IDW Transformers: Lost Light Series Running to at Least Issue 25, EJ Su to do Linework for Issue 19

Also, I promise the review will be coming! Paperwork and apartment hunting has taken a lot of time away from me this week!

This is good news indeed. Here's hoping whatever follows is Lost Light 26, MTMTE 83, or something more-or-less equivalent!

I care more to see EJ Su than anything else. I have missed his work for a long time. When he did some cover are during dark Cybertron and last year I was thrilled.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those keeping track, with issue 15 having come out this past month (February) and the recent Solicitations showing that issue 18 is set to come in May, this means Lost Light will be running till December, when issue 25 will be coming out.

That's a nice assumption, thinking IDW will be able to keep to its infamously bad scheduling.

I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

Nexus Knight wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:For those keeping track, with issue 15 having come out this past month (February) and the recent Solicitations showing that issue 18 is set to come in May, this means Lost Light will be running till December, when issue 25 will be coming out.

That's a nice assumption, thinking IDW will be able to keep to its infamously bad scheduling.

They’re already back in schedule and it’s not just IDWs fault. MTMTE got delayed quite a bit sometimes and Milne took full responsibility. When he found out he wasn’t on LL he fully admitted he couldn’t keep up. A lot of the times it is the artist or the writer.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?

No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.

Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.

He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I’m gonna call it now and say LL will have nothing to do with unicron. 19-25 will be Rodomus, getaway and the scavengers with maybe Fort Max and Red Alert all coming together to Cyberutpia and concluding that story.

I think we’ll go back to one comic. I think we need to at this point but with both John and James. Like Dark Cybertron. John does story and James does the characters. It’s their strengths. Death of Optimus Prime is one the best comics we’ve gotten and it’s beciase it played on both their strengths

Interesting and cautiously optimistic news that LL will be going through #25. I assume then that OP will go through (by the same token) to issue #26. If they both end in December 2018 culminating in the end of the Unicron event I'll be satisfied. January 2019 would be a nice even place to start again, unlike the summer/fall of 2016 when they abruptly ended MTMTE & TF (and cut what could have been a really cool Titans Return story way short...) to start the whole mess that is the Hasbroverse.

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?

No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.

Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.

He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.

Ah I see, though I'm a little confused as to why that's a bad thing, like the example you give, what's so wrong with that? It's something that plays with visuals (like the scene where night beat and nautica are looking into brainstorms suitcase and time gets a lil weird.) It seems more to me that roberts adopts more of a comedy approach which again, I feel is fine as there shouldn't be anything you can't attempt with comics.

I also don't see the problem with borrowing TV lingo for story arcs as comics have always had things like: whatever event: part 2 of 6. I'd he wants to call a bunch of story arcs a season then that's fine, can't see why it would cause a fuss.

I picked up #14 & #15 today and there is a definite difference in paper quality between the 2 issues. Probably that cost saving move helped extend it.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I kinda figured that's where it was going to stop. It's a nice round number, it's the end of the year, and it gives us 82 issues, just about the same as the G1 comics.

I'm guessing that the Unicron arc will go from 19 to 25, making up the final trade. Hopefully after this book is done, Roberts hands it off to someone else, someone who can write comics like comics and not like TV series. Maybe he should go and try to write actual TV series if he likes that style so much.

I think after the event we'll just have two separate ongoing support with different casts.

Though why do you say he's more of a TV writer? Is it just because his stuff works better when binged?

No it’s because he just does. That’s been a statement by people for years now that Roberts writes like he’s writing a TV show. The two part about charisma aliens? That’s straight out of Red Dwarf. Some(not me) even accused him of ripping off red dwarf and other British shows. Swearth is a straight up episode of a show. Tailgate and Cyclonus are literally hanging out in the “friends” apartment. There’s numerous jokes and references to Community too.

Roberts himself refers to post dark Cybertron to dying of the light as Season Two and LL as season three. No one does that with comics.

He’s always treated his comics as if they’re TV shows and that’s kind of always been a big problem I’ve had with his writing because those are two very different medias. Sometimes it works and other times it just fails like cutting back and forth between Rung and Functionist Rung both explaining and discovering their purpose at the same time. That’s how TV works not comics.

Ah I see, though I'm a little confused as to why that's a bad thing, like the example you give, what's so wrong with that? It's something that plays with visuals (like the scene where night beat and nautica are looking into brainstorms suitcase and time gets a lil weird.) It seems more to me that roberts adopts more of a comedy approach which again, I feel is fine as there shouldn't be anything you can't attempt with comics.

