In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas

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Probably the most anticipated deluxe figure of Legacy's second wave is Tarantulas since after that we are just one Predacon away from having the entire season 1 cast of Beast Wars characters. We now have plenty of images of this toy in both modes thanks to a review from Prime vs Prime. He comes with two accessories, one being the circular saw weapon that came with his Transmetal toy. This toy is up for preorder almost everywhere and will be coming out in the summer.

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Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134028)
Posted by sol magnus on May 19th, 2022 @ 7:17pm CDT

Only because Wildrider doesn't complete the Stunticons lol.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134029)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2022 @ 7:29pm CDT

What I wanna see are comparison shots of Legacy Tarantulas with BW 10th Anniversary Tarantulas, which was the most show-accurate version of the original mold.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134032)
Posted by R_Puffs on May 19th, 2022 @ 8:11pm CDT

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:I see there is an image of legacy tarantulas. I hope Prime Vs. Prime or someone gets a hold of that. But from the official 360 degree turnaround it looks perfect. I saw on TFiki that apparently it looks more like a wolf spider than a tarantulas, but I wouldn't know.

Lol I was actually the person who added that to the wiki, as an arthropod enthusiast it bugs the crap out of me that they gave the character whos name is literally the plural of tarantula a beast mode that is a completely different spider. Figure looks amazing though other than that

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134033)
Posted by o.supreme on May 19th, 2022 @ 8:16pm CDT

sol magnus wrote:Only because Wildrider doesn't complete the Stunticons lol.

He doesn't have to, he's still sold out on Hasbro Pulse

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134038)
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2022 @ 9:42pm CDT

o.supreme wrote:
sol magnus wrote:Only because Wildrider doesn't complete the Stunticons lol.

He doesn't have to, he's still sold out on Hasbro Pulse

You are right and Tarantulas is not. Though I still get a greater sense of anticipation for Tarantulas than I do Wildrider because the anticipation isn't for wild rider in and of himself. There's definitely been more critique towards his toy than Tarantulas'.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134041)
Posted by GrangerPerry on May 19th, 2022 @ 11:51pm CDT

There’s something about this figure like they accidentally made him too show accurate or something he just sticks out to me more than the others. But I feel the line took a turn with terrorsaur going full toon mode where every other figure looked more anatomically correct. I love this guy I kind of want them to go back and redo half of the figures lol I’m looking at you Scorponok and cheetor never looked right to me either

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134049)
Posted by Emerje on May 20th, 2022 @ 2:44am CDT

Overcracker wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:I may be one of the only collectors out there who isn't planning to get Jihaxus. It looks OK, but with no attachment to the character, to me it's just another jet.

Nope. Right there with ya.... no attachment to the character, so, skipping him entirely.

I'll wait for the inevitable retool... though I wonder who they can use the mold for that has not already been done recently.

The two prevailing theories seem to be Armada Thrust based on the shape and Armada Starscream who we know is coming in Legacy. Screamer seems the most likely since the two have similar transformations. Cockpit on the chest, arms under the jet, legs in the back. Obviously it would be pretty extensively retooled.

My one complaint about Jhiaxus is I wish he was a little bigger. He's basically the Transformers answer to Thanos, he should be at least as tall as Kingdom Galvatron. Probably not possible at Voyager price and would likely limit how they reuse the mold.

Emerje

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134054)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 20th, 2022 @ 4:44am CDT

Emerje wrote:My one complaint about Jhiaxus is I wish he was a little bigger. He's basically the Transformers answer to Thanos, he should be at least as tall as Kingdom Galvatron. Probably not possible at Voyager price and would likely limit how they reuse the mold.

Emerje

It's still WAY better than what we got previously with that simple DELUXE repaint.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134056)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 20th, 2022 @ 6:30am CDT

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:My one complaint about Jhiaxus is I wish he was a little bigger. He's basically the Transformers answer to Thanos, he should be at least as tall as Kingdom Galvatron. Probably not possible at Voyager price and would likely limit how they reuse the mold.

Emerje

It's still WAY better than what we got previously with that simple DELUXE repaint.

That one worked well as IDW 2005 Jihaxus where he was shown to be smaller then his G2/Regeneration 1 self.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134058)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on May 20th, 2022 @ 7:25am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:My one complaint about Jhiaxus is I wish he was a little bigger. He's basically the Transformers answer to Thanos, he should be at least as tall as Kingdom Galvatron. Probably not possible at Voyager price and would likely limit how they reuse the mold.

