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Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan

Transformers News: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan

Monday, September 27th, 2021 11:29AM CDT

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It was odd that Takara had been silent on Star Saber and Victory Leo being offered in Japan since that was the audience that grew up with these characters and would have the most nostalgia for it. But they finally tweeted out that it would be coming and details will be posted soon. There are less than 2 weeks left so not much time for Japan. However preorder windows for TTMall exclusives have been narrow in the past as well and this will be offered through TTMall.

Here was the tweet:

Information will be lifted soon! / Hasbro crowdfunding products. Victory Saver Hasbro's second Transformers crowdfunding product, "Victory Saver," will be announced at TAKARATOMY MALL in the near future.


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Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116845)
Posted by King Kuuga on September 27th, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
william-james88 wrote:FYI, the stand we are seeing is the final version, it will not be painted.

Posts that did not age well.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116846)
Posted by o.supreme on September 27th, 2021 @ 12:04pm CDT
I've heard some fans on other sites say that fans in Japan don't need a lot of time to make a decision on whether to back this or not. I'm not in total agreement. I mean sure there are cultural differences among everyone around the world, but when it comes to spending what is the equivalent of about $200 USD on a toy (and for most countries the price is higher), I'm sure it's not something everyone can just make a snap decision on. We may decide we want or don't want it relatively soon, but the reality of being able to do so may take time.

I still reference back to Legends Grand Max. That was also a short window, just 2 weeks, and ONLY through TT Mall. They got 2000+ backers (we don't know the final number), but it was less than 3000 to include the stretch goal. If the window to order it had been longer, it might have reached that amount.

I mean I'm not going to complain. 2 weeks is better than them not having an opportunity at all, and I'm sure it will fund now. As for stretch goals, I'm not fully convinced, but we shall see, I hope I am wrong.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116855)
Posted by william-james88 on September 27th, 2021 @ 12:41pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:
william-james88 wrote:FYI, the stand we are seeing is the final version, it will not be painted.

Posts that did not age well.


and that's a good thing.
Turns out I misinterpreted what Hasbro said. They said a clear stand. I guess it indeed still is.
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Posted by william-james88 on September 27th, 2021 @ 12:50pm CDT
o.supreme wrote: just 2 weeks, and ONLY through TT Mall. They got 2000+ backers (we don't know the final number), but it was less than 3000 to include the stretch goal. If the window to order it had been longer, it might have reached that amount.


Don't know, but yeah Takara does like to do short order windows. I forget what the windows for other TTMal exclusives were but I remember them being short too. I think that's what online people mean when they say Japanese people don't need long preorder windows. It's more them commenting on the norm there rather than how a Japanese fan lives their life.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116860)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 27th, 2021 @ 12:52pm CDT
huh... I had assumed that this was already up for backing in Japan. Guess that's what I get for thinking Hopefully this means that we will see a big jump in the backing numbers, and that we will get all three tiers. :DANCE:
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116878)
Posted by Emerje on September 27th, 2021 @ 2:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote: just 2 weeks, and ONLY through TT Mall. They got 2000+ backers (we don't know the final number), but it was less than 3000 to include the stretch goal. If the window to order it had been longer, it might have reached that amount.


Don't know, but yeah Takara does like to do short order windows. I forget what the windows for other TTMal exclusives were but I remember them being short too. I think that's what online people mean when they say Japanese people don't need long preorder windows. It's more them commenting on the norm there rather than how a Japanese fan lives their life.

In Japan payday is the 25th of every month everywhere, the majority aren't paid weekly or biweekly like we are in the west. This is why big ticket items like Masterpiece figures tend to be released towards the end of the month there. This is also when people are more likely to make impulse purchases so it makes some sense that they would give a short window to give them less time to think about it. When Unicron was up for order they didn't allow cancellations and I'm guessing the same will be true this time, too.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116879)
Posted by o.supreme on September 27th, 2021 @ 2:21pm CDT
That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. I would have thought that in a country where there are untold numbers of private and public companies, (same as in many other places) that paydates would be all over the place, as in the west. Man, I bet shopping is a pain around those times, well it kind of is here also (1st of the month), but if you plan ahead, you can avoid the crowds. Of course we've been having our groceries delivered, or been doing pickup, but obviously not everyone can do that.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116888)
Posted by ScottyP on September 27th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:huh... I had assumed that this was already up for backing in Japan. Guess that's what I get for thinking Hopefully this means that we will see a big jump in the backing numbers, and that we will get all three tiers. :DANCE:
I think at bare minimum this seals the deal on 11,000. Not that I had much doubt on that part, but still a good feeling!
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116895)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 27th, 2021 @ 3:59pm CDT
Takara tweet SILHOUETTES instead of the full color renders that are available on Pulse for days.

