First Look at Transformers Legacy Commander Class Motormaster and More

Yeah...where the hell are the cut out windows for Blitzwing and Motormaster???

william-james88 wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I picked up Bulkhead last night and I was surprised that all the Bulkhead figures and the Buzz Silversteaks had NO plastic in their cut out windows!

I was out on this one but I wish the nimrod that decided this can get a nice slap to the back of their gourd. Like people are NOT going to reach in now and fiddle and touch these figures with no doubt unclean fingers ...I call BS 'nuff said!

This is going to be the new standard. I don't have the same concern, but you may want to start ordering online or regularly disinfecting toys with light cleaning. If it's any consolation, handling toys is a relatively low-risk illness vector compared to food or airborne viruses.

And it's not like it's totally new; Cyberverse has been doing that for the larger toys, and Rescue Bots are also out in the open air. They do say exposure helps with building immunity and prevent allergies

Yeah well its a lame ass standard....I'm looking at you / .

It's just that great feeling that you bought something new....MISP knowing that you and only you had first touch besides those at the factory. Then the Eggheads go and pull this new standard with other peoples finger prints all over the exposed figure damnation!!!

So just buy leaders and commanders then, show your dislike by not buying the others.

Nah I will buy them of course but I don't have to like this!

Nemesis Destron wrote:Yeah...where the hell are the cut out windows for Blitzwing and Motormaster???

When Legacy was first revealed they announced that Leaders wouldn't have package windows anymore. And Commanders never had them in the first place

I tried converting my Legacy Skids to car mode again, trying to follow some advice I read here, but I still couldn't get the roof to tab in properly in the back. It might just be a small tolerance issue on a tab or in a slot on my copy. I'm not going to sweat it, though, and certainly am not going to force it into place. All of that transparent plastic is scary enough to be manipulating for the steps that do tab together correctly.

Seriously, though, I think Skids came out quite well, despite some of the flaws, whether objective or subjective, associated with the figure. Given how much of the car shell is transparent plastic, there is a ton of paint lavished on the figure. The transformation is pretty simple, but has some nice surprises, like compacting the hips to get him into car mode. Getting the front wheels and robot arms in place for car mode can be a little fiddly, but once you get everything situated correctly, the arms make a nice satisfying "click" into place that you wouldn't have guessed it would. It's nice to have a Generations style G1 Skids at last. The Thrilling 30 figure was great for its time, but the "Classics" era of modernized updates has come and gone.

It's interesting how we got two different, yet very much media-blended versions of Skids in the past year. The Masterpiece version was very accurate to the real-world Honda City in vehicle mode, but blended some toy details into a mostly cartoon-accurate color layout. Now we have a G1 Generations styled Skids in Legacy that has a more cartoon accurate car mode, but with a robot mode that prefers different toy specific deco choices and details blended with an otherwise very faithful recreation of the cartoon character model.

From what I can see, looks like they nailed Motormaster's alt mode. Looks perfect. I won't care if the cab becomes the robot like in Combiner Wars, as long as it looks like it should, fake parts or not. Just don't make it obvious like they did with Blitzwing.

I'm gonna guess that Motormaster will be just like Rodimus was, a voyager robot plus the trailer add up to the commander figure, except the trailer will be actually worth the extra money this time around. Can't wait to see if they also got Menasor right, or at least right-enough.

And I wonder if Hasbro truly homages the G1 figure and this base mode of the trailer can be hooked up to Titan Trypticon much like the G1 figures did. And if so, does that mean we will be getting a new Onslaught/Bruticus down the line? We should.

So if the packaging art is anything to go by, the jet cockpit jutting really far out of the front of Blitzwing's tank mode wasn't a mistransformation. What a shame, I mean I know it's cartoon accurate but it still doesn't look very good. That being said I'll probably still pick one up. I'm still undecided on the Stunticons, but it looks like Motormaster has turned out well enough, at least in truck mode.

Interesting choice to only put truck mode on the front of the box, no sign or bot mode or even anything indicating it combines. Previous Commanders all had bot mode on the front and Rodimus had both modes (SG Jetfire was the exception that had a full window box). Also interesting that I can only see three of the cars on the front, Dragstrip and Wildrider on the bottom, Breakdown at the top. Cant' seem to spot Deadend.

