Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens)
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The upcoming Studio Series 86 Optimus Prime being a whole new Optimus mold, brings him much taller than pre existing CHUG Optimus toys. And this made fans wonder if it meant we’d get a new mold for Rodimus Prime as well.
The answer is no, there won’t be a new mold. IF we ever get a SS86 Rodimus Prime, it would be a redeco of the previous commander toy, or a slight retool of that toy.
This was confirmed by Evan Brooks, one of Hasbro’s designers for the Studio Series line. He also stated that once the SS86 subline/collection is complete, they could fill that void with a comic inspired subline. This was a response to a question asked by TFW’s IronWaveJRG.
Of course none of this confirms that we are getting an SS86 Rodimus or comic inspired toys soon, this is just to set expectations as to what you won’t be getting in case some thought a fully new Optimus meant a fully new Rodimus.
The answer is no, there won’t be a new mold. IF we ever get a SS86 Rodimus Prime, it would be a redeco of the previous commander toy, or a slight retool of that toy.
This was confirmed by Evan Brooks, one of Hasbro’s designers for the Studio Series line. He also stated that once the SS86 subline/collection is complete, they could fill that void with a comic inspired subline. This was a response to a question asked by TFW’s IronWaveJRG.
Of course none of this confirms that we are getting an SS86 Rodimus or comic inspired toys soon, this is just to set expectations as to what you won’t be getting in case some thought a fully new Optimus meant a fully new Rodimus.
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Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183031)
Posted by cloudballoon on August 5th, 2024 @ 2:55pm CDT
Posted by cloudballoon on August 5th, 2024 @ 2:55pm CDT
Not surprised nor disappointed for the "possible" SS86 Rodimus Prime. The existing Commander figure is already pretty hard to beat, yet it shelfwarmed quite a bit in many areas & online. So I don't think there's much of a case for Hasbro to do a redeco/retool, much less for a new mold.
My major problem with it is really only some tabbing and weapon storage issues with the trailer, I doubt those issues justify for shelling out another Commander-class money for a replacement. But a trailer-less Voyager/Leader retool for a proper Rodimus Unicronus? Absolutely!
My major problem with it is really only some tabbing and weapon storage issues with the trailer, I doubt those issues justify for shelling out another Commander-class money for a replacement. But a trailer-less Voyager/Leader retool for a proper Rodimus Unicronus? Absolutely!
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183032)
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 5th, 2024 @ 2:58pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 5th, 2024 @ 2:58pm CDT
So in other words, stick with the already fine Kingdom one? Sounds good to me
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183044)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 5th, 2024 @ 4:55pm CDT
People were expecting all sorts of repaints of the CW release that never came.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 5th, 2024 @ 4:55pm CDT
SGMLordMirage wrote:A G2 orange Devastator would be cool to have.
SGM
People were expecting all sorts of repaints of the CW release that never came.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183048)
Posted by o.supreme on August 5th, 2024 @ 5:59pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 5th, 2024 @ 5:59pm CDT
I've said this many times. We all knew the Kingdom toys that came out in 2021 that were based on characters from TF:TM were "SS86" in spirit, but just couldn't fit in the line that year for the films 35th anniversary. I didn't imagine back then though, Hasbro would try to re-insert them all into the SS86 line proper, but indeed it appears they are (Some getting new toys like Optimus, some getting retools like Springer, and some just getting a new paint deco like Blaster). I would be shocked if the CC for SS86 in 2026 wasn't a slight redeco of Kingdom RP for the films 40th anniversary. If they play things out right, they may be able to get most of the characters that appeared in TF:TM don't by the end of 2026, and so the SS86 subline would be essentially "finished".
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183053)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:25pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:25pm CDT
Unfortunately this new Devastator is not going to scale well with the Dinobots. But for me, if this set is overall better in terms of individual figures, & a really solid combined form, then I’ll be good.
I’m not sure about a reissue or retooled RP…. I won’t get it no matter what, especially if it’s $90-$100.
No way no day.
I’ve brought it up before, but I really don’t know what the plan is to “celebrate” the 40th anniversary of the ’86 movie…. I won’t throw-out my speculations again in this post. But there isn’t much of anything left to make/release.
I really would have thought Megatron, Devy, & even the CC Optimus would’ve been held back for ‘26…
I’m fully prepared for a half-a$$ed group of reissues/repaints…. And from there, it will just depend on these “movie appearances” as to whether or not I bite.
Kup, Cliffjumper, Arcee, Ironhide, Blaster, & Springer all made the cut for me. I’m assuming Galvatron will as well.
Not sure I’d go for repainted Insecticons or not…. The Legacy versions are pretty solid.
I’ve already started thinking that next year will really be my last for collecting…. I’ll keep an eye on what’s happening for ‘26, but I’m not expecting much. Although it’ll be interesting to see if Hastak continues with combiners.
I’m not sure about a reissue or retooled RP…. I won’t get it no matter what, especially if it’s $90-$100.
No way no day.
I’ve brought it up before, but I really don’t know what the plan is to “celebrate” the 40th anniversary of the ’86 movie…. I won’t throw-out my speculations again in this post. But there isn’t much of anything left to make/release.
I really would have thought Megatron, Devy, & even the CC Optimus would’ve been held back for ‘26…
I’m fully prepared for a half-a$$ed group of reissues/repaints…. And from there, it will just depend on these “movie appearances” as to whether or not I bite.
Kup, Cliffjumper, Arcee, Ironhide, Blaster, & Springer all made the cut for me. I’m assuming Galvatron will as well.
Not sure I’d go for repainted Insecticons or not…. The Legacy versions are pretty solid.
I’ve already started thinking that next year will really be my last for collecting…. I’ll keep an eye on what’s happening for ‘26, but I’m not expecting much. Although it’ll be interesting to see if Hastak continues with combiners.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183055)
Posted by ScottyP on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:27pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:27pm CDT
Yeah scale can be fun, but vibes > scale probably matters more once we start getting into extremes like Combiners.Rtron wrote:
Lol, that last paragraph is why I never get the obsession with precise scale, specially when it comes to G1 toys. The show and comics themselves didn't have any scale beyond "this guy is USUALLY bigger than this other guy, and how much taller he is will change scene to scene". I get there's charts and stuff, but evidently those were barely followed in practice.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183070)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 6th, 2024 @ 7:27am CDT
I am still OK with not getting the repaint, I don't need the G1 style again. If I get the G2 cool, if not, no big deal.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 6th, 2024 @ 7:27am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:SGMLordMirage wrote:A G2 orange Devastator would be cool to have.
