First Sign of a Possible Transformers Studio Series 2007 Movie Decepticon 5-Pack Coming

I mean, assuming it's to match the Autobots from the first movie, we can probably guess by process of elimination, there was only 8 Decepticons. Frenzy doesn't even have an SS figure yet, Blackout is unlikely because he's a leader class, and Scorponok was an accessory for Blackout.

So would assume it's Megatron, Starscream, Brawl, Bonecrusher and Barricade. Pricing might be weird compared to the Autobot pack (since you're talking about 4 voyagers and a deluxe, as opposed to the Autobot's 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes), but its possible they offset the price somehow with less paint apps, less accessories compared to the original releases, etc.

If they AREN'T trying to match the first movie, but try to match the same sizes, could be more interesting. Megatron and Starscream are almost guarantees as the voyagers, so then it just becomes a question of who the deluxes are. Maybe Soundwave, Barricade and Sideways?

It doesn't really interest me personally, but it does make me extremely excited at the prospect of potential future multi-packs... Maybe an Animated Autobot and Decepticon multi-pack like these digibashes?

https://twitter.com/CookieBoy101/status ... 8cre2s0EkA
https://twitter.com/CookieBoy101/status ... 8cre2s0EkA

I'd buy them in an instant... Maybe they could even do a Unicron Trilogy Autobot and Decepticon 5-pack?

Interesting listing, it has my interest. Though i wonder what they would do for the backdrop, since at most only 4 of the movie cons were ever together in 1 location during the movie.

I finished my paint work on SS DOTM Bumblebee! Very excited to finally have this guy painted up, this is my favorite design for Bee!

I added a few new DOTM details that the original was missing, like the collar pieces and the new yellow pieces that sit on the shoulders. Also painted the silver trim around the taillights, I really like how that turned out. As always, if you want to see more you can check out my customs page!






As for my thoughts on the figure as a whole, the retooling they did was pretty incredible. The only things carried over from SS-49/74 in alt mode were the doors and windshield/roof pieces. I love that they even added the new exhaust pipes! Bot mode retooling is good too, I really like how the new chest piece was done. The biggest issue with the figure is that it's pretty loose right out of the box, not just the ball joints but the whole door wing/shoulder wheel assembly as well. The paint fixed that all up, but it is a little weird since that isn't a problem I've had with the others I've had of this mold. They also reverted to the brighter rally yellow instead of SS-74's more accurate orange-yellow for some reason, but I was also able to (kinda) fix that. Besides that though, this is a great retool to the already phenomenal SS-49 mold and I'm so glad to finally have a Studio Series DOTM Bee in my collection!

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:I finished my paint work on SS DOTM Bumblebee! Very excited to finally have this guy painted up, this is my favorite design for Bee!

I added a few new DOTM details that the original was missing, like the collar pieces and the new yellow pieces that sit on the shoulders. Also painted the silver trim around the taillights, I really like how that turned out. As always, if you want to see more you can check out my customs page!

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As for my thoughts on the figure as a whole, the retooling they did was pretty incredible. The only things carried over from SS-49/74 in alt mode were the doors and windshield/roof pieces. I love that they even added the new exhaust pipes! Bot mode retooling is good too, I really like how the new chest piece was done. The biggest issue with the figure is that it's pretty loose right out of the box, not just the ball joints but the whole door wing/shoulder wheel assembly as well. The paint fixed that all up, but it is a little weird since that isn't a problem I've had with the others I've had of this mold. They also reverted to the brighter rally yellow instead of SS-74's more accurate orange-yellow for some reason, but I was also able to (kinda) fix that. Besides that though, this is a great retool to the already phenomenal SS-49 mold and I'm so glad to finally have a Studio Series DOTM Bee in my collection!

Very well done! I am eager for Amazon to ship my DotM Bee!

Yeah, not very interested in any of these multi-packs. Call me when it's an Infernocus that isn't one member short and 4/5ths of retools from a completely different line.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Very well done! I am eager for Amazon to ship my DotM Bee!

Thank you, hopefully Amazon sends yours soon! Hoping they get around to sending Sideways soon!

I've started work on Galvatron now and I'm liking it a lot more than I thought I would! The feet sticking out in alt mode are really rough, but bot mode is awesome!

