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Comment by shajaki
Feb 13, 2015
Anyone interested in Has/Tak comparison shots?
So has anyone else noticed the guns added to the thighs of Takaras Superion? it fills him out a little more, i think it helps the overall aesthetic
So has anyone else noticed the guns added to the thighs of Takaras Superion? it fills him out a little more, i think it helps the overall aesthetic
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Comment by peaces
Feb 13, 2015
good idea with the guns on the thighs. just did it to mine. looks great.
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Comment by Va'al
Feb 13, 2015
I prefer the Hasbro version, seeing them side by side. 
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Comment by william-james88
Feb 13, 2015
There are a few reasons I opted for Takara's over Hasbro's. Firstly, it actually comes out cheaper than buying the hasbro version locally at walmart. It come to about the same price if I waitied for a sale and plus I would be waiting forever for slingshot (I can always get the alpha barvo mold as blades later).
Secondly, while the deco is better, the big part of the deco that gets me giddy is the superion chest. Let me explain.
The character model has Silverbolt's chest transform into Superion's chest and they are very different color wise. Silverbolt's chest in the G1 cartoon is red but seperated by white while Superion is red all across (except for a small patch).
Due to the engineering of back then, the G1 toy could not do that so the chest was a full red for both Superion and Silverbolt since it didnt really transform.
However, the new updated Combiner Wars toys have the engineering so that whatever chest Silverbolt has, Superion doesnt necessarily have to share it. And indeed, the transformation into a torso is quite involved and the same chest peices are not reused. And yet, Hasbro's lazy paint job doesnt showcase that at all since you still end up with a full red chest for both Silverbolt and Superion.
However, Takara does make the most of this great tnrasformation by showcasing how the torso has morphed and is far from just being Silverbolt's chest. And for once, the color change on the chest is very visible. This may look small, but it is a big deal for me since it highlights the evolution in engineering of these wonderful toys.
Secondly, while the deco is better, the big part of the deco that gets me giddy is the superion chest. Let me explain.
The character model has Silverbolt's chest transform into Superion's chest and they are very different color wise. Silverbolt's chest in the G1 cartoon is red but seperated by white while Superion is red all across (except for a small patch).
Due to the engineering of back then, the G1 toy could not do that so the chest was a full red for both Superion and Silverbolt since it didnt really transform.
However, the new updated Combiner Wars toys have the engineering so that whatever chest Silverbolt has, Superion doesnt necessarily have to share it. And indeed, the transformation into a torso is quite involved and the same chest peices are not reused. And yet, Hasbro's lazy paint job doesnt showcase that at all since you still end up with a full red chest for both Silverbolt and Superion.
However, Takara does make the most of this great tnrasformation by showcasing how the torso has morphed and is far from just being Silverbolt's chest. And for once, the color change on the chest is very visible. This may look small, but it is a big deal for me since it highlights the evolution in engineering of these wonderful toys.
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Comment by shajaki
Feb 13, 2015
and im SUUUURE alpha bravo has nothing to do with it...Va'al wrote:I prefer the Hasbro version, seeing them side by side.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Feb 13, 2015
Are we sure that blades is going to be a remold and not a new mold (or at least a remold like chromia)
Also I like takara's silverbolt better than hasbro but the rest are the same and I will take new over old, so hasbro for me
Also I like takara's silverbolt better than hasbro but the rest are the same and I will take new over old, so hasbro for me
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Nope.
Comment by Va'al
Feb 13, 2015
shajaki wrote:and im SUUUURE alpha bravo has nothing to do with it...Va'al wrote:I prefer the Hasbro version, seeing them side by side.
Nope.
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He was shown on a comic cover as part of Defensor: Blades' tail piece looks remarkably like Alpha Bravo's, only in red, plus he follows the arm transformation exactly.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Feb 13, 2015
ZeroWolf wrote:Are we sure that blades is going to be a remold and not a new mold (or at least a remold like chromia)
He was shown on a comic cover as part of Defensor: Blades' tail piece looks remarkably like Alpha Bravo's, only in red, plus he follows the arm transformation exactly.
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Comment by shajaki
Feb 13, 2015
my thoughts on Hasbro VS Takara:
Air Raid
i think i like hasbros more. that gold trim looks really nice, and the extra red spot on his shins pops better than takaras silver.
Skydive
pretty much the same, but takaras is just hasbros +1. black on the ribs and red on the shins makes him better. its just math folks.
Fireflight
takara wins for having less blue. i also like how the silver "trims" the sculpted parts of the chest.
Silverbolt
that yellow, looks kinda bad in the pics. but its spot on accurate. while hasbros orange/gold is really nice, i gotta go accuracy. the little things like gold knees and silver shoulders go a long way too. takara wins.
