First Details on Rumoured Wreckers Amazon Exclusive Subline

If Impactor gets the better head I am in for that. Bulkhead now makes me want to wait on the first one. Hopefully the Jumpstartwrs will have salt-manZ colors. Otherwise Leadfoot is the only one I really care about. The Fosilizers are an easy pass for me

Flashwave wrote:Hopefully the Jumpstartwrs will have salt-manZ colors.

100% agree! Salt-Man X/Z colours would be really cool!

Flashwave wrote:If Impactor gets the better head I am in for that. Bulkhead now makes me want to wait on the first one. Hopefully the Jumpstartwrs will have salt-manZ colors. Otherwise Leadfoot is the only one I really care about. The Fosilizers are an easy pass for me

Fossilizers are an easy pass until they are in 2-packs with figures you do want.

Interesting, a few figures I wouldn't want but no doubt they will be with one that I do. Hopefully they don't scrap the jumpstarters titan masters like the did for dracula. Also more hopefully, that they give springer titan master along with some retooling to make the figure better.

blackeyedprime wrote:Interesting, a few figures I wouldn't want but no doubt they will be with one that I do. Hopefully they don't scrap the jumpstarters titan masters like the did for dracula. Also more hopefully, that they give springer titan master along with some retooling to make the figure better.

I know I wanted the Titans Return Jumpstarters but like the Arcee I never found them and online was sold out or scalpers prices

Springer and Bulkhead I'm gonna pass on, but the rest... gimme, especially the TR Topspin and Twin Twist ones.

As for the non-traditional colors, look no further than the FoC ones:


Transformers Generations Topspin Gallery


Transformers Generations Twintwist Gallery

Yes! I am so excited for this! I can't wait to add them to my Wrecker collection! I really Hope there are more to these. Commander class Broadside, deluxe guzzle, repaint of crankcase into ironfist, bulkhead into Pyro? My list could go on!

If the Topspin and Twintwist really are repaints of the TR versions,I may get them. I have the TT Legends versions because of their ability to interact with the Big Powered set, and having more variants is always good. The fossilizers also interest me. The rest I can skip.

Wait...was G2 Leadfoot ever a Wrecker?

I know DOTM Leadfoot was...could Topspin and Twintwist be redecoed in DOTM colours?

And the fossilizers...a new head and spine turns Paleotrex into a spinosaurus, and I guess a new head, tail, and longer legs turns Ractonite into a mammoth?

MeGrimlock78 wrote:Wait...was G2 Leadfoot ever a Wrecker?

He was a Wrecker in Regeneration 1, and considering he's in the current Wreckers comic as a currently-unaligned character (and as the Mirage repaint this is supposed to be), he could end up becoming a Wrecker again in that.

o.supreme wrote:If the Topspin and Twintwist really are repaints of the TR versions,I may get them. I have the TT Legends versions because of their ability to interact with the Big Powered set,

Just so it's clear, the Hasbro Titans Return versions of the two can interact with Big Powered as well. Sakamoto just used the toys' existing ports to come up with unique combinations that he did. No retooling was done to the Legends versions.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:If the Topspin and Twintwist really are repaints of the TR versions,I may get them. I have the TT Legends versions because of their ability to interact with the Big Powered set,

Just so it's clear, the Hasbro Titans Return versions of the two can interact with Big Powered as well. Sakamoto just used the toys' existing ports to come up with unique combinations that he did. No retooling was done to the Legends versions.

I am aware. I just got the Legends versions because of the Targetmasters. Hopefully new Hasbro versions will be easier to obtain.

o.supreme wrote:If the Topspin and Twintwist really are repaints of the TR versions,I may get them. I have the TT Legends versions because of their ability to interact with the Big Powered set, and having more variants is always good. The fossilizers also interest me. The rest I can skip.

Not sure if you can skip them since these characters will all be in multipacks. It's not indicated what each pack includes, so you'll probably have to get the ones you wanted to skip if you want the fossilizer.

I never had the Titans Return Topspin and Twin Twist, so it'll be nice to have another opportunity to get them. It's a shame there's no mention of a new Whirl or Roadbuster, it would be nice to have the full original Wrecker line-up.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:If the Topspin and Twintwist really are repaints of the TR versions,I may get them. I have the TT Legends versions because of their ability to interact with the Big Powered set, and having more variants is always good. The fossilizers also interest me. The rest I can skip.

Not sure if you can skip them since these characters will all be in multipacks. It's not indicated what each pack includes, so you'll probably have to get the ones you wanted to skip if you want the fossilizer.

