Entire First Wave of Transformers Legacy United Line Revealed

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

What price point do you think it will be?

Would they make Primus as big as Unicron?

TK415 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

What price point do you think it will be?

Would they make Primus as big as Unicron?

I'd guess Unicron sized yep.

And ya know what else: I now feel confident in this answer, as Primus/Cybertron would fit the 40th anniversary celebration of the Transformers. I don't think Omega Prime or Supreme really fit the "brand celebration" deal

Emerje wrote:Leader Tiger Hawk looks cool in bot mode, beast mode has really scrawny back legs. Emerje

Rtron wrote:The tiny backlegs on Tigerhawk's beast mode are a bit weird, but it's nice overall.

How big did you remember his hawk legs being?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

TK415 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:2024 Haslab prediction: Animated Omega Supreme or RiD2001 Omega Prime.

I hadn't considered Omega Prime. I suppose he could work for the 40th anniversary. But it was said at some point that the next HasLab wouldn't be an Optimus, and Omega is made of an Optimus.

Conversely, Animated Omega checks the "not an Optimus" box, but doesn't really seem representative of the 40th anniversary, which the HasLab will be celebrating.

3rd Guess while doing some thinking: Omega = Omega Lock, which wakes up Primus AKA Cybertron, thus the Haslab will be a Titan G1-ified Cybertron Primus.

What price point do you think it will be?

Would they make Primus as big as Unicron?

I'd guess Unicron sized yep.

And ya know what else: I now feel confident in this answer, as Primus/Cybertron would fit the 40th anniversary celebration of the Transformers. I don't think Omega Prime or Supreme really fit the "brand celebration" deal

We won't know until next year, but I don't find this logic convincing. If they wanted to tease Cybertron or Primus, there are dozens of better teases they could've done than a reference to Omega Lock, especially since Omega suggests multiple more plausible answers.

Outstanding stuff. Especially Thundertron and Tigerhawk.

This time, it's the Core class figures that are all full of wins!

Yes, those of us that guessed Tidal Wave's coming can brag!

There's not a bad figure in United so far.

Loving that Chase. It's cool that they included the Powered up and Energize weapon.

At this point I have to ask. Why is anyone who already collects transformers figures interested in these updated releases? The majority of sculpts are atrocious when compared to the originals. This Tigerhawk is a joke. I didn't think hasbro could put the bar lower than the new BW Megatron but they did.
I understand kids would like this, but you can get the original Tigerhwak on eBay for $40.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I now feel confident in this answer, as Primus/Cybertron would fit the 40th anniversary celebration of the Transformers. I don't think Omega Prime or Supreme really fit the "brand celebration" deal

Except that animated Omega Supreme would be the Ark which would be very 40th anniversary since the first 5 minutes of the first episode is about powering up the Ark to escape Cybertron.

I would agree that Primus would be a good 40th anniversary, but it'd be another $800 haslab. I'd rather see a $250 Ark done better than what we got with the last autobot.

Lots of preorders have popped up at Amazon. I really LOVE the "Rock Lords" who transform into Flintsones vehicles.

Nothing worth preordering, which is fine by me. As for the other stuff even with GI joe being not for the masses outside of america/hasbro makes things easier on the wallet. Kinda weird that they promote and now sell super7 power rangers ultimates so maybe transformers ultimates and reaction will be available too (at least for american hasbro pulse).

I've managed to get my pre-orders in for Optimus, Thundertron, Bumblebee and Tasmania Kid, and also managed to buy Powerlinx Hot Shot, and I'm relieved I managed to get my order in before he sold out, that was a big anxiety I had for a while. At the moment Pulse UK is saying January for Bumblebee and Tasmania, and February for Optimus and Thundertron, which isn't too long to wait, especially as I got a shipping notice for Ultra Magnus today, and Ratchet isn't too far away either.

Eskeep28 wrote:At this point I have to ask. Why is anyone who already collects transformers figures interested in these updated releases? The majority of sculpts are atrocious when compared to the originals. This Tigerhawk is a joke. I didn't think hasbro could put the bar lower than the new BW Megatron but they did.
I understand kids would like this, but you can get the original Tigerhwak on eBay for $40.

Fans can be interested in getting more accurate and more articulated figures.

Come on, reveal the 5th junkion!

United is a great line, especially Tigerhawk. Good to see the rock lords return.