Why? :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116896)
Posted by Emerje on September 27th, 2021 @ 4:16pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. I would have thought that in a country where there are untold numbers of private and public companies, (same as in many other places) that paydates would be all over the place, as in the west. Man, I bet shopping is a pain around those times, well it kind of is here also (1st of the month), but if you plan ahead, you can avoid the crowds. Of course we've been having our groceries delivered, or been doing pickup, but obviously not everyone can do that.

Anime would have me believe that asking for a cash advance from your employer when funds get tight isn't entirely unheard of. In fact when doublechecking my understanding of this I found that they take a month to calculate wages and wages from the 25th to the end of the month are calculated as a cash advance that gets corrected on the next payday if needed.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Takara tweet SILHOUETTES instead of the full color renders that are available on Pulse for days.

Why? :BANG_HEAD:

Same Takara that regularly shows gray model prototypes at live events (while Hasbro rarely shows anything that isn't at least hand painted). It's like they and Hasbro switched places for this.

Emerje
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116909)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 27th, 2021 @ 6:25pm CDT
With this long overdue news, I fully expect my original backer count of 20,000 to be met
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116912)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 27th, 2021 @ 6:38pm CDT
Let's not forget that after a great first week or so of sales, MP Star Saber ended up being one of the worst-selling Masterpiece figures. There might not be THAT much demand for an ultra-exclusive version of Victory Saber.

With that said I'm contemplating going in on a second one to flip, but with the issues with the Sentinel I expect aftermarket demand to drop on it which makes me concerned about Victory Saber. If that set has some flaw in the design that makes it virtually unusable, I may not be able to flip the extra one even at a loss.
It would be nice if the Razor Crest was released before the backing window on Victory Saber closes so I can see how that does on the aftermarket.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116919)
Posted by Emerje on September 27th, 2021 @ 10:26pm CDT
Finally live on Takara Tomy Mall. https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g82022 ... mm210928tf

Emerje
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Posted by o.supreme on September 27th, 2021 @ 10:39pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Let's not forget that after a great first week or so of sales, MP Star Saber ended up being one of the worst-selling Masterpiece figures. There might not be THAT much demand for an ultra-exclusive version of Victory Saber.

With that said I'm contemplating going in on a second one to flip, but with the issues with the Sentinel I expect aftermarket demand to drop on it which makes me concerned about Victory Saber. If that set has some flaw in the design that makes it virtually unusable, I may not be able to flip the extra one even at a loss.
It would be nice if the Razor Crest was released before the backing window on Victory Saber closes so I can see how that does on the aftermarket.


I just did a search of *sold* listing for Haslab Sentinel (not what people are asking, but what it is actually selling for), and it is STILL a minimum of 2X the Haslab initial price, defects and all, that is crazy to think, but it's happening.

Razorcrest was initially supposed to be shipped before the end of the year, but now it's early 2022. Perhaps the online complaints are causing Hasbro to really make sure there are no issues with the next item that was already backed, and is shipping to customers who backed it.

Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116925)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 28th, 2021 @ 4:07am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.


What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.

That Saber at 160$? Much, MUCH more manageable.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116939)
Posted by Mindmaster on September 28th, 2021 @ 8:58am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.


What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.

That Saber at 160$? Much, MUCH more manageable.


