In-Hand Images: Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyager Rhinox

Wow he is darn near perfect... I wish the blades on the gun were silver but its nice how they made it fit into the rhino mode... automatic buy on sight

I am saddened that his tail doesn't seem to lift to recreate that iconic scene.

Other than that (and the unpainted chainguns), he looks pretty darned cool!

Yeah, he's a little bit awesome.

Although I have to say I'm surprised by the size comparisons to the other Beast Wars figures. Are Dinobot and Cheetor quite large deluxes or is Rhinox looking to be quite small?

Sodan-1 wrote:Yeah, he's a little bit awesome.

Although I have to say I'm surprised by the size comparisons to the other Beast Wars figures. Are Dinobot and Cheetor quite large deluxes or is Rhinox looking to be quite small?

A bit of both, Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

Dead Metal wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Yeah, he's a little bit awesome.

Although I have to say I'm surprised by the size comparisons to the other Beast Wars figures. Are Dinobot and Cheetor quite large deluxes or is Rhinox looking to be quite small?

A bit of both, Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

Yeah, that makes sense I suppose. I guess Waspinator and the rumoured Rattrap would compare well to him then. What's everyone's impressions of the two Universe deluxes? Are they worth picking up or should I pray for HasTak to revisit those characters?

Sodan-1 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Yeah, he's a little bit awesome.

Although I have to say I'm surprised by the size comparisons to the other Beast Wars figures. Are Dinobot and Cheetor quite large deluxes or is Rhinox looking to be quite small?

A bit of both, Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

Yeah, that makes sense I suppose. I guess Waspinator and the rumoured Rattrap would compare well to him then. What's everyone's impressions of the two Universe deluxes? Are they worth picking up or should I pray for HasTak to revisit those characters?

Pray.
Cheetor is utter crap, avoid at all costs, get the original toy. Dinobot is OK, best version of the character to date, but not perfect, would have needed to be Voyager to be perfect.

Sodan-1 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Yeah, he's a little bit awesome.

Although I have to say I'm surprised by the size comparisons to the other Beast Wars figures. Are Dinobot and Cheetor quite large deluxes or is Rhinox looking to be quite small?

A bit of both, Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

Yeah, that makes sense I suppose. I guess Waspinator and the rumoured Rattrap would compare well to him then. What's everyone's impressions of the two Universe deluxes? Are they worth picking up or should I pray for HasTak to revisit those characters?

I have Cheetor and I can sum him up in three images

Great Cheetah Mode


Flatfooted under-armed lackluster robot mode


... with a huge backpack


Not for the casual collector.

I feel better about not having them already. Money saved! Thanks you two.

It brings a manly tear to the eye.

Sodan-1 wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:Yeah, he's a little bit awesome.

Although I have to say I'm surprised by the size comparisons to the other Beast Wars figures. Are Dinobot and Cheetor quite large deluxes or is Rhinox looking to be quite small?

A bit of both, Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

Yeah, that makes sense I suppose. I guess Waspinator and the rumoured Rattrap would compare well to him then. What's everyone's impressions of the two Universe deluxes? Are they worth picking up or should I pray for HasTak to revisit those characters?

Given how long it took for this line to go back to Beast Wars period, it's hard to say. As crappy as Cheetor is, I would prefer they went forward with more Beast Wars characters. The figure is really weak, but I'm still glad I have him just for completeness. Same thing about Leo Prime.

Did you ever think about getting the Titanium Cheetor? I hear that one is pretty decent, although I don't have one personally.

I am going to be bold and actually saying something negative about this toy. I don't like that beast mode rhino face. Especially the eyes. I hate that they went for a realistic rhino look instead of going for a more show-accurate face that better resembles the big Horn-Head we all know and love.








And I don't like how his brown is more toy-accurate tan instead of show-accurate brown.

Or how his robot mode arms are exposed in beast mode.

Or how his chest looks wrong.

Oh, and his lips are gone.



As are the spikes that went on his legs.



Doesn't stop me from liking this figure, though.

Dead Metal wrote:Cheetor is utter crap, avoid at all costs, get the original toy.

I recommend the Beast Wars Telemocha Series version of the original Cheetor toy.

Dead Metal wrote:Dinobot is OK, best version of the character to date, but not perfect, would have needed to be Voyager to be perfect.

The Henkei! Henkei! Dinobot is the version everyone should get.

Sodan-1 wrote:I feel better about not having them already. Money saved! Thanks you two.

You might still wanna at least consider Dinobot. Specifically this one:

Maybe the Tomy version will rectify your concerns Saber?

Mkall wrote:I am saddened that his tail doesn't seem to lift to recreate that iconic scene.

Other than that (and the unpainted chainguns), he looks pretty darned cool!