Wow so much to unpack from this
First of all, MAGMATRONNN!!!!!! and as commander class so you know he's gonna come out fooking bada$$. That will be an instant buy, I love that character. I never got the original because the lack of articulation just wasn't worth it for me. DIVIDE AND CONQUER!!

Core class:
•don't care about Megatron but looks really good tbh
•bouldercrash looks cool. Won't consider getting the new armorizers until I see combined form, I've grown tired of them with fossilizers and junkions
•Tasmanian Kid looks better than I expected by a long shot, I love both modes. The tail gun kinda sucks but alt mode is awesome, head sculpt is cool as sh!t and the beefy hands in bot mode are cool. Instant buy.

Deluxe class:
•other rock guy is cool too, I like the weapon
•I don't care about chase but that mold is pretty good. Primevsprime speculated this would be reused as Prime Cliffjumper which would be an instant buy for me so fingers crossed
•still on the fence about Bumblebee
•Windblade's face is a little weird but I've been wanting to own the character so I'll be picking it up. I'll get the remold into slipstream too. Maybe I'll use her as a TF gamora with my TF guardians of the galaxy team along with Shadow Striker as Nebula

Voyager class:
•still on the fence about Prime
•Thundertron! Mixed bag for me. Robot mode shoulder pads are a little lame compared to the original having the claws there. Headsculpt is kinda derpy. The Prime figure had such a menacing face and this one looks too nice lol and the alt mode looks really good. But the lion front legs look a little skinny. Wondering if I should nab this one now or wait on the potential leader Walmart version? I'm gonna own that character one way or another though
Looks like tidal wave will be my first Titan class figure as well, my captain will need his ship!!

Leader class:
•PR prime: whatever who cares
•Tigerhawk: TIGERHAWK!!!!! I already pre-ordered him. I love tigerhawk, I still own the original and Tigatron/tigerhawk is a favorite character up there with depth charge and dinobot. Robot mode looks fantastic, I love love love love love the robot mode. And the asymmetrical head is a nice touch. Accurate colors, noice. Feather swords? That's a fun idea, kind of lazily executed though. Some molded blades on the feathers edges wouldve been nice
Lol not sure why people are surprised that the fuzor freak of nature with bird legs has skinny bird legs. That's what bird legs look like, they weren't beefy on the original toy as pointed out above and the cartoon model didn't have beefy legs either. If anything its a shame the front legs still have the robot feet visible. And that tiger head... looks like a fox or a Raccoon or something idk it looks weird. But I love him and I'm getting him

And to reiterate the sentiment of a fellow seibertronian, MAGMATRONNN!!!!!!

william-james88 wrote:

Eskeep28 wrote:At this point I have to ask. Why is anyone who already collects transformers figures interested in these updated releases? The majority of sculpts are atrocious when compared to the originals. This Tigerhawk is a joke. I didn't think hasbro could put the bar lower than the new BW Megatron but they did.
I understand kids would like this, but you can get the original Tigerhwak on eBay for $40.

Fans can be interested in getting more accurate and more articulated figures.

I like the idea of all my figures and characters interacting. The thrilling 30/reveal the shield line was the first taste of this that I can remember, which inspired my signature. Trying to mish mash toys like the original animated, with generations and movie style figures just doesn't work for me. They don't go together. And I want them to, having separate mini collections sucks, I want the interaction of my favorite characters. That's why I exclusively collect generations figures (and the studio series figures that can fit in with them) and why I hope we continue to see figures like this for a long time. I love what they're doing. It hurts my wallet but feeds my soul

Core Megs just looks cute.
Tiger hawk, definitely picking him up.
Chase has piqued my interest.

Thundertron…. Not sure….

So, Magmatron….. interesting Commander Class… more interesting.
Does that mean we can expect a Magnaboss at some point or. Tripredacus?

TFA Optimus was one of the only ones I wanted, but through a combination of delays, and high demand, it got sold out on Pulse before I could pre-order. I want to hope they'll restock - but this is Hasbro we're talking about. And they've had an annoying habit lately of making all the really good figures completely unavailable (coughcoughcoughVelocitronCosmoscoughcoughcoughLeaderSnarlcoughcoughcough)...

Overcracker wrote:Does that mean we can expect a Magnaboss at some point or. Tripredacus?

