Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers

Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers

Wednesday, June 21st, 2017 7:52pm CDT

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Fellow Seibertronian ZhGingaah was able to attend the London premiere for Transformers: The Last Knight, meaning that we now have a full review for the movie! The spoilers are clearly marked out in the piece, and there is a buffer zone in this news write-up, but if you'd rather avoid them altogether, we have a separate discussion thread for non-spoiler movie discussion right here in the Energon Pub!

Also included below is a recording of the initial Michael Bay comments at the event, some images of the crowd, cast and set-up - in addition the ones already seen here - and at the very end, some spoilerrific listicles of likes, dislikes and WTF moments. Check it all out below, and let us now what you think once you've seen the movie for yourselves!



Transformers News: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers

Transformers News: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers

Transformers News: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers


Well, that's (not) just Prime...

'Transformers: The Last Knight', then; Michael Bay's (really-this-time-honest) last hurrah, Mark Wahlberg's (self-professed) last instalment, possibly (please Primus, let it be) the last time we need to stage one of these interventions.
Yeah, this movie is 'that guy' - they 'am what they am', they're not afraid to make a song and dance about it, they simply will not be ignored and they're not changing (transforming?) for anyone. So every few years when they put on a big number, all of us long-term friends jump in and try to sort this guy out, calm 'em down a little...

Having started off with the best of intentions in 2007, two years later we're telling them to knock it off with the hyperactive humans whose contribution to plot forwarding is inversely proportional to their screen-time; we're also having to tell them to not say 'scrotum' in front of the children.

Another couple of years and once again, we're trying to get them to ease off on the vacuous humans taking up valuable minutes. We convince them to take their time with their next big production, have another year at it, 'work that rich thirty year old mythology, baby, yeah'! Oh. Underage sex references, transformium and Chinese product placement... Right. That's it. You're on your...

Oh. Okay. Big Imax 3D screen - great balls of fire over the Paramount logo. Dark Ages England. Indistinguishable from magic... Right, okay this isn't bad, this is... is that really Stanley Tucci?! I'm not sur.....HOLY FRIGGIN' NORA, IS THE CINEMA MOVING?! THIS IS INTENSE!! WOOOOOOH!!
And we're suck(er)ed in... again.

To be fair though, what TLK gets absolutely right is getting the Transformers on screen (at the same time as the core human cast) pretty much right from the get-go. Whilst clearly set in 'The Bayverse', the first 40 minutes or so kinda have the feel of an extended G1 cartoon episode... and I mean that in the best possible way.

While previous movies gave us a tease and then put most of the bots back in their playbox for half an hour or more, here we're quickly introduced to our 'character of the week', Isabela Moner's Izabella, and within minutes we see (and hear!) from all these new toys (er, 'important characters') including Sqweeks (who isn't annoying and if kids find him cute, fine), Barricade, Megatron, Steelbane (not name-checked), Drift and Hound. Oh and Bumblebee; yes, of course everyone's favourite peg-warmer is there...
And just like a G1 episode, Megatron's got a kerrrazy plan for some McGuffin or other, he's taking advantage of our human pals Morshower and Lennox (or is he? - *wink wink*) and... did... did you just see that? Did Megatron just do Suicide Squad? Is this film taking the proverbial? (The answer to that, given that one of Vivian Wembley's family is apparently played by the actress who brought Martha Wayne to life in another DCU 'classic', is yes. Yes it is!)

Like it or not, Bay's movies pretty much always have a 'humorous' element to them. It's a coping mechanism for the audience, I guess - a counterbalance to all the death and destruction and MORE ASPLOSIONS!! And we can all do the bitching and moaning thing or we can accept that, for better or worse, this is what you're gonna get in a Transformers movie. Except this time, it's ever so subtly different; your mileage may vary, but I genuinely found this movie to be quite self-deprecating!
The Suicide Squad 'thing' - you could write it off as a rip-off, or crap homage. But the Martha thing makes me think that someone's poking fun here. We all love Steve Jablonsky's incredible scores on these films, right? But haven't we heard 'Arrival To Earth' more than enough by now? Oh, not like this, we haven't! (Properly funny meta-gag!) There's so much tongue in cheek - Vivian shouting from inside Hot Rod 'at least tell me I've been abducted by one of the famous ones' (because who'd want to be kidnapped by Drench, amirite?)! Cogman doing... well, pretty much anything! You and I already know it - a 'British' accent (aka an erudite English form of Received Pronunciation) lets you get away with blue bloody murder...