SGM
People were expecting all sorts of repaints of the CW release that never came.
I am still OK with not getting the repaint, I don't need the G1 style again. If I get the G2 cool, if not, no big deal.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183074)
Posted by First-Aid on August 6th, 2024 @ 8:18am CDT
Actually he SHOULD scale well with the Dinobots. If you really want to nitpick, Megatron in bot mode comes to about the waistline (maybe a bit lower). When Dev is on the ground, Slag is nearly as long as Devs is tall. Sludge IS that tall. That makes the CW version TOO BIG for "proper" scale from the 86 movie. 12-13 inches is about right.
Posted by First-Aid on August 6th, 2024 @ 8:18am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Yeah scale can be fun, but vibes > scale probably matters more once we start getting into extremes like Combiners.Rtron wrote:
Lol, that last paragraph is why I never get the obsession with precise scale, specially when it comes to G1 toys. The show and comics themselves didn't have any scale beyond "this guy is USUALLY bigger than this other guy, and how much taller he is will change scene to scene". I get there's charts and stuff, but evidently those were barely followed in practice.
Actually he SHOULD scale well with the Dinobots. If you really want to nitpick, Megatron in bot mode comes to about the waistline (maybe a bit lower). When Dev is on the ground, Slag is nearly as long as Devs is tall. Sludge IS that tall. That makes the CW version TOO BIG for "proper" scale from the 86 movie. 12-13 inches is about right.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183078)
Posted by Emerje on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:44am CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:44am CDT
I'm thinking If they do add some minor retooling to Kingdom Rodimus for SS86 it'll be entirely in the figure since the trailer really doesn't need any changes. I think changing the head to be more like the cartoon, the backpack so it blends better stylistically with with the trailer and a more cartoon-like back wing. I think some of the greebling like on the arms and legs can be overlooked.
About the Constructicons and Dinobots, I'm not concerned about the scale since, if what TFSource said is actually true, this is the scale they're going for:
Anybody got Sludge and Legacy Menasor handy?
Emerje
About the Constructicons and Dinobots, I'm not concerned about the scale since, if what TFSource said is actually true, this is the scale they're going for:
Anybody got Sludge and Legacy Menasor handy?
Emerje
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183092)
Posted by Slashercon on August 6th, 2024 @ 2:37pm CDT
Posted by Slashercon on August 6th, 2024 @ 2:37pm CDT
Don't mind the minor mess in the background. Anyway, I personally wish all the combiner's were closer to POTP Predaking's size, but that's neither here or there. Speaking solely on Devestator, as long as he's even a tiny bit taller than Menasor, I think the scale as pictured should work just fine.Emerje wrote:I'm thinking If they do add some minor retooling to Kingdom Rodimus for SS86 it'll be entirely in the figure since the trailer really doesn't need any changes. I think changing the head to be more like the cartoon, the backpack so it blends better stylistically with with the trailer and a more cartoon-like back wing. I think some of the greebling like on the arms and legs can be overlooked.
About the Constructicons and Dinobots, I'm not concerned about the scale since, if what TFSource said is actually true, this is the scale they're going for:
Anybody got Sludge and Legacy Menasor handy?
Emerje
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183094)
Posted by o.supreme on August 6th, 2024 @ 3:12pm CDT
Scale has always been tricky with TF's. I think when CW came out in 2015, the scale of the Combiners was a fair representation of the time. Hoever since WFC things have started upscaling. Minibots & Insecticons for instance that were once Legends/Core class are now deluxes. Many characters previously scaled as Deluxe are now Voyagers etc.... So NOW a decade later CW/UW Dev & PotP Predaking are more in-line with the modern take, then they were when they were first released....
However as someone who owns all the Combiners from the CW/UW/PotP era (30+) I'm not about to throw all that away. I was almost certain SS86 Dev was going to be as big or BIGGER than CW/UW (its certainly more expensive
). If anything I might get SS86 if its basically the same size as Legacy Menasor, then I can finally replace the KO CW Dev I've had for the past few years. Id still want a Predaking at that 12-14 inch scale, but first things first (Id also want all the unmade combiners in my wish list at that scale as well)
Posted by o.supreme on August 6th, 2024 @ 3:12pm CDT
Slashercon wrote:I personally wish all the combiner's were closer to POTP Predaking's size, but that's neither here or there. Speaking solely on Devestator, as long as he's even a tiny bit taller than Menasor, I think the scale as pictured should work just fine.
Scale has always been tricky with TF's. I think when CW came out in 2015, the scale of the Combiners was a fair representation of the time. Hoever since WFC things have started upscaling. Minibots & Insecticons for instance that were once Legends/Core class are now deluxes. Many characters previously scaled as Deluxe are now Voyagers etc.... So NOW a decade later CW/UW Dev & PotP Predaking are more in-line with the modern take, then they were when they were first released....
However as someone who owns all the Combiners from the CW/UW/PotP era (30+) I'm not about to throw all that away. I was almost certain SS86 Dev was going to be as big or BIGGER than CW/UW (its certainly more expensive
). If anything I might get SS86 if its basically the same size as Legacy Menasor, then I can finally replace the KO CW Dev I've had for the past few years. Id still want a Predaking at that 12-14 inch scale, but first things first (Id also want all the unmade combiners in my wish list at that scale as well)
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:44pm CDT
I don't think you're looking at the scenes and the perspective quite right... Megatron is not close to Devy's waistline (neither is any other Decepticon); it's that Megatron is closer to the foreground. There's a part where Shrapnel looks huge, but that's because he's even closer to the foreground than Megatron.
Slag only looks that large after knocking Devastator down because Devastator is sitting, and to make this look right, that means that his torso appears shorter since this is drawn from a high angle (or bird's eye view). In the drawing/2D biz we call this foreshortening.
I personally think the Dinobots have been drawn too big, and that's the mistake in these scenes.
Sure, based on the movie, a 12"-13" Devy is "correct" relative to the SS86 Dinobot figures.
