First Images of Henkei Skyfire and Ramjet!

I think I prefer Classics Ramjet... alot. Henkei version just looks boring.

I don't really like that Skyfire, which is great, because it means I don't have to buy it to replace my Classics one!

I like Skyfire.

I actually prefer the Hasbro versions over these.

Hmmm, that's odd, I actually prefer the US release over the Henkei versions. Goodie, I don't have to spend the extra money. Still, gotta get me Henkei Starscream though.

Dead Metal wrote:I actually prefer the Hasbro versions over these.

I can't say there are ANY of the Henkei versions that I prefer of the Classics versions. Maybe Starscream, but that is it. These ones just look boring, not even garish like the first wave.

Apparently not all Japan touches is gold afterall. Lackluster redecos.

Dead Metal wrote:I actually prefer the Hasbro versions over these.

Yea, I've gotta agree.

I like the Jetfire, bit not more than the one I've got, and I prefer the US Ramjet.

That said, my Astrotrain is in at BBTS, pile-o-loot here I come!

Skyfire looks great! Ramjet is ok.

Wow they both look great wish JetFire have a little mor red.

Looks like the chrome is on Skyfires thrusters/missles and on Ramjets fins and highlights his launchers.

I like Skyfires color scheme

Not too much of a difference between these and the Hasbro versions.

I also wonder where's the chrome. It looks like there might be alittle chrome gold on Ramjets shoulder sections - the two sections by where the jets nosecone would be.

I like both, they look great to me. I'd choose both over the US versions for sure. But since I stopped collecting Classics figures I'm not replacing my Ramjet and will not buy Skyfire as well... I can't buy all of them .

All the Henkei seem pretty inferior to the Hasbro line... maybe with the exception of Astrotrain if he didn't have those chrome boosters.

Lay off the chrome, Japan!!! It's 2008... Chrome isn't impressive anymore!!!

I like the chrome on Skyfire's booster

Meh, pass. There's just nothing noteworthy about these two. And I agree with the posters who say Ramjet is dull looking.

It's not fair! Those so much more show-accurate than our overly detailed versions. These are awesome, yet we won't be getting them.

I think Ramjet's alt mode looks sweet.
May have to get that one.

I've never been a fan of Jetfire... Don't even know why.
Maybe this summer I'll get one though, I'll have to wait and see how much Animated is draining my account.

Down_Shift wrote:Looks like the chrome is on Skyfires thrusters/missles and on Ramjets fins and highlights his launchers.

Good eye: Skyfire's chrome is on his jetpack/booster engines (his missiles look like transparent material to me). Ramjet's is on the very back of his tailfins/vertical stabilizers.

I'd consider Jetfire an improvement because of his head but I'm not so sure about Ramjet.

I can't tell the difference...

Both look way better than the US versions, especially Ramjet… I absolutely hated the grilled fish red on the Hasbro version, and this one just looks so much more detailed and clean.

Still, I cant afford to re-buy all these toys so I’ll just get the ones I missed the first go around.

Hoping to see some pics of Henkei Sunstreaker and Prowl soon…

skyfire bot looks ok but he just reminds me alot like the seekers with his guns on his forarms like that.

ramjet looks great in robot mode but colors paint theme seem little bit low for my stadards henkie prime, and megatron ar differnt in some ways i guess i expeceted skyfire, and ramjet to look a little differnt them selves but good figures series is just not for me thougt.

i will get some figures in this series but not all of them there just not getting my attention like hte others bumblebee, prime, mirage, with others

Not bad

I like them both. Skyfire has better detailing, and Ramjet is more G1 accurate.

Looks like my pre-orders will stay up.

Seibertron wrote:I'd consider Jetfire an improvement because of his head but I'm not so sure about Ramjet.

The head does look more show accurate. Does Skyfire seem to have less red on his alt mode? His tailfins and nosecone look very plain.

I am not sure if I like Classics or Henkei Ramjet better. Henkei is more show accurate. But the red on Classics seems to be a bit darker

err... Ramjet doesn't look... well... he doesn't look finished.

Stormrider wrote:I am not sure if I like Classics or Henkei Ramjet better. Henkei is more show accurate. But the red on Classics seems to be a bit darker

The red on classics isn’t really even red, its more of an rust color. Which is why I prefer this version.

