In-Hand Images: Takara Tomy MP-11S Sunstorm
Sunday, August 26th, 2012 12:03PM CDT
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Posted by kirbenvost on August 26th, 2012 @ 12:26pm CDT
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 26th, 2012 @ 12:30pm CDT
Posted by XDMan on August 26th, 2012 @ 1:19pm CDT
It looks kind of nice but despite appearing once in the cartoon, he should at least have more paint details on.
Posted by starwarrior1227 on August 26th, 2012 @ 1:46pm CDT
KILL IT WITH WATER!!!
Posted by buddhaquest on August 26th, 2012 @ 3:01pm CDT
Posted by metaphorge on August 26th, 2012 @ 7:38pm CDT
Posted by KNM2012 on August 26th, 2012 @ 7:50pm CDT
However, seeing how this is the Asian market release version (hence the coin), I am glad that there are no talks of any errors. (I say that because the Asian market releases had a few errors in the last few few years - Namely Alternity's A-01U Ultla[/u] Magnus and A-01D Dai [i]Atras name errors, and that Encore 20 Devastor had a Mixmaster that was missing a head in a few sets.)
But still... I am still hoping for a MP-8 Grimlock reissue. So that sums up one of the more important reasons why nobody will hear me say that I bought this MP.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on August 26th, 2012 @ 8:35pm CDT
Posted by Blasphemous Prime on August 26th, 2012 @ 8:48pm CDT
I have a few problems with this guy. He's not even as close to being the type of character like SS, TC, or SW. This is just another lame excuse to make more money out of a mold
I can think of 100 other more deserving characters to get the masterpiece treatment than this guy. At least do the cone heads! Has/Tak can use some of the parts from this mold even. Maybe they can succeed where Igear failed.
Posted by Blasphemous Prime on August 26th, 2012 @ 8:54pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:God, he was an animation error!
Thank you for bringing up that point! I think most of us could stand around and beat this horse dead all day!
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on August 26th, 2012 @ 9:36pm CDT
gothweaver wrote:I can think of 100 other more deserving characters to get the masterpiece treatment than this guy. At least do the cone heads! Has/Tak can use some of the parts from this mold even. Maybe they can succeed where Igear failed.
And where exactly did iGear fail?
Posted by KNM2012 on August 26th, 2012 @ 10:21pm CDT
gothweaver wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:God, he was an animation error!
Thank you for bringing up that point! I think most of us could stand around and beat this horse dead all day!
I just find it ironic how people have to rage over anything these days. I mean, besides that dead horse, look at what they have done with this character! He made his first official, albeit minor, role in Animated. He was reinvented into something threatening in the Dreamwave Productions Generation One series.
And with the fact that he thinks that he is a "spirit/ghost" in current Japanese(another thing people tend to overlook) G1 continuity... There is that sense of irony that he was based on Coronation Starscream. Because we all know what he became after that.
Posted by ej8306 on August 26th, 2012 @ 10:30pm CDT
here are more pix of MP11-S, Sunstorm. =)
more pics of other stuff on my FB / Blog.. =)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on August 27th, 2012 @ 12:08am CDT
Posted by zappatton2 on August 27th, 2012 @ 9:13am CDT
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 27th, 2012 @ 9:25am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 27th, 2012 @ 9:39am CDT
DevastaTTor wrote:They should have just left out the coronation set; seems out of place and adds unneeded cost.
I disagree: a god like him needs the crown and cape to accent his supremacy!
Posted by Stormrider on August 27th, 2012 @ 4:51pm CDT
I loved Sunstorm in Dreamwave, but never fully understood what he was trying to do with Starscream at the end of the story?
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on September 6th, 2012 @ 1:48pm CDT
gothweaver wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:God, he was an animation error!
Thank you for bringing up that point! I think most of us could stand around and beat this horse dead all day!
Yes, we bring it up! Because it's so moronic that this guy get so much when actual characters don't even get Deluxe-class Classics figures. Where the hell's our Trailbreaker, or Hoist, or Gears or Brawn?
Posted by KNM2012 on September 6th, 2012 @ 11:41pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:gothweaver wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:God, he was an animation error!
Thank you for bringing up that point! I think most of us could stand around and beat this horse dead all day!
Yes, we bring it up! Because it's so moronic that this guy get so much when actual characters don't even get Deluxe-class Classics figures. Where the hell's our Trailbreaker, or Hoist, or Gears or Brawn?
So seeing how this is a Japanese toyline, designed by Japanese designers who personally choose what characters they want to work on, and since its debut in 2003... He is the eighth (of eight) variant in this line of 14 (24 including the variants and movie figures) characters... Which has 3 being Convoy and 2 being Starscream? Why not condone them for making an Ultra Magnus that appears out of his armor as well?
But I digress. Because if you want to bicker about an obscure fact that gave way to e-HOBBY getting permission to turn him into an actual character (by Takara) in 2003, then be my guest. But what stop there? There are so many facts that you can bicker about! Such as...