100% why I didn’t get Unicron. My military pay barely covers my collecting as is, no way I could’ve dropped $600 on a guy almost half my size. :BANG_HEAD:

I’m hopeful for Victory Saber with the opening of orders in Japan, I hope it at least makes it to the first tier. Also I read on Twitter that a secret fourth tier is in the works and will include two more full-sized figures. All speculation of course, but if true and is the right characters, I’m sure that’ll make it surge up as well.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116944)
Posted by sol magnus on September 28th, 2021 @ 9:13am CDT
Mindmaster wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Also, as Big and Expensive as Unicron was, when it comes to Haslab generral discussion online, he seems to be brought up the least. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while most of Haslabs get a big last minute surge, it seems to be that Unicron limped to the finish, thanks only to an extended backing time.


What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.

That Saber at 160$? Much, MUCH more manageable.


100% why I didn’t get Unicron. My military pay barely covers my collecting as is, no way I could’ve dropped $600 on a guy almost half my size. :BANG_HEAD:

I’m hopeful for Victory Saber with the opening of orders in Japan, I hope it at least makes it to the first tier. Also I read on Twitter that a secret fourth tier is in the works and will include two more full-sized figures. All speculation of course, but if true and is the right characters, I’m sure that’ll make it surge up as well.

I didn't back him, either. As insane as it sounds, though - I should have gotten two because I could have sold the second one for enough to cover the first one plus the money for Star Saber.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116946)
Posted by o.supreme on September 28th, 2021 @ 9:30am CDT
Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.

I mean I'm happy about VS, and I've proudly backed it. I just think some fans are overestimating how much support it will get. I don't expect all the tiers to be met, I'll be shocked even if tier 1 gets met. I hope I'm wrong, but 20K backers seems like a LOT at this point. I just think next to the juggernauts (no pun intended) of Star wars and Marvel, we as Transformers fans kind of forget how small we are in comparison.

Just as an example, there was an interesting debate on the toy industry as a whole this past Sunday between 2 very different YouTube personalities.



The first 30 minutes or so is skipable because one of the debaters had bad internet. But many of the problems of production, distribution etc. were discussed. No answers unfortunately, but it was an interesting watch nonetheless. Haslab was mentioned MANY times however, but I don't know if Transformers as a brand was ever even mentioned Compared to DC, Marvel, and Star Wars. (Also MOTU was mentioned as lot, but mostly because one of the debaters used to work for Mattel)
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116947)
Posted by sol magnus on September 28th, 2021 @ 9:34am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.

I backed Galactus so I can sell it for a Unicron. How's that for asynchronous thinking?
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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 28th, 2021 @ 9:38am CDT
Maybe Marvel is just more popular than Transformers. Plus Unicron is gigantic and wide. Right now he's sitting on my floor because I have no real place to put him. Galactus is much more economical space-wise. He doesn't have wings or a ring or a huge stand.

If Saber's tiers don't get met I hope a 3rd party will produce them.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116963)
Posted by o.supreme on September 28th, 2021 @ 10:38am CDT
sol magnus wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.

I backed Galactus so I can sell it for a Unicron. How's that for asynchronous thinking?


Adequate Space is still an issue for me, but Wow...I applaud your ingenuity!

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Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2116965)
Posted by sol magnus on September 28th, 2021 @ 10:51am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.

I backed Galactus so I can sell it for a Unicron. How's that for asynchronous thinking?


Adequate Space is still an issue for me, but Wow...I applaud your ingenuity!

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The key is to have something along similar cost lines that is equal to or superior in popularity. It's certainly not that I don't have any love or have any connection to Galactus ( I own two or three Galacti in other forms). It's that I don't collect Marvel Legends *much*. I collect Transformers. Since I don't need a Galactus I can flip it easily to get the money for Unicron. If it's a 'straight swap' I will have paid 479 for Unicron, not 575. I will certainly share my results in about 9 months to a year lol.
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Posted by o.supreme on September 28th, 2021 @ 10:59am CDT
sol magnus wrote:Since I don't need a Galactus I can flip it easily to get the money for Unicron. If it's a 'straight swap' I will have paid 479 for Unicron, not 575. I will certainly share my results in about 9 months to a year lol.


