First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird

First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird

Friday, July 26th, 2019 12:00pm CDT

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Back in SDCC 2019, we almost saw all the rumoured reveals. Almost. One of the most tangible rumours left was of an upcoming Nightbird figure based on Siege Chromia. And, low and behold, we have our first image of this toy. It appeared on twitter where we see Siege Nightbird on top of her Generations Select type box.

We know this will be an exclusive of some sort, we just don't know where exactly yet. Also, since it is based on Chromia, it cannot be a combiner limb. So, what do you think? Is the Takara one (pictured below) better? Let us know!

Transformers News: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird

Transformers News: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird

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Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031724)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on July 26th, 2019 @ 12:11pm CDT
I think I prefer the Chromia mold as Nightbird. She looks loads better than the Legends figure in my eyes too. I really like this, and this may confirm that the listings we had may in fact be genuine.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031727)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 26th, 2019 @ 12:22pm CDT
Despite the legends having a better alt and being more G1 like in robot mode, I think the Sieges ronot mode works really well for the figure and the colors do it justice. I have the legends figure so no no need for me to pick this up.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031730)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on July 26th, 2019 @ 12:24pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Thus the change to a 12 month line, and a limitation on repack waves. Unfortunately...now we are kind of going into uncharted territory with Siege getting a 5th wave making it more of a 15 month line as opposed to a 12 month one, and pushing *Armageddon* (just calling it that for now until Hasbro makes an official announcement) off into spring of 2020, as opposed to Q1 2020.


Actually, I think Siege will still end up being a 12 month line with Armageddon hitting in early to mid Q1 2020.

Think about how the end of TR and PotP went with the final wave having only 1 new figure and lining up with Christmas. In both of those cases, there really wasn't much new product on the shelves for the largest toy sales potion of the year. Both of those were of the 1 waver per quarter general format, but the reality was waves 2-4 for the calendar year kept creeping earlier and earlier leaving a void at the end of the year, that ended up needing to be filled by the next line's first wave showing up in November.

Now with a 5th wave, they have a wave they can time for the Christmas rush and not have to move up the next line into this year. At least that is my speculation on how/why Hasbro decided on a 5th wave.

I would imagine retailers would like this too. They would not have to change things over for a new line until they are also resetting the toy aisles after the Christmas rush.

Next year will really be the year to see if that works. Some of the reason that waves 2-4 have crept forward within the year was because wave 1 was hitting in November. This 5th wave could easily be a 1 time thing just to let them reset the timing of the waves and new line.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031738)
Posted by Stargrave on July 26th, 2019 @ 12:56pm CDT
Chromia’s alt mode is super slick it doesn’t get enough love it’s like a female Blur looking car I love it but I bet it’s going to look soooo hot in black.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031741)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 26th, 2019 @ 1:07pm CDT
Hmm. I'm not sure on that Nightbird, I might go for it as I have no desire for Chromia and I already have Legends Arcee. But I do think the LG version is perhaps a tiny bit better looking. That said, my headcanon that Nightbird is but one of many similar-looking ninjas (from the Yami no Tori ninja temple on the feudal world of Caminus, along with the Shadowhawks, AKA Energon Divebombs yes I do put too much thought into this sort of thing why do you ask) means there's scope for more than one Nightbird, even as someone that prefers her as a "normal" Transformer rather than a manmade robot.

I think my opinion will be decided on the accessories. If she has some cool ninja weapons I'm in for certain, if not I might be browsing Mandarake for an LG figure.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031743)
Posted by joevill on July 26th, 2019 @ 1:15pm CDT
Sad that she cannot combine but looks awesome!
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031744)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 26th, 2019 @ 1:27pm CDT
She looks alright, but I like the Legends version I already have.

They need to make another female TF mould. Seriously. Or even just tweak an older one they already have more substantially as the did for the first Chromia. All the female TFs don't need to share a mould.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031746)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on July 26th, 2019 @ 1:34pm CDT
Well this is easily the best this mold has ever looked, and I've never had access to the Legends figure, so I'm getting this. Plus once I explained Nightbird to my girlfriend because of this, she's now very excited about her too, so there's that. I am curious what she'll have in terms of accessories though, as Chromia's buildable sniper rifle doesn't really fit for her.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031748)
Posted by Grahf_ on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CDT
I don't like Chromia but I do like the look of that Nightbird. Then again, it's difficult to make those colors look bad.