I also don't see the problem with borrowing TV lingo for story arcs as comics have always had things like: whatever event: part 2 of 6. I'd he wants to call a bunch of story arcs a season then that's fine, can't see why it would cause a fuss.

The main reason I said that was because Roberts himself practically admitted it, and because the pacing of his writing is like a TV show. The stories wouldn't be so bad if he would keep a steady pace of setting things up and then delivering on them, and not just leave details and story lines seemingly unfinished and then expect us to remember everything when he suddenly comes back to some small detail 6 months later. It's the erratic pacing (or plotting, whichever is more appropriate) that annoys me the most. For this reason, his stories are better when binged. This is why I don't like reading the individual issues, just get the trades when a story arc is over. Most of MTMTE's stories were pretty good reads when I read them as a whole, except the last 2. Dying of the Light was such a disappointment, and it couldn't even be blamed on horrible pacing, it was just a bad ending to what promised to be a great story. I reserve full judgment on LL until it is actually over and I read the whole thing from issue 1 to 25. So far I'm not impressed, but who knows, it could get good. The last 2 issues were an improvement over the previous 6 or 7. So we'll see. Again, that's what I mean about pacing. So uneven. Just exposes the flaws of Roberts' writing even more.

Good, I hope this entire comic series burns in hell, it's been terrible from start to finish.

Then why did you read it for so long? Normally if something doesn't click with me after three-four issues we part ways.

From the usual source of iTunes, the first three pages of Transformers: Lost Light #16 are now available. This quick preview is light on the dialogue, but heavy on the mystery and intrigue. The start of a three part story titled "The Everlasting Voices", the first entry is titled "Metastasis". With the end of #15 teasing with the word "threnody", the signs are there that surely everything will go just fine with a perfectly happy ending for everyone's favorite characters.

This latest chapter of Lost Light is set for release on March 14, 2018, making it the fourth entry of the series in just seven weeks at that point. Who knew Transformers comics had gone bi-weekly? The preview pages are mirrored below, featuring the writing of James Roberts, line art by Jack Lawrence, and colors by (presumably) Joana Lafuente.







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Interesting, now how will this tie into things. My guess is that none of them are actually there physically. Also anyone else get the feeling that Cyclonus is seeing something different?

ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, now how will this tie into things. My guess is that none of them are actually there physically. Also anyone else get the feeling that Cyclonus is seeing something different?

I think he's seeing Tailgate. that's my guess

Lost Light news has been coming hard and fast as of recent! With EJ Su confirmed to do artwork, The series to run to issue 25, and Issue 16's preview, making it the potential 4th Lost Light to be released in 2 months and finally back on schedule, all revealed, we thought we couldn't get any more news.

Well, we were wrong.

Thanks once more to James Roberts Twitter page, we have 2 new pieces of news to share with you tonight. The first news is that, following the spectacular return of EJ Su to interior work, we have word that issue 20 will be handled by yet another long time Transformers artist new to the series: Casey Coller!. Coller will be the guest artist for issue 20 of the series, and we are looking forward to finally seeing him on Lost Light interiors.

The 2nd piece of news is a 1-page penciled preview of EJ Su's artwork for issue 19! Check it out below, and let us know what you think of this newest piece of Lost Light news!

Seems mildly interesting. Still soured after the last two issues. Might read my GF's copy to see if it redeems itself.

I also think Cyclonus is seeing something else. So Rodimus is having a Matrix vision. Maybe he'll get it back and become Rodimus Prime just in time for Unicron to show up.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I also think Cyclonus is seeing something else. So Rodimus is having a Matrix vision. Maybe he'll get it back and become Rodimus Prime just in time for Unicron to show up.

They’re in the same place seeing the same thing.

Here’s no matrix to get back. It’s broken and in Optimus possession. This is a 3 part story.

They’re not going to be part of the Unicron story. That’s going to be only johns thing. James last story will be him tying up his own story of all his characters converging on cyberutopia.

Randomhero wrote:They’re not going to be part of the Unicron story. That’s going to be only johns thing. James last story will be him tying up his own story of all his characters converging on cyberutopia.

I must have missed this information in the news. Can you post a link, please?

ZeroWolf wrote:Then why did you read it for so long? Normally if something doesn't click with me after three-four issues we part ways.