Maybe 3rd party will make one for you with purple energon released from his butt I was intersted in that option of course,

Looks good figure like to see beast wars characters megatron, prime, depthcharge,

cartoon accurate or not, this has got to be the best most accurate rhinox so far
hasbro still surprises with a few gems for our collection

He looks fantastic, and I'll definitely be picking him up. Probably with Doubledealer, since I had that toy as a kid and am somewhat nostalgic for him.

The only downside with Rhinox is that he reminds me that I still can't find the Robot Masters/Telemocha Optimus Primal anywhere.

Please Hasbro, make my life easier (and probably cheaper) and release that figure in the US also.

fenrir72 wrote:Maybe the Tomy version will rectify your concerns Saber?

You obviously haven't seen that piece of bronze.

Manterax Prime wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Maybe the Tomy version will rectify your concerns Saber?

You obviously haven't seen that piece of bronze.

Behold:




Better colors, but my concerns were more geared towards the mold itself, rather than the deco.

Manterax Prime wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Maybe the Tomy version will rectify your concerns Saber?

You obviously haven't seen that piece of bronze.

Behold:




Better colors, but my concerns were more geared towards the mold itself, rather than the deco.

Sabrblade wrote:Better colors

Indeed...for the guns. Hasbro Rhinox actually looks organic in beast mode, as he should. Takara's Rhinox can suck it.

Manterax Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Better colors

Indeed...for the guns. Hasbro Rhinox actually looks organic in beast mode, as he should.

That's likely due to Takara bizarrely making the organic rhino parts shiny while leaving the supposed-to-be-shiny green robot parts not-shiny.

But I don't care. Rhinox and every other bot on that show looked like clay animals anyway, and that's how they're remembered as looking.

Absolutely beautiful. (Aside from the unpainted "gattlers".) Here's hoping we can get updated figures for other characters who need or fit the bill: Airazor, Strika, Botanica, Ratrrap (who we are getting?), Tigertron, Blackarachnia, and maybe Tigerhawk. Realistically,I can see Strika and Tigerhawk being made in the possible future.

Slashercon wrote:Absolutely beautiful. (Aside from the unpainted "gattlers".) Here's hoping we can get updated figures for other characters who need or fit the bill: Airazor, Strika, Botanica, Ratrrap (who we are getting?), Tigertron, Blackarachnia, and maybe Tigerhawk. Realistically,I can see Strika and Tigerhawk being made in the possible future.

The fact that we just got a Strika from the Club likely means that we're not getting a Strika from Hasbro anytime soon in the near future.

Well WOW what an awesome Rhino mode. I can NOT believe his chain guns fit in Rhino mode. To me the only thing that could make this better would to have his entire Rhino mode painted in the same color not emphasizing any robot parts. SMALL observation.

Dudes...that transformeration sequence is pretty show accurate! IIIIIIIIIIIIII just had some nostalgic flashbacks to great days!

Dead Metal wrote:Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

I was under the impression that the current-gen voyagers are taller than they were in the past. The deluxe class are definitely smaller these days though.

Well I'm glad my suspicions that the rhino mode jaw wouldn't close all the way have been alleviated. His size is rather troubling though...

Must get!

So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

Killed the images to prevent this from becoming unnecessarily huge.

Sabrblade wrote:I am going to be bold and actually saying something negative about this toy. I don't like that beast mode rhino face. Especially the eyes. I hate that they went for a realistic rhino look instead of going for a more show-accurate face that better resembles the big Horn-Head we all know and love.


And I don't like how his brown is more toy-accurate tan instead of show-accurate brown.

Or how his robot mode arms are exposed in beast mode.

Or how his chest looks wrong.

Oh, and his lips are gone.



As are the spikes that went on his legs.


Doesn't stop me from liking this figure, though.

I've been complaining about those things since day one. Also the head is all wrong, it's not just the lips, the head looks like it was designed by an artist who saw a pic of the head once and then had the details explained to him over the phone while designing it.
I'm hoping for a 3rd party kit that rectifies all the major issues, and then I'll just paint it myself.

Dead Metal wrote:Cheetor is utter crap, avoid at all costs, get the original toy.

I recommend the Beast Wars Telemocha Series version of the original Cheetor toy.

Dead Metal wrote:Dinobot is OK, best version of the character to date, but not perfect, would have needed to be Voyager to be perfect.

The Henkei! Henkei! Dinobot is the version everyone should get.

Sodan-1 wrote:I feel better about not having them already. Money saved! Thanks you two.

You might still wanna at least consider Dinobot. Specifically this one:

I have the Henkei, and in hand it's still just OK. The biggest problems being the size, had it been Voyager tehre would have been more mass to work with. On top of that the tail weapon is rendered crap due to the way the tail was sculpted, the sword, while chromed, is short and rounded making it look pathetic, oh and I really hate the rubber parts.
Sure the paint job is nice, but paint can't fix design shortcomings of the sculpt.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Dudes...that transformeration sequence is pretty show accurate! IIIIIIIIIIIIII just had some nostalgic flashbacks to great days!

