In-Hand Images and US Sighting - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 4 Deluxes

Mirage and Sunstreaker look great. Prowl and Ironhide... They do nothing for me.

all look good to me
but I'm not a fan of mirages face

I went ahead and pre-ordered Mirage and Prowl last night on BBTS. It'd be nice to find them at retail sooner than later, but I am not counting on it. Mirage was a must buy for me because I missed out on the Classics version.
Ironhide and Sunstreaker are an easy pass for me this time around, but that just allows me to save a little more for the Combaticon wave when it comes around.

So barring some things coming out we don't know about, if these are out already, then damn. Probably nothing except the Voyager Prime repaint and Leader Starscream until the Bruticus wave right around Christmas as far as Generations goes. No complaints about that here though.

This is the first time I'm really noticing the silver combiner hands/feet that come with these guys. That's slick. I like it.

Everybody else looks fine, but that Ironhide has got to go!

Also, is anyone else getting a Transformers: Energon Optimus Prime vibe from Optimus Maximus?

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Everybody else looks fine, but that Ironhide has got to go!

I still think he's better than the Universe 2.0 one in robot mode.

I really wish they'd used the First Aid re-tooling for the vehicle. Here's a random digibash from a Google search that makes me sad:

I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.

Agree on Mirage here too. A modicum of retooling to allow the F1 car front to be his chest, with the arms being appropriate to face that way as well, would take it over the top.

ScottyP wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.

Agree on Mirage here too. A modicum of retooling to allow the F1 car front to be his chest, with the arms being appropriate to face that way as well, would take it over the top.

Yeah I think given those additions, combiner wars mirage would be a pretty good generations mirage nearly a decade after the classic's figure. Maybe not a better figure, but distinctly it's own mirage. As for ironhide it's a better figure than the universe 2.0 figure mostly because of the engineering differences, but I think there needed to be something more distinct for him besides the head to make him more than a red offroad.

They look good. I still have no Protectobots and these guys are out! jeez!

Meanwhile, the Target near me still just has two Dragstrips and a Skydive as their Combiner Wars stock, even after their massive summer restock.

I was at one of my local Targets (Okemos, MI) around 11 AM and they also have the Wave 4 Deluxes out. Had at least 2 of each.

Meanwhile, my local Target and Walmart STILL haven't stocked the Protectobots....wondering if I'll ever see them at retail.

dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.

Agh! We haven't even gotten the protectobots here in CO yet. Dang it.

Megatron Wolf wrote:dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.

You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.

I have to say, out of all the limbs, Off-road is still the stand-out figure, if only (as I do really love him) for the unique splashes of color he brings to the table as an arm.

Really that teal is to die for (that green on his face is also very nice), and greatly needed to stand out against all the muted/dark colors and grays of mm/menasor/galvatronus.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.

You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.

Exactly this.

Just speaking for my local area, which, granted is big but not Big or BIG or anything like that, I can say the Protectobots have been around for a couple months quite readily. Bring on a new wave!

I seriously wish has/tak had gone back and re-engineered op/mm after the others were done - I do beleive he was the first mold done, or that a seperate (and far more clever) team worked on silverbolt/hotspot - and applied some of the things that they learned from making silverbolt and hotspot to him.

Specifically the thighs and the shoulders; they could have decreased his density, locked everything together better, made the thighs 'better' (please note that defensor uses the same thighs/pelvis as hotspot, but by moving the connector ports outwards, a better look and design is achieved - this would have facilitated a better use of the mm legs, maybe even a design similar to hotspot).

I dunno, Menasor just 'looks' really cool - dat head sculpt - and the ball jointed neck was a god-send, but everything else just sucks, from an engineering standpoint; it doesn't help that the fan-modes aren't that great to me, and still have pretty poor stability/poseability; I really want to like him, I wanted to since he was revealed, but I will never love that mold - until, that is, it gets overhauled.



p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect hs wavemate

Wow, all of the new wave 4 figures look exceptional and I've been very skeptical of them until now.

On a side note, has Hasbro released a Gears figure that is G1 accurate?

joeprime276 wrote: On a side note, has Hasbro released a Gears figure that is G1 accurate?

Closest we've gotten so far is the Generations Legend class from last year, and he was impossible to find. I had to get him from a friend in Canada.


Lots of folks complain that his head should be Brawn's. True, but it works for me.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect hs wavemate

Running change? When did that come up?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect his wavemate

Running change? When did that come up?

A couple of days ago, it may not have been news'ed. The thigh detented gear of b.c.o/p has been changed so that the combined forms' legs can sit evenly on the floor; mm is his wavemate, I wasn't sure if this wasn't the reason why

They're all perfect.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect his wavemate

Running change? When did that come up?

A couple of days ago, it may not have been news'ed. The thigh detented gear of b.c.o/p has been changed so that the combined forms' legs can sit evenly on the floor; mm is his wavemate, I wasn't sure if this wasn't the reason why

Ah, thank you. I did hear that, but didnt make the running change connection

EXCUSE ME, while I Sweep this up...

Knees are a bit loose due to using the Sweep head / thruster swivel as a knee joint, but he stands up straight.

Galvatronus has come to sweep us off our feet!

that looks amazing

SkyQuake101 wrote:EXCUSE ME, while I Sweep this up...

Knees are a bit loose due to using the Sweep head / thruster swivel as a knee joint, but he stands up straight.