Mostly for the art, and a tiny bit hoping at some point it would get better, sadly, I was wrong on the second part. At least the art has gotten better since they let that clown EJ Su draw it

Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

From the look on his face, maybe Cyclonus sees this:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:From the look on his face, maybe Cyclonus sees this:

Hah,

Nah if that was the case, the panel would show him rolling over the floor laughing, expecting the original cyclonus to break out into a village people song looking like that.

Seriously it looks like hes wearing briefs

I think that it will end up being tailgate as someone else suggested, or, in a curve ball move, he's sees an image of cybertron as it was before the first ark launched.

I was thinking more along the lines of the more uniform aesthetic, the missing Faction Symbol etc. I imagine those things will present themselves soon enough in the "reboot".

Will have to see but I hope not, though the question does become how will they deal with galvatron, his own man? (This approach works best as there's little overlap between megs and galvy) or will they go full revival of megs -> galvy...hang on a moment...you were complaining in another thread about the franchise sticking with too much g1 influence and yet you want cyclonus and other aspects to be more like the sunbow cartoon. You want g1 to be used less then you need to get used to the idea that cyclonus doesn't need to be that boring yes man again. His character may have gone through some retcons but what he's now is infinitely better. I have a feeling that furman would gladly sign off on this new aspect.

Can't wait for the five page preview to come up, though it will be next week (hopefully) before we get answers...apart from those lucky few who get review copies early

No, Sunbow is Dead. G1 is equally gone and if not for the GeeWun "fans" we should have moved beyond it's shadow decades ago.

The nostalgia of G1 always holds back plot progression in virtually everything Transformers that came after. Plot progression in all comics is something I am a strong advocate of. Characters should change, die and not return etc etc

However, Cyclonus current design.. isn't great. His original design is iconic. My point was that yet again, Much like Ultra Magnus, IDW Cyclonus started off as something different and interesting and.. went to the wrong book. G1 has next to no sway over me at all. Beast Wars is king.

Personally I thought Megatron and Galvatron work as separate characters. Although Megatron should have been killed off at an earlier stage. Maybe at the conclusion to CHAOS? When you shed him and Prime, usually the series starts to progress forward.

OK
i have got some sort of braincloud

someone tell me,
why dud Rodimass paint himself?

i cannot recall and cannot find the why.

anyone?

If I recall correctly it was after the comic was rebranded and it was rodimus way of remembering the dead

ZeroWolf wrote:If I recall correctly it was after the comic was rebranded and it was rodimus way of remembering the dead

WHAAA!?

Z3ROhour wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:If I recall correctly it was after the comic was rebranded and it was rodimus way of remembering the dead

WHAAA!?

Drift convinced him to convert to Spectralism and, in doing so, chose a new paint job which represented both mourning and an intent to kill. And also to increase sales of Black Rodimus toys or summat, I dunno.

Would be nice to see evil rodimus make it to the comics but I do wonder what people would think if shattered glass made it to IDW...

ok

ZeroWolf wrote:Would be nice to see evil rodimus make it to the comics but I do wonder what people would think if shattered glass made it to IDW...

I'd think they ran out of ideas. SG was a fun one-off for a Botcon set and can be a way to make neato toy repaints, but it should remain as just that

ScottyP wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Would be nice to see evil rodimus make it to the comics but I do wonder what people would think if shattered glass made it to IDW...

I'd think they ran out of ideas. SG was a fun one-off for a Botcon set and can be a way to make neato toy repaints, but it should remain as just that

Hah you're probably right, and thinking about it, we still have the functionist universe where a good megs is, will be interesting to see what they can do with that.

I think that has often been the case with alternate universe stories: Less is more. My two favourite G1 stories: Peace and Rhythms of Darkness!, clearly illustrate that point. Sometimes to elaborate on the story is to cheapen it.

ZeroWolf wrote:Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

Something that genuinely didn't have Autobots killing each other or betraying each other. I would have preferred them doing anything but what they did.

I felt they quite literally destroyed the characters in the book by how they acted. The Autobots NEVER enjoyed fighting or killing, and NONE of them would certainly have supported Getaway in his mutiny. When you have heroic characters suddenly ok with allowing one guy holding a mutiny and then cutting down their comrades while they RAN is hardly a noble endeavour.

The book has culminated in a garbage fest and IDW shitting all over the characters. It's just sad, especially when the book Started out with more potential when they set off.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:No, Sunbow is Dead. G1 is equally gone and if not for the GeeWun "fans" we should have moved beyond it's shadow decades ago.