Anyway, it looks promising.

Emerje

I would want these Legacy Stunticons, simply to replace the CW versions. CW Menasor was a mess of disproportionate floppy-ness. I'm reasonably confident that the Legacy Menasor will turn out much better. I think it will be mostly the truck trailer turning into the Menasor skeleton with the other figures plugging into it, but that's fine with me. After all - that is how it looked in the G1 cartoon. And anything would be an improvement over that silly CW Menasor pelvis with it's flimsy codpiece...

I will admit, even if won't be perfect, that truck mode does look rather nice compared to CW Motormaster... I really do need to see the bot mode. Even if the combined mode will just be as boring as I expect it to be, I'd be more than happy if all the individual bots were good. So far I'm liking Drag Strip a lot, so that at least seems to be happening!

Rodimus Prime wrote:From what I can see, looks like they nailed Motormaster's alt mode. Looks perfect. I won't care if the cab becomes the robot like in Combiner Wars, as long as it looks like it should, fake parts or not. Just don't make it obvious like they did with Blitzwing.

I'm gonna guess that Motormaster will be just like Rodimus was, a voyager robot plus the trailer add up to the commander figure, except the trailer will be actually worth the extra money this time around. Can't wait to see if they also got Menasor right, or at least right-enough.

And I wonder if Hasbro truly homages the G1 figure and this base mode of the trailer can be hooked up to Titan Trypticon much like the G1 figures did. And if so, does that mean we will be getting a new Onslaught/Bruticus down the line? We should.

I agree with you on both points. It shouldn't be too difficult to get the cab to transform so his robot mode looks like his cartoon counterpart. And as I've said before, a show-accurate Bruticus would be nice.

DeathReviews wrote:I would want these Legacy Stunticons, simply to replace the CW versions. CW Menasor was a mess of disproportionate floppy-ness. I'm reasonably confident that the Legacy Menasor will turn out much better. I think it will be mostly the truck trailer turning into the Menasor skeleton with the other figures plugging into it, but that's fine with me. After all - that is how it looked in the G1 cartoon. And anything would be an improvement over that silly CW Menasor pelvis with it's flimsy codpiece...

Testify dude...I too had to pass up on the CW Stunticons cuz in the end they were just hot garbage...'nuff said!

Well at least motormaster looks worth half retail sugested price unlike rodimus. Dragstrips vehicle mode was pretty bad so splitting it and sticking it somewhere isn't going to look that good either. For me Menasor might have to be posed hiding one of his arms.

Emerje wrote:Interesting choice to only put truck mode on the front of the box, no sign or bot mode or even anything indicating it combines. Previous Commanders all had bot mode on the front and Rodimus had both modes (SG Jetfire was the exception that had a full window box).

To be fair, while it may not be consistent with the other Commanders from the past lines, it is in line with most of Legacy so far, since every Legacy box we've seen except the Leaders has had only the alt mode on the front of the box and then the bot mode on the left side of the box.

blackeyedprime wrote:Well at least motormaster looks worth half retail sugested price unlike rodimus. Dragstrips vehicle mode was pretty bad so splitting it and sticking it somewhere isn't going to look that good either. For me Menasor might have to be posed hiding one of his arms.

I couldn't possibly disagree with you any more. Dragstrip looks incredible in vehicle mode, and I'm very much welcoming the return to cartoon accurate Stunticons. If they follow it up with the Aerialbots next, I would be beyond ecstatic. I remember getting the G1 Aerialbots giftset as a kid, and I always wished it looked more like the cartoon. I skipped buying the CW Stunticons (though I did get the Aerialbots), and I'm so glad I did. Legacy Dragstrip is nearly perfect, and Motormaster's truck mode is amazing looking as well!

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:Interesting choice to only put truck mode on the front of the box, no sign or bot mode or even anything indicating it combines. Previous Commanders all had bot mode on the front and Rodimus had both modes (SG Jetfire was the exception that had a full window box).

To be fair, while it may not be consistent with the other Commanders from the past lines, it is in line with most of Legacy so far, since every Legacy box we've seen except the Leaders has had only the alt mode on the front of the box and then the bot mode on the left side of the box.

Right, but the window is why they can get away with that and why the Leaders feature the bot mode up front. I'm very curious what they put on the other sides of the box.