...Prior to their U.S. cartoon debut, Frenzy and Rumble were listed as blue and red by Hasbro. However, it was rumored that the swap made in said series was due to the writers assuming that kids would get confused if Frenzy was doing all the rumbling.
...On the 1985 artwork for toyline, they show Tracks being red. However, as you may recall, only the Milton Bradly European Tracks was red. Tracks in the U.S. and Japanese lines ended up being blue. It was not until 2002 that e-HOBBY issued the red corvette version as Road Rage (ID #94), a female Cybertron who is the bodyguard of Crosscut (ID #95).
...The 1986 movie shows that two Cyclonus were created, yet only one was seen in the third season. Ironhide was killed off in the movie, but was briefly seen in The Headmasters (1987). And Wheeljack was also killed in that movie, but had a more defined role in Victory (1989).
...The mold used to create Jetfire was based on the Macross/Robotech VF-1 Valkyrie/Veritech fighter. It was a mold available to both Hasbro and Milton Bradly in the 1984/1985 line, but could not be used by Takara, due to licensing issues (which still exist). The same went for Omega Supreme and Sky Lynx until their debuts in the Encore line!
...PLUS the toy version of Slag, primarily outside of Canada, was not created to be cartoon accurate. The cartoon version has him sporting a red face and white legs. However, the toy version has him be black face and black legs. However, the Canadian version of this toy is not 100% cartoon accurate, as he was given red hands while the cartoon version was given black.
...And finally, in the Milton Bradly line, Jetfire was used as Optimus Prime. Not only in thie European toyline, but also the comic published in that region.
The point is simple - Sunstorm was turned into an official G1 character by e-Hobby when they issued an official figure in 2003. His official Japanese ID number is 89, which makes him part of the e-HOBBY portion of the 1985 Takara Tomy Generation 1 toyline. And seeing how he was one of many e-HOBBY characters, it is fitting that he was turned into a variant figure.
Because while Hasbro had pretty much moved onto other things... e-HOBBY went back to the Generation 1 line and continued making characters that were based on series-based errors, Diaclone color variants that were never used, and more. Takara allowed it and they made him become an official JG1 canon in the process. One that would appear in American-based fiction since then.
In other words... You can use the knowledge you have used. That would make great trivia to point out all the changes and errors that were made within the animated series. But why take it out on a company that owns the rights to the series, and can do pretty much anything that they want? They own the rights and can do whatever the hell they want, right? Right. So if they want obscure errors to become G1 facts, then they can. And so far, nothing bad has happened to the Japanese Generation 1 continuity due to these add-on characters? Has it harmed your fandom in any way? Has it stopped you from collecting anything tied to the Takara/Takara Tomy lines?
All I can say, regardless of the idea you buy their stuff or not, he has been part of the official Japanese G1 canon for the last nine years, and both you and that continuity both seem to be okay.
Oh... And FYI, what is keeping me from getting this piece is the hefty price tag, the fact I am iffy about buying an exclusive Asian market version of said Amazon.com exclusive, and the fact that I want MP-8 Grimlock a bit more... Even though this character is becoming more and more appealing to both me and my collection as we speak.
Posted by Stormrider on September 7th, 2012 @ 10:51pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:gothweaver wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:God, he was an animation error!
Thank you for bringing up that point! I think most of us could stand around and beat this horse dead all day!
Yes, we bring it up! Because it's so moronic that this guy get so much when actual characters don't even get Deluxe-class Classics figures. Where the hell's our Trailbreaker, or Hoist, or Gears or Brawn?
It's ironic what a toy exclusive and a good character story will do.
Posted by KNM2012 on September 8th, 2012 @ 12:02am CDT
Stormrider wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:gothweaver wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:God, he was an animation error!
Thank you for bringing up that point! I think most of us could stand around and beat this horse dead all day!
Yes, we bring it up! Because it's so moronic that this guy get so much when actual characters don't even get Deluxe-class Classics figures. Where the hell's our Trailbreaker, or Hoist, or Gears or Brawn?
It's ironic what a toy exclusive and a good character story will do.
100% agreed. I mean, I can understand people not knowing how Takara Tomy handles their products. I can understand wanting a Masterpiece version of a more obscure/minor character. All of those things are rational.
But this? I agree with your point. Because it made me go while thinking about how I was not pissed when Takara Tomy chose to make Devastor (Devastator), and not Guardian (Defensor), become their 20th Encore piece.
Posted by Anonymous on September 9th, 2012 @ 7:11am CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
...The 1986 movie shows that two Cyclonus were created, yet only one was seen in the third season. Ironhide was killed off in the movie, but was briefly seen in The Headmasters (1987). And Wheeljack was also killed in that movie, but had a more defined role in Victory (1989).
The script regarding the creation of Unicron's charges was bordering on pathetic. the movie itself is absolutely riddled with animation and continuity errors, so lets just leave that one right alone.