Emerje

It's still WAY better than what we got previously with that simple DELUXE repaint.

That one worked well as IDW 2005 Jihaxus where he was shown to be smaller then his G2/Regeneration 1 self.

When I ordered that Jhiaxus years after its release, I thought that it was probably the closest thing that we'd get to the Marvel comics version. Like, at least it was the same guy. Sometimes I don't think we recognize how absolutely spoiled we are as a fandom, the people who make our toys know what we want, even if that means we also get four different Impactors.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134060)
Posted by DeathReviews on May 20th, 2022 @ 8:00am CDT

I was hoping the PvP Tarantulus review would profile more about the spider articulation, but they didn't seem to address that at all. He never touched the spider legs as far as I could tell. I see ball sockets at the mid-joint. But there doesn't seem to be any other articulation on the spider legs. They tab into the body, and they're all connected so they can't move and have to remain fanned out in the same position. If so, that's a disappointment because it robs the alt mode of the potential for some really great posing.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134062)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 20th, 2022 @ 8:31am CDT

AcademyofDrX wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:My one complaint about Jhiaxus is I wish he was a little bigger. He's basically the Transformers answer to Thanos, he should be at least as tall as Kingdom Galvatron. Probably not possible at Voyager price and would likely limit how they reuse the mold.

Emerje

It's still WAY better than what we got previously with that simple DELUXE repaint.

That one worked well as IDW 2005 Jihaxus where he was shown to be smaller then his G2/Regeneration 1 self.

When I ordered that Jhiaxus years after its release, I thought that it was probably the closest thing that we'd get to the Marvel comics version. Like, at least it was the same guy. Sometimes I don't think we recognize how absolutely spoiled we are as a fandom, the people who make our toys know what we want, even if that means we also get four different Impactors.

You know what's really odd? I had it in my head for the longest time that Jihaxus was red and black, until the Legacy toy was revealed. I'd thought this since at least the mid-00s when I fell back into the brand again.

You are absolutely spot on though. I think we can see a lot of this in the Dinobots release and the statements they made about them. It shows that while the brand will always be fir kids in a sense, the designers want to make sure the adults are having fun too.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134066)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 20th, 2022 @ 10:53am CDT

ZeroWolf wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:My one complaint about Jhiaxus is I wish he was a little bigger. He's basically the Transformers answer to Thanos, he should be at least as tall as Kingdom Galvatron. Probably not possible at Voyager price and would likely limit how they reuse the mold.

Emerje

It's still WAY better than what we got previously with that simple DELUXE repaint.

That one worked well as IDW 2005 Jihaxus where he was shown to be smaller then his G2/Regeneration 1 self.

When I ordered that Jhiaxus years after its release, I thought that it was probably the closest thing that we'd get to the Marvel comics version. Like, at least it was the same guy. Sometimes I don't think we recognize how absolutely spoiled we are as a fandom, the people who make our toys know what we want, even if that means we also get four different Impactors.

You know what's really odd? I had it in my head for the longest time that Jihaxus was red and black, until the Legacy toy was revealed. I'd thought this since at least the mid-00s when I fell back into the brand again.

You are absolutely spot on though. I think we can see a lot of this in the Dinobots release and the statements they made about them. It shows that while the brand will always be fir kids in a sense, the designers want to make sure the adults are having fun too.

It really shows what a change from Aaron "NO!" Archer to John :-B

Warden (and now whoever's currently in charge) can do for a brand.

I've said this before and I'll say it again: It's like Warden and Friends (and now the current team) all took notes about everything Archer ever said "NO!" to (G1-accurate designs, Headmasters, full Combiners, G1-accurate Arcee, all five Dinobots, Sky Lynx, etc.), and just decided to give us exactly that.

