First Look at Legacy Breakdown's Robot Mode and Better Look at Alt Mode

So...... he's basically a retool of Wildrider, with a spoiler. I wonder why Hasbro decided to go with that instead of a new mold, like the other 3 limbs got.

Bounti76 wrote:So...... he's basically a retool of Wildrider, with a spoiler. I wonder why Hasbro decided to go with that instead of a new mold, like the other 3 limbs got.

A retool is fine in the sense that the transformation is the same so they can be legs, I just wish the grille was more Lambo like. I see they...tried, but I'm not all that happy with the result. The spoiler is helpful.

sol magnus wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:So...... he's basically a retool of Wildrider, with a spoiler. I wonder why Hasbro decided to go with that instead of a new mold, like the other 3 limbs got.

A retool is fine in the sense that the transformation is the same so they can be legs, I just wish the grille was more Lambo like. I see they...tried, but I'm not all that happy with the result. The spoiler is helpful.

I agree, I too would have liked them to change the grill. It could have made a major difference to have both the front and back be different, while still reusing a portion of shared shell with Wildrider for the windshield and sides

Are we really surprised that this is a repaint/retool of Wildrider? Hasbro's cost savings/laziness is a little maddening. If they stay true to form they will most likely release a new molded Breakdown as a dang exclusive that will be compatible with this version of Menasor that will be horded and sold for scalped prices. If I remember correctly this would be similar to how they did in combiner wars version of Wildrider as a truck by a different name then actually brought out a more legit looking Wildrider later. Wish they could just stick the landing and not get lazy when completing a group. Cant wait to see what corners they cut on SS86 Snarl and Swoop. So disappointing.

Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

BLIX007 wrote:Are we really surprised that this is a repaint/retool of Wildrider? Hasbro's cost savings/laziness is a little maddening. If they stay true to form they will most likely release a new molded Breakdown as a dang exclusive that will be compatible with this version of Menasor that will be horded and sold for scalped prices. If I remember correctly this would be similar to how they did in combiner wars version of Wildrider as a truck by a different name then actually brought out a more legit looking Wildrider later. Wish they could just stick the landing and not get lazy when completing a group. Cant wait to see what corners they cut on SS86 Snarl and Swoop. So disappointing.

CW Offroad was always meant as a new character (originally Ruckus) and not as a replacement (tho TFwiki was a bit confused with how he fit, along with Alpha Bravo), with Wildrider coming later. I'll have you know that that "cost saving/laziness" are what got Combiner Wars made in the first place.

So yeah, this Breakdown is what we'll get, tho I'm wondering why the front was kept as is. No more room in the mold that was switched out?

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I don't think they'll be pulling that trick with this Breakdown, the CW are exceptions because they made new members first (except Blast Off who was the only one to retain the character, just not the alt mode)

Bare in mind that pattern was only accurate for the first original gestalt teams, and that might have had something to do with what Takara were doing with Unite Warriors.

Also I don't think he looks that bad with the group, or even noticeable in a group vehicle shot.

Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

BLIX007 wrote:If they stay true to form they will most likely release a new molded Breakdown as a dang exclusive that will be compatible with this version of Menasor that will be horded and sold for scalped prices.

Umm...

BLIX007 wrote:If I remember correctly this would be similar to how they did in combiner wars version of Wildrider as a truck by a different name then actually brought out a more legit looking Wildrider later.

They replaced Wildrider with Offroad in order to have a character in the Stunticon line up who was a completely different mold from the other stunticons. They later released Wildrider as a simple retool of Deadend, because people were upset that Hasbro had chosen creativity and having differentiated products on the shelves over maintaining G1 accuracy. The same thing happened with Alpha Bravo (mass release, completely new mold) and Quickslinger (exclusive, lazy retool).

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

ZeroWolf wrote:I don't think they'll be pulling that trick with this Breakdown, the CW are exceptions because they made new members first (except Blast Off who was the only one to retain the character, just not the alt mode)

Bare in mind that pattern was only accurate for the first original gestalt teams, and that might have had something to do with what Takara were doing with Unite Warriors.

Also I don't think he looks that bad with the group, or even noticeable in a group vehicle shot.

Also, a new mold means more money spent, a slot occupied and pretools to consider that take up more space. Considering we already have several car molds in Legacy as is, Menasor is all cars (like Superion is all jets, just warning you...), it wouldn't do sales much good if Legacy was all cars, right?

