Hasbro / Takara Comparison Charts for Bumblebee, Slugslinger, Perceptor and Octane
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Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:25am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:37am CDT
Bumblebee is a straight-up improvement in every way.
Perceptor is OK I guess. Not hugely impressive but the Ramhorn vehicle is nice.
Octane looks very good, though I still can't take that jet mode seriously. But a Ghost Starscream headmaster? Awesome!
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:37am CDT
Kurona wrote:I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!
Hey at least it's not as bad as when dreamwave literraly brought it up in the comics asking why do they have cockpits and why they are out of scale with the rest of the universe and not even answering it. It wasn't even rhetorical! Shockwave saying his grand scheme and saying this stuff and not even explaining why. And I say him explaining his scheme when he actually didn't even do that.
I'll give the Aligned continuity credit, they did explain why they all have seats and cockpits and it did make sense.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:37am CDT
Kurona wrote:I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!
Well, sometimes Transformers give each other rides. He can carry more with two cockpits?
Posted by Albatross250 on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:41am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Yeah what is everyone on? That is not quakes head repainted as starscream. It's completely different
It's a straight up seeker head with vents on the side. Quakes head doesn't have vents and the top of his head makes a point. Totally not the same
But it is a retool of quake lol
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:42am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Kurona wrote:I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!
Well, sometimes Transformers give each other rides. He can carry more with two cockpits?
Budget Astrotrain!
Posted by Albatross250 on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:42am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:Nice Color Scheme...
WAIT A SEC...
Damn you , you made Slugslinger in Sonic Colours , i guess he'll be collecting Rings now
Gotta Go Fast
Posted by MaverickPrime on July 11th, 2017 @ 9:58am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Kurona wrote:I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!
Well, sometimes Transformers give each other rides. He can carry more with two cockpits?
When they do an official MP Huffer it better have a micro Hoist driver!!!
As for the figures, Bee looks better in the warmer yellow, Perceptor looks almost identical but Ramhorn looks gorgeous, I wonder if his inclussion has something to do with the Autobot Intelligence Ops 2 pack.
Slugslinger looks pretty, but I prefer Hasbro's more unique shade of blue,wish it had used a visored toy head, though.
Octane looks also very similar, but the darker colors work really well AND GHOST STARSCREAM HEADMASTER! He can literally take over others now!
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 10:17am CDT
I'll say. That's like the one corner of the multiverse that actually did bother to explain the cockpits.Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!
Hey at least it's not as bad as when dreamwave literraly brought it up in the comics asking why do they have cockpits and why they are out of scale with the rest of the universe and not even answering it. It wasn't even rhetorical! Shockwave saying his grand scheme and saying this stuff and not even explaining why. And I say him explaining his scheme when he actually didn't even do that.
I'll give the Aligned continuity credit, they did explain why they all have seats and cockpits and it did make sense.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on July 11th, 2017 @ 10:20am CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT
kurthy wrote:LG56 Perceptor (with Shuffler weapon)
Shouldn't that say Ramhorn weapon?
Yes, please, update the news stories! You're not doing justice to the Legends release of Perceptor if you don't let people know that it's the Ramhorn version of the mold, decoed as Ramhorn himself, no less, and not a generic Shuffler version with different colors.
Also, Takara was pretty genius with what they did with the shoulder pylons for Octane. Flip them up and forward to mimic Starscream's intakes when using Starscream's ghost head as the Headmaster. Leave them down to look more like the Octane G1 cartoon character model. Finally, you can rotate the red sides out to homage the red circles on Octane's outer shoulders from the G1 toy! That's a lot of versatility for a single toy on top of it being a Headmaster triple changer with two different heads to use!
Posted by Randomhero on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'll say. That's like the one corner of the multiverse that actually did bother to explain the cockpits.Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:I think the most striking one is Slugslinger as it highlights just how much that bit of blue under the cockpit does for the accuracy and how much it makes him stand out. Only problem is that I ended up looking at it too long and started wondering why on Cybertron a vehicle would need two separate cockpits. Bad Kurona! Stop trying to bring logic and sense into dumb space robots!
Hey at least it's not as bad as when dreamwave literraly brought it up in the comics asking why do they have cockpits and why they are out of scale with the rest of the universe and not even answering it. It wasn't even rhetorical! Shockwave saying his grand scheme and saying this stuff and not even explaining why. And I say him explaining his scheme when he actually didn't even do that.
I'll give the Aligned continuity credit, they did explain why they all have seats and cockpits and it did make sense.
Exactly! Why? Quintessons. They're lazy. That's it.
Posted by leokearon on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:16pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
Which itself was based on the head of WFC/FOC Starscream:
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:22pm CDT
leokearon wrote:I live the Ghost of Starscream idea, just not a fan of the transparent plastic
But, that's what makes him a g-g-g-ghooooooost!
Posted by Evil Eye on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:31pm CDT
EDIT: A bit like this...
Obviosuly not to quite such an extent, but you get the idea.
