CST
Happy Va'alentines day, Seibertronians! Today, thanks to Scottimus, we have our first reported sighting of the first wave of Robots In Disguise Combiner Force 1-Step changers at U.S. retail! This wave consists of Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, Drift, Sideswipe, and new cast member Blurr! Check out the provided images below and tell us if you've seen anything new at retail in the comments below!
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859496)
Posted by Kurona on February 14th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CST
Posted by Kurona on February 14th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CST
Hm. It's a shame they only focused on asking about the G1 elements because I'd be interested to know what other incarnations they considered.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859501)
Posted by william-james88 on February 14th, 2017 @ 2:48pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 14th, 2017 @ 2:48pm CST
Are you fans eager to find Robots in Disguise Soundwave in stores soon? Well, if you are in the UK then it might be sooner than you think. TFW2005 user hellhound has found this RiD Warrior wave featuring Soundwave & Blurr in Sainsbury, UK. The specific breakdown of the wave can be found here and also features a masked Windblade toy and Skywarp.
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Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 14th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 14th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CST
Soundwave looks so AWESOME. I haven't gotten one RiD toy so far, and this guy might break that.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859507)
Posted by Nexus Knight on February 14th, 2017 @ 3:18pm CST
Posted by Nexus Knight on February 14th, 2017 @ 3:18pm CST
Huh. That package artwork makes his face look less Prime-esque and more G1 with Prime influences. Not that I'm complaining. It looks abso-freakin'-lutely beautiful and a toy I have to add to my (admittedly only toy figures) RiD collection.
Especially since my Cyberverse Beast Hunters Soundwave toy got broke and lost an arm.
Yeah, especially if Blurr is coming over from Rescue Bots. It feels like that show had just as much to do w/ the design for his new toy as G1 did.
Especially since my Cyberverse Beast Hunters Soundwave toy got broke and lost an arm.
Kurona wrote:Hm. It's a shame they only focused on asking about the G1 elements because I'd be interested to know what other incarnations they considered.
Yeah, especially if Blurr is coming over from Rescue Bots. It feels like that show had just as much to do w/ the design for his new toy as G1 did.
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Posted by PrymeStriker on February 14th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CST
You're silly. G1 is the only thing that matters in Transformers history, and nothing else was as important or better than G1. G1 reigns supreeeme All hail the G1 Gods, local raindances on Tuesdays @ 7 PM. Bring your mail-in Reflector toys!
Posted by PrymeStriker on February 14th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CST
Nexus Knight wrote:Yeah, especially if Blurr is coming over from Rescue Bots. It feels like that show had just as much to do w/ the design for his new toy as G1 did.
You're silly. G1 is the only thing that matters in Transformers history, and nothing else was as important or better than G1. G1 reigns supreeeme All hail the G1 Gods, local raindances on Tuesdays @ 7 PM. Bring your mail-in Reflector toys!
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859570)
Posted by RAR on February 14th, 2017 @ 8:55pm CST
Posted by RAR on February 14th, 2017 @ 8:55pm CST
That is Combiner Force One steps Wave 2 surely as Blurr & Sideswipe isn't in Wave 1.
Also there is going to be such a glut of Grimlocks what with him being repacked in two waves in a row - a Bumblebee might have made more sense to re-issue.
I can't help but see a lot more Rescue Bots Blurr in the RID Blurr than I can G1 Blurr the colours and head are kinda G1ish - but if they repaint him purple sometime (or make the rescue bots one in blue) then the similarity will be really nailed home. let me put it this way if I was of a mind to paint the wheel rims I'd consider painting them greenish/yellow in honour of the Rescue Bots toy.
Also there is going to be such a glut of Grimlocks what with him being repacked in two waves in a row - a Bumblebee might have made more sense to re-issue.
I can't help but see a lot more Rescue Bots Blurr in the RID Blurr than I can G1 Blurr the colours and head are kinda G1ish - but if they repaint him purple sometime (or make the rescue bots one in blue) then the similarity will be really nailed home. let me put it this way if I was of a mind to paint the wheel rims I'd consider painting them greenish/yellow in honour of the Rescue Bots toy.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 14th, 2017 @ 9:05pm CST
You sure about that? That's the first any of these new molds have been sighted. Their product codes should be in sequence as well.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 14th, 2017 @ 9:05pm CST
RAR wrote:That is Combiner Force One steps Wave 2 surely as Blurr & Sideswipe isn't in Wave 1.