MaximalNui wrote:Yeah, not very interested in any of these multi-packs. Call me when it's an Infernocus that isn't one member short and 4/5ths of retools from a completely different line.

I have been championing for this for a while, still holding out hope for a good Infernocus

So I found Sideways last week and, well, he's been a disappointment so far.

Dear Hasbro,
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT WITH BALL JOINT ANKLES!!!!!!

I prefer my figures to be able to stand. Plus using ball joints for all the major bot joints (ankles, hips, elbows and shoulders) I'm sure is not going to age well. The transformation is interesting, but a bit fiddly to get everything in place.

We'll see if my feelings on him improve after a few more transformations (and some necessary floor polish).

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Dear Hasbro,
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT WITH BALL JOINT ANKLES!!!!!!

I just got some MP-01 Optimus Prime flashbacks.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP IT WITH BALL JOINT ANKLES!!!!!!

Sadly, that is the only way several bayverse figures have gotten ankles. They get jipped on the ankles a lot

My BBM Ironhide and DotM Bee arrived finally last night, so now I only need Sideways to be up to date on SS figures.

Ironhide is a bit weak. I like the mold, and Ratchet was pretty good, but the arms sort of frustrate me, and Ironhide's legs are pretty noodly in several places. Not Selects Lift Ticket bad by any means, but it is loose enough to cause posing problems. I like the mold more in red though.

Bee is very solid. I really liked this mold when they created it for 07 Bee, and each remold has been solid as well. I like the new DotM tooling, even if I wish he had a little bit more tooling and paint. He is nice, and definitely the winner of the haul for me.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Bee is very solid. I really liked this mold when they created it for 07 Bee, and each remold has been solid as well. I like the new DotM tooling, even if I wish he had a little bit more tooling and paint. He is nice, and definitely the winner of the haul for me.

Very nice, glad you were able to get Bee!

PVP Review for SS TLK Hot Rod is up, it looks awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMfQIieewDo&t=27s

The chest transformation has some pretty crazy engineering, can't wait to get this figure!

Despite this being my 3rd of the mold, I am still getting a good kick out of this Bumblebee mold. They did a pretty dang good job on it, and I am greatly enjoying it. DotM is my favorite Transformers movie too, so it feels really fun to have that movie's tooling. Bee is fun to have. Only downside is he has a smidge of that issue ER Sunstreaker had with his yellows and pictures with certain lighting, bit it's a bit less egregious than Sunstreaker thanks to where it ends up in robot mode.

I got Sideways last weekend. I'll get the grips out the way first, his ankle ball joints are mad loose, an easy fix for the initiated but for a normie it might be frustrating. Besides that, he's certainly one of the better movie car formers I've purchased/handled. Blaster arm is rad and hooks on smoothly, Transformation is neat and not too big a hassle, he does tab togather good and I like how much the car disappears or spreads out in robot mode. Plus he is one of the top five best rolling movie cars I have Of course it might just be my luck with this copy but I'd recommend em

I'll be honest, I like the initial TLK Hot Rod we got. I thought it was one of the better examples of a retool we had ever had (along with that voyager TAV Grimlock) and I thought the alt mode was excellent. However, after seeing the images comparing it to the new Studio Series toy we will be getting, it's easy to see how this one is far more accurate to the character model, especially with the torso. While this is the third deluxe TLK Hot Rod toy we get, it is the first to have a fully dedicated mold and it shows. We also get comparisons between car modes though the differences there aren't as drastic.

Let us know if you'll be getting the new one and what you think. The review is from Prime vs Prime and the toy was orderable early on Shopee.

That looks much nicer than the original.

As always, if this is not the official version, it would be prudent to wait for actual retail versions being reviewed by legit YouTubers before we jump to any conclusions regarding any possible faults or defects in this mold. For all we know, the retail versions might differ considerably to ones by those giving us peegey tips, however "helpful" they may seem. This might even be true if the unboxed versions are BETTER than the originals, and we get our hopes up.

primalxconvoy wrote:As always, if this is not the official version, it would be prudent to wait for actual retail versions being reviewed by legit YouTubers before we jump to any conclusions regarding any possible faults or defects in this mold. For all we know, the retail versions might differ considerably to ones by those giving us peegey tips, however "helpful" they may seem. This might even be true if the unboxed versions are BETTER than the originals, and we get our hopes up.