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Posted by First-Aid on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:25am CDT

I miss Aaron Archer. WHy? Because he said NO to everything. The result was brand diversity, new characters, new molds. Now we get nothing but fanservice and the same characters over and over and over (I think the Seeker count is somewhere in the hundreds of thousands). I know I catch crap for being anti-G1 but I'm finding I'm more and more averse to it because that's ALL WE GET ANYMORE. Even the "new lines" (Cyberverse) are nothing but G1 redux. Is is successful? Maybe. Is it boring as hell? Yup. Same ol same ol. Nothing new. Nothing CREATIVE. No CHANGE. WHy? Because no one is saying NO. It's the spoiled child problem. What happened with the Bayverse designs? "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! NOT G1! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" What happened with TF:Animated? "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Not G1 enough! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" Even with TF Prime..."WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! That's NOT ARCEE! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!"
That eventually changed as the series was absolutely outstanding an revolutionary; same with TF Animated. Did we get continuation for either? Nope. Right back to G1! And now they are G1-izing other lines because they weren't G1 enough. I used to love G1. Frankly though, I'm beyond saturation. I'm curious to see how many others are as well. Can I appreciate it? Not as much as I used to because its EVERYWHERE. It's like COVID...you can't get away from it. It's ruined the joy of G1 for me and it's well on the way to ruining Transformers altogether. We need diversity soon or the dead horse will be beat into little pieces and we'll be looking at 1989 all over again.

Ok, no more coffee for me.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134070)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:33am CDT

What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134071)
Posted by First-Aid on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:36am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

(sniff) Thank you, man. (sniff)

(stands on soapbox)

GIVE ME TRANSTECH, YOU #SSHATS!!!

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134072)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:40am CDT

Personally, I'm not getting as annoyed by G1 as I did when WFC started (specifically when Earthrise started), and it's cause they're branching out a bit. Kingdom and now Legacy feel like a breath of fresh air because even though they were still half G1, at least there were non-G1 options. Legacy's started a little rough with two Prime redesigns (one heavy and one that's mostly faithful imo), but we're seeing them branch out at this point. Granted, I'm still annoyed that SS86 took up a bunch of slots of Studio Series, but that's thankfully calming down and it's returning to a healthier mix.

I don't think G1 needs to go away and be shoved into a box and forgotten about, but I'm a lot happier with the leaks and rumors for Legacy than I was when Earthrise came around, exclusively because Legacy is branching out and not just releasing the same designs as before. We still have an Optimus, we still have a Starscream, and we have an Arcee, but they're not G1 again.

And to undo my entire argument about moving away from G1, I'm still hoping we get a commander class Powermaster Optimus Prime/Ginrai and leader class Apex Bomber/Godbomber and a better version of Jazz with the optional door wings :lol:

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134073)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:41am CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

(sniff) Thank you, man. (sniff)

(stands on soapbox)

GIVE ME TRANSTECH, YOU #SSHATS!!!

Honestly, RID 2015 had the diversity you speak of, but it feels like Cyberverse became so G1-heavy because of all the "Animals SUCK!" backlash that was received by the designs for the Decepticons in RID 2015. By the third season, they were all mostly swapped out by a new take on the Stunticons with all their G1-based flavor. In hindsight, it was probably a sign of things to come.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134074)
Posted by First-Aid on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:51am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

(sniff) Thank you, man. (sniff)

(stands on soapbox)

GIVE ME TRANSTECH, YOU #SSHATS!!!
Honestly, RID 2015 had the diversity you speak of, but it feels like Cyberverse became so G1-heavy because of all the "Animals SUCK!" backlash that was received by the designs for the Decepticons in RID 2015. By the third season, they were all mostly swapped out by a new take on the Stunticons with all their G1-based flavor. In hindsight, it was probably a sign of things to come.

I completely forgot about the RID 15 series. You're right about that. Initially it was a nice change. I think that was the last cartoon series I seriously collected. WHen Cyberverse came around, I was like "WTF?" and stopped to focus on the Bayverse SS line because they were CREATIVE. Say what you want about the quality of the MOVIE product...Bayverse had really unique new designs that, frankly, we'd never seen. Scavenger, Sideswipe, Arcee triplets- wheels for their feet! Makes sense, wheels are way faster than legs and feet...if you can do it, why not? A combiner with EIGHT figures? A vehicular combiner that had a bot make up half of the vehicle mode? New, different, unique. I think that came with the outside perspective that MB brought. He looked at the bots and said "Why don't they...?" rather than saying, "Let's just redo what we've always done" which seems to be the theme now.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134075)
Posted by Rtron on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:57am CDT

First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

(sniff) Thank you, man. (sniff)

(stands on soapbox)

GIVE ME TRANSTECH, YOU #SSHATS!!!
Honestly, RID 2015 had the diversity you speak of, but it feels like Cyberverse became so G1-heavy because of all the "Animals SUCK!" backlash that was received by the designs for the Decepticons in RID 2015. By the third season, they were all mostly swapped out by a new take on the Stunticons with all their G1-based flavor. In hindsight, it was probably a sign of things to come.