I know full well that Chromia is NOT the same mold as Moonracer but instead they share only the hips, thighs, wheels and basic design. That being said, I'd rather they have used the Moonracer mold again instead of Chromia. Even though they're two different molds, Chromia is held back far too much by following so closely to the Moonracer design. They didn't change enough of the design when making Chromia to make up for it not being able to combine. There's quite a bit more they could have done now that they changed the design to not combine yet not much else was changed. It's almost worse overall since there's nothing you can do with the backpack in robot mode. There's also no way to fan mode the alt mode like you can with Moonracer. Chromia looks better in alt mode and might be slightly better in robot mode but I'd rather have the options and the combining function.

I'll end up getting it even though I already have the LG version.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031749)
Posted by Aimless Misfire on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:07pm CDT
Is there a reason why Nightbird always has to transform into a stupid car???
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031750)
Posted by Flashwave on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:09pm CDT
Tough call, as much as I dislike the looks of that Chromia mold I think this is a more solid toy. But I think I too prefer the Legends toy.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031752)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:16pm CDT
Aimless Misfire wrote:Is there a reason why Nightbird always has to transform into a stupid car???

Sure beats her turning into a Lada. (Though for a ninja that's a good disguise- nobody expects their death to arrive in the form of a dreadful Soviet-era car!)
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031754)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:20pm CDT
I'm going to have to pass on this. It looks alright, but I'm already struggling to afford everything without another retool I only vaguely like.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031757)
Posted by Brokebot on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CDT
Skipping this one like I skipped Chromia. Stripping the mold of it's combining ability pretty much killed my interest in Chromia, and Nightbird just doesn't give me enough nostalgia feels to bother.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031761)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:45pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:
Aimless Misfire wrote:Is there a reason why Nightbird always has to transform into a stupid car???

Sure beats her turning into a Lada. (Though for a ninja that's a good disguise- nobody expects their death to arrive in the form of a dreadful Soviet-era car!)


Lada didnt get any love during the diaclone era, it would be great if it finally gets a transformer, good memories of my families...erm..some one elses families Lada.

Nightbird should get an earth mode, ninja kawasaki bike is my choice for her despite it being a bit obvious.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031762)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 26th, 2019 @ 2:54pm CDT
I hope we get a new Flamewar. I'm sure WFC will have new a new Arcee and Windblade too.
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031767)
Posted by Microbot on July 26th, 2019 @ 3:58pm CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:I hope we get a new Flamewar. I'm sure WFC will have new a new Arcee and Windblade too.



Will be great! But I hope a new mold and not like the other females bot...don't like the combiner form or gimmick or Chromia shape. So I hope the make a new one, also don't like Nightbird too
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031768)
Posted by Latebrus-K on July 26th, 2019 @ 4:02pm CDT
Skipping this one since I somehow got the Takara one. This is probably a better mold choice for Nightbird's ninja warrior characterization, but Takara had silver paint =P~
Also, the greeble isn't doing this one any favors
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031769)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 26th, 2019 @ 4:11pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I'll concede that comparing Siege Jetfire to RoTF Jetfire was a bit harsh. He's not as bad. But close. Looking at the underside, I see arms, shoulders, legs, knees.

