Generations Dirge Is Coming - More Revealed Via Wal*Mart Computers

King Henrik wrote:seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

Blurrz wrote:

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

Thundercracker, I think not. We're getting Generations Thrust. Dirge and Red Alert, but those are Henkei molds that Hasbro is trying to cash in on. I'd actually be surprised if Hasbro pulls out the Cracker.

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Interesting.. They will be the like the other ones, main bot transforms and the appendages are drones.

It would be nice if they were like old school gestalts where all the limbs transformed.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

Thundercracker, I think not. We're getting Generations Thrust. Dirge and Red Alert, but those are Henkei molds that Hasbro is trying to cash in on. I'd actually be surprised if Hasbro pulls out the Cracker.

Isn't Red Alert just the same mold as Sideswipe? He even has Universe Prowl's lights and not Henkei Red Alert's lights.

I dunno, I'm choosing to have hope for Thundercracker.

generalstratton wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Blurrz wrote:

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

Thundercracker, I think not. We're getting Generations Thrust. Dirge and Red Alert, but those are Henkei molds that Hasbro is trying to cash in on. I'd actually be surprised if Hasbro pulls out the Cracker.

Isn't Red Alert just the same mold as Sideswipe? He even has Universe Prowl's lights and not Henkei Red Alert's lights.

I dunno, I'm choosing to have hope for Thundercracker.

Well supposedly the Botcon cone heads won't go down in value because, they are different molds (Wasn't Botcon Dirge just a repaint of ramjet?) but in the case of Thundercracker, i cannot see them getting away with that.

But i did notice the Botcon Thundercracker was very G1 accurate for Paint Job, much like the universe (classics 2.0) Starscream. So if they do re-issue Thundercracker, i hope they give him a stylized paint job, similar to the original classics (1.0) Starscream the mold is from.

This was we can still get our complete set of seekers, but the Botcon one still retains some value.

Blurrz wrote:

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

Thundercracker, I think not. We're getting Generations Thrust. Dirge and Red Alert, but those are Henkei molds that Hasbro is trying to cash in on. I'd actually be surprised if Hasbro pulls out the Cracker.

kirbenvost wrote:What did I just say? I knew it!

Bring on Thundercracker!

Sodan-1 wrote:I actually prefer Hasbro's Ramjet and Thrust to the Takara versions, so I'll probably like this one too. But having already payed crazy money for Henkei Thrust and Dirge I'll probably give them a miss. Shame.

I'm really hoping this isn't what Hasbro meant when they said they'd be returning to the Classics line in 2010. Dirge, Thrust and Red Alert; three remolds of the most used figures in the series. And Darkmount/Straxus and Drift; characters who have never before had a figure, so can they claim to be recapturing the magic of the 80s which was why the Classics line was spawned. Don't get me wrong, they're all great figures (I've got Darkmount and Drift on pre-order), I just hope these five are not IT for 2010.

emeraldbeacon wrote:If people are so set on getting a Thundercracker AND still keeping the GoD set unique, why not have a "anime/cartoon coloration" version? Make him powder blue instead of navy. Easy fix to make the resulting figure notably different from the BotCon version, while having a major character available to the masses.

--B-- wrote:Well, they said that Generations is going to be an ongoing line, so hopefully the profits from these 6) new molds (counting WFC Prime, BB, Megs, and Soundwave) and the cheaper to make repaints, will give us some other new molds in the future. At least we are getting new molds, not like the original Universe line which was strictly repaints.

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

genozaur wrote:

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

HA HA LOL LMAO BOY DOES IT SUCK TO BE YOU BUDDY

574R5CR34M wrote:The more I hear about the Generations line, the more excited I get. Haven't been this pumped for a line in a while. Even the PCC's are starting to grow on me. Bring on all these awesome toys! I miss being excited about heading back to the toy department at Wal-Mart. I can' tell you how long its been that I've gloomly walked back with no hopes at all only to find 35 Tuner Mudflaps (seriously they have NOTHING else), some Bumblebee helmets and a bunch of Fast Action Battlers. It has been MONTHS. So let's get these toys out on shelves so they can be on mine!