You sure about that? That's the first any of these new molds have been sighted. Their product codes should be in sequence as well.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859626)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 14th, 2017 @ 11:28pm CST
Now if someone doesn't know this is sarcasm, I'll cry for you.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on February 14th, 2017 @ 11:28pm CST
PrymeStriker wrote:Nexus Knight wrote:Yeah, especially if Blurr is coming over from Rescue Bots. It feels like that show had just as much to do w/ the design for his new toy as G1 did.
You're silly. G1 is the only thing that matters in Transformers history, and nothing else was as important or better than G1. G1 reigns supreeeme All hail the G1 Gods, local raindances on Tuesdays @ 7 PM. Bring your mail-in Reflector toys!
Now if someone doesn't know this is sarcasm, I'll cry for you.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859629)
Posted by RAR on February 14th, 2017 @ 11:43pm CST
Well there is a possibility that the waves are different in the UK but the UK wave one is something like this.
Quillfire (new packet)
Springload (new packet)
Arctic Sideswipe (new packet)
Drift (new mould)
Bumblebee (new mould)
Optimus (new mould)
They have the same ones in ASDA & Sainsburys.
Now it's not impossible they may have rejigged the assortments - all I can say is that Blurr and red (mould type 3) Sideswipe are not in that wave here.
Posted by RAR on February 14th, 2017 @ 11:43pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:RAR wrote:That is Combiner Force One steps Wave 2 surely as Blurr & Sideswipe isn't in Wave 1.
You sure about that? That's the first any of these new molds have been sighted. Their product codes should be in sequence as well.
Well there is a possibility that the waves are different in the UK but the UK wave one is something like this.
Quillfire (new packet)
Springload (new packet)
Arctic Sideswipe (new packet)
Drift (new mould)
Bumblebee (new mould)
Optimus (new mould)
They have the same ones in ASDA & Sainsburys.
Now it's not impossible they may have rejigged the assortments - all I can say is that Blurr and red (mould type 3) Sideswipe are not in that wave here.
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Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 12:40am CST
While Europe getting special assortments isn't unheard of, it does follow the US ones for general retail. I guess the US skipped the first wave and headed straight into the second. I'd still like the product numbers tho, they should be on the bottom near the bar codes, or near the copyright and/or mold ID stamps on the actual toys.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 12:40am CST
RAR wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:RAR wrote:That is Combiner Force One steps Wave 2 surely as Blurr & Sideswipe isn't in Wave 1.
You sure about that? That's the first any of these new molds have been sighted. Their product codes should be in sequence as well.
Well there is a possibility that the waves are different in the UK but the UK wave one is something like this.
Quillfire (new packet)
Springload (new packet)
Arctic Sideswipe (new packet)
Drift (new mould)
Bumblebee (new mould)
Optimus (new mould)
They have the same ones in ASDA & Sainsburys.
Now it's not impossible they may have rejigged the assortments - all I can say is that Blurr and red (mould type 3) Sideswipe are not in that wave here.
While Europe getting special assortments isn't unheard of, it does follow the US ones for general retail. I guess the US skipped the first wave and headed straight into the second. I'd still like the product numbers tho, they should be on the bottom near the bar codes, or near the copyright and/or mold ID stamps on the actual toys.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859651)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:41am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:41am CST
I can't beleive that Soundwave will JUST be limited to Sainsburys, surely eventually other stores like Asda, Tesco & Smyths will get him in
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/02/14/robo ... ers-333381
Ok! this is getting daft now! even though it's for the ap...we know we'll eventually be getting toys out of these(we're already getting a cyclonus) why are they just reusing characters that we've already seen & gotten with Combiner Wars?(Menasor, Galvatronus....which btw...this RID Cyclonus is legion class...so is waay too small to become a torso for a combiner!) instead it would've made more sense to get the combiners that we DIDN'T get with CW for Combiner Force....namely Predaking, Abominus, Monstructor, Piranacon, Road Caesar, Landcross(i think there's a Titans Return one coming?), Landfill & Raiden
coz the way Combiner Force is going....its looking like we may also get Superion, Defensor, Computron, Bruticus, Devastator & Liokaiser all over again! so soon after we not long got those with CW.