I completely forgot about the RID 15 series. You're right about that. Initially it was a nice change. I think that was the last cartoon series I seriously collected. WHen Cyberverse came around, I was like "WTF?" and stopped to focus on the Bayverse SS line because they were CREATIVE. Say what you want about the quality of the MOVIE product...Bayverse had really unique new designs that, frankly, we'd never seen. Scavenger, Sideswipe, Arcee triplets- wheels for their feet! Makes sense, wheels are way faster than legs and feet...if you can do it, why not? A combiner with EIGHT figures? A vehicular combiner that had a bot make up half of the vehicle mode? New, different, unique. I think that came with the outside perspective that MB brought. He looked at the bots and said "Why don't they...?" rather than saying, "Let's just redo what we've always done" which seems to be the theme now.

This is an issue with the american entertainment industry as a whole, so you'll be complaining for a long time. Well, maybe not that long, probably only as long as it takes for Transformers to go the way of the superhero comicbook (since they're opting for the same strategy) and be basically dead. So a decade, give or take.

However, I don't agree that fan service is the problem. I loved WFC, I'm loving Legacy, and Studio Series is great. The problem is there's no alternative. The problem is the Bumblebee movie, and that Botbots got a cartoon like five years too late, and when it did it was some Netflix bare minimum effort stuff.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134077)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 20th, 2022 @ 12:07pm CDT

First-Aid wrote:WHen Cyberverse came around, I was like "WTF?" and stopped to focus on the Bayverse SS line because they were CREATIVE.

On the other hand, Cyberverse did start bringing in non-G1 faces (Cheetor, Clobber, Sky-Byte, Lockdown, Strika Alphastrike, G2 Afterburner), modern additions to G1 not from the 1980s (Windblade, Volcanicus, Slipstream, Tarn, Doublecrosser), lesser-known/obscure G1 characters (Whirl, Rack'n'Ruin, Bludgeon, Acid Storm, Nova Storm, Maccadam, Repugnus, Soundblaster, Bug Bite, Nightbird, the Dweller, Gnaw), and brand new original characters (Thunderhowl, Meteorfire, Hammerbyte, Shadow Striker, Wildwheel, Megatron X, Teletraan-X, Croaton, Iaconus, Biter, Backbite, Sawtooth, Jawsy, the rest of the surfer-dude Sharkticons, the rest of the Monsterbots). It was definitely diverse, character-wise.

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Posted by Till-all-R1 on May 20th, 2022 @ 12:14pm CDT

As someone who dislikes he Baybot designs I'm fine with not seeing them in abundance as they once were, after all they mainly stuck to main characters reissues for them as well so it's not like you were getting a bunch of new stuff consistently with Bayverse either. That said just because I don't care for them does that mean I don't want them released? No, because there are those who do want them but I don't go around crying about how uneven it is every time I get a chance. As G1 Fan the Bayverse years where the most horrid to have to sit around and wait for something I liked so personally it's nice to see some G1 love again.

In fact it's because of this recent resurgence that I actually got back into Transformers while sitting out the whole Bay Movie era, I just don't care for those over complicated looking designs plain and simple. Yet I do think a more even landscape would be beneficial to all so that fans of each source could buy the TF's they're into be it G1, Armada, or the Bay movies etc. Because by having those releases I'm not interested in it saves me Money, my only hope is to get certain G1 characters addressed before I exit.

I do have to admit the G1 look for some of these newer characters like Bulkhead and Knockout look cool and certainly tempt me to get, the fact they're not G1 characters allows me to pass on them in the end because they don't fit my collection. So in that regard they should have just went with the original source material for those characters to appeal to those fans of TF Prime. IDK

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134079)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on May 20th, 2022 @ 12:17pm CDT

Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I'll wait for the inevitable retool... though I wonder who they can use the mold for that has not already been done recently.