Agamemnon wrote:

emeraldbeacon wrote:If people are so set on getting a Thundercracker AND still keeping the GoD set unique, why not have a "anime/cartoon coloration" version? Make him powder blue instead of navy. Easy fix to make the resulting figure notably different from the BotCon version, while having a major character available to the masses.

Based on the pictures (I spend a lot on Transformers, but have not purchased the Botcon set so I cannot say for sure) it looks like the Botcon set is more of a powder blue. It's why I suggested going darker blue to match closer to the G1 toy.

--B-- wrote:Well, they said that Generations is going to be an ongoing line, so hopefully the profits from these 6) new molds (counting WFC Prime, BB, Megs, and Soundwave) and the cheaper to make repaints, will give us some other new molds in the future. At least we are getting new molds, not like the original Universe line which was strictly repaints.

With TF3 and the new Cartoon, Prime I'm pretty sure the Generations line is just a placeholder. Something to get us to Christmas. I'm not expecting much except, perhaps, some more toys from the War for Cybertron game.

Which makes me wonder. Any possibility that Dirge is actually a WfC mold and not Classics? We should see a Starscream first, correct?

amcgrath929 wrote:Yeah, i think this is still great news. The guys that purchased the GoD set, yeah you paid 300 dollars, but you have had the set for FOUR long years now. That is four years I've got to look at pictures of him and follow 80-100 dollar henkei Dirges on eBay. This shouldn't dampen the value at all. Now the general community can pick up a classics style Dirge, but it is still only a Generations toy, not a Botcon exclusive.

Agamemnon wrote: Any possibility that Dirge is actually a WfC mold and not Classics? We should see a Starscream first, correct?

Blurrz wrote:

King Henrik wrote:great one more thing making us games of deception owners look like chumps for paying 300 for 60 worth of figures... i could tolerate the japanese releases, but seriously how long before they make a thundercracker too?

Thundercracker, I think not. We're getting Generations Thrust. Dirge and Red Alert, but those are Henkei molds that Hasbro is trying to cash in on. I'd actually be surprised if Hasbro pulls out the Cracker.

--B-- wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

--B-- wrote:Well, they said that Generations is going to be an ongoing line, so hopefully the profits from these 6) new molds (counting WFC Prime, BB, Megs, and Soundwave) and the cheaper to make repaints, will give us some other new molds in the future. At least we are getting new molds, not like the original Universe line which was strictly repaints.

With TF3 and the new Cartoon, Prime I'm pretty sure the Generations line is just a placeholder. Something to get us to Christmas. I'm not expecting much except, perhaps, some more toys from the War for Cybertron game.

Which makes me wonder. Any possibility that Dirge is actually a WfC mold and not Classics? We should see a Starscream first, correct?

Hasbro said Generations would be on-going and NOT a placeholder/filler line.

El Duque wrote:

amcgrath929 wrote:Yeah, i think this is still great news. The guys that purchased the GoD set, yeah you paid 300 dollars, but you have had the set for FOUR long years now. That is four years I've got to look at pictures of him and follow 80-100 dollar henkei Dirges on eBay. This shouldn't dampen the value at all. Now the general community can pick up a classics style Dirge, but it is still only a Generations toy, not a Botcon exclusive.

I agree with this. I purchased the Botcon set, and while I will admit I was initially upset by the Takara releases I do acknowledge that I got to enjoy these figures for years before others which still makes them worth the the $279.00 I paid for the Iacon set. It will however reduce to value of the Botcon figures and the Henkei figures for that matter. They didn't skyrocket in price because they were Botcon exclusives, they skyrocketed because they were Classics representations of characters fans wanted. Anytime a new cheaper alternative comes along it can't help but reduce the demand and thus the value of those who came before them. If I didn't already have these figures and I was in the market for them I wouldn't pay a higher price just to get the Botcon version, in fact I wouldn't give two sh*ts about the Botcon versions at this point. I do plan on getting Generations Dirge for the remolded wings even though I already have Botcon Dirge. Actually Botcon Dirge will probably go into storage now.

Amelie wrote:Why are we all so excited by Dirge for gods sake? We've seen him - we know pretty much what he'll look like. Blurr, on the other hand is getting a remold from Drift - that is exciting.