Don't these usually come right off the assembly line? Unless they have Hasbro's serial numbers printed directly on them they're probably final products. Do you have any examples of reviewed figures being different from the retail release (aside from blemishes and broken parts)?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:As always, if this is not the official version, it would be prudent to wait for actual retail versions being reviewed by legit YouTubers before we jump to any conclusions regarding any possible faults or defects in this mold. For all we know, the retail versions might differ considerably to ones by those giving us peegey tips, however "helpful" they may seem. This might even be true if the unboxed versions are BETTER than the originals, and we get our hopes up.

Don't these usually come right off the assembly line? Unless they have Hasbro's serial numbers printed directly on them they're probably final products. Do you have any examples of reviewed figures being different from the retail release (aside from blemishes and broken parts)?

Emerje

With 3P products, whenever they're reviewed, they're often accompanied by disclosures that they're pre-production samples (even if they're close to the final product or end up being exactly the same as the final product). This is how more honest YouTubers give us a look at such toys, while also giving us enough info to make more informed decisions prior to purchasing. In some cases, they even state that the companies are aware of certain faults and will (or already have) rectified them.

From personal experience, I've found some of the faults mentioned by those that have watched such unripe product reviews, don't always turn up in the Takara-Tomy versions, so I'm a little sceptical. That's why I usually only watch legit YouTube videos, as any faults mentioned in them might be more widespread.

I'm more interested in the facts, rather than "reviews" akin to fortune telling:

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And here's PvP's review for Crosshairs. Important to note is that his copy is missing the spoiler, which we know the figure will include based on prior renders and in-hand pics from Hasbro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25p8PqD8T88

Crosshairs definitely isn't as much of a win as Hot Rod, but the molded detail is pretty impressive.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:And here's CvC's review for Crosshairs. Important to note is that his copy is missing the spoiler, which we know the figure will include based on prior renders and in-hand pics from Hasbro.

Crosshairs definitely isn't as much of a win as Hot Rod, but the molded detail is pretty impressive.

Well, this "kind-of" highlights my point, although not exactly. The copy in this "review" (sic) isn't the same as the proposed/actual retail version, for better or for worse.

primalxconvoy wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:And here's CvC's review for Crosshairs. Important to note is that his copy is missing the spoiler, which we know the figure will include based on prior renders and in-hand pics from Hasbro.

Crosshairs definitely isn't as much of a win as Hot Rod, but the molded detail is pretty impressive.

Well, this "kind-of" highlights my point, although not exactly. The copy in this "review" (sic) isn't the same as the proposed/actual retail version, for better or for worse.

Your anti PvP "activism is very, very annoying.

But ironically, you're very, very right on that point.

The live action movie Crosshairs does not have a design that translates well to toys. His whole design gimmick is that the car body becomes a flowing trench coat. The previous attempts (both in AOE and TLK) went all in on the trenchcoat design, with the idea of it wrapping around his sides as it does in the film. There were clearly some sacrifices to make that happen with innacuracies in the top half of the toy. The new Studio Series version aims more to look like the sleek character model and drops the trenchcoat gimmick for the most part. The toy attempts to keep the look when facing dead on but does not retain the dual functonality of the car body as previous toys have. That does of course liberate the designers in other aspects as you will see below when comparing to the previous version. People seem torn on this with there being pros and cons to both attempts at bringing this character to toy form. You'll let us know where you land.

The images come from a review by PrimevsPrime. All shots below are of the robot mode because the car mode in the video is incomplete and we would rather not confuse you with it. You can see the original review here.

More peachy tips from Seibertron, eh?

Anyway, saying the character "does not have a design that translates well to toys" is inaccurate. A more competent use of lexis would be "hasn't translated well (so far)", if one can accept it's more to do with subjective opinion than established fact. Still, the OP tried, I suppose, so there's that?

Poor ol' Crosshairs, has enough kibble to rival that of Arcee.
I do really like the upper body and colours of the Studio Series version, but the trenchcoat looks nicer on the previous toy. I might still pick it up if there's better ways to handle the kibble (official or not, à la Sentinel Prime's cape) because I still otherwise like the rest of it.

Old figure looks better to me, that side view alone is enough to ensure it stays on the store pegs even at discount for me. The big hinges for the flaps is another. The head/face definitely looks more baynus for whatever that is worth.


