First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex

First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex

Monday, September 14th, 2020 9:06am CDT

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We saw some bigfoot sighting worthy photos of upcoming figures this week-end. But now, we have some clear photos. The issue is, they aren't transformed all that well, but this give us a really good look at what to expect in 2021.

Images of Studio Series 86 Deluxe Kup and Voyager Hot Rod were posted on Vector Sigma. They shouldn't be too different in size since the "size class" price point isn't strictly based on the size of the figure, as anyone who bought "leader class" Doubledealer can attest. Hot Rod is said to come with a lot of accessories, hence the higher price point.

We also see the Fossilizer Paleotrex, whose body can be seperated into weapons. for instance, his robot head can become the mace for Optimusl Primal. You can see that in the previously shown images.

Transformers News: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex

Transformers News: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex

Transformers News: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex

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Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080087)
Posted by Master Farr 1 on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:15am CDT
Does Hotrod have an Alternate head?
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080088)
Posted by skycutter on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:22am CDT
can't wait for them to show hot rod saw,and kups energon goody box
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080089)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:23am CDT
Master Farr 1 wrote:Does Hotrod have an Alternate head?


the image we had seen before didn't look to have the visor. idk if that's an alternate head as much as a deployable visor. even horribly miss-transformed as him and kup are... got to admit I am excited. I love my TR and PotP hotrod and kup. but I could easily swap them for these.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080090)
Posted by cruizerdave on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:23am CDT
This is why it's so important for Hasbro to release images before leaks like this get out. Yeah, we know it's just errors in transformations, but now our first impression of these figures is a Kup that has awkward shoulders and a Hotrod with stumpy arms.
They'll never get that chance to blow me away with awesomeness back. No matter how good the figures are, I'll always remember these mistransformed mistakes.

It's really too bad.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080091)
Posted by william-james88 on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:24am CDT
That Kup shows that they aren't really making those figures accurate to sunbow ala MP style. They are adding details that were not present on the animation model (like all that chest detailing). Looks more like another place to put excess WFC figures rather than actually going with the theme of replicating what we see onscreen.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080093)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:34am CDT
Hasbro: Still pretending that Hot Rod wasn't straight up FUCHSIA in the 1986 movie. ;)
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080094)
Posted by jtanimator on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:41am CDT
william-james88 wrote:That Kup shows that they aren't really making those figures accurate to sunbow ala MP style. They are adding details that were not present on the animation model (like all that chest detailing). Looks more like another place to put excess WFC figures rather than actually going with the theme of replicating what we see onscreen.

Interesting that this is your takeaway, since I just came away from these pics realizing that Hasbro seems to be much more focused on screen accuracy instead of addition detailing with these since both Kup and Hotrod have SIGNIFICANTLY less panel details and much more blank spaces across their design then anything we've seen from WFC. Disappointing to me, but maybe you like your dedicated G1 accuracy. To each their own!
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080095)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 14th, 2020 @ 9:49am CDT
Yep, overflow WFC figures. Had to release a certain high number of G1 figures, and wanted to finally get some Beast Wars into the mix since it's been hammered into them for a decade or so, so the other G1 figures go to/infect SS.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080096)
Posted by Tuned Agent on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:03am CDT
william-james88 wrote:That Kup shows that they aren't really making those figures accurate to sunbow ala MP style. They are adding details that were not present on the animation model (like all that chest detailing). Looks more like another place to put excess WFC figures rather than actually going with the theme of replicating what we see onscreen.

I've never known why people were so sure it would be something different from WFC. The bizarre character choices like Jazz (who had at most 10 seconds of sceen time in the 86 movie) and the fact that at this point there's no character overlap between this and WFC were dead giveaways to me that SS86 was meant to compliment the WFC figures, not do something different.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Yep, overflow WFC figures. Had to release a certain high number of G1 figures, and wanted to finally get some Beast Wars into the mix since it's been hammered into them for a decade or so, so the other G1 figures go to/infect SS.

^This. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080097)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:10am CDT
I want to see how Hot Rod's arms transform. Isn't there a scene in the movie where his arms rotate 180 degrees? I think this figure may do something like that, which is an uncommon approach for a Hot Rod toy.

I complained in the earlier thread about screen accuracy over transformation and the negative mini Masterpiece approach of other figures like ER Arcee, but the more I see of it, the more I want to give this Hot Rod a chance.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080099)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:20am CDT
Going by the leak we saw earlier, you know, the "Big Foot sighting footage," this looks to be an amazing rendition of Hot Rod. In this clearer pic, the figure is obviously very mistransformed. The arms are completely backwards! You can tell from the hollow parts on the "tops" of the fists, the missing forearm sculpting and paint details, the missing white paint apps on the shoulders, and the fact that the wheels are facing front, not back, on the shoulders. If this is a Deluxe-scaled figure at the Voyager price point, I think some of that extra cost could come from added accessories, but my bet is that the extra "value" is found mostly in the complexity of the figure at the Deluxe scale. I'm not sure how those arms get turned around when you transform him the right way, but it's got to be at least a little more complicated than what we usually see in a Deluxe Class War for Cybertron Trilogy figure. Looks like those hands are articulated as well, a la Earthrise Optimus Prime. I wouldn't be surprised if the wheels on the outsides of the lower legs can be rotated to the back of the legs instead as well, but time will tell. It's not the end of the world for me if they don't, since that's where the end up usually on the majority of Hot Rod toys, including the original G1 figure, but I've got a good feeling, just based on how well the rest of the figure seems to come together in robot mode (when properly transformed).