...which Anthony Hopkins and Jim 'Downton Abbey' Carter do. Apparently part-scripted, part-improv, these two are just nuts. They can deliver all these ridiculous lines and still give it 'the Shakespeare' bit and make it sound like the end of days is upon us, all hope is lost but by jingo we're going to have a jolly good time while we stiff upper lip it out, what what! Cogman is the standout new character in this film - loyal servant and sociopathic crazybot in equal measure, he's as much of a split personality as TLK is itself.

And that's the rub - when it's being silly, TLK is good fun. When it (finally!) embraces the deep mythos of Transformers and attempts to induct all these 'popcorn-blockbuster-watchers' ever deeper into the world of Cybertron and all that, things become little more than perfunctory. Full disclosure - I love Peter Cullen as Optimus, even as Bayverse Optimus, but Dark of The Moon remains the only Transformers movie where he's been around for the whole thing (faked death aside - ooh, hashtag spoilers from 2011 there), and annoyingly he's not had any 'decent' dialogue since the first half of DOTM - most of AOE was expositional or 'out of character' (a debate for another time) and despite being in SOOO many trailers, he really doesn't figure until the last half, maybe third, of TLK.

Frank Welker gets possibly the better deal - Megatron gets to swan around being a nasty piece of work, the 'Izy rescuing Sqweeks' scene from the trailers shows his disdain for 'lower' forms of life, we even get a 'Decepticons, retreat!' for the fanboys. But his time playing off against Cullen's Prime is limited again, sadly. That said, there's one interaction between the pair that's hugely reminiscent of TF:TM (1986)... but no, not what you're thinking. It's a nice nod and if you're anything like me, you'll be cursing (even more of) the choices made by the writers of AOE. What could / should have been...
So by now you're thinking 'I've read a thousand words and I can't tell if you really liked it or not, lad'! To be brutally honest, I'm not sure either... no, that's not quite fair. As an 'Imax 3D experience', this was f-bomb-ing epic. Say what you want about Michael Bay and some of his choices, edits (there was a lot filmed and then cut for this film apparently) and sense of humour, but (ready the stock phrase for launch) his action sequences are absolutely phenomenal.

And as has generally been the case with each film, the scope of the effects have gotten bigger each time but Bay's also learned / chosen to reign the camerawork in as time's gone on - there's less crazy-breakneck panning and swivelling, there's some really nice occasional use of slo-mo to let you really see everything in all that glorious ultra high definition glory - it's why I can't quite remember all the nerdy bits you want to know (even though I wouldn't tell you all of them even if I could), you're just too busy taking in the spectacle. Is that style over substance? I guess, but if you can do style over substance in the best possible way, this 'film' does. Did I say film? Meh... I suppose it is, just about. It's really a thrill ride with some substance.

The 'substance' that is there is presented in time honoured fashion - Event brings McGuffin to Earth, heroes and villains battle for McGuffin leading to further McGuffin leading to final showdown. So far, so formulaic. Now for the science part - pay attention... and here we be getting spoilery a bit, so brace yourselves...

BIGGER SPOILERS FROM HERE

...right, you with me?
Transformers: Prime then. You watched it didn't you? Whaddaya mean, no?! It's the best TF series there's been (TF:A and BW fans can save that row for another day). Anyway, if you're not familiar with it, this'll all be new to you. If you are a Prime aficionado, and particularly if you're enough of an 'Aligned' continuity fan to have a copy of 'The Covenant of Primus' book / bible / massive insignia thing, then some of what's glimpsed in TLK will make sense. I say some, because to quote Optimus from G1's 'The Rebirth', 'every answer lead to a bigger question'.
We meet Quintessa, who I'm almost certain (three days time might prove me a liar here) refers to herself as 'the Prime of Life'. Now, that chimes very much with what we know of Quintus, one of the fabled Thirteen Primes, the first Transformers directly descended from Primus. The Thirteen were always meant to be 'omniversal' in TF fiction so that raises questions when Quintessa claims to be 'Optimus' creator'. I mean, you can interpret that in a few ways - literally (she might be, if Optimus isn't a 'Thirteen' Prime here), metaphorically (as the 'life-giving' portion of Primus, perhaps Quintus is responsible for all the Primes coming into being), or in a 'Hey, the writers just smacked out any old tosh' way again.