Or I could just make a deal with someone here to split the cost, or get the ones I want separately on eBay as I've done in the past.

It would be nice to think that they would sell similar themed bits together, but if battle across time taught us anything, it is that Hasbro will put any mixed group together. But never underestimate the fan market to break these sets up to get just what we want.

Oh I hope there's a new Ironfist

Bah. I saw the headline and got all excited thinking we might get, say, a good Rack n' Ruin toy or a new Whirl. I'm pretty happy with Thrilling 30 Springer, TR Topspin/Twintwist, and MMC Spartan for those characters, and don't consider the Fossilizers or Bulkhead as Wreckers.

I'm curious about this Springer...
Was this who the leaker was referring to when it was mentioned Hastak is trolling with a repainted version?
Will it simply be a Springer with no "battle damage" paint apps?

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm curious about this Springer...
Was this who the leaker was referring to when it was mentioned Hastak is trolling with a repainted version?
Will it simply be a Springer with no "battle damage" paint apps?

I don't think it's springer they meant with that

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm curious about this Springer...
Was this who the leaker was referring to when it was mentioned Hastak is trolling with a repainted version?
Will it simply be a Springer with no "battle damage" paint apps?

I don't think it's springer they meant with that

They were referring to twintwist and topspin, who are not being rereleased in tr/legends colors, but instead a new deco for each mold, implied by their responses to people's guesses as being Saltman X/Z decos (white/dark green instead of white/blue for topspin, yellow/grey instead of blue/white for twintwist)

Additionally, the list provided was for the base molds being used, not necessarily the same characters. So it might not be springer, but instead someone else using the siege springer mold.

alekese wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm curious about this Springer...
Was this who the leaker was referring to when it was mentioned Hastak is trolling with a repainted version?
Will it simply be a Springer with no "battle damage" paint apps?

I don't think it's springer they meant with that

They were referring to twintwist and topspin, who are not being rereleased in tr/legends colors, but instead a new deco for each mold, implied by their responses to people's guesses as being Saltman X/Z decos (white/dark green instead of white/blue for topspin, yellow/grey instead of blue/white for twintwist)

Additionally, the list provided was for the base molds being used, not necessarily the same characters. So it might not be springer, but instead someone else using the siege springer mold.

So then my guess that they'll be repainted into Whirl and Roadbuster could actually be correct? Interesting.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

alekese wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'm curious about this Springer...
Was this who the leaker was referring to when it was mentioned Hastak is trolling with a repainted version?
Will it simply be a Springer with no "battle damage" paint apps?

I don't think it's springer they meant with that

They were referring to twintwist and topspin, who are not being rereleased in tr/legends colors, but instead a new deco for each mold, implied by their responses to people's guesses as being Saltman X/Z decos (white/dark green instead of white/blue for topspin, yellow/grey instead of blue/white for twintwist)

Additionally, the list provided was for the base molds being used, not necessarily the same characters. So it might not be springer, but instead someone else using the siege springer mold.

So then my guess that they'll be repainted into Whirl and Roadbuster could actually be correct? Interesting.

Emerje

It could also be something like Pyro and the Guido Guidi G1 Drift

I would definitely get them if those were the mold reuses.

Why would the "Hasbro trolling" redeco be the Jumpstarters in South American colors when the "Hasbro trolling" redeco is supposed to be a redeco of something "in the CORRECT colors"?

Salt-Man/Robot-Man Z/X don't strike me as what most people consider to be the Jumpstarters' "correct" colors.

Sabrblade wrote:Why would the "Hasbro trolling" redeco be the Jumpstarters in South American colors when the "Hasbro trolling" redeco is supposed to be a redeco of something "in the CORRECT colors"?

Salt-Man/Robot-Man Z/X don't strike me as what most people consider to be the Jumpstarters' "correct" colors.

Oh, no, I guess that part of my initial post wasn't clear: the leaker who gave the info is intending to paint the "trolling" release into it's "correct colors" on their own post-purchase, it isn't releasing that way.

That's the 1st time I've seen Guidi's Drift. If we got a white version of Siege Springer, I'd buy it instantly. Same with a battle damage free Springer himself.

I am hoping from the legacy character graphic shown above, that a Twin-cast is in the works. I mean we have 2 (technically 3) Decepticon communicators, would love to match that on the bot's side.

I posted this in the Kingdom thread a few days ago (since that's where I found the screenshot) and figured I'd post it here too, but this screenshot from the SS86 presentation the other day sure looks like it has an Omega Sentinel redeco of Siege Omega Supreme in it

So I glanced at what the TFW leakers have shared over this weekend, as I wasn't following as actively as usual, and this one is too much of a potential laugh/shitshow not to share. So.