Kup looks a little less on point to me, unfortunately. I don't mind the added "tech" detailing under the windshield, as Kup is a Cybertronian pick-up truck, and that matches with other Cybertronian car forms we've seen in the War for Cybertron Trilogy so far, particularly in Siege. But, he is missing some paint apps, like some gray on his midriff, and I don't like that his back wheels are just in the middle of his shins in robot mode. Maybe something wraps around from the back of the legs to cover them up? Looking at Kup's character model, his shins do push out quite a ways further than the upper parts of his legs, and these lower leg panels seem to be flush from the knee down to the feet (which also look to be very mistransformed). It's easy to see how the shoulder and side torso assemblies are suppose to come together, so I'm not dinging the figure for that, but the "Huffer hoodie" behind the head is way too far up. It should really only come up to the top of the neck/base of the "skull."
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080101)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:35am CDT
Well there goes the theory that they had put these in Studio Series because of the mission statement of the line, guess it was sadly just more G1. Ah well, what can you do? >:oP
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080102)
Posted by LeAwesome1 on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:44am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well there goes the theory that they had put these in Studio Series because of the mission statement of the line, guess it was sadly just more G1. Ah well, what can you do? >:oP

I think the whole point of it is because of the original Transformers Movie, at least thats what I believe, so in a way it makes sense and it could be a way to get some versions of those characters without any weird gimmicks.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080104)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:46am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well there goes the theory that they had put these in Studio Series because of the mission statement of the line, guess it was sadly just more G1. Ah well, what can you do? >:oP


Isn't this what we expected all along, though? I'm not terribly disappointed. Going off the apparent mistransformations of both Hot Rod and Kup, I'm guessing these are still very screen accurate representations of the figures when all is said and done (correctly). Again, these look like potential "Mini Masterpieces" like other figures from the War for Cybertron Trilogy. These figures manage to fill TWO major boxes at once, being G1 screen accurate to the cartoon AND to the 1986 animated movie, which is essentially the original Sunbow cartoon with a bigger animation budget. Hence, these two look very close to how they looked on screen in The Transformers: The Movie, with the glaring exception that Hot Rod is deep red and not fuchsia. ;)

Is it not the "mission statement" of the studio series to present figures from Transformers movies in as accurate of detail to the big screen as possible? It just happens to be that for the 1986 animated movie, that is the same thing as looking like the G1 cartoon.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080105)
Posted by sol magnus on September 14th, 2020 @ 10:52am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Yep, overflow WFC figures. Had to release a certain high number of G1 figures, and wanted to finally get some Beast Wars into the mix since it's been hammered into them for a decade or so, so the other G1 figures go to/infect SS.

I'm okay with it.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080108)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 14th, 2020 @ 11:17am CDT
sol magnus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Yep, overflow WFC figures. Had to release a certain high number of G1 figures, and wanted to finally get some Beast Wars into the mix since it's been hammered into them for a decade or so, so the other G1 figures go to/infect SS.

I'm okay with it.

When we get multiple consecutive years with fewer than a dozen G1 toys released in it, it would be OK.

WFC. WFC Netflix. Selects. Cyberverse (basically kiddy G1 with a hell of a lot better fiction and a little better grasp on varying source materials). RED. Even the dollar store releases in Evergreen style.

It's like you've already drowned and someone is still trying to get you to drink water.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080109)
Posted by sol magnus on September 14th, 2020 @ 11:20am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Yep, overflow WFC figures. Had to release a certain high number of G1 figures, and wanted to finally get some Beast Wars into the mix since it's been hammered into them for a decade or so, so the other G1 figures go to/infect SS.

I'm okay with it.

When we get multiple consecutive years with fewer than a dozen G1 toys released in it, it would be OK.

WFC. WFC Netflix. Selects. Cyberverse (basically kiddy G1 with a hell of a lot better fiction and a little better grasp on varying source materials). RED. Even the dollar store releases in Evergreen style.

It's like you've already drowned and someone is still trying to get you to drink water.

It's easy for me to be okay with it, since I have bought Bayverse characters since Hunt for the Decepticons. I do admit, it's a bit much in terms of sheer volume, but that's our choice as to how much and what we buy. It's going up, even for me, because I have a young son who has fallen in love with the characters, too.

Heck, my daughter has already asked me for Earthrise Arcee, and when she finds out there's a Hot Rod I'm going to end up needing THREE of them.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080116)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 14th, 2020 @ 11:33am CDT
It probably boils down to money £30 for a ss voyager compared to a £23 wfc voyager. Wfc collectors are going to wish they were released as wfc :( Plus it probably widens the target consumers ss figures are aimed at in parts of the world, so more sales there too.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080120)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 14th, 2020 @ 11:42am CDT
I don't remember there being that much of a price discrepancy with the UK price :-? But admittedly I might not have noticed.
Re: First in Hand Look at Studio Series 86 Kup, Hot Rod and Kingdom Paleotrex (2080121)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 14th, 2020 @ 11:48am CDT
These look really nice. The fossilizer looks better than I thought he would.

As much as I like Hot Rod more, Rodimus Prime is really the missing link in the animated movie cast. Still he looks fantastic!

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