Fall of Cybertron Grimlock Redeco / Remold Beast Megatron Prototype Images

His face seems kinda small for some reason. Maybe it's just his mouth that's too small.

Curious to how it'll be colored. I'm hoping for his Transmetal scheme. Either way, I'm glad I passed of Grimlock (granted I don't recall ever actually seeing Grim).

the only thing i dont like about this figure is the fact that from the backside he is hollow and it is blazingly obvious.... unless he has a magnificent deco this will be a pass. ill put it on my friends and family wishlist just to get him to round out my collection.

Do we have any idea how this figure is going to be marketed (simply as Generations Beast Wars Megatron?) or any other indication about it?

I'm really curious to know if it will make an appearance in the comics, series, whatever!

fail

VioMeTriX wrote:the only thing i dont like about this figure is the fact that from the backside he is hollow and it is blazingly obvious.... unless he has a magnificent deco this will be a pass. ill put it on my friends and family wishlist just to get him to round out my collection.

"Possible mis-transformation", remember those words well. The T-Rex head is supposed to fit into the hollow chest.

And speaking of T-Rex, I want T-Wrecks!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:the only thing i dont like about this figure is the fact that from the backside he is hollow and it is blazingly obvious.... unless he has a magnificent deco this will be a pass. ill put it on my friends and family wishlist just to get him to round out my collection.

"Possible mis-transformation", remember those words well. The T-Rex head is supposed to fit into the hollow chest.

And speaking of T-Rex, I want T-Wrecks!

i appreciate the info... one way or another ill own this, just do i buy a 2nd to play with? right now the only items i have 2 of are masterpiece and alternity figures, i sold off all my other duplicate transformers (i actually ran into money issues)

Stupidest repaint of the year. For me Beast Wars Megatron is one of those rare characters who needs the dino head/tail arms to be unique. A purple FOC Grimlock is stupid. They should have went with a blue G2 color scheme and they wouldn't even have had to design a new head.

eh, pass. i did not like the mold for grimlock and i dont like it for this.

I need this to be purple, but I'll take the TM colors if that's what it's going to be.

I quite like the idea of a Beast Wars homage. Shame that series has kind of fallen into the past. I'd probably buy it if it was produced.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:the only thing i dont like about this figure is the fact that from the backside he is hollow and it is blazingly obvious.... unless he has a magnificent deco this will be a pass. ill put it on my friends and family wishlist just to get him to round out my collection.

"Possible mis-transformation", remember those words well. The T-Rex head is supposed to fit into the hollow chest.

Yeah, they seem to do a lot of mistransformations... When grimmys dino head is aligned straight he looks fine.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

VioMeTriX wrote:the only thing i dont like about this figure is the fact that from the backside he is hollow and it is blazingly obvious.... unless he has a magnificent deco this will be a pass. ill put it on my friends and family wishlist just to get him to round out my collection.

"Possible mis-transformation", remember those words well. The T-Rex head is supposed to fit into the hollow chest.

Yeah, they seem to do a lot of mistransformations... When grimmys dino head is aligned straight he looks fine.

Not that I think about it, Transmetal Megatron's T-Rex head ended up in the very same place.

This looks promising. Yesssssssssss.

RhA wrote:I need this to be purple, but I'll take the TM colors if that's what it's going to be.

This is why I like your posts.

Va'al wrote:

RhA wrote:I need this to be purple, but I'll take the TM colors if that's what it's going to be.

This is why I like your posts.

I live to serve.

All that talk of GPS in the Laser Rods gallery thread has me wondering about their choice of gold plastic for this test shot: since all the "prototypes" (it's technically only a prototype if the sculptor did some hand-carving on it; a molded figure in simpler colors is called a test shot) that turn up on ebay are supposedly only there through theft, could this guy be the start of a trend of using their excess GPS plastic to produce test shots that'll fall apart in a few years, half-solving the problem? It'd be a shame if a Transmetal Megatron homage ended up suffering the same problem as the Kenner original, so I hope it's not cuz' the real deal will have this same color plastic. Then again, he's not that sparkly...

Bumblevivisector wrote:All that talk of GPS in the Laser Rods gallery thread has me wondering about their choice of gold plastic for this test shot: since all the "prototypes" (it's technically only a prototype if the sculptor did some hand-carving on it; a molded figure in simpler colors is called a test shot) that turn up on ebay are supposedly only there through theft, could this guy be the start of a trend of using their excess GPS plastic to produce test shots that'll fall apart in a few years, half-solving the problem? It'd be a shame if a Transmetal Megatron homage ended up suffering the same problem as the Kenner original, so I hope it's not cuz' the real deal will have this same color plastic. Then again, he's not that sparkly...