There's lots of other unanswered questions too - how and why did the Knights end up stuck on Earth? Sure, when you know what you know at film's end, you can start trying to hypothesise myriad reasons for the scenario we find our bots in, but it's not fully explained. Given how much expositional dialogue there is and how it (as per usual) starts to feel far too quickly rattled off by the end, that's not a great thing for those of trying to reconcile this series into something approaching a salient narrative - to be fair, if this writers’ room really is trying as hard as I think they are (but they don't want to overload and already bat-shit mental mainstream blockbuster), I think these spin-off movies and animated prequels and what not could actually be a lot of fun. But that doesn't help us in the here and now...
And where do the Dinobots disappear to again? And what's the point of Jerrod Carmichael's Jimmy? I mean, he's not terrible by any means, he's just kinda there, you wouldn't really miss him if he wasn't. Same can almost be said for Izzy, but she at least gives Mark Wahlberg the surrogate dad thing to do and they can both riff on the 'no sacrifice, no victory' thing that is very much back front and centre here.
Whilst I'm talking about fleshlings, I'd say this core cast is probably the tightest and most entertaining we've had in the series - Wahlberg, Haddock, Hopkins and Carter are all very good, Moner is perfectly cute in her scenes without going full Wesley Crusher to give the young'uns in the crowd their one to root for, Lennox and Morshower getting the best of the supporting roles, even if it's mostly exposition. For British TV fans, there's cameos from the likes of Rebecca Front (The Thick of it, Lewis) and IMDB swears Mrs Doyle from Father Ted was in there (one for the 2D re-watch or Bluray there) but Tony Hale (Arrested Development, Veep, Chuck) was hugely irritating as the NASA JPL guy - the (thankfully) brief scenes there are really quite irritating when they pop up and are pretty pointless in the grand scheme of things.

John Turturro is there as Seymour Simmons again too. On a payphone. From Cuba. Because. Because... John Turturro. I think. I mean, it's kinda cute that they recognise that Simmons had this all semi-sussed (somehow) from right back in the day... equally, I think they just wanted him to say scrotum again. Twice. Don't worry, it's not Devastator's. Or his. No, I think in a film that graphically destroys the star harvester pyramid from ROTF, crunches the ark from DOTM and describes the remains of Chicago and wherever else got trashed by the Decepticons as a 'no go area', it's a less than subtle suggestion that for the most part, the writers room want to wipe the slate clean, say 'bollocks' to much of what has gone before and go on to tell new stories off the back of this one. Yes, it unequivocally sets up a sequel. Yes, it's pretty obvious what they're going to have to deal with. And oh yes, there is a mid-credits sequence, so don't move too soon...

That's a lot of not a lot there isn't it? My 'review'. The film too, if you're being harsh. To be honest, this is the film AOE should have been - if you could somehow have had Cade save Optimus at the end of DOTM instead of taking a whole film over it, Lockdown appear and disappear at the start of this one with Optimus immediately setting off to find his creator, we wouldn't be missing much really.
The performances by the majority of the on-screen and voice over casts lift this to a higher level than the other sequels - if you concede that they all do pretty much the same thing in terms of story construction, this one (world-building issues and foibles notwithstanding) probably does it with the most style and panache. You know Bay makes shit blow up good, the car chases are fun, the scenery’s beautiful, the final set pieces are stupidly grand as they have to be.

The one possibly controversial conceit at the heart of this story, concerning Optimus... I enjoyed the pay off. For my money, it was a(nother) nice G1 Season 3 nod. Equally, knowing how some have bitched about a certain element of these movies for ten years now, I can understand if more than a few people really don't care for it - you'll know when you see it. For my money, it was preferable to (yet another) McGuffin.


Summary

In summary then, for those of you who perhaps wisely just scrolled down here and ignored all the ramblings - for better or worse, it's a Michael Bay Transformers movie, what the frigg were you expecting?! It is perhaps the best since the original. It is certainly the most spectacular to look at and the IMAX 3D thing certainly is not just marketing bollocks (there's that scrotum again), it really was astonishing. It is NOT (on its own) a jump forward in storytelling and mythology for this series - it DOES lay some massive groundwork but that NEEDS to built upon for this to have been truly worth all the hullaballoo. Harsh but fair, I'd have liked a bit more to love but there's less to hate than in previous outings. Go see it and don't think about it too hard til you've had time to rest your weary senses!