A good number of y'all want a new G1 Breakdown to be a component for that new Menasor, yeah?

Another good number of y'all also want a new Prime Breakdown to go with the Legacy Knock Out, yeah?

...how would y'all feel about both being the same figure?





And to be clear, the leaker that mentioned this said they have not yet actually SEEN said figure, they just were made aware from their source that this is the plan, and so far that leaker's provided info has had an almost spotless track record, so we are in for a RIDE.

Nemesis Primal wrote:So I glanced at what the TFW leakers have shared over this weekend, as I wasn't following as actively as usual, and this one is too much of a potential laugh/shitshow not to share. So.

A good number of y'all want a new G1 Breakdown to be a component for that new Menasor, yeah?

Another good number of y'all also want a new Prime Breakdown to go with the Legacy Knock Out, yeah?

...how would y'all feel about both being the same figure?





And to be clear, the leaker that mentioned this said they have not yet actually SEEN said figure, they just were made aware from their source that this is the plan, and so far that leaker's provided info has had an almost spotless track record, so we are in for a RIDE.

Not entirely spotless, and also I believe that this leaker has also retired from giving actual leaks. That said, someone else did point out that Wreckers Breakdown which is based on Prime's seems to have been G1-ified, and not just a straight transplant like he had been in IDW1. I'm taking it with an entire salt mine's worth of doubt because there's no way they'd do that to Menasor if they're going full Sunbow

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:So I glanced at what the TFW leakers have shared over this weekend, as I wasn't following as actively as usual, and this one is too much of a potential laugh/shitshow not to share. So.

A good number of y'all want a new G1 Breakdown to be a component for that new Menasor, yeah?

Another good number of y'all also want a new Prime Breakdown to go with the Legacy Knock Out, yeah?

...how would y'all feel about both being the same figure?





And to be clear, the leaker that mentioned this said they have not yet actually SEEN said figure, they just were made aware from their source that this is the plan, and so far that leaker's provided info has had an almost spotless track record, so we are in for a RIDE.

Not entirely spotless, and also I believe that this leaker has also retired from giving actual leaks. That said, someone else did point out that Wreckers Breakdown which is based on Prime's seems to have been G1-ified, and not just a straight transplant like he had been in IDW1. I'm taking it with an entire salt mine's worth of doubt because there's no way they'd do that to Menasor if they're going full Sunbow

Overquoting to say that such an hybrid Breakdown is impossible. Especially because both characters are completely different and have completely different vehicle modes.

If a PRIME Breakdown is ever made, he will only be some bull$hit pretool of some other character like P. Bulkhead and P. Arcee.

I was skeptical originally, but that's also how they did the special teams in Combiner Wars, introducing a limb that didn't fit the G1 origin. In those cases though, there were ultimately later releases of the missing G1 limbs as exclusives. It would be very weird to me if they didn't provide some option for a more traditional Breakdown, even if it's a redeco of another Stunticon that doesn't have the precise alt-mode.

Edited to add: consider too that the Sunbow Menasor has Breakdown as a leg with the underside facing forward. Assuming they stick with that design, in combined mode at least, it would only look out of place from the back. Still weird as a team outside of combined mode, though.

Honestly, my hope is that the Stunticons are similar to POTP Predaking where you can't switch the jobs, so leg bots are leg bots, arm bots are arm bots, but you can switch position, so they could be swapped from left to right. This would mean that even if current rumors/leaks are right about mainline Breakdown being Prime inspired, we could maybe get a repaint/head remold of Wildrider as G1 Breakdown and he could take his place as a leg

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Honestly, my hope is that the Stunticons are similar to POTP Predaking where you can't switch the jobs, so leg bots are leg bots, arm bots are arm bots, but you can switch position, so they could be swapped from left to right. This would mean that even if current rumors/leaks are right about mainline Breakdown being Prime inspired, we could maybe get a repaint/head remold of Wildrider as G1 Breakdown and he could take his place as a leg

Not that I want to deny anybody a character they want, I have to say I hate that idea.

Maybe it's a Breakdown with the G1 altmode, G1 robot mode proportions, Prime head, and Prime deco.

Or any number of combinations between the G1 and Prime versions of the altmode, robot mode, head, and deco.

I think the rumor says the alt-mode is the Prime version.

Wow...I'm glad I can avoid this altogether. I have a solid UW Menasor with the entire original team, and Prime Breakdown as part of UW Grand Galvatron

Link to the most direct post from the original source of the rumor:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19797167

Edit: there are also multiple posts in the thread being snarky: has Seibertron newsed this yet?