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/02/14/robo ... ers-333381
Ok! this is getting daft now! even though it's for the ap...we know we'll eventually be getting toys out of these(we're already getting a cyclonus) why are they just reusing characters that we've already seen & gotten with Combiner Wars?(Menasor, Galvatronus....which btw...this RID Cyclonus is legion class...so is waay too small to become a torso for a combiner!) instead it would've made more sense to get the combiners that we DIDN'T get with CW for Combiner Force....namely Predaking, Abominus, Monstructor, Piranacon, Road Caesar, Landcross(i think there's a Titans Return one coming?), Landfill & Raiden
coz the way Combiner Force is going....its looking like we may also get Superion, Defensor, Computron, Bruticus, Devastator & Liokaiser all over again! so soon after we not long got those with CW.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 8:55am CST
Hey Stuart, I only saw this post because I was gonna post here about that news. Next time you see news like this, please send us an e-mail so that we can get to it quicker. To send us an e-mail, just click the link in my signature. Thanks!
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 8:55am CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:I can't beleive that Soundwave will JUST be limited to Sainsburys, surely eventually other stores like Asda, Tesco & Smyths will get him in
http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/02/14/robo ... ers-333381
Ok! this is getting daft now! even though it's for the ap...we know we'll eventually be getting toys out of these(we're already getting a cyclonus) why are they just reusing characters that we've already seen & gotten with Combiner Wars?(Menasor, Galvatronus....which btw...this RID Cyclonus is legion class...so is waay too small to become a torso for a combiner!) instead it would've made more sense to get the combiners that we DIDN'T get with CW for Combiner Force....namely Predaking, Abominus, Monstructor, Piranacon, Road Caesar, Landcross(i think there's a Titans Return one coming?), Landfill & Raiden
coz the way Combiner Force is going....its looking like we may also get Superion, Defensor, Computron, Bruticus, Devastator & Liokaiser all over again! so soon after we not long got those with CW.
Hey Stuart, I only saw this post because I was gonna post here about that news. Next time you see news like this, please send us an e-mail so that we can get to it quicker. To send us an e-mail, just click the link in my signature. Thanks!
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859680)
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:06am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:06am CST
It has been a long time we didnt get new toy reveals through the Robots in Disguise App. It seems it is making up for lost time sinc we finally have our first look at not just 1, or 2, but 3 combiners:
Ultra Bee, Menasor and (hold onto your buts) Galvatronus!
There are also new Combiners/Activators: Soundwave & Torpedo Laserbeak (which we have already seen in toy form) and Optimus Prime & High Test.
We also finally see Dragbreak (which looks pretty much as you would expect), as well as Lunar Force Primestrong and Shocknado, which both appear to be redecos.
Let us know what you think of the designs. Remember that the combiners have been found to be at the 30$-35$ price point so that may explain why they look like simplified transforming toys with no individual robot modes, more along the power rangers zord concept.
Hopefulyl we will get a better look at these this coming saturday at the 2017 New York Toy Fair.
Ultra Bee, Menasor and (hold onto your buts) Galvatronus!
There are also new Combiners/Activators: Soundwave & Torpedo Laserbeak (which we have already seen in toy form) and Optimus Prime & High Test.
We also finally see Dragbreak (which looks pretty much as you would expect), as well as Lunar Force Primestrong and Shocknado, which both appear to be redecos.
Let us know what you think of the designs. Remember that the combiners have been found to be at the 30$-35$ price point so that may explain why they look like simplified transforming toys with no individual robot modes, more along the power rangers zord concept.
Hopefulyl we will get a better look at these this coming saturday at the 2017 New York Toy Fair.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:19am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:19am CST
So, Galvatronus could be Cyclonus's endgame, using his mind control powers to not only manipulate the Council, but to also make himself a combiner. My theory, at least.
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
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Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:21am CST
Wouldnt be the first time they reuse that character model in this show.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:21am CST
Sabrblade wrote:So, Galvatronus could be Cyclonus's endgame, using his mind control powers to not only manipulate the Council, but to also make himself a combiner. My theory, at least.
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
Wouldnt be the first time they reuse that character model in this show.
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Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
They are! jet vehicons tbh
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:22am CST
Sabrblade wrote:So, Galvatronus could be Cyclonus's endgame, using his mind control powers to not only manipulate the Council, but to also make himself a combiner. My theory, at least.
Though, look closely at Galvatronus's arms. Don't they look kinda like blue-colored Vehicons?
