First Look at Legacy United Infernac Universe Nucleous
Wednesday, April 24th, 2024 9:37PM CDT
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It's easy to see that this upcoming figure is a partial retool and total recolor of the previously released Infernac Universe Magneous, now in a white and gold color scheme, transforming into a rocky muscle car style vehicle; very reminiscent of the retool of Scraphook into Axlegrease.




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Posted by Bounti76 on April 24th, 2024 @ 9:50pm CDT



Those of you who are Cybertron fans, what's your take on this figure? Is it a decent enough retool from the original use of the mold? Were you going for something different? Let us know your thoughts below!
Posted by william-james88 on April 24th, 2024 @ 10:06pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 24th, 2024 @ 10:08pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 24th, 2024 @ 10:33pm CDT
Vector Prime is one I'll definitely want to see the physical figure on because he is not looking good.
Nucleus is kinda neat, but not crazy about the colors.
Emerje
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 24th, 2024 @ 11:49pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:23am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:41am CDT
The arms and legs are still the same.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wow, I don't see Jihaxus in Vector Prime at all.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 25th, 2024 @ 2:13am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The arms and legs are still the same.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wow, I don't see Jihaxus in Vector Prime at all.
Maybe it's because it's been awhile but I still don't see it. Not a bad thing mind you, it's amazing how they can hide repaints retools.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 25th, 2024 @ 2:26am CDT
For comparison:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The arms and legs are still the same.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wow, I don't see Jihaxus in Vector Prime at all.
Maybe it's because it's been awhile but I still don't see it. Not a bad thing mind you, it's amazing how they can hide repaints retools.



Posted by Big Grim on April 25th, 2024 @ 4:27am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Those of you who are Cybertron fans, what's your take on this figure? Is it a decent enough retool from the original use of the mold? Were you going for something different? Let us know your thoughts below!
I like him well enough and Jhiaxus is a brilliant figure to build off of but it mildly annoys me that they CAN give him a cyber planet ket that does nothing but CAN'T give him Safeguard! After the Hot Shot repaint, I'd hoped they'd figured out we want minicons with their bigger partners.
Ah well. I still have my Takara Vector Prime.
~ Grim
Posted by -Kanrabat- on April 25th, 2024 @ 4:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:For comparison:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The arms and legs are still the same.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Wow, I don't see Jihaxus in Vector Prime at all.
Maybe it's because it's been awhile but I still don't see it. Not a bad thing mind you, it's amazing how they can hide repaints retools.
Now that you're showing this, the empty clips where the bat-wings should be are bothering me to no end.
They could have added some tiny wings, some canons, anything to fill in that space. As is, it looks like an incomplete/broken toy.

Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 25th, 2024 @ 6:19am CDT
Hot Shot is a nice sided deluxe, good and big!
Vector Prime surprised me with how good he looks. not perfect mind you, but I wasn't expecting that retool, and he looks pretty decent.
Posted by ScottyP on April 25th, 2024 @ 7:26am CDT
I love that Jhiaxus mold and love Vector Prime but those are two great tastes that should never have been put together.
Posted by Emerje on April 25th, 2024 @ 7:42am CDT
ScottyP wrote:That is an awful Vector Prime in nearly every way. Save the $35 and put it towards the original. Would have been better off making a "Missing Link" style VP that just added a waist joint and some ankle tilts/thigh and bicep swivels/etc to the Cybertron toy.
I love that Jhiaxus mold and love Vector Prime but those are two great tastes that should never have been put together.
Yeah, I'm really struggling to enjoy it at this stage, especially after Kanra just pointed out those empty clips on the legs. Hopefully it's still early enough for them to take some constructive feed back and make some quick reworks like they did with Earthrise Optimus Prime.
Emerje
Posted by ScottyP on April 25th, 2024 @ 7:51am CDT
I hope you're right but with the really right window between reveal and release these days, not optimistic. Though for me, optimism would be "they cancel it altogether and go back to the drawing board" which ain't realisticEmerje wrote:Yeah, I'm really struggling to enjoy it at this stage, especially after Kanra just pointed out those empty clips on the legs. Hopefully it's still early enough for them to take some constructive feed back and make some quick reworks like they did with Earthrise Optimus Prime.

Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on April 25th, 2024 @ 7:54am CDT
There, I agree with you. Seems they can still wrench that size out of a modern Deluxe if they really need to; I was really worried about that, but seeing him be a bit taller than SS86 Hot Rod... it seems they managed to pull it off (albeit at the cost of a tiny key slot). I'm annoyed that they didn't fit the Accelewings on the clear yellow sprue, but other than that he looks pretty damn good.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Magneous looks like cocaine, hopefully no one tries to crush him up.
Hot Shot is a nice sided deluxe, good and big!
Here, however, I disagree with you hard. Being a Jhiaxus retool means his transformation is almost completely wrong and he's missing the backpack, and on a Cybertron character being way off like that is INCREDIBLY painful. And just like with Starscream (who was at least a new mold, albeit a waste of one considering), being a modern Voyager makes him a midget (the only Cybertron Voyager who could be adequately done as a modern Voyager is maybe Leobreaker, and even that's a stretch). The best I can say about him is "there was an attempt", and I don't know that it was an attempt worth making. This would be passable as a wallet-friendly SG Alpha Trion, but as Vector Prime himself... it's a complete write-off piece of garbage that belongs in the same reject pile as Universe Hot Shot.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Vector Prime surprised me with how good he looks. not perfect mind you, but I wasn't expecting that retool, and he looks pretty decent.
They need to try again, at Leader size, with a fully new mold.
And I think maybe we should stop asking for more Unicron Trilogy remake figures, until they prove they can consistently do a good job.
There is no amount of "quick reworks" that can salvage that Vector Prime. Looks extremely wrong both below the waist and from behind, transforms almost completely wrong, way too small with pathetic wings, doesn't have the sword storage... They should either change the release to SG Alpha Trion, or cancel it entirely and put whichever suit approved wasting money on the new parts on two years' unpaid admin leave.Emerje wrote:ScottyP wrote:That is an awful Vector Prime in nearly every way. Save the $35 and put it towards the original. Would have been better off making a "Missing Link" style VP that just added a waist joint and some ankle tilts/thigh and bicep swivels/etc to the Cybertron toy.
I love that Jhiaxus mold and love Vector Prime but those are two great tastes that should never have been put together.
Yeah, I'm really struggling to enjoy it at this stage, especially after Kanra just pointed out those empty clips on the legs. Hopefully it's still early enough for them to take some constructive feed back and make some quick reworks like they did with Earthrise Optimus Prime.
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Destron on April 25th, 2024 @ 8:48am CDT

Well I'm sure it's a cost thing as usual, they didn't include Sparkplug with Armada Optimus so I guess we may see more missing counterparts as we go forward...'nuff said!!!