Meh for both.

They certainly aren't bad re-deco's its just that they are not different enough to warrant a purchase.

I'm so glad i skipped on the entire classics line cause now i'm going to get these guys.

henkei astrotrain is on his way and i think i'll get henkei skyfire next.

rpetras wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:I actually prefer the Hasbro versions over these.

Yea, I've gotta agree.

I like the Jetfire, bit not more than the one I've got, and I prefer the US Ramjet.

That said, my Astrotrain is in at BBTS, pile-o-loot here I come!

What they said. Unless something comes along and WOWs me, outside of AstroTrain I'm passing on all these.

First thing I buy when I get a job is Henkei Astrotrain.
I'd buy him now but I'd rather pay down my credit card a touch more before putting anything else on it.
Yay being a student!

I quite like Skyfire. He has a show accurate paintjob and it is a great mold. Fans have been wanting Skyfire since the original Jetfire was released. Here he is and fans are complaining. The manufactures must get disappointed when the give us something we want and then complain. This could lead us down a path where Hasbro/TakaraTomy stop producing things for collectors. Oh, Ramjet is quite good to. Dont have him yet so might wait for the Henkei version.

Trikeboy wrote:I quite like Skyfire. He has a show accurate paintjob and it is a great mold. Fans have been wanting Skyfire since the original Jetfire was released. Here he is and fans are complaining. The manufactures must get disappointed when the give us something we want and then complain. This could lead us down a path where Hasbro/TakaraTomy stop producing things for collectors. Oh, Ramjet is quite good to. Dont have him yet so might wait for the Henkei version.

In my case, I already own the Classics Jetfire and love it, so the Henkei version doesn't have enough differences to warrant a purchase. I actually prefer the colors of the Hasbro version. If I hadn't already purchased a version of this figure I'd be all for it.

Trikeboy wrote:I quite like Skyfire. He has a show accurate paintjob and it is a great mold. Fans have been wanting Skyfire since the original Jetfire was released. Here he is and fans are complaining. The manufactures must get disappointed when the give us something we want and then complain. This could lead us down a path where Hasbro/TakaraTomy stop producing things for collectors. Oh, Ramjet is quite good to. Dont have him yet so might wait for the Henkei version.

Okay, shoot me if you must, but I can't see a "huge" difference between Classics and Henkei Jet/Skyfire.
Care to explain the differences to me?

The only differences are paint apps or lack thereof, different colors in different spots, and the addition of chrome. So no big difference really, just enough to have preference for one version over another.

Trikeboy wrote:I quite like Skyfire. He has a show accurate paintjob and it is a great mold. Fans have been wanting Skyfire since the original Jetfire was released. Here he is and fans are complaining. The manufactures must get disappointed when the give us something we want and then complain. This could lead us down a path where Hasbro/TakaraTomy stop producing things for collectors. Oh, Ramjet is quite good to. Dont have him yet so might wait for the Henkei version.

I second that.

This being a site of free flowing ideas, but I've noticed this trend of putting down a product without even giving it a second chance. I too was guilty of such an attitude (wayyyyyyyyyy back with KISS Convoy, I swore I won't get the Alternator but ended up with the KISS Player).

I don't like the latest animated series because of the freaky designs but am willing to give the Voyager Optimus a second look if he is a worthy purchase.

It is a matter of preference. Me. I've got one of the first releases of Jetfire and am stoked as hell to get Skyfire (and what's this critique on the chrome? They look great but still, its just a pic, the proof in the pie is the eating)

I've noticed several opinions downgrading the Henkei stuff but the self same individuals don't actually own one one. How come? If you can't afford the purchase, then don't get one.Stop calling the units this and that.

You can only criticize a product if you actually OWN one and not base it on some notion that I prefer Hasbro or Takara.

Love the wings on Ramjet.

fenrir72 wrote:This being a site of free flowing ideas, but I've noticed this trend of putting down a product without even giving it a second chance. I too was guilty of such an attitude (wayyyyyyyyyy back with KISS Convoy, I swore I won't get the Alternator but ended up with the KISS Player).

I don't like the latest animated series because of the freaky designs but am willing to give the Voyager Optimus a second look if he is a worthy purchase.