They are! jet vehicons tbh
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Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:28am CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:28am CST
This news certainly has me wondering how these toys will work. The torsos on the bigger Combiners, and the fact that they have crash in their name, lead me to believe they will be closer to the two bot Combiners we've already seen with a similar gimmick. But I'm wondering how those arms will work. Any speculation?
Maybe mildly disappointed that they are not more in line with Warrior toys, but I was also pleasantly satisfied with Primestrong. The gimmick reminds me of the old days.
Hope they show these this weekend.
Maybe mildly disappointed that they are not more in line with Warrior toys, but I was also pleasantly satisfied with Primestrong. The gimmick reminds me of the old days.
Hope they show these this weekend.
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:29am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:29am CST
We could be looking at something more along the lines of the Power Core Combiners.
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Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:32am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:32am CST
Menasor, Bee Combiner & Cyclonus will deffo be there, dunno about the rest?
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Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:35am CST
Plenty. I smell Powr Core Combienrs all over. So it would be a car and when you plug it, it turns into an arm. Or you hae to do a simple transformation into an arm, like power ranger zords.
I am sure kids will love this.
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:35am CST
Cobotron wrote:This news certainly has me wondering how these toys will work. The torsos on the bigger Combiners, and the fact that they have crash in their name, lead me to believe they will be closer to the two bot Combiners we've already seen with a similar gimmick. But I'm wondering how those arms will work. Any speculation?
Plenty. I smell Powr Core Combienrs all over. So it would be a car and when you plug it, it turns into an arm. Or you hae to do a simple transformation into an arm, like power ranger zords.
I am sure kids will love this.
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Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:41am CST
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:41am CST
Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
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Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:43am CST
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:43am CST
So it's interesting to not that the Activator Combiner Bumblebee has the Stealthforce mode and the 3 step seems to be stuck in that mode and doesn't even have the ability to fold up into a proper car at all. just as Optimus' new 3 step can not fold it's guns away.
So it seem the Activator Combiner Optimus is very like the 3-step just like is the case with Bumblebee too where the 3-step and Activator combiner are also very similar.
I'd wish they'd done a few more new moulds before starting on the crash combiner repaints though. I'd not minded a Decepticon repaint at all but just a random colour change - I hope will at least reference something in the story to have an excuse to exist.
So it seem the Activator Combiner Optimus is very like the 3-step just like is the case with Bumblebee too where the 3-step and Activator combiner are also very similar.
I'd wish they'd done a few more new moulds before starting on the crash combiner repaints though. I'd not minded a Decepticon repaint at all but just a random colour change - I hope will at least reference something in the story to have an excuse to exist.
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Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:44am CST
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation (and neither do Power Ranger zords)
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:44am CST
Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation
(and neither do Power Ranger zords)
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Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:45am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:45am CST
Some zords and megazords of the past have had some kind of articulation.william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation
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Posted by kurthy on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:46am CST
Posted by kurthy on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:46am CST
Wait, why would we hold on to our 'buts'? But I like the word 'but' even though there's nothing to hold on to, as 'but' is a conjunction, not a physical object like a cigarette butt.
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Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:47am CST
I agree too though that, "The kids will love'em". Oh the kids.
EDIT:
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:47am CST
True, true. I was thinking of shoulder articulation mostly. These could be really good or really not. Only time can tell.william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:Oh! PCC. I could see that. Maybe that style of combining would offer up a little more articulation.
If there is automorphing, then you usually get less articulation. The PCC toys had no articulation
I agree too though that, "The kids will love'em". Oh the kids.
EDIT:
Ya. Come to think of it, I have a few older ones with elbows.Sabrblade wrote:]Some zords and megazords of the past have had some kind of articulation.
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Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST
Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.
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Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
Kurona wrote:Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.
Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though
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Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:55am CST
The mechanims in the PCC drones did inhibit motion and so cause a lack of functional elbows but they had fully mobile shoulders and some had opening hands. you can certainly pose them a lot they have waists, usually pretty mobile heads, knees, decent enough hips and so on.
I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859713)
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:57am CST
I say so because of the fan-created part - of the many things fans chose for Victorion (like her gender, faction, component vehicles etc.) was what her rival should be. And - while this has unfortunately barely shown up in fiction at all yet - the fans chose Galvatronus to be her rival.
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:57am CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:Kurona wrote:Galvatronus I can't say I was expecting... peeps are gonna hate me for this, but I'm kind of expecting Victorion now.