Superion
over-all, takaras snow white just looks nicer (also, big points for white hands/feet). combiner head has his needed gold antenna. and the crotch, being red all the way across give it a faux attachment piece look. as does the almost solid white chest with red center piece.
over-all, takara wins for me!
Air Raid
i think i like hasbros more. that gold trim looks really nice, and the extra red spot on his shins pops better than takaras silver.
Skydive
pretty much the same, but takaras is just hasbros +1. black on the ribs and red on the shins makes him better. its just math folks.
Fireflight
takara wins for having less blue. i also like how the silver "trims" the sculpted parts of the chest.
Silverbolt
that yellow, looks kinda bad in the pics. but its spot on accurate. while hasbros orange/gold is really nice, i gotta go accuracy. the little things like gold knees and silver shoulders go a long way too. takara wins.
Superion
over-all, takaras snow white just looks nicer (also, big points for white hands/feet). combiner head has his needed gold antenna. and the crotch, being red all the way across give it a faux attachment piece look. as does the almost solid white chest with red center piece.
over-all, takara wins for me!
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Comment by Va'al
Feb 13, 2015
You're obviously wrong. Because where is Alpha Bravo?
Exactly.
Suckers.
Exactly.
Suckers.
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Hmm he could still be a retool since reports were saying he was more futuristic looking. Then again I'm buying him anyways so I can have rotor arms
Comment by ZeroWolf
Feb 13, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Are we sure that blades is going to be a remold and not a new mold (or at least a remold like chromia)
He was shown on a comic cover as part of Defensor: Blades' tail piece looks remarkably like Alpha Bravo's, only in red, plus he follows the arm transformation exactly.
Hmm he could still be a retool since reports were saying he was more futuristic looking. Then again I'm buying him anyways so I can have rotor arms
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If it's a re-tool it's going to be the absolute minimum they can get away with to make it different. Look at the rest of the line. EVERYTHING is getting repainted and re-purposed at least twice and they are hauling in crap from 2 lines (or further) back and repainting and re-purposing THAT stuff as well. It's not going to be a matter of what figure, it's going to be what color do you want any figure in because you are going to have 6 different paint schemes to choose from.
Comment by CrankyOldTruck
Feb 13, 2015
ZeroWolf wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Are we sure that blades is going to be a remold and not a new mold (or at least a remold like chromia)
He was shown on a comic cover as part of Defensor: Blades' tail piece looks remarkably like Alpha Bravo's, only in red, plus he follows the arm transformation exactly.
Hmm he could still be a retool since reports were saying he was more futuristic looking. Then again I'm buying him anyways so I can have rotor arms
If it's a re-tool it's going to be the absolute minimum they can get away with to make it different. Look at the rest of the line. EVERYTHING is getting repainted and re-purposed at least twice and they are hauling in crap from 2 lines (or further) back and repainting and re-purposing THAT stuff as well. It's not going to be a matter of what figure, it's going to be what color do you want any figure in because you are going to have 6 different paint schemes to choose from.
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Or maybe that's because Scramble city toys were so generic interchangeable in the first place.
Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Feb 13, 2015
CrankyOldTruck wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Are we sure that blades is going to be a remold and not a new mold (or at least a remold like chromia)
He was shown on a comic cover as part of Defensor: Blades' tail piece looks remarkably like Alpha Bravo's, only in red, plus he follows the arm transformation exactly.
Hmm he could still be a retool since reports were saying he was more futuristic looking. Then again I'm buying him anyways so I can have rotor arms
If it's a re-tool it's going to be the absolute minimum they can get away with to make it different. Look at the rest of the line. EVERYTHING is getting repainted and re-purposed at least twice and they are hauling in crap from 2 lines (or further) back and repainting and re-purposing THAT stuff as well. It's not going to be a matter of what figure, it's going to be what color do you want any figure in because you are going to have 6 different paint schemes to choose from.
Or maybe that's because Scramble city toys were so generic interchangeable in the first place.
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Comment by peaces
Feb 13, 2015
fun? bah humbug
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Comment by Cyberpath
Feb 13, 2015
I take it the Takara version will be available only as a set?
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Yup. Hasbro and TakaraTomy are opposites in that regard.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Feb 13, 2015
Cyberpath wrote:I take it the Takara version will be available only as a set?
Yup. Hasbro and TakaraTomy are opposites in that regard.
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Thanks A32! I could not find this thread that's why I posted it in TAV. Must need to ugrade by spectacles
Comment by fenrir72
Feb 13, 2015
Autobot032 wrote:Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian, fenrir72, we were directed to the link of Amiami's higher resolution and non-watermarked copies of the previously seen promotional photos for the upcoming TakaraTomy Unite Warriors Aerialbots set. The updated images feature Slingshot in better detail as well, and as expected, all of the figures feature different decos from their Hasbro counterparts including their weapons and combiner weapons/appendages.