Posted by autobot00 on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:51pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:53pm CDT
That's more "zombie" Starscream than "ghost" Starscream.Black Hat wrote:I know it kind of defeats the purpose of Ghost Starscream (an easy redeco that everyone wants because GHOST STARSCREAM) but I'd like a Ghost Starscream with slight retooling to him in addition to being made of clear plastic to make him look extra ghostly- a different expression, cracks and "wounds" to make him look more undead (so add some holes to his wings exposing the superstructure beneath and make his cockpit look "shattered" for example), some parts bei8ng wreathed in (removable?) sculpted ethereal flame, etc.
EDIT: A bit like this...
Obviosuly not to quite such an extent, but you get the idea.
Posted by Evil Eye on July 11th, 2017 @ 12:58pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:That's more "zombie" Starscream than "ghost" Starscream.Black Hat wrote:I know it kind of defeats the purpose of Ghost Starscream (an easy redeco that everyone wants because GHOST STARSCREAM) but I'd like a Ghost Starscream with slight retooling to him in addition to being made of clear plastic to make him look extra ghostly- a different expression, cracks and "wounds" to make him look more undead (so add some holes to his wings exposing the superstructure beneath and make his cockpit look "shattered" for example), some parts bei8ng wreathed in (removable?) sculpted ethereal flame, etc.
EDIT: A bit like this...
Obviosuly not to quite such an extent, but you get the idea.
True, though sometimes ghosts are portrayed as fairly decayed/zombie-like. It'd also potentially work for a "semi-physical" version of the Spectral Screamer, as if his physical body was only just held together through Unicron's power and Starscream's sheer bloody-mindedness. Plus, Starscream I can imagine wanting to scare the armour plating off of anyone he comes across.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 11th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT
kurthy wrote:LG56 Perceptor (with Shuffler weapon)
Shouldn't that say Ramhorn weapon?
Yeah, no kidding. You can clearly see the rhino mode in the photos even.
Randomhero wrote:Rated X wrote:Heres hoping Renderform goes back to his previous success and starts making bumper and hubcap heads for Hasbro bumblebee. And while hes at it do Cliffjumper heads for Chase. Its not like there gonna do all 6 Throttlebots in different unique molds so f**k it.
It took 3 years to get the three insecticons and with TR brawn 11 years to compelete the entire 84 roster in classics form. Patience is a virtue
The '84 roster's only technically complete at that. We're still waiting on a cartoon-scale matched set (the Seekers are a size class too small, Huffer's too small, CJ's too big..), Optimus' trailer, a better Ratchet and Ironhide, and a non-lazy Sunstreaker.
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 3:13pm CDT
Though, yes, you're all correct; that is definitely a rhino and not an elephant. This fool will update the news story
Posted by Evil Eye on July 11th, 2017 @ 3:15pm CDT
Posted by Optimum Supreme on July 11th, 2017 @ 3:31pm CDT
The '84 roster's only technically complete at that. We're still waiting on a cartoon-scale matched set (the Seekers are a size class too small, Huffer's too small, CJ's too big..), Optimus' trailer, a better Ratchet and Ironhide, and a non-lazy Sunstreaker.
Unless there's a different version I'm not aware of, Huffer's got bigger issues than scale. They may have redecoed nuLegends OP into Huffer with a new head mold and recoloring the body orange, but c'mon that's still not a "real" 84 Huffer, what with chest windows and no covering over his head. It's like considering TM Brawn a proper version of him. Fortunately he's also got old/nuLegends figs.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 11th, 2017 @ 3:37pm CDT
*EDIT* Hold the phone guys, I just spotted a circular detail on his chest found on only one Titan Master mold:
Transformers Titans Return Nightbeat Gallery
The leg design matches too as does the head from what I can tell, so Starscream is a pretool of Nightbeat! Should have guess from his drone being a jet.
Posted by WreckerJack on July 11th, 2017 @ 4:28pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 11th, 2017 @ 4:46pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:The '84 roster's only technically complete at that. We're still waiting on a cartoon-scale matched set (the Seekers are a size class too small, Huffer's too small, CJ's too big..), Optimus' trailer, a better Ratchet and Ironhide, and a non-lazy Sunstreaker.
Unless there's a different version I'm not aware of, Huffer's got bigger issues than scale. They may have redecoed nuLegends OP into Huffer with a new head mold and recoloring the body orange, but c'mon that's still not a "real" 84 Huffer, what with chest windows and no covering over his head. It's like considering TM Brawn a proper version of him. Fortunately he's also got old/nuLegends figs.
Yeah, forgot to mention that issue. Got distracted by the fact that the person I was quoting apparently counts that Huffer as good enough.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 4:51pm CDT
There's also... the original Classics Huffer.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Optimum Supreme wrote:The '84 roster's only technically complete at that. We're still waiting on a cartoon-scale matched set (the Seekers are a size class too small, Huffer's too small, CJ's too big..), Optimus' trailer, a better Ratchet and Ironhide, and a non-lazy Sunstreaker.
Unless there's a different version I'm not aware of, Huffer's got bigger issues than scale. They may have redecoed nuLegends OP into Huffer with a new head mold and recoloring the body orange, but c'mon that's still not a "real" 84 Huffer, what with chest windows and no covering over his head. It's like considering TM Brawn a proper version of him. Fortunately he's also got old/nuLegends figs.