Posted by Emerje on April 25th, 2024 @ 10:34am CDT
Nothing much to say about Sideburn.
Nucleus is based on nucleon as his element, reflected in the silver parts. They wanted him to look like an old school robot in bot mode.
Cybertron Hot Shot was designed by Takara Tomy from start to finish.
Mark admits he wasn't thrilled with using the Jhiaxus mold for Vector Prime but was won over by the deco.
Pre-orders launch today.
I don't plan on newsing this, it wasn't all that interesting. The most interesting thing from the livestream was the Spacebridge mentions.
Emerje
Posted by kuhlio on April 25th, 2024 @ 11:04am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on April 25th, 2024 @ 11:14am CDT
Emerje wrote:Legacy Wave 3 stuff from the stream:
Nothing much to say about Sideburn.
Nucleus is based on nucleon as his element, reflected in the silver parts. They wanted him to look like an old school robot in bot mode.
Cybertron Hot Shot was designed by Takara Tomy from start to finish.
Mark admits he wasn't thrilled with using the Jhiaxus mold for Vector Prime but was won over by the deco.
Pre-orders launch today.
I don't plan on newsing this, it wasn't all that interesting. The most interesting thing from the livestream was the Spacebridge mentions.
Emerje
Nothing we did not already know about.
Still pre-ordering Hot Shot the moment it's available. You can tell this was a Takara project end to end it's just so accurate to the OG and the cartoon. Still odd the wings are red and not the same translucent yellow as the windshield.
Swoop, is apparently coming back in stock at some point closer to release which is always a good thing. Will order him then.
I may break down and get Vector Prime, he looks better in the photos and in the video, but that jet mode is just not very good. Nice that he's compatible with OG Safeguard and his sword ain't floppy.
Also getting Side Burn, even if the car mode is not a Viper. no mention as to why they chose to forego the licensed Viper mode. Maybe too expensive for multiple uses. I expect this mold to be repainted again at least a couple more times.
No interest rock car #2
Also interesting they did point out Leader Springer is just a beefed up Siege Springer in some way. We'll see what that actually means.
Interested in SS-86 Bee (Netflix VW or something else?) and Straxxus: Will he be a new mold? Or a retool? Don't think there's any mold out there to use for him, maybe Galvatron?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 25th, 2024 @ 11:22am CDT
Posted by LE0KING on April 25th, 2024 @ 11:27am CDT
The result is rough, but I appreciate the amount of work went into it.
Also to the guy hating on cybertron starscream; Hush, that's a fantastic figure. Figures are smaller now, they have been since the reboot, but they are in scale with each other. Starscream is tall for a current voyager and is a fantastic overall toy. Please don't call for the cessation of Cybertron figures, I love them.
Posted by ScottyP on April 25th, 2024 @ 11:50am CDT
This, 100%. The most painful part of stuff coming out that just looks bad (to me) is also knowing full well that someone did their best under the constraints imposed on them by their overlords to make something cool. Sometimes, it just doesn't work out.LE0KING wrote:Man just imagine being the poor guy at Takara being told to turn Jiaxus into Vector Prime with a set budget. I bet he put a ton of work and effort making it the best he could, knowing that no one would like it.
The result is rough, but I appreciate the amount of work went into it.
I also wish there was budget for them to let Mark tell the story in his head for these rock dudes in some capacity somewhere. A mini pack-in comic would have been cool. Anything to make what is, again maybe just to me, a tough sell design-wise more compelling. There's clearly a great deal of thought and creativity there not being communicated outside of the tiny bits shared in these streams.
Posted by kirbenvost on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:04pm CDT
It's rather annoying then, that most (all?) of these releases are going to be Walmart exclusives and difficult to get.
Posted by kuhlio on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:13pm CDT
- Hasbro Pulse Exclusive Comic Series Grimlock (Due August 1, 2024)Hasbro Pulse
- Generations RID Sideburn (Due September 1, 2024)Hasbro Pulse, Big Bad Toy Store
- Generations Infernac Nucleus (Due September 1, 2024) Hasbro Pulse, Big Bad Toy Store
- Generations Cybertron Hotshot (Due September 1, 2024) Hasbro Pulse, Big Bad Toy Store
- Generations Cybertron Vector Prime (Due October 1, 2024)Hasbro Pulse, Amazon, Big Bad Toy Store