The two prevailing theories seem to be Armada Thrust based on the shape and Armada Starscream who we know is coming in Legacy.

Leakers have been adamant that Armada Screamer and Jhiaxus share absolutely nothing this time around, Screamer is supposedly using engineering from the Starscream that was to be included in the "indefinitely postponed"/cancelled TF Rise figure 2-packs.

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Posted by sol magnus on May 20th, 2022 @ 12:24pm CDT

Till-all-R1 wrote:As someone who dislikes he Baybot designs I'm fine with not seeing them in abundance as they once were, after all they mainly stuck to main characters reissues for them as well so it's not like you were getting a bunch of new stuff consistently with Bayverse either. That said just because I don't care for them does that mean I don't want them released? No, because there are those who do want them but I don't go around crying about how uneven it is every time I get a chance. As G1 Fan the Bayverse years where the most horrid to have to sit around and wait for something I liked so personally it's nice to see some G1 love again.

I agree with this. Saying you want more Bayverse characters in my mind means more Bayverse designs, because you count how many 'characters' there are on one hand. he was saying we G1 fans are saying "Waaaagh", but the only ones I see saying "Waaaaggghh" are those who don't want so much G1 - which is fine by me - not everyone has to want G1, but I don't want it at my expense. As a G1 fan, I DO want new characters or characters from other shows/media to be 'G1-ified' because I love the idea that it's all the same sandbox, and G1 is an easier conversion than other properties in the franchise. I love the G1-ification of Barricade, for instance.

In fact it's because of this recent resurgence that I actually got back into Transformers while sitting out the whole Bay Movie era, I just don't care for those over complicated looking designs plain and simple. Yet I do think a more even landscape would be beneficial to all so that fans of each source could buy the TF's they're into be it G1, Armada, or the Bay movies etc. Because by having those releases I'm not interested in it saves me Money, my only hope is to get certain G1 characters addressed before I exit.

Making them all compatible generally gets me to buy more. Armada Starscream? Yes, please. I already mentioned Barricade.

I do have to admit the G1 look for some of these newer characters like Bulkhead and Knockout look cool and certainly tempt me to get, the fact they're not G1 characters allows me to pass on them in the end because they don't fit my collection. So in that regard they should have just went with the original source material for those characters to appeal to those fans of TF Prime. IDK

I actually got Bulkhead. I said I wasn't, but I ended up doing it anyway, and I think he's cool. No, he's not Prime Bulkhead in appearance, but hey - he's crossing over between universes.

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Posted by Overcracker on May 20th, 2022 @ 12:34pm CDT

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:I'll wait for the inevitable retool... though I wonder who they can use the mold for that has not already been done recently.

The two prevailing theories seem to be Armada Thrust based on the shape and Armada Starscream who we know is coming in Legacy.
Leakers have been adamant that Armada Screamer and Jhiaxus share absolutely nothing this time around, Screamer is supposedly using engineering from the Starscream that was to be included in the "indefinitely postponed"/cancelled TF Rise figure 2-packs.

The Jhiaxus mold seems completely separate to Armada Starscream.... seems unlikely they'd use that as basis, more so when SS has at least 3 repaints built in already that can cover the cost of a new mold.

I can buy Armada Thrust since he was a different mold to SS, TC and RJ. But not sure they'd make him a Voyager. He's always been a deluxe even the original mold was a Mega (Armada's Deluxe class).

Still at the very least, whoever gets this mold, will need a new head and new wings.

I keep coming back to Pretender Thunderwing.... seems like the jet and robot mode could possibly be used for him.

Also, don't try to use the Armada Starscream's acronym.... :lol:

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Posted by Rtron on May 20th, 2022 @ 12:37pm CDT

The problem with the "But I came back because they brought back G1 so it's a good plan!" strategy is that, at this point, most fans probably didn't get here from G1. Hell, those of us who got into Transformers with Beast Wars as infants are now close to turning thirty... G1 lasted seven years, but everything after that and before the end of RID 2015 has been something else.

To put inane offtopic debate about things we'll never agree on and none of us have control over aside, I'm glad to hear Armada Starscream is his own mold. Metroplex and Override have got me very excited for him, as there's a good chance that he'll be a proper armada remake and not the pointless mix that Arcee and Bulkhead were.