Aye but was that not a fan selected or fan created one though
I say so because of the fan-created part - of the many things fans chose for Victorion (like her gender, faction, component vehicles etc.) was what her rival should be. And - while this has unfortunately barely shown up in fiction at all yet - the fans chose Galvatronus to be her rival.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859715)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:59am CST
Posted by Sigma Magnus on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:59am CST
While this is neat, and I'm excited to see the toys...those character models for the larger combiners look absolutely awful. 
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859716)
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:00am CST
I'm doubting these RID Combos will have knees.
Posted by Cobotron on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:00am CST
Ya. They did have knees, and the ports as articulation worked pretty well. I know PCC was not well loved, but I think they are pretty neat toys. Toys being the key word.RAR wrote:The mechanims in the PCC drones did inhibit motion and so cause a lack of functional elbows but they had fully mobile shoulders and some had opening hands. you can certainly pose them a lot they have waists, usually pretty mobile heads, knees, decent enough hips and so on.
I would be shocked if the $35.00 Combiners are that well jointed. I'm sure they will be an interesting talking point though.
I'm doubting these RID Combos will have knees.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859717)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:04am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:04am CST
I hope they don't go all PCC, i can't remember if that pic we saw of Grimlock half transformed that would form the bottom half of the Bee Combiner has just two modes....his dinosaur & Bee's Combiner legs or if he has a robot mode
If it's just the two....then it'll prob be all PCC like
If it's just the two....then it'll prob be all PCC like
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859723)
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:16am CST
Posted by RAR on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:16am CST
I guess I like them as they were what I keep saying I want "Original Characters". and they had Minicons too which is always nice.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859724)
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:18am CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:18am CST
What worries me is how that Grimlock component looks to be just the legs, where's the rest of him?!
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859728)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:27am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:27am CST
I see Grimlock's beast mode head, neck, torso, and arms. Looks like his tail disappears where the combiner feet are.william-james88 wrote:What worries me is how that Grimlock component looks to be just the legs, where's the rest of him?!
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859733)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:46am CST
So it looks like we're getting 2 different sizes of Cyclonus then! one Legion & one larger that forms the torso of the combiner
it can't & it won't! but wouldn't it be funny if the legion Cyclonus could form one of the limbs of Galvatronus
it can't & it won't! but wouldn't it be funny if the legion Cyclonus could form one of the limbs of Galvatronus
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859734)
Posted by MrBlack on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:49am CST
Posted by MrBlack on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:49am CST
The in-game models don't seem to look much like the images on the left side of each picture (which look more like in-show models). The Soundwave on the left, for instance, has a face much more reminiscent of his G1 look than the more Prime-esque look on the in-game model.
More importantly, take a look at the highlighted images on the left for Shocknado and Galvatronus. Shocknado looks much more like G1 Galvatron, while Galvatronus looks more like G1 Cyclonus, or at least an amalgam of Cyclonus and Galvatron.
More importantly, take a look at the highlighted images on the left for Shocknado and Galvatronus. Shocknado looks much more like G1 Galvatron, while Galvatronus looks more like G1 Cyclonus, or at least an amalgam of Cyclonus and Galvatron.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859738)
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 11:02am CST
Posted by Kurona on February 15th, 2017 @ 11:02am CST
Also, how have we not said anything about this yet?
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859753)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 15th, 2017 @ 12:11pm CST
Pretty sure the left side ones are from the toys' packaging art.MrBlack wrote:The in-game models don't seem to look much like the images on the left side of each picture (which look more like in-show models). The Soundwave on the left, for instance, has a face much more reminiscent of his G1 look than the more Prime-esque look on the in-game model.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859790)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CST
Lunar Force Combiner? Sounds like an exclusive line of redecos. Target maybe? Or perhaps Walmart finally gets a shot 
Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?
Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.
We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?
Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.
I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again
Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?
Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.
We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?
Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.
I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859794)
Posted by Bronzewolf on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:24pm CST
Thank you! They do look terrible. Those legs are like toothpicks.
I approve. Shocknado is an awesome name. Be interesting to see who he/she is.
Posted by Bronzewolf on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:24pm CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:While this is neat, and I'm excited to see the toys...those character models for the larger combiners look absolutely awful.
Thank you! They do look terrible. Those legs are like toothpicks.
Kurona wrote:Also, how have we not said anything about this yet?