But a combined form at that height is still going to be much too small compared to basically every other figure, whether it's ER Starscream, Legacy Soundwave, or even any of the minibots.
Most voyagers at 6.5" would reach Devastator's waist if he's 12"-13", making him too small. In the movie and in the character scale charts, even OP and Megatron only reach the top of Devy's lower leg.
For me, the CW version does scale really nicely with the mainline figures. Unfortunately, that height isn't going to happen with this SS86 version. I highly doubt he's going to be more than 2 inches taller than Legacy Menasor. I mean I hope he is, but I believe that's wishful thinking.
I know one of the focuses of SS86 is scale, but of course it's not always happening as well as most would like. Look at Arcee being so small.. Actually I'd say Hot Rod, Kup, and Blurr are also too small. And Ultra Magnus is too big.
I knew CC Prime would be bigger than the ER figure, but I thought Hastak would make SS86 Springer match this since he's supposed to be a beefcake and just about as big as OP.
Back to Devy, assuming he's done really well, including the individual figures, I'll be very okay if the combined form is a bit small.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:44pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:ScottyP wrote:Yeah scale can be fun, but vibes > scale probably matters more once we start getting into extremes like Combiners.Rtron wrote:
Lol, that last paragraph is why I never get the obsession with precise scale, specially when it comes to G1 toys. The show and comics themselves didn't have any scale beyond "this guy is USUALLY bigger than this other guy, and how much taller he is will change scene to scene". I get there's charts and stuff, but evidently those were barely followed in practice.
Actually he SHOULD scale well with the Dinobots. If you really want to nitpick, Megatron in bot mode comes to about the waistline (maybe a bit lower). When Dev is on the ground, Slag is nearly as long as Devs is tall. Sludge IS that tall. That makes the CW version TOO BIG for "proper" scale from the 86 movie. 12-13 inches is about right.
I don't think you're looking at the scenes and the perspective quite right... Megatron is not close to Devy's waistline (neither is any other Decepticon); it's that Megatron is closer to the foreground. There's a part where Shrapnel looks huge, but that's because he's even closer to the foreground than Megatron.
Slag only looks that large after knocking Devastator down because Devastator is sitting, and to make this look right, that means that his torso appears shorter since this is drawn from a high angle (or bird's eye view). In the drawing/2D biz we call this foreshortening.
I personally think the Dinobots have been drawn too big, and that's the mistake in these scenes.
Sure, based on the movie, a 12"-13" Devy is "correct" relative to the SS86 Dinobot figures.
But a combined form at that height is still going to be much too small compared to basically every other figure, whether it's ER Starscream, Legacy Soundwave, or even any of the minibots.
Most voyagers at 6.5" would reach Devastator's waist if he's 12"-13", making him too small. In the movie and in the character scale charts, even OP and Megatron only reach the top of Devy's lower leg.
For me, the CW version does scale really nicely with the mainline figures. Unfortunately, that height isn't going to happen with this SS86 version. I highly doubt he's going to be more than 2 inches taller than Legacy Menasor. I mean I hope he is, but I believe that's wishful thinking.
I know one of the focuses of SS86 is scale, but of course it's not always happening as well as most would like. Look at Arcee being so small.. Actually I'd say Hot Rod, Kup, and Blurr are also too small. And Ultra Magnus is too big.
I knew CC Prime would be bigger than the ER figure, but I thought Hastak would make SS86 Springer match this since he's supposed to be a beefcake and just about as big as OP.
Back to Devy, assuming he's done really well, including the individual figures, I'll be very okay if the combined form is a bit small.
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:53pm CDT
My, how the tables have turned.
When CW Devastator came out, people complained that he was too big and out of scale with all of the other Combiners.
Now that we get word of this SS86 Devastator being in scale with his fellow Combiners, people are saying that he should be much bigger than them.
When CW Devastator came out, people complained that he was too big and out of scale with all of the other Combiners.
Now that we get word of this SS86 Devastator being in scale with his fellow Combiners, people are saying that he should be much bigger than them.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183110)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 6th, 2024 @ 11:55pm CDT
Personally, I liked CW Devy as he was, and I did move him to my TF:TM shelf as he scales well with the Dinobots and hopefully in the future with Megatron. This new Devastator will move over to my comics shelf and will represent the Marvel version, Even though he was quite gigantic in there as well.
I'm glad we're getting this new set, I just don't believe he should be labeled SS86. We could have gotten a CW rerelease in SS86 packaging and it would have been fine. Either as individual releases or the 1st SS86 Titan. Or maybe give us the UW version, which comes with the individual weapons and better deco. Either way, that Devastator goes for crazy prices on the 2ndary market and a reissue would've helped out a lot of fans.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 6th, 2024 @ 11:55pm CDT
Because SS86 is supposed to represent the TF:TM version, which needs to scale to the Dinobots mainly. I know we'll never get a big enough Astrotrain to fit everyone into, but if there are characters made using the SS86 label, at least make them accurate to the screen characters they supposed to represent.Sabrblade wrote:My, how the tables have turned.
When CW Devastator came out, people complained that he was too big and out of scale with all of the other Combiners.
Now that we get word of this SS86 Devastator being in scale with his fellow Combiners, people are saying that he should be much bigger than them.
Personally, I liked CW Devy as he was, and I did move him to my TF:TM shelf as he scales well with the Dinobots and hopefully in the future with Megatron. This new Devastator will move over to my comics shelf and will represent the Marvel version, Even though he was quite gigantic in there as well.
I'm glad we're getting this new set, I just don't believe he should be labeled SS86. We could have gotten a CW rerelease in SS86 packaging and it would have been fine. Either as individual releases or the 1st SS86 Titan. Or maybe give us the UW version, which comes with the individual weapons and better deco. Either way, that Devastator goes for crazy prices on the 2ndary market and a reissue would've helped out a lot of fans.
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:04am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:04am CDT
The thing about the combiners in the G1 cartoon is that they were all larger than the sum of their individual parts. All six individual Constructicons were smaller than Optimus Prime in their robot modes, yet just one of Devastator's hands was large enough to fully wrap all five fingers around the lower half of Optimus's body.
In other words, the Combiners were all size-changers, which is something that is impossible to replicate in toy form due to the Law of Conservation of Mass.