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Posted by william-james88 on May 20th, 2022 @ 5:33pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

Oh man, so much this!!!!!!!!

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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 20th, 2022 @ 5:42pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

Oh man, so much this!!!!!!!!

Hopefully we'll get it with Earthspark before the inevitable cries of it not being G1 enough

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Posted by william-james88 on May 20th, 2022 @ 6:51pm CDT

Rtron wrote:The problem with the "But I came back because they brought back G1 so it's a good plan!" strategy is that, at this point, most fans probably didn't get here from G1. Hell, those of us who got into Transformers with Beast Wars as infants are now close to turning thirty... G1 lasted seven years, but everything after that and before the end of RID 2015 has been something else.

To put inane offtopic debate about things we'll never agree on and none of us have control over aside, I'm glad to hear Armada Starscream is his own mold. Metroplex and Override have got me very excited for him, as there's a good chance that he'll be a proper armada remake and not the pointless mix that Arcee and Bulkhead were.

Most beaat wars fans are way past 30

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Posted by o.supreme on May 20th, 2022 @ 7:42pm CDT

william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:What we need is for the TV show lines to go back to being as reinventive as they used to. Generations lines can continue as they have been full steam ahead, but the TV show lines need the diversity and uniqueness that First-Aid clamors for.

Oh man, so much this!!!!!!!!

Agreed 100%. I've made my peace with the fact that im too old to really appreciate what any mainline toy, or media aimed at younger audiences is like. Let them go buck wild. If something by chance catches my interest call it a bonus. If not, then no loss, I still have Generations.

Also I specifically don't get the whole " this line for kids isn't "G1 enough"' ( double quotes because I'd never say that or use those phrases).

But while I'm Not a Rid15 or Cyberverse fan, it's not because they have too much or not enough nostalgia. I just didn't care for the stories in general. But those that say they are "too close" to the original puzzle me, because I find nothing, aside from the obvious character names reuses, similar about them to anything that came before, for good or I'll.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134120)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:33pm CDT

I think a new TF series that wasnt G1 styled would be a good thing, with an entirely new cast of characters. Do we really need Optimus and Megatron in EVERY iteration? Just give that show it's own collector line as well as the kids line.

That said, Generations should keep to G1 style when doing G1 characters, but characters from other continuities should be done as they were in said continuity. I really find myself detesting the G1-ified Prime characters, especially Arcee as she was my fave character in that show and this new look is just terrible. I'll always love G1, but I don't want everything to be G1.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134121)
Posted by william-james88 on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:34pm CDT

Hasbro's main Transformers designer, Mark Maher, has received lots of questions from fans regarding Menasor and is taking an opportunity to answer all the main ones, including compatibility with CW (not designed as such), if the connections are unique or symetrical, and the height. You can see all the answers below along with new images of the toy in hand.

Apologies for the lack of responses and posts, I’m trying my best to answer everyone so dont feel neglected if I dont respond. Im just really working hard to make everyone’s FAN tasties come true ( oof dad joke ).

So, here we have Menasor compared to Shattered Glass commander Jetfire just as I promised a scale comparison for yall!! As you can see, our combiner is larger, not by much, but he is basically 12 inches in height with his head horns pushing him to 12 1/2 inches.

I did attach 2 wildriders for the legs but 2 dragstrips will not work, as Ejima san made each arm connection unique to the character.

Swipe right to see how much articulation you have to play with on this combiner, just imagine all the poses!! The ankle rockers really make a large impact!

I also showed some scale comparisons to the voyagers as I feel you can imagine how dlx and core will lineup.

Been a big fan of Motormaster for a long time, the deco colors and design is so striking, I love the boxed out dome! You can see Motormaster here power slamming Optimus

Also, I showed how well combiner wars Sunstreaker fits into Menasors leg socket, as Ive said before, it fits, but does not stay well, as it was not intended to be used with this system. The intention for this combiner was to try to make it the best we could with unique connections.

If you’re a diehard g1 cartoon fan you dont have to display your arm connections seperated as shown here!

More soon! Enjoy!

Thanks for all the support

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134124)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:47pm CDT

grimdragon2001 wrote:Do we really need Optimus and Megatron in EVERY iteration?