Realistically if the vehicle mode is incomplete, then so is the bot mode. Might be a wait and see for better photos but I'm liking the colors and definition better on the old figure anyhoos.

Well the paint and face look better. But man those bots have horrible designs of TF 4. They are just big dudes in space armor who can teleport in a vehicle mode.

If the robot mode doesn't resemble a vehicle at all, then you know what it is and can only be. A shellformer. Galvatron practically is a shellformer because his robot mode is just a sci fi space robot, not a Transformer.

I think I'll continue to hunt for the first version of Crosshairs since it has some feely value.

noctorro wrote:Well the paint and face look better. But man those bots have horrible designs of TF 4. They are just big dudes in space armor who can teleport in a vehicle mode.

If the robot mode doesn't resemble a vehicle at all, then you know what it is and can only be. A shellformer. Galvatron practically is a shellformer because his robot mode is just a sci fi space robot, not a Transformer.

I think I'll continue to hunt for the first version of Crosshairs since it has some feely value.

I definitely agree, 4 & 5's designs are amongst my least favourite because they don't even look like robots that are able transform into cars, just robots that happen to 'animorph' into a car. The toys did somewhat help me with liking the designs - but that's due to them actually embracing the car parts for some (I do like Drift's Bugatti toy, as an example, even if it's quite kibbly.)

SpaceEagle wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well the paint and face look better. But man those bots have horrible designs of TF 4. They are just big dudes in space armor who can teleport in a vehicle mode.

If the robot mode doesn't resemble a vehicle at all, then you know what it is and can only be. A shellformer. Galvatron practically is a shellformer because his robot mode is just a sci fi space robot, not a Transformer.

I think I'll continue to hunt for the first version of Crosshairs since it has some feely value.

I definitely agree, 4 & 5's designs are amongst my least favourite because they don't even look like robots that are able transform into cars, just robots that happen to 'animorph' into a car. The toys did somewhat help me with liking the designs - but that's due to them actually embracing the car parts for some (I do like Drift's Bugatti toy, as an example, even if it's quite kibbly.)

It took 3P/KO versions of Bayverse characters for me to appreciate some of their aesthetic qualities, such as this upcoming, triple-changing version of Drift. It's great, although the copter mode isn't great.



(Source: - https://showzstore.com/metagate-haiku-drift_p4108.html )

primalxconvoy wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

noctorro wrote:Well the paint and face look better. But man those bots have horrible designs of TF 4. They are just big dudes in space armor who can teleport in a vehicle mode.

If the robot mode doesn't resemble a vehicle at all, then you know what it is and can only be. A shellformer. Galvatron practically is a shellformer because his robot mode is just a sci fi space robot, not a Transformer.

I think I'll continue to hunt for the first version of Crosshairs since it has some feely value.

I definitely agree, 4 & 5's designs are amongst my least favourite because they don't even look like robots that are able transform into cars, just robots that happen to 'animorph' into a car. The toys did somewhat help me with liking the designs - but that's due to them actually embracing the car parts for some (I do like Drift's Bugatti toy, as an example, even if it's quite kibbly.)

It took 3P/KO versions of Bayverse characters for me to appreciate some of their aesthetic qualities, such as this upcoming, triple-changing version of Drift. It's great, although the copter mode isn't great.

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(Source: - https://showzstore.com/metagate-haiku-drift_p4108.html )

I will admit the Bayverse designs really helped toy companies with pushing the limits of engineering. I mean heck, HasTak have at least done some impressive stuff for their price point, but unofficial figures are absolutely slaying it with being able to make the figures as accurate as possible that can still transform convert between forms.

primalxconvoy wrote:

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:As always, if this is not the official version, it would be prudent to wait for actual retail versions being reviewed by legit YouTubers before we jump to any conclusions regarding any possible faults or defects in this mold. For all we know, the retail versions might differ considerably to ones by those giving us peegey tips, however "helpful" they may seem. This might even be true if the unboxed versions are BETTER than the originals, and we get our hopes up.

Don't these usually come right off the assembly line? Unless they have Hasbro's serial numbers printed directly on them they're probably final products. Do you have any examples of reviewed figures being different from the retail release (aside from blemishes and broken parts)?

