First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255

Transformers News: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255

Friday, November 29th, 2019 11:17PM CST

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As anyone and their grandma could have guessed, MP-49 Masterpiece Black Convoy will be a redeco of MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0. An image has surfaced on the weibo account Momo. The price was also revealed to be 28000 yen, which is around $255 USD. This is much cheaper than the original version because, as the image shows, there is no trailer accessory. The image itself seems to have been cut out of its background since some parts have been shaved off, making it a terrible first look at the figure. But at least it gives us an idea of what we will get, which is your standard black redeco with teal highlights and red windows. Unlike the previous black prime MP, this might not be an exclusive, so it could be available from Japanese sellers such as Amazon Japan who tend to sell it for less than MSRP. We first heard of this toy through a listing from site sponsor BBTS.

Transformers News: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255
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Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045618)
Posted by SkyFire Prime on November 29th, 2019 @ 11:49pm CST
Wow, that's boring. I like Black repaints, but yeah this is boring. Hoping for the toy colored version.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045619)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on November 30th, 2019 @ 12:13am CST
Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045620)
Posted by Randomhero on November 30th, 2019 @ 12:21am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.



Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045621)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on November 30th, 2019 @ 12:47am CST
Randomhero wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.



Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.

...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045626)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 30th, 2019 @ 5:15am CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.



Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.

...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).

It's confusing but there has been Japanese repaints of prime that are just Optimus in a black paint job as a (terrible) disguise so he can infiltrate the cons. Nucleon Quest Convoy for example, a black repaint of God Ginrai. If that symbol is a con in the final release then it's just Nemesis/Scourge, if it stays a Bot one, then it's just Optimus.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045627)
Posted by frogbat on November 30th, 2019 @ 5:24am CST
Was expecting them to star releasing him as repaints at cheaper prices. Who knows maybe one day we can scoop him up for less that 180 but alas till then I’m all budgeted out
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045629)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on November 30th, 2019 @ 5:57am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.



Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.

...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).

It's confusing but there has been Japanese repaints of prime that are just Optimus in a black paint job as a (terrible) disguise so he can infiltrate the cons. Nucleon Quest Convoy for example, a black repaint of God Ginrai. If that symbol is a con in the final release then it's just Nemesis/Scourge, if it stays a Bot one, then it's just Optimus.

What I meant was, until recently, Black Convoy was one of the main Japanese names for Nemesis Prime/Scourge characters, so this fits right in with that. And yeah, Optimus himself has donned a black paint job to infiltrate the Decepticons before, but when he's doing that, he's also usually wearing Decepticon insignia, like with the United Black Optimus Prime figure. Plus, RID Scourge had upside-down blacked-out G2 Autobot emblems, so it's not like Nemesis Primes haven't worn Autobot emblems before (without going out and searching every black repaint of Optimus Prime, I'm sure there are other examples). Taking all that into account, I don't really think the insignia is gonna have much bearing on what specific character this is supposed to be.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045630)
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 30th, 2019 @ 7:01am CST
Yo be fair though it sounded like you were discounting the possibility when we simply can't say at this juncture. He's pretty much Schrodinger's Prime at the moment. At least till we get more information (if BBTS got the right info, we're supposed to hear something around the 5th of December)
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045631)
Posted by william-james88 on November 30th, 2019 @ 7:20am CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Taking all that into account, I don't really think the insignia is gonna have much bearing on what specific character this is supposed to be.

Does any of it truly matter though? In the end nomatter what he's called, it will be a typical black prime redeco with teal and red windows. He can be whatever character anyone wants. And if the symbol is an issue, just put a sticker to change it.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045635)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2019 @ 9:04am CST
Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?

Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045638)
Posted by Black Hat on November 30th, 2019 @ 10:22am CST
I ain't feeling it. Normally any Prime mold looks great in Nemesis colours, but something looks really off about this.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045640)
Posted by william-james88 on November 30th, 2019 @ 10:47am CST
Sabrblade wrote:Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?

Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.

