Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki

Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki

Sunday, April 5th, 2015 9:40pm CDT

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To mark the 15th Anniversary of Car Robots, what we called Robots in Disguise in the west, Takara designer Hisashi Yuki tweeted out an initial draft sketch of what would become Fire Convoy (Optimus Prime). As you can see below, it shows off some very cool design cues that were not carried over to the toy, like the Maximal insignia on his chest (this was the first time the Transformers brand was going back to Autobots and Decepticons since Beast Wars). Yuki was the designer for Fire Convoy / Optimus Prime and the gallery of the toy can be found here,

Transformers News: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki

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This article was last modified on Monday, April 6th, 2015 6:23am CDT

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Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671594)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 5th, 2015 @ 9:59pm CDT
Give this man a minute and he can create a work of engineering art! If he did MP-Megatron in a week or so, what more if you give him a month?
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671614)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 5th, 2015 @ 11:12pm CDT
Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671616)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2015 @ 11:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)



Haha! I think Air Attack Optimus Primal is all the fuel we need for that ;)

Probably the best bio I ever read:

He is a hero from the future, whose courage, skill and wisdom are needed again, to lead the Autobots in their fight against Megatron and his evil plans for the planet Earth. Wise and strong, Optimus Primal councils Optimus Prime in the ways of defensive combat and serves as custodian of freedom. Helps others find their own strength to keep fighting despiste the odds. Brave and intelligent, he belives wholeheartedly in his cause and lights the fires of justice and truth in others.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671640)
Posted by Emerje on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:23am CDT
The placement of the symbol on his chest makes me wonder if they had at one point intended for him to be the same character or perhaps somehow related to Lio Convoy. It's interesting to see him looking so G1 (head, square chest window, grill abs) despite being a Maximal. I guess if this is an early sketch it would make sense that he would look to existing figures and characters for a little inspiration.

Emerje
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671643)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 6th, 2015 @ 12:33am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671646)
Posted by Flashwave on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:04am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?


Continuity, CR is supposed to slot in between G1 season2 and the movie, according to TFWiki, with some of Takara's creative edtting and a story that seems to "magic" everyone away for a time.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Th ... _Star_Gate
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671647)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:14am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?
It's never stated. Though, Fire Convoy did mention that he and Gigatron had known each other for 3000 years, but that could suggest a number of things.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671652)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:49am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?
It's never stated. Though, Fire Convoy did mention that he and Gigatron had known each other for 3000 years, but that could suggest a number of things.


3000 years................ :HEADHURTS:
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671653)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 6th, 2015 @ 1:51am CDT
Flashwave wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?


Continuity, CR is supposed to slot in between G1 season2 and the movie, according to TFWiki, with some of Takara's creative edtting and a story that seems to "magic" everyone away for a time.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Th ... _Star_Gate


Yup. Takara shoe horned them alright. Then sending Brave Max to the future to throw Megs into prison and coming back to become the core of Autobot City then........... :HEADHURTS:
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671697)
Posted by griftimus prime on April 6th, 2015 @ 6:40am CDT
awesome
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671732)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2015 @ 8:45am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?
It's never stated. Though, Fire Convoy did mention that he and Gigatron had known each other for 3000 years, but that could suggest a number of things.


3000 years................ :HEADHURTS:
They could have known each since before the era of the :MAXIMAL: and :PREDACON: . Though, as Fire Convoy was still a :BOT: , perhaps only Gigatron and his team upgraded from :CON: to :PREDACON: while Fire Convoy's stayed as :BOT: . It's possible they could have come from a post-Beast Wars Returns, pre-Beast Wars II future era.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1671762)
Posted by william-james88 on April 6th, 2015 @ 10:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just further fuel to the fire of Car Robots/RiD 2001 being a part of the Beast Era (real world chonology-wise, not continuity subfamily-wise). 8)


Sabr, just from what future did Fireconvoy come from anyway? In the Japanese continuity anyway? Lio and Big came thousands of years after Primal if I got it right. So what about well these guys?
It's never stated. Though, Fire Convoy did mention that he and Gigatron had known each other for 3000 years, but that could suggest a number of things.


3000 years................ :HEADHURTS:
They could have known each since before the era of the :MAXIMAL: and :PREDACON: . Though, as Fire Convoy was still a :BOT: , perhaps only Gigatron and his team upgraded from :CON: to :PREDACON: while Fire Convoy's stayed as :BOT: . It's possible they could have come from a post-Beast Wars Returns, pre-Beast Wars II future era.