Emerje

With 3P products, whenever they're reviewed, they're often accompanied by disclosures that they're pre-production samples (even if they're close to the final product or end up being exactly the same as the final product). This is how more honest YouTubers give us a look at such toys, while also giving us enough info to make more informed decisions prior to purchasing. In some cases, they even state that the companies are aware of certain faults and will (or already have) rectified them.

From personal experience, I've found some of the faults mentioned by those that have watched such unripe product reviews, don't always turn up in the Takara-Tomy versions, so I'm a little sceptical. That's why I usually only watch legit YouTube videos, as any faults mentioned in them might be more widespread.

I'm more interested in the facts, rather than "reviews" akin to fortune telling:

I'm talking about real Transformers, not bootleg garbage.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:
I'm talking about real Transformers, not bootleg garbage.

Emerje

1/ 3P TFs aren't "bootleg garbage".
2/ I already mentioned the differences between "reviews" of (possibly stolen) pre-production samples and later official Takara-Tomy releases.

primalxconvoy wrote:

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:
I'm talking about real Transformers, not bootleg garbage.

Emerje

1/ 3P TFs aren't "bootleg garbage".
2/ I already mentioned the differences between "reviews" of (possibly stolen) pre-production samples and later official Takara-Tomy releases.

They are technically bootlegs though, with the IP theft and all, which I think Hasbro hates more then the early sample reviewers.

ZeroWolf wrote:They are technically bootlegs though, with the IP theft and all, which I think Hasbro hates more then the early sample reviewers.

It would be an "I.P theft" if they used the official symbols and names. So unless they are straight KOs like what's plaguing G1 and MP, I see most if not all 3P toys as "fan art".

And so often, the "fan art" one-up the officials by a large margin. Just look at anything Unique Toys are making.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:They are technically bootlegs though, with the IP theft and all, which I think Hasbro hates more then the early sample reviewers.

It would be an "I.P theft" if they used the official symbols and names. So unless they are straight KOs like what's plaguing G1 and MP, I see most if not all 3P toys as "fan art".

And so often, the "fan art" one-up the officials by a large margin. Just look at anything Unique Toys are making.

I would only compare them if they're in the same price range as 3p have their fair share of advantages over hasbro. I would be far happier if more 3rd parties made their own IP, then Hasbro would see some real competition (something they've not had in a long while)

ZeroWolf wrote:I would only compare them if they're in the same price range as 3p have their fair share of advantages over hasbro. I would be far happier if more 3rd parties made their own IP, then Hasbro would see some real competition (something they've not had in a long while)

"Same price range" is a bit hard to compare when things are produced by smaller companies in smaller quantities. So if I make any comparisons, I go with the same "category" if that makes any senses. Like "MP style" with other MP, "generations style" with Generations.

As for original IP, there's tons of 3P companies who started with "fan art" and then made their own things with their own original designs that have ZERO "hommages" to any Transformers. Unfortunately, they don't have the power of a large corporation like Hasbro or Bandai to be real competitors.

The "MPM" that HASTAK won't make and the 100% original designs. Those are the 3P toys I prefer to collect.

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for original IP, there's tons of 3P companies who started with "fan art" and then made their own things with their own original designs that have ZERO "hommages" to any Transformers. Unfortunately, they don't have the power of a large corporation like Hasbro or Bandai to be real competitors.

Those are the ones I love, I've seen some great designs in that field.

primalxconvoy wrote:

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:
I'm talking about real Transformers, not bootleg garbage.

Emerje

1/ 3P TFs aren't "bootleg garbage".

They aren't bootlegs, you're right, but they are unlicenced figures, stealing likeness owned by Hasbro (or Paramount). The fact that they come from a place which has more lax copyright laws cements that fact, we wouldn't get these from American companies. They are thiefs too, but you seem to be cool with them which makes you look like a major hypocrite (I don,t know who you re as a person, I am just stating how you come across in board interactions). I don't care what twisted and complex logic you write up, that is what you look like: a hypocrite which no one can take seriously, hence why I ignored you for years. However due to several complaints of lack of modding, I have "un-igored you" to remove posts that go against our rules, as you have noticed. You can't criticize or antagonize staff on baords. If you have issues, you know where to send a message. I am making the warnings very clear here so that you can know why you are banned in the future.