In other words, the Combiners were all size-changers, which is something that is impossible to replicate in toy form due to the Law of Conservation of Mass.
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Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:25am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:25am CDT
Damnation....since I plan to pick up OP I think I may need to part ways with ALL my leader class Primes. No doubt we will get some repaints from our '86 guy.
I for one am not a fan that collects every figure under the sun so we'll see what comes after the figures release.
I for one am not a fan that collects every figure under the sun so we'll see what comes after the figures release.
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Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:36am CDT
I hate to say it, but even as a kid that bugged me. WHile the ideas of combiners are awesome, the scale and realism were thrown to the wind. How big would Predaking be if the animals were realistically scaled? Good grief, he'd barely reach Prime's height. SUperion vs Menasor? No contest. The average size of the fighters making up Superion are ALL larger than Motormaster's vehicle mode. Interestingly, Silverbolt actually scales well to the other jets in the Aerialbots (the Concorde was over 200 feet long, about three times the length of the other planes which is about what the toy was). Make a combiner out of those and Menasor- with Motormaster's vehicle length of 54 feet and resultant tiny combined size- would be pounded into paste in a hurry by an Autobot monster. The worst offender though is Bruticus. Brawl should easily be twice the size of Swindle and just a little smaller than Vortex. Onslaught could conceivably be semi sized (mid 50 foot length) but...Blast-off? The space shuttle was over 122 feet long, and he made a LIMB? He's longer than Brawl, Swindle, and Onslaught combined (no pun intended...)!
I know...cartoon...suspension of disbelief...defying physics...selling toys...blah blah blah. It still bugs me. I SOOOO want a line focused on the realism and scale of the alt modes (expanded version of Alternators with reduced size) rather than scaling to the bot mode height and making the vehicles fit. The Seekers would be truly powerful as they would be so much bigger than the Autobots, making the Dinobots necessary to match the size. Grimlock in dino mode would be about the same length as a Seeker...(sigh)....I'm going to continue to dream, I guess.
Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The thing about the combiners in the G1 cartoon is that they were all larger than the sum of their individual parts. All six individual Constructicons were smaller than Optimus Prime in their robot modes, yet just one of Devastator's hands was large enough to fully wrap all five fingers around the lower half of Optimus's body.
In other words, the Combiners were all size-changers, which is something that is impossible to replicate in toy form due to the Law of Conservation of Mass.
I hate to say it, but even as a kid that bugged me. WHile the ideas of combiners are awesome, the scale and realism were thrown to the wind. How big would Predaking be if the animals were realistically scaled? Good grief, he'd barely reach Prime's height. SUperion vs Menasor? No contest. The average size of the fighters making up Superion are ALL larger than Motormaster's vehicle mode. Interestingly, Silverbolt actually scales well to the other jets in the Aerialbots (the Concorde was over 200 feet long, about three times the length of the other planes which is about what the toy was). Make a combiner out of those and Menasor- with Motormaster's vehicle length of 54 feet and resultant tiny combined size- would be pounded into paste in a hurry by an Autobot monster. The worst offender though is Bruticus. Brawl should easily be twice the size of Swindle and just a little smaller than Vortex. Onslaught could conceivably be semi sized (mid 50 foot length) but...Blast-off? The space shuttle was over 122 feet long, and he made a LIMB? He's longer than Brawl, Swindle, and Onslaught combined (no pun intended...)!
I know...cartoon...suspension of disbelief...defying physics...selling toys...blah blah blah. It still bugs me. I SOOOO want a line focused on the realism and scale of the alt modes (expanded version of Alternators with reduced size) rather than scaling to the bot mode height and making the vehicles fit. The Seekers would be truly powerful as they would be so much bigger than the Autobots, making the Dinobots necessary to match the size. Grimlock in dino mode would be about the same length as a Seeker...(sigh)....I'm going to continue to dream, I guess.
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:41am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:41am CDT
First-Aid wrote:The worst offender though is Bruticus. Brawl should easily be twice the size of Swindle and just a little smaller than Vortex. Onslaught could conceivably be semi sized (mid 50 foot length) but...Blast-off? The space shuttle was over 122 feet long, and he made a LIMB? He's longer than Brawl, Swindle, and Onslaught combined (no pun intended...)!
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 7th, 2024 @ 6:30am CDT
i have said this the whole time, at least for me, the tables have still not turned.
And that said, I prefer to prioritize combiner size, not individuals
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 7th, 2024 @ 6:30am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:My, how the tables have turned.
When CW Devastator came out, people complained that he was too big and out of scale with all of the other Combiners.
Now that we get word of this SS86 Devastator being in scale with his fellow Combiners, people are saying that he should be much bigger than them.
i have said this the whole time, at least for me, the tables have still not turned.
And that said, I prefer to prioritize combiner size, not individuals
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Posted by Rtron on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:27am CDT
Alternators with more varied vehicles would be so cool. But it would require Hasbro to make new character designs, and they don't seem to be fond of that right now.
Posted by Rtron on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:27am CDT
First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The thing about the combiners in the G1 cartoon is that they were all larger than the sum of their individual parts. All six individual Constructicons were smaller than Optimus Prime in their robot modes, yet just one of Devastator's hands was large enough to fully wrap all five fingers around the lower half of Optimus's body.
In other words, the Combiners were all size-changers, which is something that is impossible to replicate in toy form due to the Law of Conservation of Mass.
I hate to say it, but even as a kid that bugged me. WHile the ideas of combiners are awesome, the scale and realism were thrown to the wind. How big would Predaking be if the animals were realistically scaled? Good grief, he'd barely reach Prime's height. SUperion vs Menasor? No contest. The average size of the fighters making up Superion are ALL larger than Motormaster's vehicle mode. Interestingly, Silverbolt actually scales well to the other jets in the Aerialbots (the Concorde was over 200 feet long, about three times the length of the other planes which is about what the toy was). Make a combiner out of those and Menasor- with Motormaster's vehicle length of 54 feet and resultant tiny combined size- would be pounded into paste in a hurry by an Autobot monster. The worst offender though is Bruticus. Brawl should easily be twice the size of Swindle and just a little smaller than Vortex. Onslaught could conceivably be semi sized (mid 50 foot length) but...Blast-off? The space shuttle was over 122 feet long, and he made a LIMB? He's longer than Brawl, Swindle, and Onslaught combined (no pun intended...)!