I definitely hope it works in your favor. The only possible problem I see is that there will be a little over 32K Galcatus' being produced next to only 11K? *ish Unicron' that were produced . Now if you were willing to settle for one that had been open and on display, but was still in perfect condition, I could see it as a possibility, because someone may want the *new hotness* instead. ;)

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Posted by sol magnus on September 28th, 2021 @ 11:10am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:Since I don't need a Galactus I can flip it easily to get the money for Unicron. If it's a 'straight swap' I will have paid 479 for Unicron, not 575. I will certainly share my results in about 9 months to a year lol.


I definitely hope it works in your favor. The only possible problem I see is that there will be a little over 32K Galcatus' being produced next to only 11K? *ish Unicron' that were produced . Now if you were willing to settle for one that had been open and on display, but was still in perfect condition, I could see it as a possibility, because someone may want the *new hotness* instead. ;)

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By 'straight swap' I mean I sell the Galactus for whatever money, then just buy a Unicron for whatever money - not implying a trade because there may not be anyone to do that with. There are plenty on evilbay right now. Now, there's the idea that that could change in the time it takes to actually get the Galactus, but I'm certain I'll end up with a Unicron.
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Posted by primalxconvoy on September 28th, 2021 @ 3:09pm CDT
Firstly, not all the crowd-funded TFs were sold in a short time allocation:

- https://time-space.kddi.com/au-transformers/index.html

I don't recall the actual amount of time, but I'm pretty certain it was more than a few weeks.

Also, not everyone is paid in the 25th of each month in Japan. Although many places are (which is why Takara possibly releases their toys around both those dates, and certain Japanese holidays, to possibly maximize profits), most of the jobs I've worked at in Japan didn't.

Also, good luck asking for a cash advance from your employer in Japan, lol. To date, the only company that I worked for that did such a thing, was "Shane English School Japan", which offered it to first-year foreign workers, who came to Japan that year. This was due to them having to pay for their own flight (which was reimbursed later), and having to pay about two months' rent in advance for their accommodation (one month of rent and "thank you money", which is the same valid as one months' rent).

Also, many jobs pay the month AFTER, rather than the month worked. Thus, if you start work in April, and work the full month (or in summer places, work after payday, say on from the 26th of the previous month), you ain't be paid until the 26th of May, but only for April's work. Thus, after you leave the job, you'll get a month of salary afterwards (although some employers deduct money from salaries if workers leave their job without permission). I think this is designed to stop workers from suddenly quitting. Also, best in mind that RENT usually requires a month in ADVANCE, which is why SESJ also offered a one-off cash advance to new workers.

Anyway, he's their page for the pre-order, which is limited to 2 items per customer, and only for customers with a Japanese credit card. TT Mall, unlike EVERY other shop in Japan and abroad, doesn't accept Japanese Visa debit cards (which are handled exactly as credit cards in Japan, as all shops will state that such cards are "credit" when processing them). Due to this being a crowd-funded product, TT's regular options of paying at the door upon delivery and paying via a bill (later) at a convenience store, are not available. Users need to click on the application button at the site, then the link in the sent email, and then the "order" button back at the site. Users have to do this within 30 minutes of clicking the application button/receiving the email or the application will be cancelled.

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Here's Takara's page for Starsabre:

- https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g82022 ... mm210928tf
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Posted by Emerje on September 28th, 2021 @ 4:28pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.

Even people that were willing were expected to choose between Unicron and MP-44 Optimus Prime who was coming out the same month payment was originally due. Thinking people could just drop $1,100~ on Transformers in one month was ridiculously shortsighted of them. I did get Unicron, but I used a third party payment plant that allowed me to pay over 12 months. Cost me about $100 more in the end, but $700 over 12 months was far easier to swallow than $600 all at once.

Did the other HasLab crowdfunds get offered world wide the same way the two Transformers ones did?

Emerje
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Posted by sol magnus on September 28th, 2021 @ 4:39pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:What worked against Unicron was it's price. Not everyone can or a willing to back a 600 mother effing YOUESSES DOLLARS toy.

Even people that were willing were expected to choose between Unicron and MP-44 Optimus Prime who was coming out the same month payment was originally due. Thinking people could just drop $1,100~ on Transformers in one month was ridiculously shortsighted of them. I did get Unicron, but I used a third party payment plant that allowed me to pay over 12 months. Cost me about $100 more in the end, but $700 over 12 months was far easier to swallow than $600 all at once.