Emerje

daedalus25 wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Well at least motormaster looks worth half retail sugested price unlike rodimus. Dragstrips vehicle mode was pretty bad so splitting it and sticking it somewhere isn't going to look that good either. For me Menasor might have to be posed hiding one of his arms.

I couldn't possibly disagree with you any more. Dragstrip looks incredible in vehicle mode, and I'm very much welcoming the return to cartoon accurate Stunticons. If they follow it up with the Aerialbots next, I would be beyond ecstatic. I remember getting the G1 Aerialbots giftset as a kid, and I always wished it looked more like the cartoon. I skipped buying the CW Stunticons (though I did get the Aerialbots), and I'm so glad I did. Legacy Dragstrip is nearly perfect, and Motormaster's truck mode is amazing looking as well!

I thought the Aerialbots were good, the only thing subpar was Silverbolts's jet mode. Unlike Motormaster who suffered from the terrible torso, the Silverbolt mold actually served that purpose well. So if we do get new Aerialbots, I'd be hard-pressed to buy them, unless everything about them is top-notch. The CW Aerialbots turned out well and I own the set.

Chefatron put up a review of a Legacy Terrorsaur with toy accurate colors

Courtesy of Chefatron:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Chefatron put up a review of a Legacy Terrorsaur with toy accurate colors

That one's supposed to release through Buzzworthy like Silverstreak is, according to the store listing we have, so I'm gonna go drop pics in that thread.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Courtesy of Chefatron:

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Razorbeast88 wrote:Chefatron put up a review of a Legacy Terrorsaur with toy accurate colors

That one's supposed to release through Buzzworthy like Silverstreak is, according to the store listing we have, so I'm gonna go drop pics in that thread.

Kewlllll

Not sure if this has been mentioned, or seen yet, but via KoreanNet, here are some images of Legacy Blitzwing's box

transformers_va wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned, or seen yet, but via KoreanNet, here are some images of Legacy Blitzwing's box

Seen in the same news post as the Motormaster box pics.

Sabrblade wrote:Seen in the same news post as the Motormaster box pics.

Cool, thank you! I missed that when I read that article yesterday

We have news that Transformers Legacy core wave 1 toys have been found at US retail. The wave consists of Hot Rod, Iguanus and Skywarp. TF fan PurpleStuf found this wave at Target in Ohio.

If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

This sighting was originally posted here.

Thanks to a post on the Cybertron Philippines Facebook page, we now know that Legacy Buzzsaw, Nightprowler and Sandstorm are now available in the Philippines. The sighting was made at the Toy Kingdom store in the SM Megamall. This shows us that these toys are ready for international distribution and can hit the US anytime even though the release date on Pulse is December of this year.

The Transformers Legacy line is definitely aiming to be more than just G1. We got a G2 Optimus in the wave 1 leader class and now we have a G2 Megatron in the wave 2 core class. It is just a redeco of the G1 styled Megatron mold we got in Kingdom so while the deco is G2 inspired, the robot mode does not resemble the G2 body. We do have a G2 logo though, which is more than we can say for many G2 redecos from Hasbro.

These in hand images are from a review Chefatron uploaded to youtube. This Megatron will be released alongside a new Shockwave mold and a repack of core class Iguanus and Optimus Prime.

I guess this is to contrast with the original G2 Megatron which towered over G2 Prime ( which the body itself was just the OG Prime)

o.supreme wrote:I guess this is to contrast with the original G2 Megatron which towered over G2 Prime ( which the body itself was just the OG Prime)

I don't think they thought past just having a redeco of another tank megatron.

CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Sentinel_Primal wrote:CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Whoo-hoo! Keep em comin'! That Wildrider looks fantastic!

I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Whoo-hoo! Keep em comin'! That Wildrider looks fantastic!

I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

Oh, I want new Stunticons. I just want ones that actually combine.

Lore Keeper wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:CBR just showed off product shots of Wildrider. Gotta be honest, I'm liking him so far. Would have preferred a toy accurate head, but as it is, the head isn't too terrible. Definitely loving the vehicle mode though. I really hope that we get a G2 set of Stunticons

Whoo-hoo! Keep em comin'! That Wildrider looks fantastic!