I know...cartoon...suspension of disbelief...defying physics...selling toys...blah blah blah. It still bugs me. I SOOOO want a line focused on the realism and scale of the alt modes (expanded version of Alternators with reduced size) rather than scaling to the bot mode height and making the vehicles fit. The Seekers would be truly powerful as they would be so much bigger than the Autobots, making the Dinobots necessary to match the size. Grimlock in dino mode would be about the same length as a Seeker...(sigh)....I'm going to continue to dream, I guess.
Alternators with more varied vehicles would be so cool. But it would require Hasbro to make new character designs, and they don't seem to be fond of that right now.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183125)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:35am CDT
I've never liked CW Devestator's size. I have a couple 3P Devy's to stand with the others. I also have UW Devy, but didn't really like him in hand. So I like that we're getting a new, official Devestator.
Cars should all be deluxes, so Menasor sets the standard.
Cars should all be deluxes, so Menasor sets the standard.
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:39pm CDT
But keep in mind these are two different things...
Because I would probably say both- CW Devy scales well with the mainline figures, which is pretty cool (and I do appreciate how imposing he is).
And yet, I also would've liked it if he scaled better with the other combiners.
For me, the first aspect is what I like and prefer.
It's not necessarily that people want want Devy bigger than the other combiners; it's more that people want him bigger so he scales well with all of the non-combiner figures.
I think it's great that Hastak made the CW version a titan class release. And now, if that never happens again, most people can be okay with it, or at least understand why it's not happening again. At that size if this set was going to be improved, it would be expensive and probably have to be a Haslab Project.
In fact it wasn't that long ago, I was talking with a friend and speculated that the next one would be a huge Devastator that would scale with MP figures. But I'm glad I was wrong; price and collection space most likely would've caused me to miss out, and because this is my favorite combiner, relatively speaking, the sting would've been intense.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 7th, 2024 @ 12:39pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:My, how the tables have turned.
When CW Devastator came out, people complained that he was too big and out of scale with all of the other Combiners.
Now that we get word of this SS86 Devastator being in scale with his fellow Combiners, people are saying that he should be much bigger than them.
But keep in mind these are two different things...
Because I would probably say both- CW Devy scales well with the mainline figures, which is pretty cool (and I do appreciate how imposing he is).
And yet, I also would've liked it if he scaled better with the other combiners.
For me, the first aspect is what I like and prefer.
It's not necessarily that people want want Devy bigger than the other combiners; it's more that people want him bigger so he scales well with all of the non-combiner figures.
I think it's great that Hastak made the CW version a titan class release. And now, if that never happens again, most people can be okay with it, or at least understand why it's not happening again. At that size if this set was going to be improved, it would be expensive and probably have to be a Haslab Project.
In fact it wasn't that long ago, I was talking with a friend and speculated that the next one would be a huge Devastator that would scale with MP figures. But I'm glad I was wrong; price and collection space most likely would've caused me to miss out, and because this is my favorite combiner, relatively speaking, the sting would've been intense.
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 7th, 2024 @ 1:08pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 7th, 2024 @ 1:08pm CDT
I did want to share my thoughts on Swoop.
Starting with the nit-picks...
I do understand why they made this figure smaller than the rest, and overall, this doesn't bother me much. However it does just slightly because imo it is clear that this was in the budget... His wings may be deceiving in terms of the amount of plastic that was used, however, it still seems to me that this was possible. Not to mention, adding height could have been done by adding roughly an inch (probably a little less) to his legs. Swoop is the one Dinobot that can get away with looking a bit more trim... He's not a huge brute like a few of the others, so longer legs would've played into this. Also, this wouldn't have changed much for the Dino mode.
I'm not at all saying that all of these critiques could have been addressed, but a couple others-- at this price point I still think forearm covers could and should have been included.
Next, I do think the wings could have been slightly larger in terms of wingspan, along with another hinge for even more articulation.
Lastly, and this is the least of my nit-picks; the crest crest/peak of the head should have been angle back at least a little bit... In dino mode it's too vertical.
Despite all of that, I still truly appreciate and love this figure.
I'm sure a few people who post here are completely sick of me, including hearing my speculations and my rants about how long it's taken to get these five figures. When my two copies of Swoop arrived, it was truly a glorious day in my realm of collecting.
Swoop was the last figure on my main "wanted" list. Everything else is just icing now. Don't get me wrong, there's stuff left:
SS86 Optimus, Galvatron, Megatron, the Constructicons... But if none of these were happening, I'd be able to "retire" and be completely happy and content.
I'm not going to list off all of the positives about this figure...
But one highlight that I always look for and greatly appreciate is how well the face and head sculpt have been done. For me, it's such an important element/facet.
And lastly, as I predicted, here's a couple rankings:
In terms of the actual figures:
1: Grimlock
2: Snarl
3: Swoop
4: Slag
5: Sludge
In terms of my own preferences:
1: Snarl & Swoop
2: Grimlock
3: Slag and Sludge
I love all five... Of my main line figures, these are the highlight of my collection. Despite my nit-picks with each, Hastak has hit a sweet spot with these guys.
Swoop is my figure of the year, although it will be interesting to see if SS86 Optimus can take this title.
I absolutely love looking at these shelves:
Starting with the nit-picks...
I do understand why they made this figure smaller than the rest, and overall, this doesn't bother me much. However it does just slightly because imo it is clear that this was in the budget... His wings may be deceiving in terms of the amount of plastic that was used, however, it still seems to me that this was possible. Not to mention, adding height could have been done by adding roughly an inch (probably a little less) to his legs. Swoop is the one Dinobot that can get away with looking a bit more trim... He's not a huge brute like a few of the others, so longer legs would've played into this. Also, this wouldn't have changed much for the Dino mode.
I'm not at all saying that all of these critiques could have been addressed, but a couple others-- at this price point I still think forearm covers could and should have been included.
Next, I do think the wings could have been slightly larger in terms of wingspan, along with another hinge for even more articulation.
Lastly, and this is the least of my nit-picks; the crest crest/peak of the head should have been angle back at least a little bit... In dino mode it's too vertical.
Despite all of that, I still truly appreciate and love this figure.