Transformers News: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers

Transformers News: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers

Transformers News: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers


THINGS I LIKED:
  • The Autobot crew hiding out together - some nice character moments there. I love Crosshairs! And Wheelie's still kicking!
  • The opening Autobot+Human v Decepticon fight in the abandoned town. Sweet transformations and some fun ass-kickings.
  • Barricade getting a bit of chat! The con chat fizzles out quickly, but it's fun while it lasts.
  • The 'water fight' is stunnining. Opening scene in Arthurian times is also staggeringly good.
  • Cogman is a top lil bastard and I want to see him again. And his organ. ;)

THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE:
  • Some of Quintessa's CGI looked a bit off - most of the film is AAA+, so that's annoying.
  • Too many dangly threads that need to be sussed 'next time'.
  • Why the Knights Temenos pretty much appeared outta nowhere - how hard could it be to find and keep stashed prior to now?!
  • The apparently simplicity with which Quintessa is dealt with. Sure, we don't need more McGuffins but it was all a little 'yeah, okay then'.
  • 'Infernocus' who I think had a different name pretty much comes and goes. Meh. But the fact Quintessa has a combiner? Maybe Nexus Prime is about too...
  • No mention of Solus Prime, The Forge, Well of All Sparks etc.

SUPER SPOILERS:
  • Quintessa calls herself 'The Prime of Life', hitherto known in other continuities as Quintus Prime.
    But is she really?! The Knights denounce her as Quintessa The Deceiver!
  • For being taken in by Quintessa, The Knights pass judgemnt on Optimus - "The sentence is death!" A nice nod to the Quintesson scenes in TFTM!
  • Christened 'Nemesis Prime', Quintessa's sway over Optimus is broken by Bumblebee finally activating his own voice after all these years, just as Nemesis is about to execute him.
  • The encroaching doom seen in the trailers is indeed Cybertron, under the control of Quintessa.
  • The horn you see on Earth in the trailers... not the Knights Temenos. *wink*
  • Yeah, you do see more than one horn... *wink*
  • Stonehenge is the access point to the power at the Earth's core... and what is down there. *wink*
  • That's not the Forge of Solus Prime we see Bumblebee waving about... at least, it isn't named as such and although it appears after the Knights scene, I don't know for sure if that's where he acquired it.
  • Cade is indeed The Last Knight... for what that's worth. It is in fact Vivian who is the most important character here.
  • Yes, wink wink, Prime fans, Earth is Unicron. Named and everything. And very much a thing going forward...
  • Gemma Chan who voices Quintessa also appears on screen. *Big Wink* (Get your Covenant of Primus out!)

SUPER SPOILERY WTFS:
  • If Vivian hadn't retrieved 'the staff' - then what? Maybe a 'Prime' like Optimus can get round that problem if he was one of The Thirteen / A knight (there's definitely a statue of a 'knight' that looks very like him... Like I said, they could start to create a satisfying story with this, but it could all be so much ROTF nonsense if they're not careful...
  • I like the whole 'Witwiccan' thing... but does this mean Shia / Sam and the clan are dead if Vivian is the last surviving descendant of Merlin? Maybe I misheard some of that bit...
  • Would Cybertron have become Unicron if the transfer had completed? Is Quintessa a Prime, an agent of Unicron, actually The Creator or what?
  • We don't see the techno-organic 'Quintessons' from AOE. But if Quintessa did create them, maybe they will be coming in TF6?



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Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891289)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 21st, 2017 @ 7:56pm CDT
It Is Him wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
It Is Him wrote:Did anyone else notice Wahlburg had Michael Bay's haircut?
What has been seen cannot be unseen. Thank you so much for that.

Also I forgot to mention before but Barricade had sweet brass knuckles. "Punish" and (I'm assuming because I didn't see it) "Enslave."
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891291)
Posted by Randomhero on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:02pm CDT
I just got out of it and i really enjoyed it. its not perfect in the slightest but i had fun.

however i walked away saying "so they stopped sucking the earth dry but isnt cybertron still colliding with the planet? they saved Earth but isnt Unicron still waking up?" oh well it was a fun ride.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891304)
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:31pm CDT
This was trash... part 1 through 3 is the best its gonna get, (with part 1 in 2007) being the best.
If we can't get a remake from James Cameron or someone like that, then this "bay" franchise is dead to me... period
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891308)
Posted by zko on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:42pm CDT
I liked it, I've liked all the Bay movies pretty well, and this one was my favorite.

It played out a bit like the plot of season 1 and 2 of prime as a Bay movie, mixed with some of the G1 episode where they go back to medieval times and also the old kids read along book "When Continents Collide" had some stuff in there that seemed to be almost reflecting some biblical, book of revelations stuff with the plot about the horns, the dragon, the seal etc, but that wasn't carried too far.

So ya, I will be buying the DVD to go with my collection.