I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

Oh, I want new Stunticons. I just want ones that actually combine.

I think it's going to work out just fine, but I'll reserve judgement on that front.

Oh hey that CBR article says that Wild Rider and Blitzwing are getting revealed tomorrow.

...oH SHOOT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING WAVE 2 TOMORROW

Oh boy! Reveals of two figures we've already seen.

Sabrblade wrote:Oh boy! Reveals of two figures we've already seen.

We hadn't seen Wildrider yet

Autobot N wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh boy! Reveals of two figures we've already seen.

We hadn't seen Wildrider yet

We have now, so tomorrow he won't be new.

Sabrblade wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh boy! Reveals of two figures we've already seen.

We hadn't seen Wildrider yet

We have now, so tomorrow he won't be new.

That's...terrible. Just terrible.

Anyway, the livestream is supposed to be an hour, so there'll be more than just these two revealed (even if that ultimately means 'more figures we've already seen.')

Also, I tried the QR codes on these, and even though they do take you to Transformers.com, they've not yet added the pages.

sol magnus wrote:Anyway, the livestream is supposed to be an hour...

Well technically the TF one starts at 11 EDT, the PR one starts at 12 EDT. I predict it will be closer to 40 minutes, because you know they have to "clear the room" to get ready for the next panel .


I hope all of Legacy wave 2 is revealed and we DO get to see something not leaked by a press website before tomorrow morning, but we shall see. I wouldn't be shocked if all we got was maybe 3 or 4 toys, and the rest is about Mobile Games, other licensed merch etc... nobody cares about, but Hasbro got paid to advertise them, so they will.

I'm not a Stunticons guy but he looks fantastic! Interesting that the promo material for Blitzwing in the CBR piece says nothing about his extra hands...

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

If all of wave 2 is revealed tomorrow, we still have core class shockwave, Tarantulas, Elita 1, Jhiaxus, and Knockout to look forward to. And I suppose we'll see what they do with Soundwave

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.

I have little doubt that this new Legacy Menasor will be a vast improvement over UW/CW, but I just have to resist out of principal. I am perfectly ok with the UW version I have, I do not need another.

..interesting thing I noticed: Wild Rider seems to have the detailing on his arms lifted wholesale from his CW figure.

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

The problem is that Lore Keeper (and I, and a number of others around here) want basically a new CW-style Menasor so the Stunticon cars actually form the limbs, just with better engineering, not Sunbow-accurate "Menasor" (read: Big Motormaster with cars superglued on his limbs), and all the evidence thus far points to this "combiner" being that second option.

o.supreme wrote:

RotorstormNZ wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:I just want ones that actually combine.

Well the packaging does say "2 of 5 MENASOR" so I'd say that's a given!

Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.

I have little doubt that this new Legacy Menasor will be a vast improvement over UW/CW, but I just have to resist out of principal. I am perfectly ok with the UW version I have, I do not need another.

I really want a UW Superion set, but I'm gunshy because of these new Stunticons, so I feel you there.

Also, hey, they got the "Wildrider" name back by adding a space in the middle of it as "Wild Rider".

The last few Wildrider toys from Hasbro were instead named "Brake-Neck".

I think this Wildrider looks very good. And both modes, too.
Imo he looks better than Dragstrip (relatively speaking).
And yeah that's more of a backpack and kibble than I would've liked, but still overall this is a good sign for the rest of the group.

As I said with Blitzwing, this figure's proportions look great; I just looked at some CW and UW Wildrider images, and while those versions were fine, those lower legs were pretty stumpy.
I also really dig the retro-esque car mode better than the CW version's.

This figure alone is sparking a bit of encouragement for me in that this set may in fact be worth the wait and money.

o.supreme wrote:I have little doubt that this new Legacy Menasor will be a vast improvement over UW/CW, but I just have to resist out of principal. I am perfectly ok with the UW version I have, I do not need another.

I'm considering displaying my UW set as individuals with my other Decepticons...

The big potential dilemma will be if I end up liking all 5 Stunticons but not Menasor.

I think I'll just stick with the Unite Warriors Stunticons. It's not about which is better or worse. I just don't want to spend money on a new one.

I also still like the Scramble City aspect CW has, even if I never use it.

I think these guys will wind up being better than the older ones in every way.