I'm sure a few people who post here are completely sick of me, including hearing my speculations and my rants about how long it's taken to get these five figures. When my two copies of Swoop arrived, it was truly a glorious day in my realm of collecting.
Swoop was the last figure on my main "wanted" list. Everything else is just icing now. Don't get me wrong, there's stuff left:
SS86 Optimus, Galvatron, Megatron, the Constructicons... But if none of these were happening, I'd be able to "retire" and be completely happy and content.
I'm not going to list off all of the positives about this figure...
But one highlight that I always look for and greatly appreciate is how well the face and head sculpt have been done. For me, it's such an important element/facet.
And lastly, as I predicted, here's a couple rankings:
In terms of the actual figures:
1: Grimlock
2: Snarl
3: Swoop
4: Slag
5: Sludge
In terms of my own preferences:
1: Snarl & Swoop
2: Grimlock
3: Slag and Sludge
I love all five... Of my main line figures, these are the highlight of my collection. Despite my nit-picks with each, Hastak has hit a sweet spot with these guys.
Swoop is my figure of the year, although it will be interesting to see if SS86 Optimus can take this title.
I absolutely love looking at these shelves:
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183137)
Posted by o.supreme on August 7th, 2024 @ 1:10pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on August 7th, 2024 @ 1:10pm CDT
Pretty much what I said in my post. When CW first came out in 2015, Generations figures were often scaled smaller. (Except for the Leader class which was just kind of all over the place... 
) Combiners were an ok size (not perfect, but still imposing). In the past decade however Generations has "scaled up" so that CW/UW Dev fits more accurately, especially with SS86.
But make no mistake, like I've always said. I love my UW Dev. He's perfect on the shelf next to Siege Omega Supreme. This new SS86 Dev will *hopefully* scale closer to the older Generations Combiners, and that's fine. Again, I can replace my CW scaled down KO Dev.
) Combiners were an ok size (not perfect, but still imposing). In the past decade however Generations has "scaled up" so that CW/UW Dev fits more accurately, especially with SS86.But make no mistake, like I've always said. I love my UW Dev. He's perfect on the shelf next to Siege Omega Supreme. This new SS86 Dev will *hopefully* scale closer to the older Generations Combiners, and that's fine. Again, I can replace my CW scaled down KO Dev.
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Posted by Hero Alpha on August 7th, 2024 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by Hero Alpha on August 7th, 2024 @ 2:43pm CDT
I have a had a few days with Swoop and Springer and they are both awesome. Swoop is damn near perfect. My only real complaint/nitpick is that the dino head can't look side to side(unless I missed something). Usually I dont fall for the "buy figure, only for better version release 6 months later", but this one was too much better and I had to. Springer is a top 5 character for me. I would have preferred if they had left off a few accessories and filled in the top of the chest around the neck. He doesn't look great from any above angle, a true nitpick, hehe.
On the subject of 86 Devy; I think CW/UW Devy for combined mode and prolly the 86 one for individual Contructicons for near perfect scale. Or a best as. I love new Menasor(mine is 1.5 inches or so taller from add-on kit) scale, but at the same time I prefer my Titan Predaking. To me its ok to have different scaled/tall combiners, depending on alt modes size, individual bot mode sizes,etc. Devastator is another, with Predaking, that I like to be a bit taller combined. With the Predacons I also like how they size closer to the Dinobots. Where the Constructicons in their bot modes are smaller, like I said earlier.
EDIT: Oh, also I just watched PvP review on SS86 Optimus and I am very pleased to see he scales perfect with new Galvatron(and hopefully Super Megatron).
On the subject of 86 Devy; I think CW/UW Devy for combined mode and prolly the 86 one for individual Contructicons for near perfect scale. Or a best as. I love new Menasor(mine is 1.5 inches or so taller from add-on kit) scale, but at the same time I prefer my Titan Predaking. To me its ok to have different scaled/tall combiners, depending on alt modes size, individual bot mode sizes,etc. Devastator is another, with Predaking, that I like to be a bit taller combined. With the Predacons I also like how they size closer to the Dinobots. Where the Constructicons in their bot modes are smaller, like I said earlier.
EDIT: Oh, also I just watched PvP review on SS86 Optimus and I am very pleased to see he scales perfect with new Galvatron(and hopefully Super Megatron).
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Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 4:21pm CDT
Exactly. The Dream Star Aerialbots, though extremely complicated, are a great example of what could be done. The colors are there to identify the bots (as well as the faces), but it's only in specific, non-obtrusive spots and it's the vehicle mode that they focused on. The result is totally badass. The colors of a lot of the altmodes and the colors of the characters (yes, I know...aimed at kids) made no sense (purple space shuttle, white Harrier jet, orange and black eagle, gunmetal and gold dinosaurs, purple and black insects) especially considering the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing (nothing says "I'm in disguise" like a T-rex in downtown New York).
Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 4:21pm CDT
Rtron wrote:
Alternators with more varied vehicles would be so cool. But it would require Hasbro to make new character designs, and they don't seem to be fond of that right now.
Exactly. The Dream Star Aerialbots, though extremely complicated, are a great example of what could be done. The colors are there to identify the bots (as well as the faces), but it's only in specific, non-obtrusive spots and it's the vehicle mode that they focused on. The result is totally badass. The colors of a lot of the altmodes and the colors of the characters (yes, I know...aimed at kids) made no sense (purple space shuttle, white Harrier jet, orange and black eagle, gunmetal and gold dinosaurs, purple and black insects) especially considering the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing (nothing says "I'm in disguise" like a T-rex in downtown New York).
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 4:33pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 4:33pm CDT
In these particular cases, the Dinobots and Insections go back to their Diaclone roots as nonliving mechs piloted by humans (Dinosaur Robo) and aliens (Insecter Robo). Disguise wasn't a factor in the open human vs. alien war of Diaclone.First-Aid wrote:gunmetal and gold dinosaurs, purple and black insects) especially considering the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing (nothing says "I'm in disguise" like a T-rex in downtown New York).
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Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 4:54pm CDT
Totally get that. But Transformers was different. They were SUPPOSED to be in disguise. That's what the little robotic voice said every single episode and every commercial. I'd love to see TRUE disguises. The Bay movies did a few things right (soundtrack, explosions, big explosions). The alt modes were true disguises but managed to fit the characters. Bee's yellow didn't look out of place (let's ignore the Dinobots there). Even Beast Wars was screwy (Barneytron). I'd like to see TRUE disguises.
Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 4:54pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:In these particular cases, the Dinobots and Insections go back to their Diaclone roots as nonliving mechs piloted by humans (Dinosaur Robo) and aliens (Insecter Robo). Disguise wasn't a factor in the open human vs. alien war of Diaclone.First-Aid wrote:gunmetal and gold dinosaurs, purple and black insects) especially considering the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing (nothing says "I'm in disguise" like a T-rex in downtown New York).
Totally get that. But Transformers was different. They were SUPPOSED to be in disguise. That's what the little robotic voice said every single episode and every commercial. I'd love to see TRUE disguises. The Bay movies did a few things right (soundtrack, explosions, big explosions). The alt modes were true disguises but managed to fit the characters. Bee's yellow didn't look out of place (let's ignore the Dinobots there). Even Beast Wars was screwy (Barneytron). I'd like to see TRUE disguises.
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 5:12pm CDT
The Marvel comics attempted to keep the disguises going by having the Dinobots hang back and more often only go on missions that weren't out in the open or in populated sectors (though, one mission to Japan saw their dino modes mistaken by the Japanese for animatronic attractions), and having the Insecticons size-change to shrink down to actual insect size in their altmodes.
As for the Predacons, they just didn't care who saw them in either version, as they were all "kill 'em first, ask questions never" kinds of brutes.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 7th, 2024 @ 5:12pm CDT
Yet, the cartoon mostly did away with that, having them all be known public figures walking around in the open in robot mode, directly interacting with major human figures and authorities, and even participating in public events like parades and such.First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In these particular cases, the Dinobots and Insections go back to their Diaclone roots as nonliving mechs piloted by humans (Dinosaur Robo) and aliens (Insecter Robo). Disguise wasn't a factor in the open human vs. alien war of Diaclone.First-Aid wrote:gunmetal and gold dinosaurs, purple and black insects) especially considering the whole "Robots in Disguise" thing (nothing says "I'm in disguise" like a T-rex in downtown New York).
Totally get that. But Transformers was different. They were SUPPOSED to be in disguise.
The Marvel comics attempted to keep the disguises going by having the Dinobots hang back and more often only go on missions that weren't out in the open or in populated sectors (though, one mission to Japan saw their dino modes mistaken by the Japanese for animatronic attractions), and having the Insecticons size-change to shrink down to actual insect size in their altmodes.
As for the Predacons, they just didn't care who saw them in either version, as they were all "kill 'em first, ask questions never" kinds of brutes.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183153)
Posted by william-james88 on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:51pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 7th, 2024 @ 8:51pm CDT
Studio Series 86 Commander Class Optimus Prime was released in Hong Kong recently to anyone who attended their show. While some fans got their hands on them, that also meant some resellers could make a pretty penny selling theirs to reviewers wanting a first look. And that's how we got the review below, from Prime vs Prime. We also have a slew of in hand images showing off scale and poseability from Nathan and Shane, who posted on the Botposting Facebook group.
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Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 9:34pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on August 7th, 2024 @ 9:34pm CDT
I WANT THE PIANO!
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Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 8th, 2024 @ 12:22am CDT
Op raising it up to finish Megatron reminds me of a Toyfare Magazine fantasy battle where Palisades Dr. Teeth was about to use his keyboard to do the same to Dr. Mindbender.
While I'm on the fence about SS'86 Commander Optimus Prime in lot of ways, the last 2 pics just make me hope more than anything that we get another batch of Commander Ultra Magnus.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 8th, 2024 @ 12:22am CDT
Agreed. Even if it's not a portent of the TARGET: 2006 pianoformer getting an official toy, its regular appearances in these reviews make it feel like a recurring character in its own right. Legacy Baby-Grand?First-Aid wrote:I WANT THE PIANO!
Op raising it up to finish Megatron reminds me of a Toyfare Magazine fantasy battle where Palisades Dr. Teeth was about to use his keyboard to do the same to Dr. Mindbender.
While I'm on the fence about SS'86 Commander Optimus Prime in lot of ways, the last 2 pics just make me hope more than anything that we get another batch of Commander Ultra Magnus.
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Posted by morganprime on August 8th, 2024 @ 6:54am CDT
Posted by morganprime on August 8th, 2024 @ 6:54am CDT
Man SS Prime looks cool but I just can't put my finger on why I don't love it. The colors? Looks really blocky I don't know because nothing off the top is bad, just don't love it like some of the other primes realeased.
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Posted by william-james88 on August 8th, 2024 @ 7:12am CDT
The legs being full on cartoon accurate by removing all semblance of wheels definitely makes the toy look blocker than previous releases
Posted by william-james88 on August 8th, 2024 @ 7:12am CDT
morganprime wrote:Man SS Prime looks cool but I just can't put my finger on why I don't love it. The colors? Looks really blocky I don't know because nothing off the top is bad, just don't love it like some of the other primes realeased.
The legs being full on cartoon accurate by removing all semblance of wheels definitely makes the toy look blocker than previous releases
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 8th, 2024 @ 6:56pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 8th, 2024 @ 6:56pm CDT
Prime Vs Prime strikes again. Driving prices up for us all.
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Posted by Dino-Snarl on August 8th, 2024 @ 8:08pm CDT
Posted by Dino-Snarl on August 8th, 2024 @ 8:08pm CDT
Got 2. Happy camper.
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 8th, 2024 @ 9:15pm CDT
Swoops?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 8th, 2024 @ 9:15pm CDT
Dino-Snarl wrote:Got 2. Happy camper.
Swoops?
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Posted by Dino-Snarl on August 9th, 2024 @ 2:34am CDT
Yes and SS Optimus too.
Posted by Dino-Snarl on August 9th, 2024 @ 2:34am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:Got 2. Happy camper.
Swoops?
Yes and SS Optimus too.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 9th, 2024 @ 12:03pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 9th, 2024 @ 12:03pm CDT
This Commander Optimus is a budget MP-44.
It is pure perfection with a nice transformation and a perfect look all over. Plus, for once, HE'S IN THE RIGHT GENERATIONS SIZE.
Can't wait to have mine!
