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SECRETS AND LIES! As the Scavengers’ journey reaches its ignoble end, the architect of their downfall puts the fate of half the Cybertronian race in their hands. Only one question remains: Are the worst Decepticons prepared to become the ONLY Decepticons?
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Posted by ZeroWolf on February 25th, 2018 @ 11:33am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 25th, 2018 @ 2:00pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 25th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on February 25th, 2018 @ 10:26pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Not bad. I don't want to get my hopes up, because it's only a 3-page preview, but might we finally be getting a decent story in LL?
Shhhh, there’s still time to rush it completely
Posted by ScottyP on February 28th, 2018 @ 2:06pm CST
And that last page, my word, that is a masterpiece. The lines, the lighting, the words - that's how you do a cliffhanger!
Unofficial score (someone else is writing the formal review): 113/Fulcrum; would have Khary Payton voice this Grimlock
Posted by Counterpunch on February 28th, 2018 @ 7:10pm CST
I liked it and I hope it continues along this trajectory.
Posted by Quint on March 1st, 2018 @ 11:05am CST
After being written into an impossible corner, the heroes escape via a tedious scene of heavy exposition.
Terrible stuff.
Posted by snavej on March 1st, 2018 @ 1:19pm CST
she was very close to the 'phone so she probably heard the message herself. Why wasn't she paralysed too? Tarn might have given her the antidote previously but, if he did, he shouldn't have been so trusting. He was the chief of the Decepticon anti-rebellion forces. He shouldn't have given her the means to neutralise his sonic weapon.
Posted by WreckerJack on March 1st, 2018 @ 1:40pm CST
Also when are they gonna stop the OMG those guys are dead oh no they are not thing. Yes Jro we know you like to shock us but it's like crying wolf every other issue now. At first it was shocking but now it's just annoying. It's like they wanna toy with us to see how we will react. At this point I don't even think tailgate is gone forever because of this stuff.
If I had one nice thing to say about these issues it was they had a good smooth flow to the story. I feel like the aforementioned issues take away from it but I was enjoying the scavengers. They are quite relatable and you can't help having a soft spot for 'em. Honestly they are fun characters and I would enjoy more content with them if they didn't ruin the story with unnecessary stuff.
I'll admit that I prefer if they stick with one or two stories per issue. Back in MTMTE sometimes I would get confused because there was so much going on. I know they had to do it to introduce all of the characters but add in the time travel arcs and sometimes I had to re-read to get things all straight in my head. Not a big issue but in the beginning it was a little daunting to get into the series. Either way I don't really have high hopes for future issues. I may be making the switch to another series if this keeps up rather than staying around to let this one sour on me.
Posted by ScottyP on March 1st, 2018 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by WreckerJack on March 1st, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST
If you enjoyed this issue that's totally cool, don't let my grumping spoil it for ya.
Posted by Quint on March 1st, 2018 @ 6:25pm CST
ScottyP wrote:I think 14-15 are really tough to hate on like y'all are doing. I want this book to succeed and sell a lot and continue for a long time but if you didn't enjoy these last two I think this might not be the book for you. The Scavengers are one of the best elements of the series and encapsulate so much of it so well in symbolic ways. I really hope we get to see more of them down the line, but this part of their story is pretty satisfyingly concluded at this point.
You wish this apparently struggling book to succeed while simultaneously suggesting we stop buying it? Seriously though there's likely only - what - five or so issues left and we've stuck it this far
The sheer excellence of those first 30 or so issues (sans Dark Cybertron) warrant a decent conclusion. Besides, it's a forum - vive la différence!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 1st, 2018 @ 6:37pm CST
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Posted by Big Grim on March 2nd, 2018 @ 7:40am CST
ScottyP wrote:15 was glorious. I have to admit, the twist involving an infant with a Decepticon logo face tattoo had me rolling my eyes for a few minutes, but it was literally just that. Once I kept going and Scorponok explained what was going on, I found that to make sense and be consistent with this version of the character especially given past unusual events from the Furman era. Felt a bit, thematically, like elements found in Masterforce. Should be fun to see where it goes!
And that last page, my word, that is a masterpiece. The lines, the lighting, the words - that's how you do a cliffhanger!
Unofficial score (someone else is writing the formal review): 113/Fulcrum; would have Khary Payton voice this Grimlock
Agreed! I thoroughly enjoyed this issue. I've liked the callbacks the last two issues have made. I mean, Scorponok mentioning Dante? Who'da thought it? Loving how Grimlock is developing too, what with him being my fave Dino.
Really ought to try and tough my way through the Japanese shows. I've had em for years but it was tough to get into Headmasters and I kinda stalled.
Posted by ScottyP on March 2nd, 2018 @ 9:01am CST
I typed a post when I didn't have enough time to, so... this is fair. Glad things aren't as doom and gloom as my initial readings of some posts suggestedQuint wrote:ScottyP wrote:I think 14-15 are really tough to hate on like y'all are doing. I want this book to succeed and sell a lot and continue for a long time but if you didn't enjoy these last two I think this might not be the book for you. The Scavengers are one of the best elements of the series and encapsulate so much of it so well in symbolic ways. I really hope we get to see more of them down the line, but this part of their story is pretty satisfyingly concluded at this point.