Did the other HasLab crowdfunds get offered world wide the same way the two Transformers ones did?

Emerje

Ding! Ding! That was the choice I had. I went with MP-44. I couldn't justify both (even though I was flush with cash at the time, proving there is a limit lol).
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Posted by King Kuuga on September 28th, 2021 @ 5:20pm CDT
The Masterpiece line is something we have been told is something Hasbro has basically no involvement in, being almost or completely handled by Takara. With that in mind, when Hasbro was figuring out when to launch their campaign, they may not have thought to check what major release dates were for products outside of their control. That said, definitely someone along the way should have caught that the very expensive Masterpiece figure of the most popular Transformer was going to be released around the same time they would be charging for Unicron if it came out and adjusted accordingly.
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Posted by Emerje on September 28th, 2021 @ 5:38pm CDT
King Kuuga wrote:The Masterpiece line is something we have been told is something Hasbro has basically no involvement in, being almost or completely handled by Takara. With that in mind, when Hasbro was figuring out when to launch their campaign, they may not have thought to check what major release dates were for products outside of their control. That said, definitely someone along the way should have caught that the very expensive Masterpiece figure of the most popular Transformer was going to be released around the same time they would be charging for Unicron if it came out and adjusted accordingly.

I don't accept that excuse. They sold MP-44 themselves in the west, they knew its release lined up with the end of Unicron's campaign and should have been aware that there was a conflict there. There was no real reason why Unicron couldn't have been started a month or two later, we all know they would have benefited from the extra time to present it properly.

Emerje
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Posted by primalxconvoy on September 28th, 2021 @ 5:44pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
King Kuuga wrote:The Masterpiece line is something we have been told is something Hasbro has basically no involvement in, being almost or completely handled by Takara. With that in mind, when Hasbro was figuring out when to launch their campaign, they may not have thought to check what major release dates were for products outside of their control. That said, definitely someone along the way should have caught that the very expensive Masterpiece figure of the most popular Transformer was going to be released around the same time they would be charging for Unicron if it came out and adjusted accordingly.

I don't accept that excuse. They sold MP-44 themselves in the west, they knew its release lined up with the end of Unicron's campaign and should have been aware that there was a conflict there. There was no real reason why Unicron couldn't have been started a month or two later, we all know they would have benefited from the extra time to present it properly.

Emerje



I agree. Takara and Hasbro are in direct communication with each other. I suppose though, as some Japanese have a rep for their lack of effective/direct communication and/or disregard for issues outside Japan, perhaps it was Takara that (stubbornly?) released MP OP at a time that was not good for Hasbro?

Another issue could have been the definitely sale of the MP figure over the possible sale of a much more expensive (and more niche?) product via crowdfunding?
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Posted by william-james88 on September 28th, 2021 @ 9:50pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a several of us here didn't get Unicron, including myself, for similar reasons. But Galactus was what? Almost $500? Yet it blew through all 4 of its tiers towards the end, and 10K plus over that.

I mean I'm happy about VS, and I've proudly backed it. I just think some fans are overestimating how much support it will get. I don't expect all the tiers to be met, I'll be shocked even if tier 1 gets met. I hope I'm wrong, but 20K backers seems like a LOT at this point. I just think next to the juggernauts (no pun intended) of Star wars and Marvel, we as Transformers fans kind of forget how small we are in comparison.

Just as an example, there was an interesting debate on the toy industry as a whole this past Sunday between 2 very different YouTube personalities.



The first 30 minutes or so is skipable because one of the debaters had bad internet. But many of the problems of production, distribution etc. were discussed. No answers unfortunately, but it was an interesting watch nonetheless. Haslab was mentioned MANY times however, but I don't know if Transformers as a brand was ever even mentioned Compared to DC, Marvel, and Star Wars. (Also MOTU was mentioned as lot, but mostly because one of the debaters used to work for Mattel)


Transformers wasn't mentionned because unlike Marvel, Star Wars, DC and MOTU, most of the toys that were consistently on shelves in the TF section in the past 5 years were obviously for kids (as was the network TV shows they were linked to). So TFs wouldn't work with the debate.
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Posted by Sabrblade on September 29th, 2021 @ 10:43am CDT
Victory Saber funded!