There are alot of loose ends to tie up as this spoilerful review stated, also I was curious if Merlin and Joshua Joyce were the same guy for a while because of Tucci I thought maybe they had pulled some Terminator or early G1 time traveling cave stunt on us and that is why he knew so much about the "magic"
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891310)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on June 21st, 2017 @ 8:55pm CDT
Dear god that was a lot of words, id really recommend trimming it a bit cause your going to lose people about halfway through. But after reading that im going to do what i always do with bayformers, wait til someone i know gets a bootleg then borrow it & decide if its worth spending money to go see. It sounds like the same crap we've been dealing with for years, tons of potential but because of shortsightedness and targeting the mindless moron demographic we get stuck with :michaelbay: and not much else.


Side question: do the decepticons have lines and do stuff in this one or are they just there to get killed (be plot devices) like always? Sorry if this was mentioned in the article, i started skimming through at about the half way mark so i might have missed it.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891315)
Posted by dragons on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:31pm CDT
I like it saw movie on opening night once 3D as much I hate 3D I only saw it it have less people compared as many in 2d version


Megatron Wolf wrote:Dear god that was a lot of words, id really recommend trimming it a bit cause your going to lose people about halfway through. But after reading that im going to do what i always do with bayformers, wait til someone i know gets a bootleg then borrow it & decide if its worth spending money to go see. It sounds like the same crap we've been dealing with for years, tons of potential but because of shortsightedness and targeting the mindless moron demographic we get stuck with :michaelbay: and not much else.


Side question: do the decepticons have lines and do stuff in this one or are they just there to get killed (be plot devices) like always? Sorry if this was mentioned in the article, i started skimming through at about the half way mark so i might have missed it.


Deceptions talk in this one don't they always talk from previous movies?

Good luck with bootleg copy you won't be able make much out with it boot leg copies can't make out what is what in dark scenes there are a lot of dark parts you be able tell what is what may as well see it in theater or wait for DVD
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891320)
Posted by Joshimus on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:37pm CDT
So, just saw the movie and want to correct one thing.
The Witwican line is NOT DOA. Edmond Burton says something about the Witwican line ending but finishes with "Well, not yet". So this seems to suggest that Sam is in fact still alive.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891330)
Posted by Randomhero on June 21st, 2017 @ 9:59pm CDT
What happened to Drift? Did he die? He's not with everyone at the end in the group shot saying farewell
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891332)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 21st, 2017 @ 10:06pm CDT
Joshimus wrote:So, just saw the movie and want to correct one thing.
The Witwican line is NOT DOA. Edmond Burton says something about the Witwican line ending but finishes with "Well, not yet". So this seems to suggest that Sam is in fact still alive.
He was not talking about Sam. He was referring to himself. He was old but not dead yet.

And that review was WAAAAAAAAY too long. 2/3 of it was totally unnecessary.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891336)
Posted by Va'al on June 21st, 2017 @ 10:26pm CDT
There will be another set of reviews coming through as soon as we have a staff round-up, and of course the Twincast special episode! :D
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891338)
Posted by Joshimus on June 21st, 2017 @ 10:32pm CDT
You could be right, maybe he did mean himself, or maybe he didn't. It does leave it open that perhaps Sam is still around, which unless someone specifically went out to murder him and his family, I don't see how he can be dead.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891341)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 21st, 2017 @ 10:41pm CDT
Saw it tonight. Non-spoiler version: this is probably the best movie out of the five, without hyperbole. I liked it so much that it made me go out and finally get Voyager Optimus and Beserker on my way home, and I was slightly ambivalent about getting them before. Age of Extinction made me want Hound so bad, and now The Last Knight makes me want Cogman just as badly, if not more.

Spoiler-version: Things I liked and got excited about:

*Cogman. Literally the best thing ever. Dude had me rolling every time he showed up. If he doesn't show up in the next one, my hope in humanity will be dashed.

*Unicron: he's finally been name-dropped in the movie universe! Kinda expected him to get mentioned somewhere, but wasn't expecting a Prime reference in that he turns out to be Earth. And that post-credit scene absolutely sets up the next one, nobody deny it.

*The Nemesis Prime name-drop. Now I wish they'd revise the Shadow Spark Optimus Prime packaging to reflect that.

*The WWII scene; as a history major, this was what I was waiting for. I really hope we see toys based on Bumblebee and Hot Rod's WWII designs.

*The Decepticons; finally! The main ones have personalities! Mohawk retool of Hunt for the Decepticons Brimstone, pls.