It is a matter of preference. Me. I've got one of the first releases of Jetfire and am stoked as hell to get Skyfire (and what's this critique on the chrome? They look great but still, its just a pic, the proof in the pie is the eating)

I've noticed several opinions downgrading the Henkei stuff but the self same individuals don't actually own one one. How come? If you can't afford the purchase, then don't get one.Stop calling the units this and that.

You can only criticize a product if you actually OWN one and not base it on some notion that I prefer Hasbro or Takara.

I'd say you're almost right. I can easily criticize a book without owning it, by having read parts of it.
I can criticize a car based on reviews of fuel consumption, safety standards etc.
I can say I'm not fond of the Wii because I've played it many times and truly am not fond of it.
I don't NEED to own something to decide whether or not I like it, or the way it looks.

Took me forever to figure out what the big difference between Classics and Henkei but I finally noticed that the rear of the canopy is painted over on the Takara version. I actually does made it look more G1 show accurate than Classics.

Okay, now I'm interested in buying it. My Classics one broke an antler off of the helmet anyway.

Ramjet is a maybe if I find it at a 'con or something but not without seeing more of it.

That's pretty cool. The smaller cockpit makes the plane appear larger in perspective.

Ramjet doesn't look too bad....G1-esque.....colors, though, need some help.


I would possess it, but not likely to buy it myself.

To NucleonConvoy, let me rephrase it then, you don't have to own one but at least get a handle of the item first then say, this is total cr@p!

A majority here will say Ohhhhhhh I won't get Henkei or Ohhhh I won't get Classics when they haven't even handled one. Me, I probably am lucky that I have a pal who owns a toy store, so I can like hold a toy first before I criticize.

A bunch here will just yap and say this when they even haven't actually handled one or just can't afford it. A true collector will find a way..............

Heck next, we'll be getting Omega Supreme sucks, he ain't articulated blah,blah,blah

fenrir72 wrote:Heck next, we'll be getting Omega Supreme sucks, he ain't articulated blah,blah,blah

Not articulated?? He could WALK for pete's sake!!!

Now, it's true that we base most of our opinions of things we don't own on first impressions. We all do it. It's part of the human condition. But the only way to change opinions is through exposure to the item in question. So far all we have is a couple of bad pictures and a price tag. The question is two fold: do the pics justify the price and is the price worth replacing what I already have/ what is already available to me. Ramjet, based on the pics and the price tag plus the fact that I already own one, is not worth the price at this time. Skyfire is, based on design changes and the personal fact that mine is broken.

No need to get snarky (either of you) or make this personal.

Pardon me if I sounded snarky. I too was guilty of shoot first ask questions later, but for pete's sake ,give the line a chance.

fenrir72 wrote:Pardon me if I sounded snarky. I too was guilty of shoot first ask questions later, but for pete's sake ,give the line a chance.

Oh, I am. I really want Henkei Astrotrain. He's gorgeous looking and I always prefrered the Cartoon colours to the white ones.

I mean no offense to you NuclearConvoy, this observation was addressed to all people out there who keep on dissing the line, I stand corrected to have to re-phrase from your input.

It will all boil down to personal preference but just give the line a chance.

It isn't the first time that the japanese version tend to suck (not always) but more often than not is presented better.

Superlink had brighter colors but no batteries (suck)

Grand Convoy was obese (and no electronics) (also sucked) but had IMHO better colors

Sonic Bomber a mishapened visor (suck)

Now we have an opportunity to own "improved(okay that is a matter of opinion) versions, some imperfections corrected though Grimlock in this case won't lock up properly thanks to the chrome.

We're gonna be expecting the Seekers,the Italian brothers and Galvatron among others, so it will be a good year for us collectors, just that, some may prefer the Henkei over the US so either give each line a chance or just say nothing at all.

After closely studying Henkei Skyfire, I noticed that his coloring is more closely connected to the Cartoon version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-LSEB7jUko&feature=related



Here are comparison pics of Ramjet:

Stormrider wrote:After closely studying Henkei Skyfire, I noticed that his coloring is more closely connected to the Cartoon version.

Yeah, thats what I was talking about it even has the gun Skyfire had on the show. This figure has been designed for the fans who have wanted a Skyfire toy for the last 20 years. Here are a couple of pics to compare it to the G1 episode "Fire in the sky":