The movie was released in Japan in August of 1989, unlike the US. The Japanese disregarded the 4th season and proceeded with their own take on the continuity. So, yes, it is entirely plausible for the Japanese to have these and other dead in the US characters featured. Watching Wheeljack, Minerva and Perceptor working away on Ginrai hurt my head thinking about it too.
Posted by RhA on September 9th, 2012 @ 7:51am CDT
I double dare you to pull his finger.
Posted by KNM2012 on September 9th, 2012 @ 2:45pm CDT
breakdown99 wrote:KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
...The 1986 movie shows that two Cyclonus were created, yet only one was seen in the third season. Ironhide was killed off in the movie, but was briefly seen in The Headmasters (1987). And Wheeljack was also killed in that movie, but had a more defined role in Victory (1989).
The script regarding the creation of Unicron's charges was bordering on pathetic. the movie itself is absolutely riddled with animation and continuity errors, so lets just leave that one right alone.
The movie was released in Japan in August of 1989, unlike the US. The Japanese disregarded the 4th season and proceeded with their own take on the continuity. So, yes, it is entirely plausible for the Japanese to have these and other dead in the US characters featured. Watching Wheeljack, Minerva and Perceptor working away on Ginrai hurt my head thinking about it too.
That is all true. However, I was using those choice points to show him that if he wanted to bicker about an animated error getting a Masterpiece spin-off... Then he might as well bicker about every other aspect that was allowed. But thanks for the additional stuff, even though The Rebirth is the exact reason why I will not collect any vintage U.S. Hasbro pieces anytime soon.
Besides that, it was not even animated by Toei - They worked on a good chunk of the first two seasons, the movie, less on season 3, and were hired by Takara to work on their stuff while Hasbro chose a cheaper company to do The Rebirth.
And also, when it comes to the movie, TV Magazine did give some info about the events while dubbing it "The Unicron War." And that was due to some issues that prevented the movie to debut in 1987. But this is a different subject.
Thing is that the only explanation for Wheeljack's return is that his body was not with the others when Zombie Convoy made his appearance. Which means that between Headmasters and Victory, his body was recovered and those who specialized in even bringing Convoy back were able to do the same for him.
But Takara Tomy may never say if that is the case, as they don't always give us the full story.
Posted by samuraiman on September 10th, 2012 @ 9:37pm CDT
Posted by samuraiman on September 10th, 2012 @ 9:38pm CDT
Posted by Anonymous on September 12th, 2012 @ 7:37am CDT
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:
That is all true. However, I was using those choice points to show him that if he wanted to bicker about an animated error getting a Masterpiece spin-off... Then he might as well bicker about every other aspect that was allowed. But thanks for the additional stuff, even though The Rebirth is the exact reason why I will not collect any vintage U.S. Hasbro pieces anytime soon.
They've got some descent figures there. We can thank Hasbro's budget cuts for making David Wise's job as a scriptwriter all the more difficult.
"Hi, I'm Sureshot. I'm Triggerhappy" ok, who are the next 30 toys we need to introduce in the 2 seconds we have left of the episode?
I agree also with the comment on the animation error. Takara now has an extra 3 rainmaker characters up their sleeves, not to mention all those filler seekers seen in the first 3 episodes. I will not be surprised at all if they pump out another 5 seeker characters based on season 1
Besides that, it was not even animated by Toei - They worked on a good chunk of the first two seasons, the movie, less on season 3, and were hired by Takara to work on their stuff while Hasbro chose a cheaper company to do The Rebirth.
LOL AKOM & Nelson Shin. Making money at the expense of quality. Who cares if Brawl is shown next to Bruticus?!
Posted by KNM2012 on September 12th, 2012 @ 4:14pm CDT
breakdown99 wrote:
They've got some descent figures there. We can thank Hasbro's budget cuts for making David Wise's job as a scriptwriter all the more difficult.
"Hi, I'm Sureshot. I'm Triggerhappy" ok, who are the next 30 toys we need to introduce in the 2 seconds we have left of the episode?
I agree also with the comment on the animation error. Takara now has an extra 3 rainmaker characters up their sleeves, not to mention all those filler seekers seen in the first 3 episodes. I will not be surprised at all if they pump out another 5 seeker characters based on season 1
Quite honestly, I do not have any love for Hasbro when it comes to their stuff within North America these days. It is why I ignore anything they have done while seeking out pieces from their European "Classic" line, Takara Tomy, and with great wishes... The old MB line. Maybe Hasbro's China line, as those were sent as mail-orders when it came to both the Dinobots and Gnaw.
But with Takara back then, and Takara Tomy now, have my respect. e-HOBBY still has my respect because they took errors and gave them new life. Not happy with the VSE set right now, but that is a different reason. So lets say that Sunstorm is their saving grace... Even though his reissue is currently hard to find.
So when it comes to TOMY, I welcome anything they make. Chances are, unless they are Encore sets, I will not buy them.