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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 29th, 2021 @ 10:49am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Victory Saber funded!

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Holy crap, it was at 9600 this morning the last time I checked. A 2000 mid-day boost, nice!
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Posted by Mindmaster on September 29th, 2021 @ 11:03am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Victory Saber funded!

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Ladies and gentlemen…. We got ‘em!

Now to be extra careful with my spending with my next paycheck… :-s
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Posted by o.supreme on September 29th, 2021 @ 11:16am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Victory Saber funded!

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Holy crap, it was at 9600 this morning the last time I checked. A 2000 mid-day boost, nice!



Same. not sure if this came from 3rd party retailers, or TT Mall orders, but cool that it is done. With a little more than 11 days, the V-Lock cannon now doesn't seem so out of reach ;)^
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Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 29th, 2021 @ 11:24am CDT
I came here to share the great news, only to find everyone else here doing the same =P

ah what the hell



VICTORY SABER IS FUNDED~ :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :APPLAUSE: :BOWDOWN: :DANCE:

11 days, 11 hours and 39 minutes to at least get the cannon~
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117069)
Posted by sol magnus on September 29th, 2021 @ 11:50am CDT
Maybe they counted Japan preorders already? That's a big jump.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117079)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 29th, 2021 @ 12:32pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Maybe they counted Japan preorders already? That's a big jump.


TTMall is taking orders through October 10th, so this could be some from them, but won't be all. I do wonder how much communication they will have between Takara and Hasbro on this. Like it would be great if every time time TTMall gets to another thousand if they sent that to Hasbro to update the numbers rather than us not getting any update until the last day. Hopefully they learned from Unicron and are doing something like that now.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117080)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 29th, 2021 @ 12:38pm CDT
Let's hope the backers will at least double until the end so that we unlock the most stretch goals possible.

Also, one thing that is perfect is most of us will not have to deal with random unreliable store distribution to get Victory Saber.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117089)
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CDT


Great news, with 11 days to go and a bunch of Japanese orders yet to happen, the Victory Saber set has been funded. We are past 11000 units.

There is always hesitance to projects like these and now that we know it is getting funded, there may be less hesitance and more people backing it, which will hopefully increase the numbers and get the remaining tiers. Also, the Japanese orders have only been open for 2 days and this is a character that is more known in that market.

People in Japan can order it here: https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g8202200211686/

People in Canada, US and UK can order here: https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... tory-saber

You can also use that link to see the number of backers (currently 11674).

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Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117094)
Posted by Autobot N on September 29th, 2021 @ 1:48pm CDT
Ah victory.jpg
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117095)
Posted by sol magnus on September 29th, 2021 @ 1:56pm CDT
I plan on ordering a second perhaps a day before the crowdfunding ends, so at least one more. lol
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117096)
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 29th, 2021 @ 2:06pm CDT
Excellent news. Though I suppose it shouldn't be too surprising, considering Japan is where Star Saber was first created...
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117103)
Posted by God Sunstreaker on September 29th, 2021 @ 2:21pm CDT
Thanks for this update. I'm really on the fence with this.

I have the Masterpiece Star Saber.  And I have a "stand-in"/"third-party" "Victory Leo" (once I realized Takara wasn't going to make an official one I picked one up). With both figures I have the "V Lock Cannon", stands, and the Shield.  And they're sized at a commander class scale which fits nicely with the CW Liokaiser and the other Combiner wars figures.  The MP-Star Saber is scaled weird in that it fits better next to the generations line then the masterpiece line.  Anyway, Now that the haslab Victory Saber is funded I have to decide if having a smaller and probably lesser quality version is worth the $180, and this is just to have the Haslab.  

If this thing doesn't have all the tier accessories then it's going to be incomplete compared to what I already have.  Spending $180 on an incomplete figure when I have very nice versions already is not logical.  Even if it's fully funded it's smaller and it won't have the small sword for Saber.

