English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs

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Saturday, August 12th, 2017 9:17PM CDT

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Of all the Transformers: The Last Knight toys in the Premier Edition (which turned out to just mean, "not for very little kids" and nothing else) one of the least anticipated was probably Crosshairs. His original toy was not one of the best in the AOE line and to have a new toy based on that mold peaked almost no one's interest. But things are about to change. Chefatron has a review up of this new mold and does a deep analysis of all that is similar and different between this new toys and the original. In short here is what has been changed:

- The shoulders so that they can be pushed away from his head
- The guns so that they can both be stored under the car
- The forearms for better screen accuracy and less car kibble
- The entire car shell for better screen accuracy and less kibble inrobot mode
- New pieces to evoke the trenchcoat look better
- Even the wheels are different

There are more and you can see it all in the review below.

Credit(s): chefatron
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Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904031)
Posted by beastwarsbrah on August 12th, 2017 @ 10:19pm CDT
ebo716 wrote:Does cogmans leg transformation remind anyone else of barricades


Yup thats exactly what I was thinking. Hopefully he is easier to transform, I still haven't figured out the trick to getting baricades arms to go in.

As for wave 1 shelfwarming, thats how it is here. Tons of Slash and Grimlock. Haven't seen anything past wave 1 at Wal-Mart, tru, or target with the exception of Skullitron and Megatron at tru and I saw leader Megatron and Optimus at Wal-Mart tonight but had to pass on them since I already bought voyager Optimus. Also, leader Optimus robot mode looks so dinky compared to Megatron.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904049)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:15am CDT
So I managed to finally get Nitro Zeus and Scorn from BBTS the other day. Scorn is incredibly fun, much better than the AoE deluxe. The transformation is pretty straightforward and the tougher parts aren't as awkward as I thought they'd have been. He's second only to voyager Megatron as far as Premier Edition figures go, and it's only because Megs is near flawless and has literallly zero qc issues. Nitro is alright, but I kind of wish he had the right head. other than that, tight joints, fun (very involved) transformation. I'm probably going to sell him off though, I'm really picky about his head. If anybody wants him, let me know.

I've gotten ridiculously lucky with my local Walmart, that's where I scored my voyager Hound and Megatron but I've been to around 10-12 various different stores (TRU, Target, etc) in the last few weeks and outside of a couple sightings of the voyagers and leaders I haven't seen a single sign of wave 2. There are Grimlocks, Slashes, Berserkers and the occasional Bumblebee clogging things up just like everyone else and I'm getting really tired of seeing them everywhere. I just want preorders to pop up for new Bee (or that 3-pack), Hot Rod and Cogman so I can be done looking around everywhere and getting disappointed.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904060)
Posted by WreckerJack on August 13th, 2017 @ 2:54am CDT
I dig the new crosshairs but the lack of light piping makes me sad. I wonder if there would be a way to headswap?
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904067)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2017 @ 5:00am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:I dig the new crosshairs but the lack of light piping makes me sad. I wonder if there would be a way to headswap?


If the head is just snapped on by a balljoint, I don't why it wouldn't be possible.
Let's hope nothing is glued.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904070)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 13th, 2017 @ 5:55am CDT
Someone's spotted this at Asda, weird thing is??? it has Bee on the boxart :???:
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Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904072)
Posted by WreckerJack on August 13th, 2017 @ 6:45am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
WreckerJack wrote:I dig the new crosshairs but the lack of light piping makes me sad. I wonder if there would be a way to headswap?


If the head is just snapped on by a balljoint, I don't why it wouldn't be possible.
Let's hope nothing is glued.

If only all figures were Titan Masters :P

Btw do you know how to headswap on a TF figure? You are the champ when it comes to customs. :BOWDOWN:
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904074)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2017 @ 7:27am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
WreckerJack wrote:I dig the new crosshairs but the lack of light piping makes me sad. I wonder if there would be a way to headswap?


If the head is just snapped on by a balljoint, I don't why it wouldn't be possible.
Let's hope nothing is glued.

If only all figures were Titan Masters :P

Btw do you know how to headswap on a TF figure? You are the champ when it comes to customs. :BOWDOWN:


I did LOTS of head-swaps through my customs. And let me tell you, it's a pain. Depending on the line and the generation and the size class, most heads attach differently. Ball joints sizes varies, some are just poped in, other are screwed in, some have mushroom pegs forcing you to disassemble the whole figure... Often the new head is too big, hindering the transformation.

To make the new head compatible on a figure, I often have to make composite heads, meaning the front from one and the back from another. Sometimes I had to install a new balljoint on the bot's neck.