I sure hope so! I'd love a new Beast wars ironhide!
Hopefully a new Big Convoy too

DeathReviews wrote:TFA Optimus was one of the only ones I wanted, but through a combination of delays, and high demand, it got sold out on Pulse before I could pre-order. I want to hope they'll restock - but this is Hasbro we're talking about. And they've had an annoying habit lately of making all the really good figures completely unavailable (coughcoughcoughVelocitronCosmoscoughcoughcoughLeaderSnarlcoughcoughcough)...

Just wait and buy TFA Optimus from any number of other retailers. It's not an exclusive, it's a mass retail figure. It'll be available everywhere.

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Razorbeast88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Does that mean we can expect a Magnaboss at some point or. Tripredacus?

I sure hope so! I'd love a new Beast wars ironhide!
Hopefully a new Big Convoy too

Encore BC is available on TFSource for preorder for some reason. https://tfsource.com/transformers-encore/big-convoy/

With all the out there releases these days, I would not put it past them to give us a big Convoy at some point. 2 repaints built in.

Dat alt for Tasmanian Kid!! So good.

Tigerhawk looks great in bot mode! Not as cool in alt tho

I can’t wait to see the updates for Tidal Wave and Magmatron!!

But it would take a lot to store away my OG Magmatron….

I really hope that Tidal Wave is titan class, even if the color scheme is from the show and not the game.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I really hope that Tidal Wave is titan class, even if the color scheme is from the show and not the game.

Yes, it's Titan Class.

On another note, I'm really bummed by the discussion and dissapointment on social media with the lack of G1. There was a complaint that the generations line had little variety and now that we finally have it I see so many Debbie Downers.

Pretty cool for Hasbro to give us not only reveals for the entire first wave of the Legacy Unite figures but also our first look at the titan class and commander class figures of 2024 through the poster art. On the poster we can see Magmatron highlighted in the centre. The commander class gives Hasbro extra budget to accomodate a toy requiring 3 seperate alt modes combining. And speaking of 3 seperate alt modes combining, we also have our first look at titan class Tidal Wave on the same poster. We can see that it is in Armada colours. Also, we do see the repacked leader class Armada Galvatron below it, so that could hint at an interaction between the toys.

Below you will also find alt mode images for the toys which we didn't receive officially from Hasbro for our previous story. And if you want to watch the full stream, we have the video for you too. Enjoy!

Any chance they'll release a Gen selects tidal wave with the toy colors? Haha

Razorbeast88 wrote:Any chance they'll release a Gen selects tidal wave with the toy colors? Haha

I'm sure they will.

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I really hope that Tidal Wave is titan class, even if the color scheme is from the show and not the game.

Yes, it's Titan Class.

On another note, I'm really bummed by the discussion and dissapointment on social media with the lack of G1. There was a complaint that the generations line had little variety and now that we finally have it I see so many Debbie Downers.

Really? That's a shame. I don't use social media except for a twitter account where I follow a handful of fandom big names, so I never really have any idea about the reception at large these things get. Except maybe when I venture into tfw's comments. At least here people seem to have liked it! There really was a bit for everyone here, except G1, but there's G1 in every other wave, and they're sort of running out of G1 stuff to do anyway.

I think I know who Chase is being retooled into and why they said to wait six months for the reveal since he's part of the Star Seeker lineup at Walmart next year. The double headlights on the feet and exhaust on the sides give it away. There's notches on the hood for an engine to plug into.






I didn't say it would be good.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Emerje wrote:Leader Tiger Hawk looks cool in bot mode, beast mode has really scrawny back legs. Emerje

Rtron wrote:The tiny backlegs on Tigerhawk's beast mode are a bit weird, but it's nice overall.

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How big did you remember his hawk legs being?

I own one, I didn't forget. The original had some meaty thighs, but the Colonel wouldn't look twice at United Tiger Hawk.

Emerje

I know that Tidal Wave is going to be a Titan, but how cool would it be if he could still somehow interact with Legacy Armada Megs? Maybe certain parts will come off and attach like in the show when they combined, I mean the last lines are full to the brim of bots that split into pieces.