Retailers who sell the toys keep demanding them, unfortunately.

grimdragon2001 wrote:That said, Generations should keep to G1 style when doing G1 characters, but characters from other continuities should be done as they were in said continuity. I really find myself detesting the G1-ified Prime characters, especially Arcee as she was my fave character in that show and this new look is just terrible. I'll always love G1, but I don't want everything to be G1.

It's really frustrating how pick-and-choose-y this line is being with what gets faithful designs (G1, G2, Beast Wars, and Cybertron) and what doesn't (TF: Prime and now the new Car Robots Black Convoy/RiD 2001 Scourge in the Velocitron subline).

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134125)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on May 20th, 2022 @ 11:58pm CDT

This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.

compare that to this pic of Netflix Prime and CW Menasor (Sadly from a phone with a scuffed up lens) and you might see what I mean

quick edit, forgot mine is wearing the Perfect Effect feet so yea, stock will be somewhat shorter

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Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 21st, 2022 @ 3:14am CDT

CW Menasor was some sort of weird mutated thing. Legacy Menasor is the one that I always wanted as the OFFICIAL one. 3P keeps making it over and over. It was about time HASTAK took a clue.

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Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 21st, 2022 @ 3:27am CDT

I was already hyped for Menasor, this image just makes me more excited. He looks nice and solid. Hoping they do a G2 version as well. Also, I'm really hoping Motormaster is compatible with ER Prime's trailer cause while it's silly, I think it'd be neat to have Motormaster pulling Nemesis Prime's trailer from the Netflix line, or having him haul the fuel tanker from Legacy Prime and/or Scourge

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Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 21st, 2022 @ 9:14am CDT

These photos have upped my excitement as well... I was happy enough just based on the appearance.
I'm really digging Menasor's head/face sculpt. From what I can see, that is all really on point!!
My only critique as of right now are the "grates" of the knee areas... I understand that used less plastic, but that design is a bit weak.
Other than that, I love the design. The combining system for the limbs, the torso...
I'd say Hastak really upped their game for this set.
And if this ends up being as solid and sturdy and poseable as a couple of those photos make him look, then this is going to be one incredible combiner.

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Posted by Munkky on May 21st, 2022 @ 10:32am CDT

I found the three Legacy Beasts at my local Smyths Toys today, and bought Nightprowler. I've never disliked the Kingdom Cheetor mould as much as many others do, and Nightprowler is a good use of the mould. Granted the yellow on the helmet and shoulders doesn't match the grey, but he looks nice enough in beast mode. I'm undecided on whether or not to get Buzzsaw and Sandstorm, but there were only a couple left of each so they must be selling well.
While I was there I also noticed they're stocking solid cases of Kickback and Skids, about six or seven of each on the shelf, but no Drag Strip or Arcee so far. I was tempted to pick up a Skids, he does look nice, but I eventually chose not to. Is Skids worth getting?
Also, I couldn't help but laugh, but my Smyths had Kingdom Blaster and Legacy Blaster right next to each other on the shelf, Legacy was full price at £29.99 but Kingdom was on discount for £20.99. To of the same product, in different packaging, next to each other, but one is nearly £10 cheaper. :lol:

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134145)
Posted by sol magnus on May 21st, 2022 @ 10:43am CDT

grimdragon2001 wrote:This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.

compare that to this pic of Netflix Prime and CW Menasor (Sadly from a phone with a scuffed up lens) and you might see what I mean

quick edit, forgot mine is wearing the Perfect Effect feet so yea, stock will be somewhat shorter

Just eyeballing it, but it seems like CW Menasor will be a little bit shorter than Legacy. But we shall see.

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Posted by blackeyedprime on May 21st, 2022 @ 10:43am CDT

Height wise he should work fine with other CW bots if a bit taller, I always had to extend the legs on them to make them look proportionate with their elbow joints or just leave the vehicles compressed on the arms/legs for a stubby g1 look. Just had a quick play with my CW one and I still like it enough to keep it.

I still really don't like legacy drag strips design or that even with multiple upgrade kits he still looks bad but I'm kind of tempted to get this menasor.

