English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo

Transformers News: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo

Monday, May 13th, 2019 9:11AM CDT

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Fellow Seibertronian Sabrblade has made us aware of a translation for the manga that came packed with Legends LG-EX Blue Big Convoy. This is done by the same team behind the newly released Beast Wars Neo fansubs which can be found on youtube now.

Sabrblade wrote:Everyone, may I have your attention, please.
In anticipation of their long-awaited release of Beast Wars Neo in subtitled form (see here), Karyuudo Fansubs posted last night a full English translation of the Legends LG-EX pack-in manga that came with Blue Big Convoy.

This manga story serves as a bridging story that connects the end of Beast Wars Returns (Beast Machines) to both Beast Wars Second and Beast Wars Neo, with Page 1 taking place before Beast Wars Second and Page 2 leading into Beast Wars Neo.

While this story was posted in this thread previously with an English summary, this here is a full-blown English translation that makes things all the more easy to understand.

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< And, remember, this reads right-to-left. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<


Transformers News: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo

Transformers News: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo
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Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021302)
Posted by Big Grim on May 13th, 2019 @ 11:35am CDT
These translations are gratefully received. :)
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021327)
Posted by Lore Keeper on May 13th, 2019 @ 1:51pm CDT
Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021336)
Posted by karyuudo on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:33pm CDT
Not sure, but it could signify having a piece of his father with him at his side.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021337)
Posted by karyuudo on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:34pm CDT
Big Grim wrote:These translations are gratefully received. :)


You're welcome! We felt that including this story with the release of Beast Wars Neo was important as it connects everything together.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021338)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:37pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021341)
Posted by Lore Keeper on May 13th, 2019 @ 2:46pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021356)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2019 @ 6:20pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021376)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:30pm CDT
It's funny. If the Papa arm thing is meant to explain the asymmetry, then it's peculiar that Big Convoy is drawn with his arms obscured from view in the one panel he appears in that is set before he loses his arm. Meaning, we can't even see what he looked like before he lost his arm.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021377)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:30pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021378)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:33pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021381)
Posted by william-james88 on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:35pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece


Not about the toy, about the fact that we actually have a fictional reason for it after all these years.
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021384)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 13th, 2019 @ 7:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece


Not about the toy, about the fact that we actually have a fictional reason for it after all these years.

Eh, for fun, why not? I wonder how many people didn't even realize Big Convoy was asymmetrical
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2021563)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on May 15th, 2019 @ 1:18am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:Is there a significance to Big Convoy inheriting his father's arm? Is it a reference to something?

It would explain why Big Convoy's arms were always asymetrical when the rest of his body was not.

Ya know, I think you nailed it. I never noticed just how asymmetrical his arms were before.

I didn't even notice till last Thursday, it's strange that those are the only asymmetrical parts, usually the chest is asymmetrical if anything or at least an indication that the bot has some asymmetry

There is more subtle asymetry all across this figure (including the chest), I wrote about it when I included him in my top 5 shellformers list: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/33329/

But the arm is the most asymetrical part. Maybe a quick news piece on the revelation could be fun.

I mean, it's a nearly 20 year old toy, I'm not sure it really needs a news piece


Not about the toy, about the fact that we actually have a fictional reason for it after all these years.

Eh, for fun, why not? I wonder how many people didn't even realize Big Convoy was asymmetrical


About as many that didn't have the clear joint breaking...
Re: English Translation for Takara's Blue Big Convoy Manga Prepares Fans for Subtitled Beast Wars Neo (2022232)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2019 @ 3:07pm CDT
Okay, I'm on Episode 29 now and, after all these years of such limited accessibility to both this show and Beast Wars Second, I think it's safe to say that the Western fandom has blown something out of proportion (quelle suprise!).
 
In the BWII movie, Optimus Primal is treated as a "legendary Supreme Commander" by Lio Convoy's teammates, revered and awed as some greatly respected figure. This movie, being one of the scarcely few pieces of JBW media that the Western fandom had access to thanks to Ctenosaur Fansubs, helped fuel the initial misconception that the "Convoy" of Beast Wars might have been treated by Japan as the same "Convoy" of the G1 cartoon. Of course, Beast Wars Metals would debunk this when it showed the two to be separate individuals like in the English version.
 
Still, though, this "legendary" status that Optimus Primal held in the BWII movie remained, which felt at odds with his depiction in Beast Wars as merely a lowly ship captain. Yet, Japan still regarded him as a Supreme Commander in their version, a title that to a Western fan seemed more prestigious than the captaincy rank Primal held.
 
When it was later confirmed that BWII and Neo actually took place eons after Beast Machines (rather than contemporary to the "three centuries later" hometime of the BW cast, as the Western fandom originally believed), this "legendary" status of Primal's suddenly made some degree of sense retroactively, since he alone saved all of Cybertron from extinction by Megatron, sacrificing himself at the end of Beast Machines. Indeed, this was even incorporated into the Convoy Council's backstory in the Legends LG-EX Blue Big Convoy pack-in comic.
 
 
But... here's the thing.
 
ALL THREE Convoys of the Beast Era are treated as "legendary" figures.
 
 
Out of the gate, Big Convoy is called a "legendary warrior", known for being a "One-Man Army" who won many front-line battles singlehandedly. And later in the series, he's called a "Supreme Commander" in regards to his being in charge of Break, Stampy, Longrack, Colada, and Heinrad. A guy put in charge of merely five (later six) individuals is given such a lofty title, when he's pretty much just a mere ship captain. Sound familiar?
 
What's more, Beast Wars Neo takes place, what, a few years after Beast Wars Second? Is that all? If so, then that's how long Lio Convoy has been MIA. And yet, here in Episode 29, he too is called a "legendary warrior", the exact same wording used previously to describe Big Convoy (Stampy even points out this notion, and Mach Kick later calls them "two legendary warriors"), with Big Convoy's teammates even going gaga over Lio Convoy with the same kind of awe and wonderment that Lio Convoy's team had for Optimus Primal in the movie.
 
 
It really seems to me like this whole "legendary" thing really isn't all that special, certainly not to the extent that the early Western fandom made it out to be, what with how few folks in the West actually got to experience these two shows back then. Same goes for being a Supreme Commander. Sure, that actually meant something in the G1 era (being the highest-ranked sole authority in the Autobot army), but by the Beast Era, any blue-helmeted mouth-plated novice could be one, and all it gets ya is an average-sized spaceship and a small crew of misfits. And you apparently get to be called "legendary" by the next guy's crew. :P

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