Dead Metal wrote:Rhinox is a current gen Voyager, which are smaller than they used to be. Cheetor and Dinoboot are both Deluxes from 2008, and are larger than current deluxes.
On top of that, Rhinox is pretty compact and packs a whole lotta mass, while the other two are very slender and long in alt-mode.

I was under the impression that the current-gen voyagers are taller than they were in the past. The deluxe class are definitely smaller these days though.

Oh totally forgot about the Springer and Blitzwing molds, I was basing this on Prime voyagers.

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

Evil muted colours Rhinox from that one episode, and maybe they'll create a new character or add a few parts and call it Tankor. There really isn't a whole lot they can do with this.

Also, I just realized I completely forgot to say something about these new pics, damn despite the problems I have with this, the toy is even more awesome than the original pics suggested!

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

Remold it into TM Rinox and we're golden, I'd say.

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

TORCA!

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

TORCA!

Holy crap, I think you're right. They have the same kibble distribution and similar transformation. And now that I look at it more, it seems like some of the details, specifically the chest and legs are specifically designed for Torca!

Dead Metal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

TORCA!

Holy crap, I think you're right. They have the same kibble distribution and similar transformation. And now that I look at it more, it seems like some of the details, specifically the chest and legs are specifically designed for Torca!

Torca, like Rhinox, would be an automatic buy!

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

Evil Rhinox, first off. Someone also mentioned the Dinobot Slag/Slug before, and I can totally see that happening.

I just picked up the Beast Wars Transformers collection on DVD.
I want them to do the rest of the BW characters. hmmmmmm imagining the hot scenarios between Blackarachnia and Silverbolt.
I wanna FINALLY get my hands on Tigatron.

Arctorro wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

TORCA!

Holy crap, I think you're right. They have the same kibble distribution and similar transformation. And now that I look at it more, it seems like some of the details, specifically the chest and legs are specifically designed for Torca!

Torca, like Rhinox, would be an automatic buy!

All it would take is some near-Sandstorm levels of remolding and voila!

Then it could be redecoed into the Blentron Elphaorpha.

Sabrblade wrote:Then it could be redecoed into the Blentron Elphaorpha.

You just HAD to mention him, didn't you?

Sabrblade wrote:

Arctorro wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

TORCA!

Holy crap, I think you're right. They have the same kibble distribution and similar transformation. And now that I look at it more, it seems like some of the details, specifically the chest and legs are specifically designed for Torca!

Torca, like Rhinox, would be an automatic buy!

All it would take is some near-Sandstorm levels of remolding and voila!

Then it could be redecoed into the Blentron Elphaorpha.

Yes. Screw Torca, get me an Elphaorpha.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Then it could be redecoed into the Blentron Elphaorpha.

You just HAD to mention him, didn't you?

Better than mentioning his mangled IDW/Ben Yee name of "Elephorca".

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Then it could be redecoed into the Blentron Elphaorpha.

You just HAD to mention him, didn't you?

Better than mentioning his mangled IDW/Ben Yee name of "Elephorca".

Who looked like Torca in the Titan Magazines. Go figure

You know what? Hasbro has been doing some amazing stuff lately, this Rhinox and Waspinator are just so awesome, there has to be a catch somewhere.
You know what I think?
All guesses till now have been wrong, completely.
Rhinox is going to get repainted as Rattrap, no remolds or anything, just a simple repaint with the justification that they're both "beasts and have a similar chest and head concept.

Think about it. That's something Hasbro would do. Yea I know we're getting a Rattrap, and it's supposed to be a Deluxe, but that listing could be false.

Dead Metal wrote:You know what? Hasbro has been doing some amazing stuff lately, this Rhinox and Waspinator are just so awesome, there has to be a catch somewhere.

The catch is that the Beast Hunters and AOE toys get to suffer from uber simplicity.

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

TORCA!

Mmmm, Fuzor updates. If only...
Shoot, now you done and got my hopes up.

(and I mean Fuzor Fuzor, half one animal, half another, but beware more are coming! Fuzor, not... not DotM Darksteel or BotShot Buzzclaw "Fuzor")

Seibertron wrote:So the real question is ... who does this get repainted or remolded into?

Or will this get repainted at all?

Universe Dinobot and Cheetor never got repaints/remolded. (not including Henkei)

I need him. I needed Rhinox and Waspinator yesterday.

Might even clash with Springer being one of the best designed Transformers toys, it looks so good.

Dead Metal wrote:Killed the images to prevent this from becoming unnecessarily huge.

Sabrblade wrote:I am going to be bold and actually saying something negative about this toy. I don't like that beast mode rhino face. Especially the eyes. I hate that they went for a realistic rhino look instead of going for a more show-accurate face that better resembles the big Horn-Head we all know and love.