*All the references to the previous movies: Simmons; the Ark during the Moon's destruction; the Pyramid still slightly destroyed from Devastator in Revenge of the Fallen; Starscream's head (Megatron even goes Hamlet on it); Viviane name-dropping Shockwave and Soundwave when she gets kidnapped by Hot Rod; even Sam Witwicky gets a small nod.

And a few things I didn't like about it;

*Cogman; despite him being my favorite thing about the movie, he never transformed and combined with the Aston Martin like they pre-movie hype led us to believe. Was very disappointed, but optimistic that it might happen in the next one.

*Dinobots; once again, they get shafted as far as screen time is concerned. I wasn't happy that they showed up for less time than Age of Extinction, and they never even transformed.
Kinda irritated about it, but whatevs I guess.

*The Decepticons; wished they had survived to see the end, especially Nitro.

*The Knights of Cybertron: kinda irritated how it takes all twelve for them to combine into Dragonstorm, yet the upcoming Leader-class figure only breaks down into two. I get that it would be a nightmare to engineer a twelve-bot dragon combiner, but still.

*To a lesser degree, Hot Rod's gun. No further comments.

All in all, this movie did a lot more right than all the others. Thinking about the previous ones, I didn't really have a favorite; the first one was my least favorite, then the next three kinda were tied. They never beat each other out because they all had an equal amount of things I liked and disliked. But The Last Knight? To me, it unquestionably had more right than wrong. Definitely the most Transformer-y of the franchise. I think we're finally getting on the right track as far as Transformers movies are concerned, and I've regained my confidence in the movies.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891352)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2017 @ 11:28pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:What happened to Drift? Did he die? He's not with everyone at the end in the group shot saying farewell

I couldn't figure out what happened to Drift either, but I sort of think he ended up at the knight ship. After all, he said he was flying this time, and was not letting Hound near the controls, so maybe he went to get the ship
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891358)
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 21st, 2017 @ 11:38pm CDT
Did you say this movie "regained your confidence"?!!!!
You must be smoking energon at its purest form....
This movie bounced around in a horrific way, not to mention, other than the 5 to 7 decepticons, who in the hell were the army guys shooting at when cybertron was colliding with earth? How did "galvatron" turn back to Megatron, or are those 2 different robots? Why was gridlock even in the movie? Just for that one commercial everyone has seen?... how did bumble bee get to reassemble himself? There are WAY too many questions left. This was just a pile of explosions with robots. This franchise should have just been called GoBots.
The only thing this movie "regained" was to definitely stay away from ANY thing transformers that Bay puts out.
To a millineal, this was probably a great movie and im pushing the envelope saying that. Pure garbage
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891360)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2017 @ 11:41pm CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:To a millineal, this was probably a great movie and im pushing the envelope saying that. Pure garbage

>:oP

Yep, moving on here
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891363)
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 21st, 2017 @ 11:54pm CDT
You might wanna jump to YouTube and check the reviews aswell... trash... Sorry if you are a millineal
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891365)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:13am CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:You might wanna jump to YouTube and check the reviews aswell... trash... Sorry if you are a millineal


What part of the bills shall you or the critics pay? Because it seems to me you want in on my life if you're telling me how I should think. If I like the movie enough that it gives me hope that the next ones will be good, then so be it. Like Generation One didn't have loads of plot holes and errors? Of course not, because it was the original and can literally do no wrong./sarcasm

I'm not even going to touch the millennial thing. >:oP
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891366)
Posted by G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:16am CDT
Are you on meth?
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891367)
Posted by Deadput on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:20am CDT
G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Are you on meth?

Are you?

It's called opinions people can have them and honestly I enjoyed this film a lot especially the first hour which was just like an episode of the G1 cartoon if it was more mature.
Re: Full Review of Transformers: The Last Knight, with Spoilers (1891368)
Posted by Deadput on June 22nd, 2017 @ 12:21am CDT
Also for those wondering where the heck Drift is he's the one flying the Knight ship there is hand waved dialogue that was kinda hard to hear but I always pay attention to the sounds and voice lines in the movies.

But what's up with the random Scrapper clone in the Junkyard right when the TRF and the Decepticons show up? Hope it's explained later in either movie 6, interviews or concept art.

Edit: Although it really should of been handled better the obvious reason that Barricade was not in the final battle after stone hedge is because he can't fly like Megatron and Nitro can so this either means he was killed off screen by the military or he was able to escape like he always does.

I'm going with the latter and I think it's intentional as a reference to his fate in the 2007 movie.

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