I approve. Shocknado is an awesome name. Be interesting to see who he/she is.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859802)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CST
Eh the legs are vehicons(unless it's two halves of a vehicon) that's why they have wheels
Posted by Stuartmaximus on February 15th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Lunar Force Combiner? Sounds like an exclusive line of redecos. Target maybe? Or perhaps Walmart finally gets a shot
Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Dragbreak... Guess I was wrong, it is a single pack, with Drag Strip/Dragstar and Wildbreak. What are the odds of seeing the other two?
Hi-Test is partnered with Combiner Optimus Prime, guess that comes close to a "Hi-Q" reference.
We already know about Activator Combiner Soundwave, but why is Laserbeak classified as a Torpedo and not as an Activator?
Galvatronus should indeed be Cyclonus... but what intrigues me is that he seems to have 5 members instead of the predicted 4 for the rest. Also, each limb has a different accent color. The arms are indeed Air/Jet Vehicons, so the legs must be another type.
I wonder how the legs work on Menasor. And "Ultrabee"... *groans* Bumblebee's inability to come up with something cool strikes again
Eh the legs are vehicons(unless it's two halves of a vehicon) that's why they have wheels
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859823)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on February 15th, 2017 @ 6:48pm CST
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on February 15th, 2017 @ 6:48pm CST
UltraBee sounds better than my thought of Bumblelock Strongswipe
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859855)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CST
Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 15th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CST
RAR wrote:rockman_fan wrote:good lord that sideswipe looks bad. his torso is literally a flat panel screwed onto a frame. and not even screwed on right, his legs are misaligned.
It's nice to see some rotation in a One-step you don't often get that.
It looks like the knees up are on a hinge system so the chest is the nose of the car and I like the elbows he has - it seems he spins at the knees.
But I really would prefer some more Decepticons - heck they could do a much better job with Thunderhoof - or at least repaint him a bit.
They never made a Megatronus One step so that would be worth doing as would Starscream.
I think that Shark one would work really well as a one-step too.
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P.S.
This is now 5 One-step RID Bumblebee (2 Scissor,2 butterfly, and an unfold type).
4 Sideswipe (2 butterfly, one sort of Scissor and a rotate and chest pop type)
3 Optimus Prime (Flipchanger ish one, one which is mainly just moving his hands and standing it up, and an unfold like one) I would have expected one be made in white but they've not done that yet surprisingly.
2 Drift (One scissor and one butterfly)
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So I'll say what I usually do - make more Decepticons and make Jazz.
Also why not make Rescue Bots onesteps in with the RID line ?
Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859859)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:12pm CST
The first is the switchblade type, the second is the car jack type, and it's the third that has the rotation. Twist the back spoiler and the whole body from the knees up twists along.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 15th, 2017 @ 10:12pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Which Sideswipe featured the rotation? Also Blurr and the newer Sideswipe are part of the Combiner Force Wave 2 One-Step Changers. Bee, Drift, and Prime are wave one.
The first is the switchblade type, the second is the car jack type, and it's the third that has the rotation. Twist the back spoiler and the whole body from the knees up twists along.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859882)
Posted by RAR on February 16th, 2017 @ 2:00am CST
Posted by RAR on February 16th, 2017 @ 2:00am CST
Yep.
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1859935)
Posted by Evil Eye on February 16th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 16th, 2017 @ 9:53am CST
Part of me wanted to believe in the possibility of CW-compatible RID styled Stunticons (and thus a non-terrible Menasor torso be available) but it looks like they're going for both the legs being formed from one robot. And on top of that, even if by some miracle they were CW compatible, they'd be even flimsier than CW toys.
Argh. Being a combiner fan who doesn't like CW sucks. I just want good CHUG scaled combiners, damnit!
Argh. Being a combiner fan who doesn't like CW sucks. I just want good CHUG scaled combiners, damnit!
Re: Designing Transformers: Robots in Disguise Starscream and Blurr, with Sean Carmine Isabella (1860035)
Posted by Emerje on February 16th, 2017 @ 4:50pm CST
Unlikely that Hasbro would name a new character something as generic and hard to copyright as "tornado". Probably be something else that ends in "-nado" like Terrornado or Speednado.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 16th, 2017 @ 4:50pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Shocknado looks like a redeco of Skyhammer, and a Decepticon one at that. Shockwave/Shockblast and Tornado is what I'll be guessing for the names.
Unlikely that Hasbro would name a new character something as generic and hard to copyright as "tornado". Probably be something else that ends in "-nado" like Terrornado or Speednado.
Emerje