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Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2022 @ 10:52am CDT

It's basically the same height as CW Menasor, as Jetfire's the same height as all of the CW Combiners, and (for further reference) the same height as the likes of G1 God Ginrai, Beast Machines Ultra class Nightscream (he was tall), RID'01 Omega Prime, Armada Super-Base Optimus Prime, Armada Tidal Wave, Masterpiece MP-1 Optimus Prime, Masterpiece Ultra Magnus, Masterpiece Star Saber, Adventure TAV21 Optimus Prime, Adventure TAV33 Optimus Prime Supreme Mode, and Takara Legends God Ginrai (all of these guys were in the 11-12-inch-tall height range).

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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 21st, 2022 @ 11:31am CDT

blackeyedprime wrote:Height wise he should work fine with other CW bots if a bit taller, I always had to extend the legs on them to make them look proportionate with their elbow joints or just leave the vehicles compressed on the arms/legs for a stubby g1 look. Just had a quick play with my CW one and I still like it enough to keep it.

I still really don't like legacy drag strips design or that even with multiple upgrade kits he still looks bad but I'm kind of tempted to get this menasor.

If you're going to get it, make a decision quick before after market prices make it for you.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134152)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on May 21st, 2022 @ 11:40am CDT

When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!

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Posted by Autobot N on May 21st, 2022 @ 11:44am CDT

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!

On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

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Posted by Kurona on May 21st, 2022 @ 11:50am CDT

grimdragon2001 wrote:This image has me thinking that Legacy Menasor will be close to, if not the same height as CW Menasor. At least close enough to fit in with the CW combiners without any problems.

Since Legacy Menasor is shown here to be pretty much the exact same neck-height as Siege Jetfire, we can use previous Siege Jetfire comparisons to see how Menasor stacks up to CW combiners. He seems to actually come out very slightly taller; though I imagine if you have say CW Computron/UW Baldigus' feet or 3P feet, it'll be close to the exact same height. Not bad if you want to have him posed with Superion or Bruticus straight away!

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134157)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on May 21st, 2022 @ 12:11pm CDT

Autobot N wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

When we heard about Legacy Menasor, I'd hoped that there would be some options for display to let him either be Sunbow accurate, or toy accurate. I was hoping for an alternate chest, head, and leg transformation. Obviously it's not happening, but at least if you have the CW leg bots, you can kinda get the cars facing forward

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Posted by sol magnus on May 21st, 2022 @ 12:29pm CDT

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

When we heard about Legacy Menasor, I'd hoped that there would be some options for display to let him either be Sunbow accurate, or toy accurate. I was hoping for an alternate chest, head, and leg transformation. Obviously it's not happening, but at least if you have the CW leg bots, you can kinda get the cars facing forward

I know what display preference you have, but the cars aren't facing forward on either the Sunbow show OR the G1 toy.

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Posted by Hellscream9999 on May 21st, 2022 @ 12:32pm CDT

Sentinel_Primal wrote:
Autobot N wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:When we first saw Legacy Menasaur, I knew it was perfect. This is cool! But why did they peg wildrider and breakdown into the back of the leg, I thought they went on the front!
On the CW figure yes, but for some stupid reason the G1 cartoon just slapped the cars onto the backs of the legs instead of having Breakdown and Wildrider make up the entire leg like the G1 toy. They still had the tops of the cars facing backwards, but at least the front of the legs looked distinct because of Breakdown's and Wildrider's chests. But because of the G1 show we're stuck with this stupid design.

Switching the top of the legs' vehicle modes to the front of the Combiner legs was one of my favorite changes from Combiner Wars, it's a shame any future Legacy combiners probably won't keep it

When we heard about Legacy Menasor, I'd hoped that there would be some options for display to let him either be Sunbow accurate, or toy accurate. I was hoping for an alternate chest, head, and leg transformation. Obviously it's not happening, but at least if you have the CW leg bots, you can kinda get the cars facing forward

The lower legs detach and the cars form the heels of the combiner, so you can literally turn them around, you lose knee's but you should be able to display it with cars facing forward. I think it was mentioned in the article that it doesn't work with the CW figures, but it wasn't obvious to me what they meant.

Re: In Hand Images of Transformers Deluxe Legacy Tarantulas (2134161)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2022 @ 12:46pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:Just so that everyone is on the same page:

Transformers G1 1986 Menasor Gallery

Transformers G1 1986 Menasor Gallery

Transformers G1 1986 Menasor Gallery

G1 toy: Leg cars faced backwards.

Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Menasor Gallery

Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Menasor Gallery

Combiner Wars toy: Leg cars face forwards.