The nostalgia of G1 always holds back plot progression in virtually everything Transformers that came after. Plot progression in all comics is something I am a strong advocate of. Characters should change, die and not return etc etc

However, Cyclonus current design.. isn't great. His original design is iconic. My point was that yet again, Much like Ultra Magnus, IDW Cyclonus started off as something different and interesting and.. went to the wrong book. G1 has next to no sway over me at all. Beast Wars is king.

Personally I thought Megatron and Galvatron work as separate characters. Although Megatron should have been killed off at an earlier stage. Maybe at the conclusion to CHAOS? When you shed him and Prime, usually the series starts to progress forward.

This line of thinking is what ruins Transformers.

ScottyP wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Would be nice to see evil rodimus make it to the comics but I do wonder what people would think if shattered glass made it to IDW...

I'd think they ran out of ideas. SG was a fun one-off for a Botcon set and can be a way to make neato toy repaints, but it should remain as just that

I disagree 100%, the Shattered Glass idea was the BEST idea Botcon ever had, I think it would be awesome to see Hasbro do a full on line of repaints as the Evil Autobots and Heroic Decepticons in a SG toyline.

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

Something that genuinely didn't have Autobots killing each other or betraying each other. I would have preferred them doing anything but what they did.

I felt they quite literally destroyed the characters in the book by how they acted. The Autobots NEVER enjoyed fighting or killing, and NONE of them would certainly have supported Getaway in his mutiny. When you have heroic characters suddenly ok with allowing one guy holding a mutiny and then cutting down their comrades while they RAN is hardly a noble endeavour.

The book has culminated in a garbage fest and IDW shitting all over the characters. It's just sad, especially when the book Started out with more potential when they set off.

so you wanted squeaky clean autobots where all were motivated by altruism? I bet you hated marvels civil war event. Autobots fighting each other has been done before and it allows characters to develop, to change, even if that change is for the worst. Your comment to AllNewSuperRobot makes perfect sense now, you just want endless repeats of the g1 toon where nothing changes, it's all a fixed loop of the tired old story formulas repeating until even the most die hard fan gives up in boredom. Stories like lost Light take risks, sometimes you have to wait a while before they pay off (like star saber taking down defensor, I get the feeling that there was more going on then we saw)

Remember this franchise is about robots that change, things changing has been built in since the beginning.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

Something that genuinely didn't have Autobots killing each other or betraying each other. I would have preferred them doing anything but what they did.

I felt they quite literally destroyed the characters in the book by how they acted. The Autobots NEVER enjoyed fighting or killing, and NONE of them would certainly have supported Getaway in his mutiny. When you have heroic characters suddenly ok with allowing one guy holding a mutiny and then cutting down their comrades while they RAN is hardly a noble endeavour.

The book has culminated in a garbage fest and IDW shitting all over the characters. It's just sad, especially when the book Started out with more potential when they set off.

so you wanted squeaky clean autobots where all were motivated by altruism? I bet you hated marvels civil war event. Autobots fighting each other has been done before and it allows characters to develop, to change, even if that change is for the worst. Your comment to AllNewSuperRobot makes perfect sense now, you just want endless repeats of the g1 toon where nothing changes, it's all a fixed loop of the tired old story formulas repeating until even the most die hard fan gives up in boredom. Stories like lost Light take risks, sometimes you have to wait a while before they pay off (like star saber taking down defensor, I get the feeling that there was more going on then we saw)

Remember this franchise is about robots that change, things changing has been built in since the beginning.

That's what someone calls shit writing and no imagination and it's what we've gotten from IDW since they got the licence

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

Something that genuinely didn't have Autobots killing each other or betraying each other. I would have preferred them doing anything but what they did.

I felt they quite literally destroyed the characters in the book by how they acted. The Autobots NEVER enjoyed fighting or killing, and NONE of them would certainly have supported Getaway in his mutiny. When you have heroic characters suddenly ok with allowing one guy holding a mutiny and then cutting down their comrades while they RAN is hardly a noble endeavour.

The book has culminated in a garbage fest and IDW shitting all over the characters. It's just sad, especially when the book Started out with more potential when they set off.

There's a great deal of content explaining how Getaway got away with it. It's ok if you don't like it but this part of the story is thought out, solid, and if it does anything it builds characters. Lost Light 10-12 redeemed many of the Mutineers.

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

Something that genuinely didn't have Autobots killing each other or betraying each other. I would have preferred them doing anything but what they did.