You wish this apparently struggling book to succeed while simultaneously suggesting we stop buying it? Seriously though there's likely only - what - five or so issues left and we've stuck it this far
The sheer excellence of those first 30 or so issues (sans Dark Cybertron) warrant a decent conclusion. Besides, it's a forum - vive la différence!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 2nd, 2018 @ 9:39am CST
Also confirmed from Roberts on Twitter, we have news that Issue 19 of the series, set to come out in June, will feature the original IDW artist, EJ Su, on line work! Since doing the linework for the early -ations era of comics, and with some work in All Hail Megatron, Spotlights Prowl and Jazz, and some recent covers, this will be EJ's first issue of linework since 2010.
Are you excited for Lost Light to be going to issue 25? Thrilled to have EJ Su back on art duties for a Transformers comic? Let us know in the comments section below!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 2nd, 2018 @ 9:42am CST
Posted by ScottyP on March 2nd, 2018 @ 10:05am CST
Posted by Randomhero on March 2nd, 2018 @ 10:15am CST
Posted by Nexus Knight on March 2nd, 2018 @ 11:50am CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those keeping track, with issue 15 having come out this past month (February) and the recent Solicitations showing that issue 18 is set to come in May, this means Lost Light will be running till December, when issue 25 will be coming out.
That's a nice assumption, thinking IDW will be able to keep to its infamously bad scheduling.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 2nd, 2018 @ 11:54am CST
I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
Posted by Randomhero on March 2nd, 2018 @ 11:56am CST
Nexus Knight wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those keeping track, with issue 15 having come out this past month (February) and the recent Solicitations showing that issue 18 is set to come in May, this means Lost Light will be running till December, when issue 25 will be coming out.
That's a nice assumption, thinking IDW will be able to keep to its infamously bad scheduling.
They’re already back in schedule and it’s not just IDWs fault. MTMTE got delayed quite a bit sometimes and Milne took full responsibility. When he found out he wasn’t on LL he fully admitted he couldn’t keep up. A lot of the times it is the artist or the writer.
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 2nd, 2018 @ 2:02pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.
I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.
Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?
Posted by Randomhero on March 2nd, 2018 @ 3:32pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.
I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.
Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?
No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.
Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.
He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.
Posted by Randomhero on March 2nd, 2018 @ 3:34pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.
I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
I’m gonna call it now and say LL will have nothing to do with unicron. 19-25 will be Rodomus, getaway and the scavengers with maybe Fort Max and Red Alert all coming together to Cyberutpia and concluding that story.
I think we’ll go back to one comic. I think we need to at this point but with both John and James. Like Dark Cybertron. John does story and James does the characters. It’s their strengths. Death of Optimus Prime is one the best comics we’ve gotten and it’s beciase it played on both their strengths
Posted by o.supreme on March 2nd, 2018 @ 3:35pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 2nd, 2018 @ 5:11pm CST
Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.
I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.
Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?
No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.
Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.
He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.
Ah I see, though I'm a little confused as to why that's a bad thing, like the example you give, what's so wrong with that? It's something that plays with visuals (like the scene where night beat and nautica are looking into brainstorms suitcase and time gets a lil weird.) It seems more to me that roberts adopts more of a comedy approach which again, I feel is fine as there shouldn't be anything you can't attempt with comics.
I also don't see the problem with borrowing TV lingo for story arcs as comics have always had things like: whatever event: part 2 of 6. I'd he wants to call a bunch of story arcs a season then that's fine, can't see why it would cause a fuss.
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on March 2nd, 2018 @ 10:16pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 2nd, 2018 @ 11:47pm CST
The main reason I said that was because Roberts himself practically admitted it, and because the pacing of his writing is like a TV show. The stories wouldn't be so bad if he would keep a steady pace of setting things up and then delivering on them, and not just leave details and story lines seemingly unfinished and then expect us to remember everything when he suddenly comes back to some small detail 6 months later. It's the erratic pacing (or plotting, whichever is more appropriate) that annoys me the most. For this reason, his stories are better when binged. This is why I don't like reading the individual issues, just get the trades when a story arc is over. Most of MTMTE's stories were pretty good reads when I read them as a whole, except the last 2. Dying of the Light was such a disappointment, and it couldn't even be blamed on horrible pacing, it was just a bad ending to what promised to be a great story. I reserve full judgment on LL until it is actually over and I read the whole thing from issue 1 to 25. So far I'm not impressed, but who knows, it could get good. The last 2 issues were an improvement over the previous 6 or 7. So we'll see. Again, that's what I mean about pacing. So uneven. Just exposes the flaws of Roberts' writing even more.ZeroWolf wrote:Randomhero wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.
I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.
I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.
Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?
No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.
Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.
He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.