But when the line have constant engineering, it's a breeze. Especially for the Combiner Wars deluxes. Those were easy like Hero Mashers to mix and match. So because the mold is 75% the same for TLK/AoE Crosshair, my guess is that it will only be a matter of popping the head off the balljoint... IF it's a balljoint. I don't own the figure so I can't tell. But my guess is that it will be compatible like the CW deluxes are for each others.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904080)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 8:36am CDT
In the previous movie toyline, Age of Extinction, the debate was on which was the better Grimlock since he was the only character with two new toys in the collector oriented line in two different classes. However, both were mediocre so it was more of a question of which wasn't as bad. But now with The Last Knight's Megatron, it's the reverse with two really awesome looking toys. But which is best?

I will break it down through categories and pick a winner, based on what I feel and read online from you guys, and then we will all say our preference in the forums. Sound good?

Jet Mode:

The leader definitely wins by having some kibble free wings in jet mode. Having those flame effects in the back is a really nice touch too. it is quite an imposing jet. The back of the jet is also cleaner than the voyager which has the robot shoulders there looking asymmetrical. The fact that the wings on the leader have no kibble underneath them really makes the jet look sleek and adds to the alt mode's distinctiveness from the robot mode. The alt mode of TLK Megatron is a gorgeous jet design and the leader is a better representation of it.








Leader


Voyager


Leader


Voyager




Robot Mode:

This one is a toss up with the leader edging out the voyager by just a bit. The leader has more dedicated parts for the robot mode with the jet kibble relegated to the back and on the arm cannon while the voyager has some fuselage doubling (unconvincingly) as part of the knight skirt and jet wings wrapped around the robot legs. But that also means he has a cleaner back, more alt mode integration (which I can't be mad about) and a cannon that looks fully dedicated to the robot mode. The arms on the voyager are better since the forearms are sleeker. The leader's standard arm pose gives you gorilla arms but you can adjust that with the wrist swivel, which gives you a giant hole and unseemly wide forearms.











Speaking of articulation, both give you a decent range. The leader even has double jointed knees if you use a transformation hinge but after seeing the images below you might not use it for the robot mode. The leader does something else that I did not notice until having him in hand, the sleekness of the torso, as it tapers down, is hampered by the backpack. Meaning that you don't get that nice shape at the midsection and instead it looks like those u convincing Power Rangers zords where they draw a sleeker body on a rectangle and make the collector/child pretend it's not there. Also, the leader ends up with a crotch hole ala MP 10, which the voyager does not have. With all these knocks against the leader, you would think the voyager would win this easily but I really like how good the leader's robot mode looks with the face mask and how clean the robot mode is. Point goes to the leader.


Voyager


Leader








Gimmicks:

The leader clearly has more gimmicks than the voyager. All the voyager has is light piping (eyes and "gills"), which is something absent in the leader figure and actually works well enough on the voyager. You get a cool evil look with it. Now the leader's gimmicks are both its pro and con. Yes, the facemask is really cool but for that to work you end up with a really derpy looking mouth when the mask isn't deployed. You also get a weak spring loaded feature for the front of the jet to come undone and it is as annoying as Leader Optimus' spring loaded swords. Sometimes too much is like not enough and I would rather not get a gimmick than a poorly executed one. The face mask is still cool but the fact that I hesitate to transform the leader just because of how annoying that bit will be means I prefer the voyager for keeping things 100.




Facesculpt:

As just said, the retracted chin on the leader doesn't look good and makes him look more derpy than menacing. Almost reminds me of Sloth from the Goonies. Voyager wins this one.


Voyager


Leader





Paint/Deco:

The voyager wins here by a landslide. Both toys go for a very different look with the silver deco and I fail to understand why. The voyager uses the silver as a way to subtly add to the layering of the armour. Its a nice effect that seems to only work on the naked eye. What is baffling is that the leader uses silver paint to instead give a weathered or battle damaged look. It is blotchy and not uniform and looks random.




Leader


Leader


Leader


Voyager




Arm Cannon:

Oddly enough, I find the voyager's a tad bit too small. It's maybe movie accurate but it doesn't look very threatening. The Leader's is way too big. The fire effect is super cool and I am able to pose him the right way so that the weight is evenly carried across the toy, but it still looks very big. I give both of them major props for avoiding the partsforming route.

In the end, the Voyager wins here but not by much.




Transformation:

This is the big one. I much prefer the Voyager's transformation since I much prefer unfolding panels instead of the panel forming and massaging you have to do with the leader (in the back portion of the jet). There is more of a shell aspect with the leader which the voyager doesn't have since almost every part of the robot mode is reused for the jet mode. Also, the first step they give you for the leader is to transform the nosecone from the cannon which is a terrible idea. It will surely keep getting undone as you keep transforming since it is spring loaded. The voyager is really a joy to convert from one mode to the next. Nothing gets in the way too much and there isn't anything annoying. It is also far more intuitive and there is no need to exert pressure anywhere. My leader already has some stretch marks where the nosecone tabs into the forearms.