 I just wish that this was some generations pre-order.  My guess is that Hasbro is testing the waters on Victory.  They probably have concepts for the new Legacy line and are trying to decide if they want to produce Victory figures.  The release of this figure could coincide with several other Victor figures and then this Victory Saber will be the centerpiece of the Legacy Line.  

It's just frustrating in that Unicron was special: the largest Transformer ever, closest thing ever released to a proper Unicron was the Armada Unicron from 20 years ago.  Comparing the Unicrons I could rationalize the high price and the crowd funding route.  But it's difficult to rationalize this Haslab Victory Saber project when comparing it to the Masterpiece Star Saber the the "Victory Leo".

I also wish I had more than another few days to decide.   
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117104)
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2021 @ 2:40pm CDT
God Sunstreaker wrote:Thanks for this update. I'm really on the fence with this.

I have the Masterpiece Star Saber.  And I have a "stand-in"/"third-party" "Victory Leo" (once I realized Takara wasn't going to make an official one I picked one up). With both figures I have the "V Lock Cannon", stands, and the Shield.  And they're sized at a commander class scale which fits nicely with the CW Liokaiser and the other Combiner wars figures.  The MP-Star Saber is scaled weird in that it fits better next to the generations line then the masterpiece line.  Anyway, Now that the haslab Victory Saber is funded I have to decide if having a smaller and probably lesser quality version is worth the $180, and this is just to have the Haslab.  

If this thing doesn't have all the tier accessories then it's going to be incomplete compared to what I already have.  Spending $180 on an incomplete figure when I have very nice versions already is not logical.  Even if it's fully funded it's smaller and it won't have the small sword for Saber.

 I just wish that this was some generations pre-order.  My guess is that Hasbro is testing the waters on Victory.  They probably have concepts for the new Legacy line and are trying to decide if they want to produce Victory figures.  The release of this figure could coincide with several other Victor figures and then this Victory Saber will be the centerpiece of the Legacy Line.  

It's just frustrating in that Unicron was special: the largest Transformer ever, closest thing ever released to a proper Unicron was the Armada Unicron from 20 years ago.  Comparing the Unicrons I could rationalize the high price and the crowd funding route.  But it's difficult to rationalize this Haslab Victory Saber project when comparing it to the Masterpiece Star Saber the the "Victory Leo".

I also wish I had more than another few days to decide.   


Firstly, you are comparing a decision made only by Takara to a decision made by Hasbro, I wouldn't do that.

Secondky I don't think this toy is a lesser quality than the MP which had QA misteps itself. We don't know anything about how this one feels like of course, but not all MPs have aged well. MP Magnus, for instance, sucks major balls if judged by today's standards. The WFC Magnus toys are better in most ways.

In the end, unless 180$ is money you need to feed your family next month, just order this one. You'll be able to sell it for more than you paid if ever you don't like it once you've played with it.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117105)
Posted by God Sunstreaker on September 29th, 2021 @ 3:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
God Sunstreaker wrote:Thanks for this update. I'm really on the fence with this.

I have the Masterpiece Star Saber.  And I have a "stand-in"/"third-party" "Victory Leo" (once I realized Takara wasn't going to make an official one I picked one up). With both figures I have the "V Lock Cannon", stands, and the Shield.  And they're sized at a commander class scale which fits nicely with the CW Liokaiser and the other Combiner wars figures.  The MP-Star Saber is scaled weird in that it fits better next to the generations line then the masterpiece line.  Anyway, Now that the haslab Victory Saber is funded I have to decide if having a smaller and probably lesser quality version is worth the $180, and this is just to have the Haslab.  

If this thing doesn't have all the tier accessories then it's going to be incomplete compared to what I already have.  Spending $180 on an incomplete figure when I have very nice versions already is not logical.  Even if it's fully funded it's smaller and it won't have the small sword for Saber.

 I just wish that this was some generations pre-order.  My guess is that Hasbro is testing the waters on Victory.  They probably have concepts for the new Legacy line and are trying to decide if they want to produce Victory figures.  The release of this figure could coincide with several other Victor figures and then this Victory Saber will be the centerpiece of the Legacy Line.  