Moving on (the following is addressed to everyone), while my opinions on the design differences were in the article, I've since seen a lot of people reffer to the trenchcoat as a cape. And I agree, this does look more like a cape with extra flaps in the front of the robot and the fact that people are calling this a cape is a pretty good sign that there's been some failure in bringing the character's design to toy form.

However, it does look more sleek like in the film and he indeed looks more accurate when looking at the character head on, so still unsure about whether I will be picking him up or not.

-Kanrabat- wrote:It would be an "I.P theft" if they used the official symbols and names. So unless they are straight KOs like what's plaguing G1 and MP, I see most if not all 3P toys as "fan art".

Likeness is also included in IP theft. Some 3p, like the ones for the movie characters, would most definitely get a cease and desist if the toys came from an american based company. As I wrote above, 3p toys coming from a place that has very different laws in terms of copyright infringement is not a coincidence.

I'd say unofficial figures would fall under IP theft because many of them just use designs from G1, IDW, or Bayverse specifically to give fans an alternative option than the ones HasTak are offering us. (Which I guess also steals buyers of the real products too, y'know.) I s'pose you could even throw in the IP theft of the car models as well when it comes to G1 or Bayverse, since they're likewise meant to replicate the model without any actual licensing (HasTak are guilty of this themselves now and then.)

I do think the most interesting of non-HasTak TFs are definitely the more original ones, while still for the most part snagging the overall likeness of a character, it's honestly much more appealing to see them try something unique! (Like, seriously, did we really need all those 'toon accurate Menasors?)

I do, of course, see the appeal of unofficial figures if they offer something that otherwise really can't be obtained, like some of those IDW designs that HasTak will probably never do and/or MP-adjacent figures that likewise have car brands that will probably never give the license to 'war machines' ever again.

Man that crosshairs figure is looking really rough, glad for everyone that's excited for it though. I feel like crosshairs in particular would have needed a leader class budget to be done well - which we all know will never happen, and likely wouldn't even yield an enjoyable toy, which is a shame as I love the concept of the design.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Man that crosshairs figure is looking really rough, glad for everyone that's excited for it though. I feel like crosshairs in particular would have needed a leader class budget to be done well - which we all know will never happen, and likely wouldn't even yield an enjoyable toy, which is a shame as I love the concept of the design.

Haha yeah, would need some real budget finagling to get it just right only to probably not even be worth the dough or effort!
Still, I think what we've gotten (so far) have at least been alright for the price they go at.

SpaceEagle wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Man that crosshairs figure is looking really rough, glad for everyone that's excited for it though. I feel like crosshairs in particular would have needed a leader class budget to be done well - which we all know will never happen, and likely wouldn't even yield an enjoyable toy, which is a shame as I love the concept of the design.

Haha yeah, would need some real budget finagling to get it just right only to probably not even be worth the dough or effort!
Still, I think what we've gotten (so far) have at least been alright for the price they go at.

I feel like they should have just reworked the original figure, the rubber flaps worked better for me

Hellscream9999 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Man that crosshairs figure is looking really rough, glad for everyone that's excited for it though. I feel like crosshairs in particular would have needed a leader class budget to be done well - which we all know will never happen, and likely wouldn't even yield an enjoyable toy, which is a shame as I love the concept of the design.

Haha yeah, would need some real budget finagling to get it just right only to probably not even be worth the dough or effort!
Still, I think what we've gotten (so far) have at least been alright for the price they go at.

I feel like they should have just reworked the original figure, the rubber flaps worked better for me

Maybe they might pull a SS86 Arcee with that!

In case you were wondering what the hole in Galvatron's chest is really for!


My paint work isn't finished on Galvatron yet, so the final version will be much more complete than what you see in the picture xD

ZeroWolf wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:
I'm talking about real Transformers, not bootleg garbage.

Emerje

1/ 3P TFs aren't "bootleg garbage".
2/ I already mentioned the differences between "reviews" of (possibly stolen) pre-production samples and later official Takara-Tomy releases.

They are technically bootlegs though, with the IP theft and all, which I think Hasbro hates more then the early sample reviewers.

1/ 3P TFs are not technicality bootlegs.
2/ Please cite evidence that "Hasbro hates (them) more than early sample reviews).

