Hasbro taking action against certain eBay auctions

OK, I can understand that but what about stuff like G2 Motormaster
prototype? The last I heard that Hasbro isn't planning on releasing it
as part of any of the current lines?

Cyberstrike wrote:OK, I can understand that but what about stuff like G2 Motormaster
prototype? The last I heard that Hasbro isn't planning on releasing it
as part of any of the current lines?

I believe that they are only taking action against figures that show up on eBay that haven't been released yet. I imagine it's probably too late for regular Transformers Animated figures since they've been released in the Cincinatti market. The prototype I was selling probably still falls within eBay's violations of some sort even though the rest of the Animated figures do not at this time. The upcoming Universe (Classics 2.0) figures haven't been released in any capacity so they easily fall within infringements of Hasbro.

I guess the rule of thumb is:

If Hasbro plans on making money on it first they don't want other people to.

But I'm very encouraged about possible action against the KOs.

Ok, Ryan, so if you can't sell your Bulkhead proto, what're ya gonna do with it?

Sabrblade wrote:Ok, Ryan, so if you can't sell your Bulkhead proto, what're ya gonna do with it?

I just can't sell it on eBay.

I guess I'll sell it to the first person to email me telling me they're going to send me $150 plus $8 for shipping and handling via Paypal.

it reminds me alot like like of youtube and there restrictions on the complete episodes that are being hosted i can understand youtube piont of veiw in somesituations.

but who cares if its just some prototypes or not

Why are Hasbro not tackling all the Botcon 2008 auctions then. I'm not complaining because I got Evil Rodimus for £63.20 ($124.77) and they are going for over $200. However, I was watching auctions for the souvenir minicons but they have disappeared from ebay.

Trikeboy wrote:I'm not complaining because I got Evil Rodimus for £63.20 ($124.77) and they are going for over $200.

Not that you didn't make a great point, but you got Evil Rodimus for that much!? I haven't seen one under $230, minus shipping!

I wondered what happened to that Classics Prowl I was watching. So Hasbro's taking action against official products, but not KO's? That's getting their priorities straight. ¬_¬

Wheelie say, kill the damn KOs today

TFBuyer wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I'm not complaining because I got Evil Rodimus for £63.20 ($124.77) and they are going for over $200.

Not that you didn't make a great point, but you got Evil Rodimus for that much!? I haven't seen one under $230, minus shipping!

I know, I couldn't believe it. Here is the item number: 260226819371. I was actually quite excited in the closing seconds. There is a classic Prowl currently up on ebay but I guess it will be gone before it finishes. Is Hasbro only doing this with eBay?

I did mention in one board on here that i surprise that Hasbro havent yet took any actions against ppl selling their products b4 their release date cause the sellers are making a killing on ebay and other auctions and i know Hasbro will eventually do something about cause they losing customers and profit over it.

All I can say is karma a bitch.

I'd say it's about time.
Hopefully this will lead to knock-off G1 stuff getting dealt with.

NuclearConvoy wrote:I'd say it's about time.
Hopefully this will lead to knock-off G1 stuff getting dealt with.

I hope so, the KOs really started to annoy me after buying a G1 Buzzsaw on eBay and then finding out it was a KO upon receiving it. The listing was selling it as a vintage item. The seller was yc-collection.

In one aspect, I'm glad they are doing this.

On the other hand, I'm pissed I'll have to wait for Universe to come out to actually see new Seibertron galleries.

I really hope they start going after the KO makers hardcore. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so close to the originals and use the copyright and trademark stamps. I've seen posts that show the differences, but by the time that I see them in real life I can't remember what to look for.

Geekee1 wrote:I really hope they start going after the KO makers hardcore. It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so close to the originals and use the copyright and trademark stamps. I've seen posts that show the differences, but by the time that I see them in real life I can't remember what to look for.

If people said "no" to KOs instead of buying and supporting them, maybe they wouldn't be so intensely produced and sold. So, maybe it's our fault as well. We have to boicot the KOs in order to end them.

Slap on the wrist eh?

Well, you can be glad that you at least got the galleries up first!

A question though, where you reselling these because you didn't want the over head(space is valuable) or because you didn't feel they where worth keeping in general?

Hey Boss Monkey, what about you know who? *Will we still be getting a gallery?

*just a tinnnnnny hint ladies and gents

My only concern with going after the KOs is that the KO folks are gonna try harder at passing them off as originals. Right now it seems like most of the KO people on ebay are pretty good about listing them as KOs.

Now if hasbro takes action, a lot of these folks may start selling them without the boxes as originals. They will probably get shut down fast, but it may cloud the market even more. It will be nice to start searching on ebay and not having 75% KOs come up on the search.

I say it is about time. The preview items listed were probably stolen from the factory in China, as Hasbro would not sell nor authorize people to sell their items before they are officially released. The Intellectual property does belong to Hasbro/TakaraTomy, so they have every right to protect it. China lacks any intellectual property protection, so at least Hasbro can petition eBay in USA to help them protect their intellectual property.

As for the knockoffs, there is really little incentive to go after them because 1) they are too numerous, 2) difficult to verify, and 3) Hasbro/TakaraTomy is not selling them anymore, so it does not hurt their bottom line.

The incredible prices and sales of prototypes and knock offs are mostly caused by the consumer demand. If people did not want it, others would not sell it. It is simple economics. You cannot really put all the blame on the sellers for wanting to sell things that people want to buy.

influence82 wrote:As for the knockoffs, there is really little incentive to go after them because 1) they are too numerous, 2) difficult to verify, and 3) Hasbro/TakaraTomy is not selling them anymore, so it does not hurt their bottom line.

That's not true, I mean, the 3rd one. There are KOs for toys from the Movie and the Classics lines, which are current, and even KOs for recent G1 reissues, and even recent to-be-reissues, like Metroplex and its KO. There are plenty KOs that are in fact illegal and not just for old products not being sold anymore (but they may be sold again in reissues, like what's happening on the Encore line).

Hmm, maybe this has something to do with why the guy who sells the MYM "Reissue" TF's is no longer a registered eBay user.

Glitcher wrote:I wondered what happened to that Classics Prowl I was watching. So Hasbro's taking action against official products, but not KO's? That's getting their priorities straight. ¬_¬

Aren't the early 'official products' stolen? I can see why they'd go after those before they go after KOs.

So, what happens if you won an item and paid already and then eBay removes the listing? That could be problematic.

Dagon wrote:So, what happens if you won an item and paid already and then eBay removes the listing? That could be problematic.

If you've already won & paid, it does not matter if ebay pulled the auction?

This happened to me before so I understand your concern, but the seller should still send you the item.

If you've paid and they don't send it you can still go through paypal or whatever if there is an issue.