Like Protoman had said? http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/the-true-transformers-g1-timeline-what-to-watch-and-in-what-order-t102036.php#p1613182
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672065)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on April 6th, 2015 @ 8:23pm CDT
That is so cool.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672067)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2015 @ 8:34pm CDT
Only sort of. It isn't outright stated what time period Fire Convoy's Cybertrons and Gigatron's Destrongers came from, but the Destrongers using the :PREDACON: insignia would suggest a point after the Great Upgrade in the Japanese timeline. However, there's still the notion of the Destrongers still being large-sized Transformers instead of the human-sized ones that the Beast Wars characters were, so if the Destrongers did come from a :MAXIMAL: / :PREDACON: future era, we can only assume that, for whatever reason, they didn't downsize like the rest of 'em.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672071)
Posted by william-james88 on April 6th, 2015 @ 8:42pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Only sort of. It isn't outright stated what time period Fire Convoy's Cybertrons and Gigatron's Destrongers came from, but the Destrongers using the :PREDACON: insignia would suggest a point after the Great Upgrade in the Japanese timeline. However, there's still the notion of the Destrongers still being large-sized Transformers instead of the human-sized ones that the Beast Wars characters were, so if the Destrongers did come from a :MAXIMAL: / :PREDACON: future era, we can only assume that, for whatever reason, they didn't downsize like the rest of 'em.


Oh, the way I understood was that RID was much much after Beast Wars (long enough for the world to get back to what it looked like in the early 2000s, starting from ashes) and thus in Transformers evolution, the Maximals and Predacons gave way to a new breed of autobot and decepticon which resembled the g1 transformers of old.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672097)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2015 @ 9:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Only sort of. It isn't outright stated what time period Fire Convoy's Cybertrons and Gigatron's Destrongers came from, but the Destrongers using the :PREDACON: insignia would suggest a point after the Great Upgrade in the Japanese timeline. However, there's still the notion of the Destrongers still being large-sized Transformers instead of the human-sized ones that the Beast Wars characters were, so if the Destrongers did come from a :MAXIMAL: / :PREDACON: future era, we can only assume that, for whatever reason, they didn't downsize like the rest of 'em.


Oh, the way I understood was that RID was much much after Beast Wars (long enough for the world to get back to what it looked like in the early 2000s, starting from ashes) and thus in Transformers evolution, the Maximals and Predacons gave way to a new breed of autobot and decepticon which resembled the g1 transformers of old.
Be careful how you use "RID" instead of "Car Robots" since RID's in its own continuity while Car Robots is the one in the JG1 timeline.

Anyway, Car Robots is officially set in the year 2000 with its Cybertronian characters coming from a future era that's never been officially determined.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672114)
Posted by william-james88 on April 6th, 2015 @ 10:12pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Be careful how you use "RID" instead of "Car Robots" since RID's in its own continuity while Car Robots is the one in the JG1 timeline.

Anyway, Car Robots is officially set in the year 2000 with its Cybertronian characters coming from a future era that's never been officially determined.


Oh man, this is so complicated. But thanks for not giving up on me Sabr.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672149)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 6th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Be careful how you use "RID" instead of "Car Robots" since RID's in its own continuity while Car Robots is the one in the JG1 timeline.

Anyway, Car Robots is officially set in the year 2000 with its Cybertronian characters coming from a future era that's never been officially determined.


Oh man, this is so complicated. But thanks for not giving up on me Sabr.
Sure. Which part is confusing you?
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672287)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on April 7th, 2015 @ 9:25am CDT
I had no idea that Car Robots was actually in the JG1 continuity.
Re: Early Sketch of Fire Convoy from designer Hisashi Yuki (1672316)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 7th, 2015 @ 9:57am CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:I had no idea that Car Robots was actually in the JG1 continuity.
Yep. It just wasn't made clear until 2007 since, at the time, the show was mostly self-contained and didn't boast about what continuity it resided in, so most took its self-isolation to mean that it was a completely new continuity altogether. The English RID dub likewise took this idea to heart and ran with it.

But really, because it's so standalone, it's able to occur in the JG1 timeline in the year 2000 with virtually no conflict with other media, as there's a lot of time that occurs between 1985 (G1 cartoon seasons 1-2) and 2005 (G1 movie).

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