Yeah, forgot to mention that issue. Got distracted by the fact that the person I was quoting apparently counts that Huffer as good enough.
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 4:53pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:19pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I remember there were rumours we were gonna get an actual new Pipes and Huffer in TR. Here's hoping we get 'em in POTP -- I need the former for my MTMTE Season 1 cast. Maybe I can get a broken one for cheap
They were rumored for TR... but not Legends
On the side, this should debunk the claims Spike is a retool of Cerebros:
Heads do look alike, but the bodies are different.
So, to summarize:
- Starscream is (very likely) a retool of Nightbeat
- Spike is an all-new mold
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 5:27pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 11th, 2017 @ 6:37pm CDT
Posted by SureShot18 on July 11th, 2017 @ 6:41pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I remember there were rumours we were gonna get an actual new Pipes and Huffer in TR. Here's hoping we get 'em in POTP -- I need the former for my MTMTE Season 1 cast. Maybe I can get a broken one for cheap
Interesting new Legends releases. The inclusion of Ghost Starscream with Octane is neat. Also it should be noted that Perceptor has less paint detail than Hasbro's. The downsides of going for cartoon accuracy. Now Ramhorn has that extra TakTom touch.
Posted by william-james88 on July 11th, 2017 @ 7:49pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 11th, 2017 @ 7:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Whats wrong with CW Pipes and Huffer? Its a great mold and fun for minibots.
Cool mold, just doesn't look like the characters. At all.
Posted by Deadput on July 11th, 2017 @ 8:16pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Ordered myself a Black convoy, he should be here tomorrow, cannot wait
Any places where I could still get him?
Don't have any money at the moment but I should get some soon and if not then I will by the end of the month.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 11th, 2017 @ 8:46pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Spike's head appears to be translucent, with the face molded on the inside of the back of the head, to make it look like it's inside a clear space helmet.
That kinda disappointed me. Spike as a Headmaster was shades of Gray. He modified Cerebros' head not his exo suit.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 11th, 2017 @ 8:51pm CDT
In American continuity, yes. But this looks to be going a different route for the Japanese continuity. The Rebirth is viewed as an alternate timeline over in Japan.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Spike's head appears to be translucent, with the face molded on the inside of the back of the head, to make it look like it's inside a clear space helmet.
That kinda disappointed me. Spike as a Headmaster was shades of Gray. He modified Cerebros' head not his exo suit.
Posted by william-james88 on July 11th, 2017 @ 11:07pm CDT
For any non US collectors, this is a great store for you if you can afford to pay up front.
Posted by Cyberpath on July 12th, 2017 @ 2:48am CDT
LG54
360° view -- http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_lg/lg54
LG55
360° view -- http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_lg/lg55
LG56
360° view -- http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_lg/lg56
LG57
360° view -- http://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/products-lineup/tf_lg/lg57
Posted by Deadput on July 12th, 2017 @ 4:07am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 12th, 2017 @ 4:29am CDT
Posted by Kurona on July 12th, 2017 @ 4:36am CDT
Posted by Cyberpath on July 12th, 2017 @ 4:53am CDT
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Posted by galvatron00 on July 12th, 2017 @ 9:14am CDT
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
Posted by william-james88 on July 12th, 2017 @ 9:17am CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Oh man..I can't wait to see the Ghost Starscream Titan MasterHeadmaster on Scourge's body!!!
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
There is no escape from it once you are caught in a landslide.
Posted by Kurona on July 12th, 2017 @ 9:26am CDT
Posted by galvatron00 on July 12th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
Oh dang, WJ is getting DEEP!!william-james88 wrote:There is no escape from it once you are caught in a landslide.itscramtastic wrote:Oh man..I can't wait to see the Ghost Starscream Titan MasterHeadmaster on Scourge's body!!!
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
Whaaaaaaaat?! It'll be fine. A bunch of stuff is made of translucent plastic and it is sturdy! Some transformer weapons, plastic forks and knives, other things I'm sure of that I can't think of currently..Kurona wrote:Cool as the Cerebros and Ghost Starscream heads are... I'd be heavily reluctant to use any of them in head mode with their translucent plastic head-slot pieces. Shame too since the Cerebros head mode is the only of Spike's two modes which isn't terrifying.
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 12th, 2017 @ 10:23am CDT
william-james88 wrote:itscramtastic wrote:Oh man..I can't wait to see the Ghost Starscream Titan MasterHeadmaster on Scourge's body!!!
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
There is no escape from it once you are caught in a landslide.
Open your eyes. You have to look to the skies and see!
Posted by LE0KING on July 12th, 2017 @ 11:54am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Ooh, boy those blue eyes on preceptor make a world of difference. That looks so good. Plus his Titan Master being painted is awesome. Everything else isn't different enough for me to jump on.william-james88 wrote:itscramtastic wrote:Oh man..I can't wait to see the Ghost Starscream Titan MasterHeadmaster on Scourge's body!!!
IS THIS REAL LIFE?!
There is no escape from it once you are caught in a landslide.
Open your eyes. You have to look to the skies and see!
I'm just a poor boy, can't afford takara.