They have also posted preorders for the new Robosen Flagship Megatron. Preorder this 21 inch behemoth at either Hasbro Pulse or Robosen
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:13pm CDT
kirbenvost wrote:I honestly love both Vector Prime and Hot Shot. Galaxy Force/Cybertron was the first new series I got into when I started collecting as an adult (had already missed parts of Energon), so there's some major nostalgia for me.
It's rather annoying then, that most (all?) of these releases are going to be Walmart exclusives and difficult to get.
Nothing revealed/seen/teased today is an exclusive except for Grimlock, who is a pulse exclusive
Posted by kirbenvost on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:16pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:kirbenvost wrote:I honestly love both Vector Prime and Hot Shot. Galaxy Force/Cybertron was the first new series I got into when I started collecting as an adult (had already missed parts of Energon), so there's some major nostalgia for me.
It's rather annoying then, that most (all?) of these releases are going to be Walmart exclusives and difficult to get.
Nothing revealed/seen/teased today is an exclusive except for Grimlock, who is a pulse exclusive
Ah, thanks. I was looking at the 2025 leaks which include Cybertron/Galaxy Force characters and mistakenly assumed that meant some of these would be. Glad these two will be readily available at least.
Posted by First-Aid on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Razorbeast88 on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:21pm CDT
Maybe it's because I'm not as attached to the character but I like the jhiaxus mold and I don't think this is so bad
The proportions are a little lanky/wonky but I think it looks good
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:24pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm annoyed that they didn't fit the Accelewings on the clear yellow sprue, but other than that he looks pretty damn good.
Overcracker wrote:Still pre-ordering Hot Shot the moment it's available. You can tell this was a Takara project end to end it's just so accurate to the OG and the cartoon. Still odd the wings are red and not the same translucent yellow as the windshield.
My guess is that the wings are too pointy on the ends to be able to use the hard clear plastic, or too fragile on the drop test, and so they had to use something softer and had to settle for that color sprue.
Posted by Overcracker on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:28pm CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm annoyed that they didn't fit the Accelewings on the clear yellow sprue, but other than that he looks pretty damn good.Overcracker wrote:Still pre-ordering Hot Shot the moment it's available. You can tell this was a Takara project end to end it's just so accurate to the OG and the cartoon. Still odd the wings are red and not the same translucent yellow as the windshield.
My guess is that the wings are too pointy on the ends to be able to use the hard clear plastic, or too fragile on the drop test, and so they had to use something softer and had to settle for that color sprue.
Possibly.
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
Posted by Sabrblade on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:30pm CDT
Straxus is a Leader, Sideways is a Deluxe.Overcracker wrote:Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
Posted by First-Aid on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:31pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
I can't see it, especially if you consider the chest design to the guy. Also, Sideways was a short, stout character and figure while this Jhiaxus mold seems more designed for taller, lanky bots. Not sure it would be a good fit.
EDIT: I read Straxxus as Jhiaxus. Derp.
Posted by Overcracker on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:41pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
I can't see it, especially if you consider the chest design to the guy. Also, Sideways was a short, stout character and figure while this Jhiaxus mold seems more designed for taller, lanky bots. Not sure it would be a good fit.
Sideways was tall and lanky. I thin you are picturing someone else.


The chest can be retooled to match Straxxus better.
He's very much the same general idea as Straxxus: flying thing with a large gun on top.
Ahh, did not realize Sideways was a deluxe. and Straxus was a Leader. Well so much for my idea.
Posted by Sabrblade on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:43pm CDT
Straxus is a Leader, Sideways is a Deluxe.Overcracker wrote:First-Aid wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
I can't see it, especially if you consider the chest design to the guy. Also, Sideways was a short, stout character and figure while this Jhiaxus mold seems more designed for taller, lanky bots. Not sure it would be a good fit.
Sideways was tall and lanky. I thin you are picturing someone else.
The chest can be retooled to match Straxxus better.
He's very much the same general idea as Straxxus: flying thing with a large gun on top.
Posted by Overcracker on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Straxus is a Leader, Sideways is a Deluxe.Overcracker wrote:First-Aid wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
I can't see it, especially if you consider the chest design to the guy. Also, Sideways was a short, stout character and figure while this Jhiaxus mold seems more designed for taller, lanky bots. Not sure it would be a good fit.
Sideways was tall and lanky. I thin you are picturing someone else.
The chest can be retooled to match Straxxus better.
He's very much the same general idea as Straxxus: flying thing with a large gun on top.
Yeah, I saw it, after I posted. Relax.
Ignore the suggestion then sheesh.
Posted by First-Aid on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:51pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Straxus is a Leader, Sideways is a Deluxe.Overcracker wrote:First-Aid wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
I can't see it, especially if you consider the chest design to the guy. Also, Sideways was a short, stout character and figure while this Jhiaxus mold seems more designed for taller, lanky bots. Not sure it would be a good fit.
Sideways was tall and lanky. I thin you are picturing someone else.
The chest can be retooled to match Straxxus better.
He's very much the same general idea as Straxxus: flying thing with a large gun on top.
Yeah, I saw it, after I posted. Relax.
Ignore the suggestion then sheesh.
I'll sit an commiserate with you. I apparently also have reading issues...see my edit above.