AcademyofDrX wrote:Link to the most direct post from the original source of the rumor:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19797167

Edit: there are also multiple posts in the thread being snarky: has Seibertron newsed this yet?

Not sure if baseless rumors are newsworthy.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Link to the most direct post from the original source of the rumor:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19797167

Edit: there are also multiple posts in the thread being snarky: has Seibertron newsed this yet?

Not sure if baseless rumors are newsworthy.

Right, I think that's the implication. There have been posts from randos saying they'd like to feed fake "news" to this site in other threads.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Link to the most direct post from the original source of the rumor:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19797167

Edit: there are also multiple posts in the thread being snarky: has Seibertron newsed this yet?

Not sure if baseless rumors are newsworthy.

Right, I think that's the implication. There have been posts from randos saying they'd like to feed fake "news" to this site in other threads.

Including from this leaker

Hasbro wouldn’t do us dirty like that. All indications are that this will be more or less G1 cartoon (Sunbow) Menasor with current Generation stylings, like the strong G1 influence on most of the War for Cybertron Trilogy.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Hasbro wouldn’t do us dirty like that. All indications are that this will be more or less G1 cartoon (Sunbow) Menasor with current Generation stylings, like the strong G1 influence on most of the War for Cybertron Trilogy.

Exactly.

Regarding the "rumors", never forget this golden Internet rule: don't feed the trolls.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Link to the most direct post from the original source of the rumor:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19797167

Edit: there are also multiple posts in the thread being snarky: has Seibertron newsed this yet?

Not sure if baseless rumors are newsworthy.

Well, we do have a whole Rumors thread containing news posts dedicated to Legacy and other upcoming figures, as well as a Rumors news category.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Link to the most direct post from the original source of the rumor:
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19797167

Edit: there are also multiple posts in the thread being snarky: has Seibertron newsed this yet?

Not sure if baseless rumors are newsworthy.

Well, we do have a whole Rumors thread containing news posts dedicated to Legacy and other upcoming figures, as well as a Rumors news category.

I know, but the rumors must at least be based on something tangible.

We haven't newsed these rumours yet and are unlikely to.

I still don’t think this rumor is true, but the idea itself is kinda fun: making an established combiner out of different individual versions of the Stunticons from across the multiverse, in a line where different Transformers continuities will be crossing over with one another. However, Hasbro knows that kind of high concept just won’t sell as well as a faithfully updated G1 version of the team.

Mmm, a LOT of skepticism to this one, but I'm gonna post what got added overnight before I start responding to any of it specifically, namely:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I still don’t think this rumor is true, but the idea itself is kinda fun: making an established combiner out of different individual versions of the Stunticons from across the multiverse, in a line where different Transformers continuities will be crossing over with one another. However, Hasbro knows that kind of high concept just won’t sell as well as a faithfully updated G1 version of the team.

...not quite that, but the leaker is saying we're getting as follows:
-Dragstrip is the only one that is full-send G1 (who we have already seen)
-Motormaster and Dead End both have references in their decos to other versions of them, RiD15 Motormaster and RotF Dead End specifically
-Wildrider has a chainsaw like his Stunti-Con Job version
-Breakdown is a G1-ish TFP Breakdown but also a Menasor limb

EDIT:...someone linked this info already while I was asleep I see, whoops.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I still don’t think this rumor is true, but the idea itself is kinda fun: making an established combiner out of different individual versions of the Stunticons from across the multiverse, in a line where different Transformers continuities will be crossing over with one another. However, Hasbro knows that kind of high concept just won’t sell as well as a faithfully updated G1 version of the team.

This neat idea would be perfect for Select.

Honestly if these guys were CW compatible, I'd be more willing to believe these rumors because then they'd be able to say "CW Breakdown is able to replace the new Legacy Breakdown in combined mode", but as is I'm struggling to fully believe it

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Honestly if these guys were CW compatible, I'd be more willing to believe these rumors because then they'd be able to say "CW Breakdown is able to replace the new Legacy Breakdown in combined mode", but as is I'm struggling to fully believe it

Well, if the Menasor leg design is such that you just plop the leg bot in car mode into a sleeve, then you don't need CW compatibility, you just need a 5mm post on the leg/foot where the back bumber of the car goes, and viola, compatible. And this would translate to just about any CW car that would physically fit in the sleeve. I don't think that is what Hasbro would do, but they did just make a tower mode for Slammer to use on a toy that came out even before CW, so who knows anymore.