How does this matter in any way?
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045641)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on November 30th, 2019 @ 11:37am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.



Yeah. That’s why it’s called black convoy. Not nemesis prime or scourge. It’s black convoy. He’s a thing that exists.

...Black Convoy is a frequent Japanese name for Nemesis Prime though (and RID Scourge).

It's confusing but there has been Japanese repaints of prime that are just Optimus in a black paint job as a (terrible) disguise so he can infiltrate the cons. Nucleon Quest Convoy for example, a black repaint of God Ginrai. If that symbol is a con in the final release then it's just Nemesis/Scourge, if it stays a Bot one, then it's just Optimus.


That happened only once, with the United release. Other black Optimuses had different backstories, usually tying into some mysterious property of the color.

Sabrblade wrote:Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?

Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.


Just a few actually:

- JAFCon Convoy
- Nucleon Quest Super Convoy: special coating that allows him to travel into Black Holes to obtain Nucleon
- MP-1B Convoy Black Ver.: Eldedroid or remote-controlled robotic double
- Alternity Convoy Super Black: reformed Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime
- Black Super Fire Convoy
- Animated Optimus Prime Black Version: despite being repurposed into a Nemesis, he has :BOT:
- Prime Dark Guard Optimus Prime: reverse-engineered MECH alloys
- Darkside Moon Jetwing Optimus Prime Black ver.
- Lost Age Black Knight Optimus Prime

william-james88 wrote:How does this matter in any way?


Even a small change in food makes one eat. :POPCORN: It'd be the first black redeco with :BOT: since 2015's Black Knight if memory serves me right.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045642)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2019 @ 11:55am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Have there been that many black Optimus redecos from Takara lately that weren't some version of Nemesis Prime, though? I mean, yeah, they did release a lot of "good guy Optimus but in black" toys in years past, but have they continued that trend as of late?

Strictly asking about Takara releases, not Hasbro or Fun Pub.


Just a few actually:

- JAFCon Convoy
- Nucleon Quest Super Convoy: special coating that allows him to travel into Black Holes to obtain Nucleon
- MP-1B Convoy Black Ver.: Eldedroid or remote-controlled robotic double
- Alternity Convoy Super Black: reformed Universe 2003 Nemesis Prime
- Black Super Fire Convoy
- Animated Optimus Prime Black Version: despite being repurposed into a Nemesis, he has :BOT:
- Prime Dark Guard Optimus Prime: reverse-engineered MECH alloys
- Darkside Moon Jetwing Optimus Prime Black ver.
- Lost Age Black Knight Optimus Prime
So, none, then (see bolded text).
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045649)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2019 @ 5:38pm CST
It's been pointed out that the headsculpt looks a little different from that of MP-44.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045650)
Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit on November 30th, 2019 @ 5:42pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's been pointed out that the headsculpt looks a little different from that of MP-44.


Could very well be artifacting. We'll know more with the official announcement and pics.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045654)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on November 30th, 2019 @ 8:26pm CST
Man, as much as I don't collect Masterpiece (and skipped on MP-44 for being too expensive to buy when I don't collect Masterpiece), I am such a sucker for Nemesis Primes I may very well get this.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045662)
Posted by Torneira on November 30th, 2019 @ 11:10pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is that a :BOT: on his shoulder? If so, it's simply Optimus Prime in black, not Nemesis Prime.



I don't know for sure, because I'm looking with my 5 inch cellphone, but I think I see the :CON: symbol instead...
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045665)
Posted by william-james88 on November 30th, 2019 @ 11:42pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).


Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
Also with the idea of G1 being so prevalent right now, I get that the repaint would be a G1 black convoy homage.
Re: First Image of MP-49 Shows a Black Prime Redeco and Price Revealed to be $255 (2045666)
Posted by Sabrblade on November 30th, 2019 @ 11:45pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So, none, then (see bolded text).


Why does it matter exactly when the last time they put an autobot symbol? The fact that one of the MP Primes already went that route is precedent enough.
MP-1B wasn't named "Black Convoy".

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