Since Tidalwave looks like a repaint of the Arc, I wonder if instead of Mainframe it will be the parts that connect to Megatron. Like the smaller (voyager-sized) robot will be able to combine with Megatron. I hope they do that, it would be super cool

Emerje wrote:I think I know who Chase is being retooled into and why they said to wait six months for the reveal since he's part of the Star Seeker lineup at Walmart next year. The double headlights on the feet and exhaust on the sides give it away. There's notches on the hood for an engine to plug into.






I didn't say it would be good.

To be fair, our Lockdown listing doesn't specify universe/show of origin.... Also worth noting that the clamp is three parts:

Emerje wrote:I think I know who Chase is being retooled into and why they said to wait six months for the reveal since he's part of the Star Seeker lineup at Walmart next year. The double headlights on the feet and exhaust on the sides give it away. There's notches on the hood for an engine to plug into.






I didn't say it would be good.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

In truth though I wouldnt be a fan of anything outside of a new mold for Lockdown.
I feel this particular chase mold would work really well for G1 Downshift

Lockdown deserves a new mold

When is that star seeker line supposed to come out anyways? Wondering which Thundertron to get

I cant speak for what's being said on larger social media platforms because I'm not on any. However my initial thoughts....

All the designs look pretty cool. Not many characters Im interested in, but I'm happy for others, and Ill save money. I've been all on board with the "izers" since the beginning, and the Rock types look good, so nobody can accuse me of not embracing new ideas. .

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Poster that shows Magmatron and Tidal Wave among many other new faces. They're probably the Commander and Titan, respectively.

Wouldn't that make Tidal Wave an awfully small Titan since the poster shows him connected to Armada Megatron?

Emerje

Well, if he's the Commander instead, then what's Magmatron? A measly Leader class?

JTPrime just confirmed titan Tidal Wave and Commander Magmatron

I really dont know what to make of this. Its kind of a no win situation. It still take the comments from JTPrime as rumor for now.

Tidal Wave -its great we are getting the Black/Purple from the animated series, always wanted one initially, but did not want to pay the import price or eBay upcharge 20+ years ago.

Something dosen't add up though. There's no way the designers would make a Tidal Wave that dosen't combine with Armada Megs. A Titan would be too big for the combination, while a CC would at least be feasible. Also YES I'd fully expected Magmatron (and an eventual BWII Galvatron) to be a Leader Class , as are most other villainous faction Leaders. I know Leader Class (along with others class) have shrunk in recent years, but Magmatron could still work in the upper end of what a leader class can be. I suppose a CC could work for Magmatron, but again, like Kingdom Rodimus Prime, it wouldn't be worth the $90 price point, no matter how well developed.

As for the Haslab... and the "Omega" level hint... Of course ,as my favorite character, Omega Supreme, another iteration (Like Animated), is a strong guess, also OMega Prime from RiD (but wont happen because of The inclusion of an Optimus)...

Didn't Cybertron Primus come with an Omega Lock? Getting a New Cybertron/Primus would definitely fit in with the theme of celebrating 40 years, plus giving us Unicron's Rival as well.

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I know that Tidal Wave is going to be a Titan, but how cool would it be if he could still somehow interact with Legacy Armada Megs?

The poster shows Armada Megatron combined with Tidal Wave.

TK415 wrote:Since Tidalwave looks like a repaint of the Arc,

What? No he doesn't, he looks like himself. Like his cartoon model.

o.supreme wrote:Also YES I'd fully expected Magmatron (and an eventual BWII Galvatron) to be a Leader Class , as are most other villainous faction Leaders. I know Leader Class (along with others class) have shrunk in recent years, but Magmatron could still work in the upper end of what a leader class can be. I suppose a CC could work for Magmatron, but again, like Kingdom Rodimus Prime, it wouldn't be worth the $90 price point, no matter how well developed.

We said he's Commander class, not Leader class.

And, Magmatron was a BIG dude in Beast Wars Neo. Much taller than Big Convoy:

Barf. If it's not G1 sunbow characters, then I'm not buying. I guess Hasbro doesn't want my money.

Sabrblade wrote:We said he's Commander class, not Leader class.

I know , and I was refuting it, because there's only rumors so far

Sabrblade wrote: And, Magmatron was a BIG dude in Beast Wars Neo. Much taller than Big Convoy:

Which is why a Generations Big Convoy would be a Voyager just like most other Heroic Faction leaders in modern Generations.

I'm all about G1. It's what I collect for the most part. It was my childhood. But I gotta say.