I felt they quite literally destroyed the characters in the book by how they acted. The Autobots NEVER enjoyed fighting or killing, and NONE of them would certainly have supported Getaway in his mutiny. When you have heroic characters suddenly ok with allowing one guy holding a mutiny and then cutting down their comrades while they RAN is hardly a noble endeavour.

The book has culminated in a garbage fest and IDW shitting all over the characters. It's just sad, especially when the book Started out with more potential when they set off.

so you wanted squeaky clean autobots where all were motivated by altruism? I bet you hated marvels civil war event. Autobots fighting each other has been done before and it allows characters to develop, to change, even if that change is for the worst. Your comment to AllNewSuperRobot makes perfect sense now, you just want endless repeats of the g1 toon where nothing changes, it's all a fixed loop of the tired old story formulas repeating until even the most die hard fan gives up in boredom. Stories like lost Light take risks, sometimes you have to wait a while before they pay off (like star saber taking down defensor, I get the feeling that there was more going on then we saw)

Remember this franchise is about robots that change, things changing has been built in since the beginning.

That's what someone calls **** writing and no imagination and it's what we've gotten from IDW since they got the licence

I'm confused which part of my post are you talking about when saying the writing is bad? and no imagination? that doesn't make any sense at all as to come up with new scenarios and new takes on characters you need heaps of imagination. You don't like the series, that's fine we all have our own preferences. However calling the writers bad for not fitting in with your likes is very selfish and childish. The tf writers are good at their craft, if they weren't they wouldn't be working. You still haven't said what you would of preferred by the by.

I'm still hoping that lost Light has something to do in the unicron saga, would be a waste otherwise.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Galactic Prime wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Genuine question: when you say you'd hoped it get better, what kind of story were you expecting/wanting?

Something that genuinely didn't have Autobots killing each other or betraying each other. I would have preferred them doing anything but what they did.

I felt they quite literally destroyed the characters in the book by how they acted. The Autobots NEVER enjoyed fighting or killing, and NONE of them would certainly have supported Getaway in his mutiny. When you have heroic characters suddenly ok with allowing one guy holding a mutiny and then cutting down their comrades while they RAN is hardly a noble endeavour.

The book has culminated in a garbage fest and IDW shitting all over the characters. It's just sad, especially when the book Started out with more potential when they set off.

so you wanted squeaky clean autobots where all were motivated by altruism? I bet you hated marvels civil war event. Autobots fighting each other has been done before and it allows characters to develop, to change, even if that change is for the worst. Your comment to AllNewSuperRobot makes perfect sense now, you just want endless repeats of the g1 toon where nothing changes, it's all a fixed loop of the tired old story formulas repeating until even the most die hard fan gives up in boredom. Stories like lost Light take risks, sometimes you have to wait a while before they pay off (like star saber taking down defensor, I get the feeling that there was more going on then we saw)

Remember this franchise is about robots that change, things changing has been built in since the beginning.

That's what someone calls **** writing and no imagination and it's what we've gotten from IDW since they got the licence

I'm confused which part of my post are you talking about when saying the writing is bad? and no imagination? that doesn't make any sense at all as to come up with new scenarios and new takes on characters you need heaps of imagination. You don't like the series, that's fine we all have our own preferences. However calling the writers bad for not fitting in with your likes is very selfish and childish. The tf writers are good at their craft, if they weren't they wouldn't be working. You still haven't said what you would of preferred by the by.

I'm still hoping that lost Light has something to do in the unicron saga, would be a waste otherwise.

They aren't good at their job. Just because someone has a job does not mean they are always good at it, and these writers are terrible. Their entire story line has been boring, flat, and full of characters not acting anything like they actually are.

It's horrendous from start to finish. You are all free to like it, it doesn't mean that it is not crap. It just means you like crap.

Actually it's your opinion it's crap and our opinions don't match, that's all. Also did I miss the memo where the characters were supposed to act as certain way? Guess wheeljack in armada didn't get the memo or prowl in animated...or arcee in prime and grimlock in the new rid...funny that. Characters can share names without having to act like their tech specs said. Change is important to this franchise.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually it's your opinion it's crap and our opinions don't match, that's all.

Quoted for truth.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually it's your opinion it's crap and our opinions don't match, that's all. Also did I miss the memo where the characters were supposed to act as certain way? Guess wheeljack in armada didn't get the memo or prowl in animated...or arcee in prime and grimlock in the new rid...funny that. Characters can share names without having to act like their tech specs said. Change is important to this franchise.

Like I said, it's fine if you like crap, you're entitled to, doesn't make it any less crappy.