Only a certain type of Gold and Bronze plastic is susceptible to GPS, and the plastic of this test shot is not one of them. Nowadays Hasbro is too careful, the latest reported case stems from, ironically enough, the Millenium Falcon. Though Protoform Starscream looks dangerous...

I am confident that Megatron will sport his Transmetal colors. My justification? The head. Note the differences between Megatron's pre-Transmetalization body and his Transmetalized body:




As you can see, his Transmetalized head is much closer to the prototype's.



Plus, Fall of Cybertron Grimlock would look fabulous in Transmetal tan-and-violet.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Though Protoform Starscream looks dangerous...

That's because he is dangerous...

That head is totally Megs. Not sure if would get though...I don't like to have many duplicate molds beyond the Seekers. Plus, the original TM Megatron is still awesome, even by today's engineering standards.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:That head is totally Megs. Not sure if would get though...I don't like to have many duplicate molds beyond the Seekers. Plus, the original TM Megatron is still awesome, even by today's engineering standards.

In my honest opinion, they should either a) rerelease the Transmetal toy with plastics immune to GPS, or b) come up with a new mold that has the exact features the original toy has.

Rated X wrote:Stupidest repaint of the year. For me Beast Wars Megatron is one of those rare characters who needs the dino head/tail arms to be unique.

Forgetting his two-armed, bronze period, are we?

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:Stupidest repaint of the year. For me Beast Wars Megatron is one of those rare characters who needs the dino head/tail arms to be unique.

Forgetting his two-armed, bronze period, are we?

I did forget about that. But knowing Hasbro, they will probably paint him the same color as the one with the dino hand. I'm not a fan of taking older figures that are already fully articulated and doing them over, especially as repaints. There's too many bricks from the 80's that still need a homage. The classics Dinobot and Cheetor were cool because they were original molds meant for those characters.

Rated X wrote:I did forget about that. But knowing Hasbro, they will probably paint him the same color as the one with the dino hand.

Doubtful, since they went so far as to make the new head look like his Transmetal head model instead of his original body's head.

Rated X wrote:The classics Dinobot and Cheetor were cool because they were original molds meant for those characters.

I'll give you Dinobot (especially Takara's beautiful deco of it), but that Universe Cheetor was awful. I'll take the original over it any day.

I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.

Oh, well... I'll probably pick it up just for being a Beast Wars homage in any case.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:Stupidest repaint of the year. For me Beast Wars Megatron is one of those rare characters who needs the dino head/tail arms to be unique.

Forgetting his two-armed, bronze period, are we?

I know I did!

So how does the prototype end up on e-bay before the final version even exists ? Was the idea scrapped by Hasbro ? Anybody else notice the seller claims to have 2 available ?

Rated X wrote:So how does the prototype end up on e-bay before the final version even exists ? Was the idea scrapped by Hasbro ? Anybody else notice the seller claims to have 2 available ?

Step 1. Prototype is made
Step 2. The prototype is used to cast the mold for the final version
Step 3. The newly-casted mold is used to make the final version
Step 4. The prototype gets stolen and put on eBay somewhere between steps 2 and 3

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:So how does the prototype end up on e-bay before the final version even exists ? Was the idea scrapped by Hasbro ? Anybody else notice the seller claims to have 2 available ?

Step 1. Prototype is made
Step 2. The prototype is used to cast the mold for the final version
Step 3. The newly-casted mold is used to make the final version
Step 4. The prototype gets stolen and put on eBay somewhere between steps 2 and 3

One would hope that it's not stolen, but that's sometimes the case.

I can't wait to get this, and while I hope it is in TM colors I will settle for the original colors.

if you settle for less, you will get less than you settled for...

VioMeTriX wrote:if you settle for less, you will get less than you settled for...

What are you, The Sphinx?

lmao... and no im not from mystery men

Nemesis Primal wrote:I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.

Agreed. I wasn't too interested in the figure, considering I have FOC Grim and a TM Megatron, but I'm even less interested since the head is the only thing new.

Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled, but Hasbro's been putting out some really nice retools/remolds recently. For example, Blaster(even though I've yet to find Soundblaster) has just enough new parts(and a new gun) to make him unique, and I really like that figure. In conjunction, the data discs all have excellent remold/retools to make them feel unique, and when compared side by side I was surprised by how different they were.

easy pass, first off i dont think this mold works as a BW Megatron & 2nd the mold itself is extremly disappointing. It looks good in the box but then you take it out & you wish you didnt.