It is pure perfection with a nice transformation and a perfect look all over. Plus, for once, HE'S IN THE RIGHT GENERATIONS SIZE.
Can't wait to have mine!
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 9th, 2024 @ 6:17pm CDT
Which Optimus? TFOne
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 9th, 2024 @ 6:17pm CDT
Dino-Snarl wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:Got 2. Happy camper.
Swoops?
Yes and SS Optimus too.
Which Optimus? TFOne
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Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2024 @ 6:18pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 9th, 2024 @ 6:18pm CDT
Well, we are in the 86 thread.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:Got 2. Happy camper.
Swoops?
Yes and SS Optimus too.
Which Optimus? TFOne
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Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 9th, 2024 @ 11:02pm CDT
I'm old! It's hard out here for a Chuck!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 9th, 2024 @ 11:02pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, we are in the 86 thread.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Dino-Snarl wrote:Got 2. Happy camper.
Swoops?
Yes and SS Optimus too.
Which Optimus? TFOne
I'm old! It's hard out here for a Chuck!
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Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 10th, 2024 @ 4:35am CDT
Agreed, now I don't have to part ways with any of my SEK Primes like I thought. But again we'll see what we get down the horizon on repaints for this mold.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on August 10th, 2024 @ 4:35am CDT
morganprime wrote:Man SS Prime looks cool but I just can't put my finger on why I don't love it. The colors? Looks really blocky I don't know because nothing off the top is bad, just don't love it like some of the other primes realeased.
Agreed, now I don't have to part ways with any of my SEK Primes like I thought. But again we'll see what we get down the horizon on repaints for this mold.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 10th, 2024 @ 7:51pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 10th, 2024 @ 7:51pm CDT
Got the 86 Corpses, for $25 no less.
I had way too much fun making this picture:
I had way too much fun making this picture:
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 16th, 2024 @ 9:30am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 16th, 2024 @ 9:30am CDT
D-Max, your photo makes me wonder if they will re-release dead prime as part of the 40th anniversary. I think he might be the only version of the ER mold that wasn't re-released yet.
I passed on him originally because I really didn't care about trying to remake the dying scene, but now that we have a sort of sub line of the dead and dying, I would probably buy him if he got a re-release.
I passed on him originally because I really didn't care about trying to remake the dying scene, but now that we have a sort of sub line of the dead and dying, I would probably buy him if he got a re-release.
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 16th, 2024 @ 9:49am CDT
If you ever get Dead Prime, you can give his trailer to SG Optimus if you have it. That's what I did and I applied the Reprolabels to complete the look. It works perfectly. Toyhax used the Netflix Nemesis trailer, but I think the Dead trailer works better.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 16th, 2024 @ 9:49am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:D-Max, your photo makes me wonder if they will re-release dead prime as part of the 40th anniversary. I think he might be the only version of the ER mold that wasn't re-released yet.
I passed on him originally because I really didn't care about trying to remake the dying scene, but now that we have a sort of sub line of the dead and dying, I would probably buy him if he got a re-release.
If you ever get Dead Prime, you can give his trailer to SG Optimus if you have it. That's what I did and I applied the Reprolabels to complete the look. It works perfectly. Toyhax used the Netflix Nemesis trailer, but I think the Dead trailer works better.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183353)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 16th, 2024 @ 12:10pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 16th, 2024 @ 12:10pm CDT
I'm putting this here since it's connected and I don't know where else it would go, it might be nothing but, TF:TM is no longer available on any streaming service that I can see. It used to be available for purchase off Vudu/Fandango home but not anymore. Usually when something like this happens it means a newer release is coming, perhaps we're getting a 40th anniversary release?
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183356)
Posted by Emerje on August 16th, 2024 @ 1:23pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 16th, 2024 @ 1:23pm CDT
86 Bumblebee is only $21.49 on Amazon right now!
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 2YY4&psc=1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Emerje
https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 2YY4&psc=1?tag=seibertron07-20&
Emerje
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183357)
Posted by First-Aid on August 16th, 2024 @ 1:24pm CDT
Welcome to the world of Streaming. They will take down anything at any time. Unless you have hard media, the odds are that ANYTHING you may like will disappear and you are not going to have choices. Already had issues with iTUnes/Apple regarding almost a dozen albums I purchased for download but they pulled.
Posted by First-Aid on August 16th, 2024 @ 1:24pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm putting this here since it's connected and I don't know where else it would go, it might be nothing but, TF:TM is no longer available on any streaming service that I can see. It used to be available for purchase off Vudu/Fandango home but not anymore. Usually when something like this happens it means a newer release is coming, perhaps we're getting a 40th anniversary release?
Welcome to the world of Streaming. They will take down anything at any time. Unless you have hard media, the odds are that ANYTHING you may like will disappear and you are not going to have choices. Already had issues with iTUnes/Apple regarding almost a dozen albums I purchased for download but they pulled.
Re: Hasbro Confirms SS 86 Rodimus Prime Would Not be a New Mold (if it happens) (2183360)
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2024 @ 2:31pm CDT
I agree 100% ALWAYS purchase physical media when you can. However there are multiple layers to this. Thankfully, this seems to be the less invasive one for now. There are the times when an items become unavailable for purchase (but those who already purchased it still retain it, as seems to be the case with TF:TM see my VUDU screenshot, its still there for now). Then there are times when an item becomes unavailable, and even those who purchased it have it removed from their library.
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2024 @ 2:31pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm putting this here since it's connected and I don't know where else it would go, it might be nothing but, TF:TM is no longer available on any streaming service that I can see. It used to be available for purchase off Vudu/Fandango home but not anymore. Usually when something like this happens it means a newer release is coming, perhaps we're getting a 40th anniversary release?
Welcome to the world of Streaming. They will take down anything at any time. Unless you have hard media, the odds are that ANYTHING you may like will disappear and you are not going to have choices. Already had issues with iTUnes/Apple regarding almost a dozen albums I purchased for download but they pulled.
I agree 100% ALWAYS purchase physical media when you can. However there are multiple layers to this. Thankfully, this seems to be the less invasive one for now. There are the times when an items become unavailable for purchase (but those who already purchased it still retain it, as seems to be the case with TF:TM see my VUDU screenshot, its still there for now). Then there are times when an item becomes unavailable, and even those who purchased it have it removed from their library.