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Thanks A32! I could not find this thread that's why I posted it in TAV. Must need to ugrade by spectacles
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Comment by Sabrblade
Feb 13, 2015
Something to note about Hasbro's deco. While Takara went full on cartoon-accurate with theirs, the Hasbro deco leaned more towards toy-accurate, especially with Silverbolt's robot mode color layout, his gold color and its layout, and with the wing designs on Firefly, Skydive, and Air Raid.
However, there is one thing on Hasbro's Superion that was deliberately not colored toy-accurate, but was not colored show-accurate either: Superion's face. The original toy had a face with a mouth and nose under the visor, while the cartoon model had a mouthplate instead. A dark gray mouthplate. Notice that Hasbro's CW Superion instead has a bright silver mouthplate instead of being either toy-accurate black or show-accurate dark gray? Well, there is a reason for that.
The original toy was not the only place in the 1980s that depicted Superion with a mouth instead of a mouthplate. Japanese magazines illustrations and manga, like those dran by Studio Ox and such, retained the toy's mouthed face instead of drawing the cartoon model's mouthplate, even despite the version of Superion portrayed in that Japanese media being the same person as the cartoon version. What's more is that the few Japanese illustrations that were colored instead of in black and white had Superion's mouth area colored light gray/silver instead of toy-accurate black or show-accurate dark gray.
Fast forward to today with Hasbro's CW Superion having a light silver-colored mouthplate serving as a compromise between all of his 1980s media depictions. The mouthplate is from the cartoon, but its silver coloring is from the Japanese illustrations, such as these ones:
Also notice the Autobot-y blue visor the colored ones, when the original toy had a yellow visor, the cartoon had a Decepticon-y red visor, and both the Hasbro and Takara new Superions have red visors.
However, there is one thing on Hasbro's Superion that was deliberately not colored toy-accurate, but was not colored show-accurate either: Superion's face. The original toy had a face with a mouth and nose under the visor, while the cartoon model had a mouthplate instead. A dark gray mouthplate. Notice that Hasbro's CW Superion instead has a bright silver mouthplate instead of being either toy-accurate black or show-accurate dark gray? Well, there is a reason for that.
The original toy was not the only place in the 1980s that depicted Superion with a mouth instead of a mouthplate. Japanese magazines illustrations and manga, like those dran by Studio Ox and such, retained the toy's mouthed face instead of drawing the cartoon model's mouthplate, even despite the version of Superion portrayed in that Japanese media being the same person as the cartoon version. What's more is that the few Japanese illustrations that were colored instead of in black and white had Superion's mouth area colored light gray/silver instead of toy-accurate black or show-accurate dark gray.
Fast forward to today with Hasbro's CW Superion having a light silver-colored mouthplate serving as a compromise between all of his 1980s media depictions. The mouthplate is from the cartoon, but its silver coloring is from the Japanese illustrations, such as these ones:
Also notice the Autobot-y blue visor the colored ones, when the original toy had a yellow visor, the cartoon had a Decepticon-y red visor, and both the Hasbro and Takara new Superions have red visors.
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Me too, I prefer the extra bits of colour in both Firefly (blue) and Air Raid (gold). I also prefer the black hands/feet on Hasbro's Superion. It's not as accurate but it doesn't over-do the white and does well to break things up.
For the sake of accuracy I will still get Slingshot. I'll pose Alpha Bravo as a standalone figure, as he's a cool little dude in his own right.
Now here's the thing. What with Takara going for character accuracy, I fully expect to see Menasor with Wildrider, but what's going to happen with Defensor? Groove is already there, just as a Legends figure to add on to the chest. I doubt that Takara will re-design him as a Deluxe to replace Rook.
Comment by Syn_13
Feb 15, 2015
Va'al wrote:I prefer the Hasbro version, seeing them side by side.
Me too, I prefer the extra bits of colour in both Firefly (blue) and Air Raid (gold). I also prefer the black hands/feet on Hasbro's Superion. It's not as accurate but it doesn't over-do the white and does well to break things up.
For the sake of accuracy I will still get Slingshot. I'll pose Alpha Bravo as a standalone figure, as he's a cool little dude in his own right.
Now here's the thing. What with Takara going for character accuracy, I fully expect to see Menasor with Wildrider, but what's going to happen with Defensor? Groove is already there, just as a Legends figure to add on to the chest. I doubt that Takara will re-design him as a Deluxe to replace Rook.
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Comment by ZeroWolf
Feb 15, 2015
Or they'll borrow a mold from computron and retool it to make groove