Posted by Till-all-R1 on April 25th, 2024 @ 12:57pm CDT
Nothing of interest to me here, Vector Prime looks alright but not enough to warrant $35.
Posted by Overcracker on April 25th, 2024 @ 1:02pm CDT
Legacy United R.I.D SideBurn - Amazon.com
Legacy United Cybertron Hot Shot - Amazon.com
Legacy United Cybertron Vector Prime - Amazon.com
Posted by blackeyedprime on April 25th, 2024 @ 2:05pm CDT
Straxus is a Leader, Sideways is a Deluxe.[/quote]Sabrblade wrote:
Leaders can be deluxes...with GUFF

Posted by Overcracker on April 25th, 2024 @ 2:31pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:
I'll sit an commiserate with you. I apparently also have reading issues...see my edit above.

Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 25th, 2024 @ 2:51pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on April 25th, 2024 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 25th, 2024 @ 4:48pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Magneous looks like cocaine, hopefully no one tries to crush him up.
Hot Shot is a nice sided deluxe, good and big!
Vector Prime surprised me with how good he looks. not perfect mind you, but I wasn't expecting that retool, and he looks pretty decent.
*sniff, sniff* What was that?
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on April 25th, 2024 @ 6:27pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Magneous looks like cocaine, hopefully no one tries to crush him up.
Hot Shot is a nice sided deluxe, good and big!
Vector Prime surprised me with how good he looks. not perfect mind you, but I wasn't expecting that retool, and he looks pretty decent.
*sniff, sniff* What was that?
Hmmm, maybe that's why he sold out before the other 2 deluxes on Pulse.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on April 26th, 2024 @ 12:23am CDT
First-Aid wrote:Overcracker wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Straxus is a Leader, Sideways is a Deluxe.Overcracker wrote:First-Aid wrote:Overcracker wrote:
Also, Just had a thought....
Cybertron Sideways (coming in a Walmart capsule next year) from Straxxus? Or Vice-versa?
I can't see it, especially if you consider the chest design to the guy. Also, Sideways was a short, stout character and figure while this Jhiaxus mold seems more designed for taller, lanky bots. Not sure it would be a good fit.
Sideways was tall and lanky. I thin you are picturing someone else.
The chest can be retooled to match Straxxus better.
He's very much the same general idea as Straxxus: flying thing with a large gun on top.
Yeah, I saw it, after I posted. Relax.
Ignore the suggestion then sheesh.
I'll sit an commiserate with you. I apparently also have reading issues...see my edit above.
Okay, not sure who corrected what, but I'll meet someone errrm...one quarter of the way and agree that I always loosely associate Cybertron Sideways/Noisemaze with Jhiaxus in that he looks like he should be repainted into one of the Liege Centruro's Cybertronian flunkies. Is it possible the designer actually based him on some of Manny Galan's generics in addition to whatever shuttle design his alt is supposed to be?
That green and white redeco is the one of the few possible products of all these Cybertron 20th anniversary updates that I'd buy the $&*%! out of!
Posted by Sowndwave76 on April 26th, 2024 @ 8:04pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on April 26th, 2024 @ 8:18pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Primal on April 27th, 2024 @ 1:07am CDT
Nucleous looks so close to something I would like, but again, the fact that he is actually straight-up made of rocks ruins it for me. If he was just a cool TF moon buggy with a club made of rockets and that same color scheme and head design, absolutely, but as it is, can't get past the weirdness.
Vector Prime looked a little rough to me in the render, but the in-hand look at him in the stream sold me, that metallic paint looks so good. If his arms had been retooled to have his armguards, he would basically be perfect (and/or if he had Safeguard, but honestly I was expecting him not to have him at this rate), but as-is I'm still on board.
Straxus should be an absolute pickup, barring any weird unforseen decisions, super happy to have him confirmed out of nowhere.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 27th, 2024 @ 2:16am CDT