I will admit, things could have been different if Menasor was spread across 2 years...

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Doesn’t matter either way. Once he’s fully revealed and once he’s out everyone will have moved on and treated the next figure as the worst figure ever and call hasbro lazy for not reading their minds and giving them exactly what they want just like every reveal of a figure. Every figure is the worst figure ever till the next one with certain fans who hate everything

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Only because Takara made their own Blast Off. Hasbro was content with just the jet one. Releasing the shuttle one some years later was not the original plan.

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Oh please let’s not pretend that takara blastoff pulls off the shuttle mode at all and has decent proportions. He was a box with wings. His arms hung off the side his chest was ridiculous unless you configured him how hasbro chose to he has thrusters for hands and his deco wasn’t right plus he did the thing this fandom things is taboo and parts formed. Takara! Takara the company that can’t do wrong did that by themselves! If anything hasbro at least took the mold and decoed it better and for cheaper

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Doesn’t matter either way. Once he’s fully revealed and once he’s out everyone will have moved on and treated the next figure as the worst figure ever and call hasbro lazy for not reading their minds and giving them exactly what they want just like every reveal of a figure. Every figure is the west figure ever till the next one with certain fans who hate everything

Haha, right? I'm constantly in awe of the TF fandom's ability to set themselves up for disappointment with unrealistic expectations. Meanwhile, raggedy Masters fans just go "please, sir, may we have another repaint?"

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Who are Breakdown's wavemates? Maybe it was they who ate too much of the budget for that Deluxe class wave, leaving Breakdown to be a retool instead of a new mold.

He didn’t have any. He was part of package refreshes from wave one plus wheejack but rumors are they’ve shuffled around wave four and moved wave one of evolution into it.

So like we've seen before then with Siege wave 5 and the last wave of Kingdom

Doesn’t matter either way. Once he’s fully revealed and once he’s out everyone will have moved on and treated the next figure as the worst figure ever and call hasbro lazy for not reading their minds and giving them exactly what they want just like every reveal of a figure. Every figure is the west figure ever till the next one with certain fans who hate everything

Haha, right? I'm constantly in awe of the TF fandom's ability to set themselves up for disappointment with unrealistic expectations. Meanwhile, raggedy Masters fans just go "please, sir, may we have another repaint?"

It would not surprise me at all if the most critical of breakdown have criticized the last two stunticons relentlessly as well

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Looks better with the spoiler, but he's still basically just a white Wild Rider. Really lazy way to end the set. But as there's no other way to compete the set, so one must buy it.

I will be supper annoyed if they release Ana ctual Breakdown later with a completely new car shell, like they did with CW members.

You do understand that wildrider from combiner wars was literally deadend with a new head right?

How was that more accepting than this a figure that has a new rear car, spoiler, guns torso and head.

The combiners wars version legit didn’t look anything like wildrider aside from his head and you folks are treating it as if hasbro gave you what you wanted. You got two limbs that were identical in alt mode. That’s not what you’re getting here

I mean things like Blastoff. Were we got an actual Blastoff later. Not repaints of the same. mold in basically the same line with a wave difference.

Oh please let’s not pretend that takara blastoff pulls off the shuttle mode at all and has decent proportions. He was a box with wings. His arms hung off the side his chest was ridiculous unless you configured him how hasbro chose to he has thrusters for hands and his deco wasn’t right plus he did the thing this fandom things is taboo and parts formed. Takara! Takara the company that can’t do wrong did that by themselves! If anything hasbro at least took the mold and decoed it better and for cheaper

Not the point. Whether Blastoff was good or bad is not relevant. The fact it exists in addition to the jet blastoff, and would have been a better option form the get go is the point.

If Takara decides to make a new Breakdown a year form now and Hasbro decides the also want to release it 2 years from now, and that BreakDown is better than this one because it at least looks more like BreakDown is kind of a cheap tactic.

I don't think any of the other stunt icons are bad. I did not criticize them for what they did. I just think making Breakdown the same mold as Wild Rider after all the ingenious engineering and design of the other figures was lazy.

Would you be o.k if they just repainted DragStrip brown and called him Dead End? We got a distinct mold for Dead End even though they both do the same thing to combine with Menasor. Would retooling the front to look more like a Lambo be too much to ask for?