It's about time some other eras get some love.

I'm sure G1 will have it's share of attention somewhere. But, really, other eras and characters deserve some love too.

Titan class Tidal Wave. It's one of the few characters that would get me to buy another Titan. I'm not even an Armada fan.

Looking at that Chase, especially the alt mode, I can see them doing Prime Cliffjumper out of it. I'd much rather have that than Lockdown from that mold.

Also, really not feeling that Windblade. Looks like Titans Return is still the best to date. And aside from the deco, I think the RID one looks better too.

Regarding the issu with Tidal wave, he will have parts that combine with Megatron/Galvatron, but it wont be the entirety. So you get the best of both worlds.

This wave is simply AMAZING.
And mostly because we are finally getting out of the G1 shackles!

The best for me are the "Rocklords". Vehicles made out of rocks? That's PRIMAL!

That Windblade have a nice bot mode, but her jet is more blocky than Jhiaxus. Weird.

Tigerhawk is ugly as sin. I'm not sure I'll be getting it. But that Thundertron? GLORIOUS! Waaaaayyyyyy better than the original.

Even though he's not my cup of tea, I say YES to modernised Rescue Bots. I'm sure there's some young adults out there who's first Transformers ever was Rescue Bots.

TITAN TIDALWAVE!
That's what I really wanted!

And finally, Commander Magmatron. I'm sure it will nuke the original out of the water. The OG was fiddly and not fun at all to transform. Plus it could barely pose. So I'm confident he'll turn out great.

I

Want

ALL OF THESE

Sabrblade wrote:

Stormshot_Prime wrote:I know that Tidal Wave is going to be a Titan, but how cool would it be if he could still somehow interact with Legacy Armada Megs?

The poster shows Armada Megatron combined with Tidal Wave.

TK415 wrote:Since Tidalwave looks like a repaint of the Arc,

What? No he doesn't, he looks like himself. Like his cartoon model.

People speculated about that when the ark first came out. Look at the Titan Arc. Both of them have cannons right on the upper chest (the Arc's are definitely smaller but same placement). They both have a rectangle in the middle of the chest. I know that is common for a Transfomer, but those two things together, plus Titan.

I think it would be better if Tidalwave is a brand new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the Arc.

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if tidal wave is a brand, new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the arc.

If TW is just a repaint/retool of the Ark, It will be the most pointless titan since TR Fortmax.

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if Tidalwave is a brand new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the Arc.

There hasn't been a mass-retail mainline Titan retooled from another since Fort Max was retooled from Metroplex, and that was a different Hasbro team, too. Every mass-retail mainline Titan to come since Fort Max has been an all new mold:

• 2017: Trypticon
• 2018: Predaking
• 2019: Omega Supreme
• 2020: Scorponok
• 2021: Ark
• 2022: Cybertron Metroplex
• 2023: Nemesis

The only reused Titan molds have either been convention exclusives (SDCC Metroplex, SDCC Devastator, SDCC Fort Max), Selects releases (Black Zarak, Guardian Robot), or TakaraTomy initiatives (Legends Metroplex, Legends Fort Max, Legends Grand Max).

Have a little faith in the next mass-retail mainline Titan continuing the trend of its predecessors.

I had to skedaddle to work right after the TF segment ended so I didn't have time to post my thoughts, but my reaction seems to have been shared by many others here that this is a tremendously exciting first wave! I won't go into specifics about every figure, but I will say Tasmanian Snarl and Tigerhawk are standouts for me. What was most exciting to learn, however is that we will be getting an ACTUAL MAGMATRON!!

We really are in an era where nothing is off the table. The big 40th is looking pretty phenomenal.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if tidal wave is a brand, new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the arc.

If TW is just a repaint/retool of the Ark, It will be the most pointless titan since TR Fortmax.

The design team confirmed recently that the Ark would not be used to make Tidal Wave.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

TK415 wrote:I think it would be better if tidal wave is a brand, new mold, with the three different vehicles that combine. But I wouldn’t be surprised if it was just a retooling of the arc.

If TW is just a repaint/retool of the Ark, It will be the most pointless titan since TR Fortmax.

The design team confirmed recently that the Ark would not be used to make Tidal Wave.

Emerje

Oh! Good to know. Thank you Emerje, sorry I missed that. Thanks so much. Great points Sabrblade