As you seem to lack knowledge about this subject, feel free to read the main page at this link:

- https://www.allspark.com/forums/threads ... hread.134/

There, you will find relevant links to the various definitions, facts, etc regarding this aspect of the TF fandom.

(It's mainly about "KO" TFs, which are what others usually refer to as "bootlegs", but the legal definitions and terminology also can refer to unofficial 3P products too.)

You're most welcome to post your opinions there, or even at Seibertron's dedicated thread to the same subject:

- third-party-and-knock-off-transformers-news-t109857s375.php

Hope this helps you to learn more about this aspect of TF collecting.

william-james88 wrote:
They aren't bootlegs, you're right, but they are unlicenced figures, stealing likeness owned by Hasbro (or Paramount). The fact that they come from a place which has more lax copyright laws cements that fact, we wouldn't get these from American companies. They are thiefs (sic) too,

Likeness is also included in IP theft. Some 3p, like the ones for the movie characters, would most definitely get a cease and desist if the toys came from an american based company. As I wrote above, 3p toys coming from a place that has very different laws in terms of copyright infringement is not a coincidence.

Incorrect, as I've stated, refer to the link I've provided and you'll see most, if not all of the points you've stated are simply not true. Again, I hope you are able to learn more about this aspect of TFs.

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

Emerje wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:
I'm talking about real Transformers, not bootleg garbage.

Emerje

1/ 3P TFs aren't "bootleg garbage".
2/ I already mentioned the differences between "reviews" of (possibly stolen) pre-production samples and later official Takara-Tomy releases.

They are technically bootlegs though, with the IP theft and all, which I think Hasbro hates more then the early sample reviewers.

1/ 3P TFs are not technicality bootlegs.
2/ Please cite evidence that "Hasbro hates (them) more than early sample reviews).

As you seem to lack knowledge about this subject, feel free to read the main page at this link:

- https://www.allspark.com/forums/threads ... hread.134/

There, you will find relevant links to the various definitions, facts, etc regarding this aspect of the TF fandom.

(It's mainly about "KO" TFs, which are what others usually refer to as "bootlegs", but the legal definitions and terminology also can refer to unofficial 3P products too.)

You're most welcome to post your opinions there, or even at Seibertron's dedicated thread to the same subject:

- third-party-and-knock-off-transformers-news-t109857s375.php

Hope this helps you to learn more about this aspect of TF collecting.

I just assumed the basic logic on why HasTak would dislike unofficial figures more is because, well, "Hey, they're buying someone else's stuff based on our stuff rather than actually buying our stuff itself!"
(Of course, buying an early sample from some factory worker still means someone didn't buy it from HasTak either, but I am not going to pretend to be an expert on how manufacturing costs and/or the gravy of profit that comes from stores buying products from HasTak to sell rather than the consumer buying it from the store.)

Especially since with early sample reviews still generating some hype and interest in HasTak's products vs unofficial figures usually making people go "Ah geez, why the heck aren't the official figures like this?" (Which, I mean...considering the bang for the buck you get with stuff like MP-44...I can see why an unofficial fig' does a whole lot better.)
And thus HasTak would [probably] prefer it if people buy official stuff instead.

Ah, gotta love those multibillion dollar megacorporations!

william-james88 wrote:
I have removed posts that go against our rules

- Which ones? I only noticed the ones you removed the other day. I've also received no notifications via the site that posts were removed (which I've noticed Seibertron used to do, via an automated notification system), nor any PMs which contain a warning or notification of any posts being removed.

You can't criticize or antagonize staff on boards (sic) If you have issues, you know where to send a message.

When was there any criticism? Again, no direct messages or communication regarding this was given. And again, as stated, no PMs by you/the site have been received regarding this. Please feel free to use the very system you've suggested, as this seems the most logical in solving this issue, non?

I am making the warnings very clear here so that you can know why you are banned in the future.

That's the thing; you're not being clear. See above.

As due diligence, this will also be PMed to you.

I think I'm on board with new Crosshairs, I never did get the old one as there was always something else I needed.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:In case you were wondering what the hole in Galvatron's chest is really for!

Galvatron Meme.jpg

My paint work isn't finished on Galvatron yet, so the final version will be much more complete than what you see in the picture xD

Is there space inside the robot to (soft) mod it to hold an actual pencil sharpener? That would be superb!