You can see all those on the T30 figure even more prominently, plus the robot mode head and the faux-cockpit chest. I think they blend much better on the SIEGE figure and don't look any more out of place than, say, those of Classics Jetfire or the Classics Seeker mold. And at least on SIEGE Jetfire the arms and legs are actually properly integrated or at least tucked into the altmode (unlike T30 Jetfire), and the altmode cockpit is actually integrated into the robot mode. That's the sticking point for me, is your dismissing him as "A robot laying down with a plane draped over him" when he has that much integration. If you can write that off as "A robot lying down with a plane draped over him", then you're writing off every jet mold ever aside from maybe Cybertron Jetfire and ROTF Dirge.
To put it another way, I think the label of "A robot laying down with a plane draped over him" should be reserved for extreme cases, those where if you subtracted the plane bits you'd still have most of the robot.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Look at all those gaps. Just as bad from the side view. On an $80 Commander Class figure it is unacceptable to have these errors in engineering. There should have been panels to cover them up, or at least have the transformation fill them in.
Now that remark I take no issue with, because there really are some annoying gaps and no mistake. The altmode leg gap in particular is the absolute stupidest; they should either have had a panel that extended from the backpack, or made the inner faces of the legs more square (at least at the back). I personally don't find the side gaps as bad. I mean, it would have been nice to have them covered, but it does pose the question of where you'd put the panels and what would be sacrificed for them.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Because of the difference in size, the gaps are more prominent in Siege Jetfire than Generations Jetfire. That figure is by no means close to perfect, which is why I haven't bought it yet, but it looks better than this.
Less gappy, certainly, but it has far more painfully visible (and unintegrated or badly-integrated robot bits) so I'd say it's a tradeoff. And he doesn't have the cartoon altmode either... Honestly, I'd say that if SIEGE Jetfire doesn't float your boat then you're better off with either the original toy or the Classics version.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I bought the Siege figure even after watching reviews, because the robot mode looked good on screen. In hand? Not as good. Not bad, but not as good. Too bland.
Honestly, I'd put that more down to his color scheme being "Overall white with minimal red, black, and blue accents" than anything else. A super-detail paintjob would probably mitigate that, but regular release mainstream TFs never have those (they'd be half again as expensive if they did, if not moreso). Maybe try panel-lining him, even if it's just with a ballpoint pen, see if that helps?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Bottom line for me (and again, this is just my opinion, I'm not stating facts so don't have an aneurysm) this is a disappointment for the money spent and the size and space it occupies.
Alright then, be disappointed. Although I feel I have to reiterate that the money spent is largely because of the space it occupies :P

Rodimus Prime wrote:I mean, this is halfway to a Titan-sized figure, and it looks like someone enlarged a deluxe figure.
Eh, leaving aside the simplicity of G1 character designs I think he's too articulated and feature-laden for that. Especially compared to these bozos:
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Those would be $80 too if they were to be sold today.

Wolfman Jake wrote:A lot of us, myself included, don't really pay enough attention to the "play factor" of these figures either. Jetfire has a LOT of that going on for him, with blaster/thruster/damage effect parts, the ability to fit a Titan Master into his cockpit, and hang bars to "fly" Deluxe Class figures into battle. He's even got a ton of extra armor and weapons to play "dress up" with!

Is Commander Class Jetfire worth $80? He's half the price of Omega Surpeme ($160) and just as tall and massive as a Combiner Wars combiner ($80 - $110). If the transformation were more involved, including numerous robot kibble hiding panels, we'd be talking about a Masterpiece level of engineering, and the $80 price point would blow up like no one's business (well, I guess maybe Takara's business). So, $80 seems right to me, but then again, some people would argue that $20 is too much for a Deluxe sized figure now.
This is why he seems a good deal to me and I still want him, even with the stupid altmode leg gap.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Well this is easily the best this mold has ever looked, and I've never had access to the Legends figure, so I'm getting this. Plus once I explained Nightbird to my girlfriend because of this, she's now very excited about her too, so there's that. I am curious what she'll have in terms of accessories though, as Chromia's buildable sniper rifle doesn't really fit for her.
A buildable sniper rifle doesn't suit a ninja? What about a silenced pistol? Or grenades?

Gauntlet101010 wrote:She looks alright, but I like the Legends version I already have.

They need to make another female TF mould. Seriously. Or even just tweak an older one they already have more substantially as the did for the first Chromia. All the female TFs don't need to share a mould.
Well, in Nightbird's case she was never a Transformer to begin with. Just a curvy female ninjabot. And she's technically only sharing a mold with Chromia here. Chromia shares a lot of engineering with the PotP Moonracer mold, but almost every part is new tooling.

But yes, more female TF molds - including non-curvy oines - is a good thing. I wish that they had done a new one for Firestar or at least made an effort to reshell her into being a truck like she is in the cartoon. I wonder how hard that would be to kitbash...
Re: First Image of Transformers Siege Nightbird (2031782)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 26th, 2019 @ 5:16pm CDT
Honestly, I quite like that Siege Nightbird. However, the thing I feel really disappointed with the Chromia major retool of the fem-combiners is they did NOT take any advantage of removing the combiner parts. They could have used the empty space to make a way tighter backpack by folding the panels inside. But here, the backpack is one ginormous block that rest on lot of empty space. A totally wasted opportunity.

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