It's just frustrating in that Unicron was special: the largest Transformer ever, closest thing ever released to a proper Unicron was the Armada Unicron from 20 years ago.  Comparing the Unicrons I could rationalize the high price and the crowd funding route.  But it's difficult to rationalize this Haslab Victory Saber project when comparing it to the Masterpiece Star Saber the the "Victory Leo".

I also wish I had more than another few days to decide.   


Firstly, you are comparing a decision made only by Takara to a decision made by Hasbro, I wouldn't do that.

Secondky I don't think this toy is a lesser quality than the MP which had QA misteps itself. We don't know anything about how this one feels like of course, but not all MPs have aged well. MP Magnus, for instance, sucks major balls if judged by today's standards. The WFC Magnus toys are better in most ways.

In the end, unless 180$ is money you need to feed your family next month, just order this one. You'll be able to sell it for more than you paid if ever you don't like it once you've played with it.


Interesting points and for the fun of debate I'll address them. :)

Hasbro and Takara can and do make decisions together. I'm personally not concerned on how they make decisions though. It's more along the lines of do they produce good stuff. I do wish they addressed and compared the original G1 release as well as the Masterpiece.

MP-Star Saber is one of my favorite figures. I've since boxed up most of my figures and just have a few of my favorites out. I'm not really looking to collect everything anymore. And I'm just kind of looking for a nice version of characters at this point. An example: I haven't purchased Earthrise/Kingdom Prime because I tracked down a KPP MP010V years before the WFC line existed: It's my go to Prime. I keep thinking about dropping $50, but I have the luxury of being on the fence. And it's the same with Megtron, I tracked down a Heggemon before the Siege and Earthrise Megatron's existed and I still haven't spent the cash on those. I also have the luxury of reading reviews and knowing what I'm getting. With the Haslab there's nothing that stands out as great other than the fact that this was designed to be combined.

I can afford $180 sure: but with a family and having other needs, just dropping the money for a maybe is, well, a tough choice, but a nice choice to have.

Since I already have a Star Saber that I really like do I really want another one?

Thanks for the reply and giving me something to think about.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117106)
Posted by william-james88 on September 29th, 2021 @ 3:29pm CDT
God Sunstreaker wrote: With the Haslab there's nothing that stands out as great other than the fact that this was designed to be combined.


It's 100% true, but also the entire reason for existence of this figure. The first time we have this since G1. So it's a pretty big stand out. Just for fun, to me it's kinda like not being sure about getting kingdom Primal when one already has the non transforming RED Primal. There's nothing that stands out as great other than the fact that Kingdom Primal was designed to transform :lol: (But yes, I get it, it's not a great equivalent since you're MP Sabre can combine with your 3p Leo)

I would still get this one just in case. 180$ is less than the 350$ or more it might cost you years from now if you get second doubts.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117109)
Posted by griftimus prime on September 29th, 2021 @ 3:40pm CDT
sitting this one out. enjoy to whoever got it.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117110)
Posted by sol magnus on September 29th, 2021 @ 3:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
God Sunstreaker wrote: With the Haslab there's nothing that stands out as great other than the fact that this was designed to be combined.


It's 100% true, but also the entire reason for existence of this figure. The first time we have this since G1. So it's a pretty big stand out. Just for fun, to me it's kinda like not being sure about getting kingdom Primal when one already has the non transforming RED Primal. There's nothing that stands out as great other than the fact that Kingdom Primal was designed to transform :lol: (But yes, I get it, it's not a great equivalent since you're MP Sabre can combine with your 3p Leo)

I would still get this one just in case. 180$ is less than the 350$ or more it might cost you years from now if you get second doubts.

To say nothing of the figure being limited to whatever the final number is, not to exceed whatever the last stretch goal is. If nothing else, you will have easy money if you decide not to keep it some point down the line.
Re: Haslab Victory Saber will Soon be Available to Back in Japan (2117118)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 29th, 2021 @ 4:09pm CDT
If I didn't want it (and I do), I wouldn't get it.

Every time I let myself be talked into buying a figure I regret it. Even if it's a perfectly good figure, even if everyone gushes about it, I could have done without it. I'm not into selling; these aren't investments for me.

Of course if you are into the selling aspect of the hobby, then that's a very valid reason to get it even if you don't want it yourself.

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