Duke of Luns wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.

Agreed. I wasn't too interested in the figure, considering I have FOC Grim and a TM Megatron, but I'm even less interested since the head is the only thing new.

Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled, but Hasbro's been putting out some really nice retools/remolds recently. For example, Blaster(even though I've yet to find Soundblaster) has just enough new parts(and a new gun) to make him unique, and I really like that figure. In conjunction, the data discs all have excellent remold/retools to make them feel unique, and when compared side by side I was surprised by how different they were.

Oh, I know! They've been retooling like they damn well mean it lately... Why did they have to drop the ball on this, of all possible figures?!

Nemesis Primal wrote:Oh, I know! They've been retooling like they damn well mean it lately... Why did they have to drop the ball on this, of all possible figures?!

Well, I think it was an error to attempt to make a Beast Wars Megatron out of Grimlock. He's a T-Rex, so I understand the temptation, but they took a very bulky mold and made it into a Transformer explicitly designed to be a smaller and more energy efficient design. As a result, Megs' head looks good, but his body is so massive it doesn't look much like his cartoon self.

Think I'll stick with United deluxe Megs.

Please please please let this mean that they're going to make Generations Beast Wars figure now.

I only started collecting TF toys within the last year. Far to late to get any Beast Wars toys in stores, and online prices are WAY out of my league.

well, if its the transmetals beast wars megs them im all for it!

FOR THE ROYALTY!!!!!


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Bought on site.

I will buy one. I shall call him Joe Convoy.

Looks like Grimlock with a Megatron hat.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Duke of Luns wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I really hope they retool it to replace the Autobot symbols with Predacon ones, but everything but the head looks the same. A shame, really... Some more significant retooling (like new Beast Mode arms with two fingers, some retooling of the chest, and new weapons) could have really made this thing pop as Megatron.

Agreed. I wasn't too interested in the figure, considering I have FOC Grim and a TM Megatron, but I'm even less interested since the head is the only thing new.

Maybe I'm getting a little spoiled, but Hasbro's been putting out some really nice retools/remolds recently. For example, Blaster(even though I've yet to find Soundblaster) has just enough new parts(and a new gun) to make him unique, and I really like that figure. In conjunction, the data discs all have excellent remold/retools to make them feel unique, and when compared side by side I was surprised by how different they were.

Oh, I know! They've been retooling like they damn well mean it lately... Why did they have to drop the ball on this, of all possible figures?!

Just because we're seeing this now doesn't mean it'll ever get released right away. Nowadays most molds are outfitted with two planned heads, and more than likely different parts even, with one set used and the other discarded when the toy's constructed. Definitely worth asking at the Hasbro Q&A at Botcon:

"In Generations, we've noticed a trend in retools being no less than a few months apart. Similar to the process of molding two heads at the same time and using only one for a toy (what we called "pretooled heads"), are all parts designed and produced at the same time, or is there switching out of mold sets involved?"

They're gonna need a little bit more than a not-even-smirking BW Megs head and a purple paint job for me to buy this mold again

These prototype images reawaked the urge in me to buy Beast Wars toys.

TulioDude wrote:These prototype images reawaked the urge in me to buy Beast Wars toys.

Beast Wars toys are mostly awesome.

This body doesn't work for BW Megatron. Also, the fangs are to far into his face. I wouldn't mind seeing this head for a future BotCon exclusive using the new Predaking's mold though.

Dclone Soundwave wrote:This body doesn't work for BW Megatron.

It (kinda) works if he's going to be colored like this:

Also, the fangs are to far into his face.

Are you kidding me? The original CGI render/toy has the talons closer to his face than this figure.

I wouldn't mind seeing this head for a future BotCon exclusive using the new Predaking's mold though.

Except that Megatron's Transmetal II head is subtly different than his Transmetal I head.

Dclone Soundwave wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing this head for a future BotCon exclusive using the new Predaking's mold though.

Totally with you on that. (Apart from the BotCon exclusive bit.)

Mindmaster wrote:Except that Megatron's Transmetal II head is subtly different than his Transmetal I head.

BAH!!!! Inconsequential. It'd be a distinctly Megatron head on a dragon's body. That'll do me very nicely.

I don't mind this as long as it looks like beast wars megatron p.s I like the head