But if they do Devestator they'll have my attention.

Ahead of Tuesday, CBR is giving us a preview of the toy's we'll see tomorrow. Through them, Hasbro has unveiled Legacy deluxe Wild Rider and leader Blitzwing. Since they are a preview for tomorrow that means there is a really good chance we will see the rest of Legacy's second wave. The Blitzwing photos further show us that there was little to no mistransformation going on in the photos we saw earlier and the the blurb does confirm what we all know, his modes are based on the cartoon. Of course, all this may be obvious to some, but many are still struggling with the paradigm shift, mainly because Hasbro never made it clear for all and left it more for us to figure it out as they kept releasing product.

While many have called this generations line "mini mps", Hasbro designers are now using that term openly when presenting and we are seeing what that truly means. Remember, the MP line does not have a strict correlation between price and size, where MP Bumblebee and MP Skids are similarly priced while one is much smaller than the other (one being deluxe sized and the other being voyager sized) and two bots of the same size can have a price difference of over one hundred dollars. None of us question that, but bringing that same logic into a toyline with defined price points, like the generations line, means that toy that have the same height could (and do) end up at different price points. Plus you add the notion of a unified scale, like the MP line, and more focus on animation accuracy than any generations line in the past. Blitzwing is an emblem of this paradigm shift where he truly is a mini MP in that sense. We would not have questioned such slavish G1 accuracy to the point of detriment (according to some) on an MP figure and Hasbro is applying that same logic to this generations version.

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Hasbro has provided CBR with an exclusive first look at the Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider and the Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing figures ahead of their wide reveal tomorrow, Tuesday, April 12. The Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider retails for $24.99 USD, while the Leader Blitzwing retails for $55.99. Both figures are due for release this July and will be available for pre-order on Hasbro Pulse and other retailers starting April 12 at 1 p.m. EST.

Transformers: Generations Legacy Deluxe Decepticon Wild Rider

(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $24.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 5.5-inch DELUXE DECEPTICON WILD RIDER robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. WILD RIDER lives up to his name. He’s a bit of a loose cannon. When he hits the road, he drives to destroy!
WILD RIDER action figure converts from robot to sports car mode in 17 steps and comes with 2 Energon blaster accessories. The DECEPTICON WILD RIDER toy also combines as the MENASOR figure’s left leg. Collect other TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY combiner figures to form MENASOR (each sold separately, subject to availability)!
Transformers: Generations Legacy Leader Blitzwing

(Ages 8 and Up / Approx. Retail Price: $55.99 / Available: July 2022)
This TRANSFORMERS: LEGACY 7-inch LEADER BLITZWING robot toy is inspired by the animated series, The Transformers, updated with a Generations-style design. BLITZWING terrorizes his opponents by switching between his three modes in battle, laughing all the while! The triple changer action figure converts from robot to jet mode in 32 steps and from robot to tank mode in 41 steps. BLITZWING also comes with a sword, 2 blaster accessories and features a rotating turret in tank mode

Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I think this Wildrider looks very good. And both modes, too.
Imo he looks better than Dragstrip (relatively speaking).

I agree

o.supreme wrote:Unfortunately the term has been convoluted recently in the minds of some fans. whether all components are physically touching each other, or combined via a frame. To me it makes no difference, but to some it does.

Maybe it's because people grew up at different times with differnet toys. For anyone who's a fan of the G1 Devastator toy, or the smaller train combiners, frames are just as integral to the idea of a combiner toy. But for those who got into it with Combiner Wars, it might be different.
I'm a power rangers fan so I'm even fine with partsforming. I just like the idea of building a behemoth.

sol magnus wrote:I fully expect to be vindicated by all the people yelling 'eh, I don't want the new Stunticons cuz reasons'.

Maybe the wise thing then would be to buy lots of Dragstrips as a short term investment.

Munkky wrote:Wildrider does look nice, I'm still not 100% sold on the Stunticons, but they're shaping up to be at least a bit better than the Combiner Wars ones. The more I see of Blitzwing the less I feel like getting one, he's now at the very bottom of my maybe pile. Here's hoping we see the whole of Wave 2 tomorrow, or at least a decent chunk of it.

I gotta say, that jet mode looks really unapealing in Hasbro's professional photography.