Ah I see, though I'm a little confused as to why that's a bad thing, like the example you give, what's so wrong with that? It's something that plays with visuals (like the scene where night beat and nautica are looking into brainstorms suitcase and time gets a lil weird.) It seems more to me that roberts adopts more of a comedy approach which again, I feel is fine as there shouldn't be anything you can't attempt with comics.
I also don't see the problem with borrowing TV lingo for story arcs as comics have always had things like: whatever event: part 2 of 6. I'd he wants to call a bunch of story arcs a season then that's fine, can't see why it would cause a fuss.
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 3rd, 2018 @ 10:57am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 3rd, 2018 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by ScottyP on March 3rd, 2018 @ 3:46pm CST
This latest chapter of Lost Light is set for release on March 14, 2018, making it the fourth entry of the series in just seven weeks at that point. Who knew Transformers comics had gone bi-weekly? The preview pages are mirrored below, featuring the writing of James Roberts, line art by Jack Lawrence, and colors by (presumably) Joana Lafuente.
Nothing weird about a floating Matrix of Leadership, right? Discuss these latest developments with other Transformers fans on our Energon Pub Forums by replying to this post!
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 3rd, 2018 @ 4:03pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 3rd, 2018 @ 7:13pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, now how will this tie into things. My guess is that none of them are actually there physically. Also anyone else get the feeling that Cyclonus is seeing something different?
I think he's seeing Tailgate. that's my guess
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 3rd, 2018 @ 7:39pm CST
Well, we were wrong.
Thanks once more to James Roberts Twitter page, we have 2 new pieces of news to share with you tonight. The first news is that, following the spectacular return of EJ Su to interior work, we have word that issue 20 will be handled by yet another long time Transformers artist new to the series: Casey Coller!. Coller will be the guest artist for issue 20 of the series, and we are looking forward to finally seeing him on Lost Light interiors.
The 2nd piece of news is a 1-page penciled preview of EJ Su's artwork for issue 19! Check it out below, and let us know what you think of this newest piece of Lost Light news!
Posted by WreckerJack on March 3rd, 2018 @ 7:56pm CST
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 3rd, 2018 @ 8:07pm CST
Posted by Randomhero on March 3rd, 2018 @ 11:21pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:I also think Cyclonus is seeing something else. So Rodimus is having a Matrix vision. Maybe he'll get it back and become Rodimus Prime just in time for Unicron to show up.
They’re in the same place seeing the same thing.
Here’s no matrix to get back. It’s broken and in Optimus possession. This is a 3 part story.
They’re not going to be part of the Unicron story. That’s going to be only johns thing. James last story will be him tying up his own story of all his characters converging on cyberutopia.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on March 4th, 2018 @ 12:47am CST
I must have missed this information in the news. Can you post a link, please?Randomhero wrote:They’re not going to be part of the Unicron story. That’s going to be only johns thing. James last story will be him tying up his own story of all his characters converging on cyberutopia.
Posted by Galactic Prime on March 4th, 2018 @ 4:48pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Then why did you read it for so long? Normally if something doesn't click with me after three-four issues we part ways.
Mostly for the art, and a tiny bit hoping at some point it would get better, sadly, I was wrong on the second part. At least the art has gotten better since they let that clown EJ Su draw it
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 4th, 2018 @ 5:58pm CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:01pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:23pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From the look on his face, maybe Cyclonus sees this:
Hah,
Nah if that was the case, the panel would show him rolling over the floor laughing, expecting the original cyclonus to break out into a village people song looking like that.
Seriously it looks like hes wearing briefs
I think that it will end up being tailgate as someone else suggested, or, in a curve ball move, he's sees an image of cybertron as it was before the first ark launched.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:26pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:19pm CST
Can't wait for the five page preview to come up, though it will be next week (hopefully) before we get answers...apart from those lucky few who get review copies early
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:34pm CST
The nostalgia of G1 always holds back plot progression in virtually everything Transformers that came after. Plot progression in all comics is something I am a strong advocate of. Characters should change, die and not return etc etc
However, Cyclonus current design.. isn't great. His original design is iconic. My point was that yet again, Much like Ultra Magnus, IDW Cyclonus started off as something different and interesting and.. went to the wrong book. G1 has next to no sway over me at all. Beast Wars is king.
Personally I thought Megatron and Galvatron work as separate characters. Although Megatron should have been killed off at an earlier stage. Maybe at the conclusion to CHAOS? When you shed him and Prime, usually the series starts to progress forward.
Posted by X3ROhour on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:13pm CST
i have got some sort of braincloud
someone tell me,
why dud Rodimass paint himself?
i cannot recall and cannot find the why.
anyone?
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST
Posted by X3ROhour on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:20pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:If I recall correctly it was after the comic was rebranded and it was rodimus way of remembering the dead
WHAAA!?
Posted by Quint on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:46am CST
Z3ROhour wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:If I recall correctly it was after the comic was rebranded and it was rodimus way of remembering the dead
WHAAA!?
Drift convinced him to convert to Spectralism and, in doing so, chose a new paint job which represented both mourning and an intent to kill. And also to increase sales of Black Rodimus toys or summat, I dunno.