And I don't like how his brown is more toy-accurate tan instead of show-accurate brown.

Or how his robot mode arms are exposed in beast mode.

Or how his chest looks wrong.

Oh, and his lips are gone.



As are the spikes that went on his legs.


Doesn't stop me from liking this figure, though.

I've been complaining about those things since day one. Also the head is all wrong, it's not just the lips, the head looks like it was designed by an artist who saw a pic of the head once and then had the details explained to him over the phone while designing it.
I'm hoping for a 3rd party kit that rectifies all the major issues, and then I'll just paint it myself.

Don't you think that saying the head is all wrong is just the teeniest bit hyperbolic? For goodness' sake, they included the maximal symbols on either side of his pseudo-mohawk!
The color i'll give you, that is a few shades off. But there's only so much you can do for show-accuracy and non-sloppy modes, if they had his chest look more accurate, then his rhino mode jaw would have been gigantic. And honestly i didn't even realize he had spikes there haha, but again, that would have resulted in a spiky rhino leg.
Trust me, when you have to bring up the fact that he doesn't have lips, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Agreed, it's not 100% accurate, those are all valid points. But those points are small enough for me to forget about and chock this one up to "completely show accurate" in my book. Again, i know it's not, but i'm not concerned about lips or leg spikes

Hypershock wrote:Don't you think that saying the head is all wrong is just the teeniest bit hyperbolic? For goodness' sake, they included the maximal symbols on either side of his pseudo-mohawk!

In spite of the attempted show-accuracy, there are still some key differences between this head and that of the CG model:

Hypershock wrote:The color i'll give you, that is a few shades off. But there's only so much you can do for show-accuracy and non-sloppy modes,

Takara's is closer:

Hypershock wrote:if they had his chest look more accurate, then his rhino mode jaw would have been gigantic.

Not unless they work some magic and "cheat" a bit, to give him a giant jaw in robot mode and normal jaw in beast mode.

Hypershock wrote:And honestly i didn't even realize he had spikes there haha, but again, that would have resulted in a spiky rhino leg.

Not unless they were to flip in and out during the transformation. The original toy had them hidden in beast mode.

Hypershock wrote:Trust me, when you have to bring up the fact that he doesn't have lips, you're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

But are they not among the most iconic aspects of his face?



I mean, Cheetor and Tigatron have their cat snouts, Rattrap has his buck teeth, Dinobot has his rigidity; these are all memorable parts of their faces that help identify who they are. This new Rhinox toy has a much more generic-looking face that happens to have a similar mohawk and chin strap beard.

Hypershock wrote:Agreed, it's not 100% accurate, those are all valid points. But those points are small enough for me to forget about and chock this one up to "completely show accurate" in my book. Again, i know it's not, but i'm not concerned about lips or leg spikes

Of course, this is all just nitpicking, as I still want the figure (rather, the Takara version, that is).

Still, I do gotta wonder why they didn't just stick to the CG model's details from the beginning, since Emiliano Santalucia (who designed this figure) did say that he was trying to follow the BW cartoon look for this toy. Yet, the final result still show otherwise.

i'm amazed about all the petty complaints on this awesome figure
people are D*****s!

Ultra Markus wrote:i'm amazed about all the petty complaints on this awesome figure
people are D*****s!

One can only say "I think this thing is cool and I like it," so many times and in so many ways before becoming a broken record. Gotta keep some diversity going.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i'm amazed about all the petty complaints on this awesome figure
people are D*****s!

One can only say "I think this thing is cool and I like it," so many times and in so many ways before becoming a broken record. Gotta keep some diversity going.

diversity? are you kidding me
instead of talking about how much its not cartoon accurate and nitpick everything about it
one could say since its a "Generations" toy that being said it was never meant to be show accurate but look more modern better design just like all the other Generations toys looks better than the show or the original toy, he looks tougher more bad-ass!

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i'm amazed about all the petty complaints on this awesome figure
people are D*****s!

One can only say "I think this thing is cool and I like it," so many times and in so many ways before becoming a broken record. Gotta keep some diversity going.

diversity? are you kidding me
instead of talking about how much its not cartoon accurate and nitpick everything about it
one could say since its a "Generations" toy that being said it was never meant to be show accurate but look more modern better design just like all the other Generations toys looks better than the show or the original toy, he looks tougher more bad-ass!

Emiliano Santalucia said in the latest Twincast Podcast he was designing both this toy and Waspinator off of their cartoon models first and foremost.

And, how does "being a Generations toy" automatically excuse a TF toy from being fiction-accurate? Look at all of the WFC/FOC and IDW G1 Generations toys. Those are all very fiction-accurate. The Classics-style era is practically dead at this point, what with a greater sense of uniformity and consistency occurring between the toys and the fiction rendering toy-only updates superfluous.