While the voyager wins out most of the categories it is still a tough call when the ones the leader wins is when it comes to the best looking modes. In the end, its all about what you want best. If you will be transforming these often, the voyager is the way to go. But if you just want to pose him, the leader works better since he is far more screen accurate. However, you wouldn't be able to pose him with anyone since the only other toy in his scale in this line is the inaccurate Optimus Prime leader. Still, I can't say this pic below isn't awesome and I don't regret getting both.





Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904084)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:15am CDT
Nice article, but better edit some pictures. Instead of the voyager, we see some double posts of the leader's pictures.

Still, this make me want to get the leader but only if it's on sale. If not, meh, I'll just miss out.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904088)
Posted by MrBlack on August 13th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
One point I will add is that my Leader Megs has some very wobbly hips, which makes posing him a bit of a chore. That giant arm cannon can throw off his balance in some poses as well. Voyager Megs has much tighter joints.

I agree that Leader Megs is the winner as a display piece though. He's just so big and imposing and that jet mode is amazing. Voyager Megs is the better toy though.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904089)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:05am CDT
Thanks, Willy J, I've been looking for an analysis like this if only to help me decide on the Voyager, since I already bought the leader. I have yet to transform him, so I have a question: how does transforming him to jet mode compare to transforming RoTF Jetfire? If you can recall that figure, that is.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904092)
Posted by dragons on August 13th, 2017 @ 10:13am CDT
Don't have time patience read everything I look at pictures leader class for me after viewing two reviews on two figures
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904094)
Posted by Cobotron on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:12am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote: how does transforming him to jet mode compare to transforming RoTF Jetfire?
If I may, I'd like to answer that.

Enjoyable!
Jetfire was a chore. Leader Megs is a breeze in comparison.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904099)
Posted by SureShot18 on August 13th, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
Nice write-up. I still feel like the Leader is only superior in jet mode. Of course I haven't messed with either of them but I should have the voyager this week if I get him ordered today. But like I said in the 'Tron, you can't go wrong with either of them given the awesomeness of the TLK Megatron design.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904106)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2017 @ 12:03pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Thanks, Willy J, I've been looking for an analysis like this if only to help me decide on the Voyager, since I already bought the leader. I have yet to transform him, so I have a question: how does transforming him to jet mode compare to transforming RoTF Jetfire? If you can recall that figure, that is.

Oh I know that figure well. Its very different. Jetfire is a robot under a jet and Megatron is not that since his arms and legs make up part of the actual jet. There are still some panels to conect with Leader Megatron but its notthing compared to the panelforming chore that Jetfire was. Believe it or not, the toy Megatron reminds me more of is ROTF Optimus Prime especially with the spring loaded front.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904110)
Posted by Black Hat on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:08pm CDT
Yeah I think I'll go Voyager if I get either version of this mold. They both look pretty great though I will say.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904111)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:11pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Yeah I think I'll go Voyager if I get either version of this mold. They both look pretty great though I will say.

I think that that's the underrated beauty of this movie line, that, no matter your budget, you can still get an exceptional rendition of Megatron (I've heard great things about the 'kiddie' versions too), something that no other movie - or normal line, can boast :APPLAUSE:

I have the voyager, and have seen the leader numerous times, I don't regret skipping the leader version for the voyager, it's far superior ;)^
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904112)
Posted by Black Hat on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:13pm CDT
Yeah, that's one of the genuinely good things about this line, even if there have been some duds. I only own one TLK toy- Barricade (I wanted a Nitro Zeus but I haven't seen him yet, not even at TFNation!) but he's alright. Feels like a 2007 toy in a good way.
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904113)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:16pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Yeah, that's one of the genuinely good things about this line, even if there have been some duds. I only own one TLK toy- Barricade (I wanted a Nitro Zeus but I haven't seen him yet, not even at TFNation!) but he's alright. Feels like a 2007 toy in a good way.

Mine can't form his car mode, so, there's that, on the plus side, my vastly superior dotm barricade now has some great accessories ;)^
Re: English Video Review with Comparison for the New Transformers: The Last Knight Deluxe Crosshairs (1904117)
Posted by Lunatic Prime on August 13th, 2017 @ 1:25pm CDT
The Leader's face reminds me more of Jeepers Creepers.


And do you have any clue what the hole in his crotch is for? It's not for transformation as far as I can tell.

[quote]If you will be transforming these often, the voyager is the way to go. But if you just want to pose him, the leader works better since he is far more screen accurate. [/quote]Here's a big problem for me. I don't like the Voyager's jet mode. So I would have him in robot mode all the time and the easy transformation isn't a plus to me that way. The Leader I love in both modes so I'd like to transform him a lot but it's really annoying.

[quote]However, you wouldn't be able to pose him with anyone since the only other toy in his scale in this line is the inaccurate Optimus Prime leader. [/quote]I think (and a lot of reviewers, too) that he's pretty much in scale with the other Decepticon mainline figures. And this way also with the Autobot Deluxe class cars.

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