Absolutely beautiful...

Those shoulder wings are AWESOME!!!!!

only getting ironhide. dont need anyone else.

SkyQuake101 wrote:EXCUSE ME, while I Sweep this up...

Knees are a bit loose due to using the Sweep head / thruster swivel as a knee joint, but he stands up straight.

Love these customs. The shoulder wings are amazing

I just was playing with Rook and realized something incredible, painted the right way, with a new head, he could be a scaled down Fortress Maximus! He even has a city mode and a space ship mode!

Madeus Prime wrote:I just was playing with Rook and realized something incredible, painted the right way, with a new head, he could be a scaled down Fortress Maximus! He even has a city mode and a space ship mode!

Neat. Except we need a titan class one so Fort Max can reclaim his crown from Metroplex.

Madeus Prime wrote:I just was playing with Rook and realized something incredible, painted the right way, with a new head, he could be a scaled down Fortress Maximus! He even has a city mode and a space ship mode!

Pray do show this wonder!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Neat. Except we need a titan class one so Fort Max can reclaim his crown from Metroplex.

WRONG. What we need is a titan class Alpha Bravo.

In all seriousness though, I'm super excited for Titan Wars, but I'd like to see a Fortress Maximus modeled after his IDW version, where he's a tank or something and is roughly voyager scale.

Va'al wrote:Pray do show this wonder!

Is it perfect? No, but Rook does have the city mode nailed, in my opinion anyway.

Madeus Prime wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Neat. Except we need a titan class one so Fort Max can reclaim his crown from Metroplex.

WRONG. What we need is a titan class Alpha Bravo.

In all seriousness though, I'm super excited for Titan Wars, but I'd like to see a Fortress Maximus modeled after his IDW version, where he's a tank or something and is roughly voyager scale.

Va'al wrote:Pray do show this wonder!

Is it perfect? No, but Rook does have the city mode nailed, in my opinion anyway.

Either that, or a life-size Alpha Bravo. Va'al would have a field day with that.

Madeus Prime wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Neat. Except we need a titan class one so Fort Max can reclaim his crown from Metroplex.

WRONG. What we need is a titan class Alpha Bravo.

In all seriousness though, I'm super excited for Titan Wars, but I'd like to see a Fortress Maximus modeled after his IDW version, where he's a tank or something and is roughly voyager scale.

Va'al wrote:Pray do show this wonder!

Is it perfect? No, but Rook does have the city mode nailed, in my opinion anyway.

Nice! We're getting a Titan Fort Max but this still looks really cool. I'll have to try it when I find a Rook! Grr my bad luck!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Either that, or a life-size Alpha Bravo. Va'al would have a field day with that.

I am not worthy of Him in His magnificence made life-size.

Madeus, those actually work fairly well for a scaled down version!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Neat. Except we need a titan class one so Fort Max can reclaim his crown from Metroplex.

WRONG. What we need is a titan class Alpha Bravo.

In all seriousness though, I'm super excited for Titan Wars, but I'd like to see a Fortress Maximus modeled after his IDW version, where he's a tank or something and is roughly voyager scale.

Va'al wrote:Pray do show this wonder!

Is it perfect? No, but Rook does have the city mode nailed, in my opinion anyway.

Nice! We're getting a Titan Fort Max but this still looks really cool. I'll have to try it when I find a Rook! Grr my bad luck!

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Gene ... biner+wars?tag=seibertron07-20&

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Either that, or a life-size Alpha Bravo. Va'al would have a field day with that.

I think we all would.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Nice! We're getting a Titan Fort Max but this still looks really cool. I'll have to try it when I find a Rook! Grr my bad luck!

Regardless of his non-G1edness, he's a great little toy and is worth picking up, plus I love the gimmick of his hand, it's very fun to clip junk onto him.

Va'al wrote:Madeus, those actually work fairly well for a scaled down version!

Thanks, I just was transforming him when I saw how the legs hinged and his arms were positioned and it all just clicked!

Also, just wanted to point out that, should you get the Takara version of Defensor and want to grab Rook, use him as G1 Autotroopers!

Thanks guys! Eventhough, the knees are a bit loose due to relying on Scourge's head / thruster swivel joint, you still can get several good poses out.

Madeus Prime wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:Either that, or a life-size Alpha Bravo. Va'al would have a field day with that.

I think we all would.
(Cut for space)

Except for Rated X

Was the release of these wave 4 deluxes (Ironhide, etc.) a mistake - or are these figures really on the cusp of national retail release? I know some stores will get merchandise that they COULD put out on the shelf if they wanted to. But they wait for some kind of mysterious 'street date' release to come before they will actually put them out on the shelves.

Sometimes the grunts at Walmart, Target or some other such place will not 'get the memo' however, and we wind up with some lucky people coming across items early in stores as a result. Is this one such instance of it?

Though frustrated collectors are triggered by this into once again asking the question - if the manufacturers are so far into production that they have actual finished products, what are they waiting for...?

SkyQuake101 wrote:Thanks guys! Eventhough, the knees are a bit loose due to relying on Scourge's head / thruster swivel joint, you still can get several good poses out.

That is AWESOME!!!

Shockwave7 wrote:Was the release of these wave 4 deluxes (Ironhide, etc.) a mistake - or are these figures really on the cusp of national retail release? I know some stores will get merchandise that they COULD put out on the shelf if they wanted to. But they wait for some kind of mysterious 'street date' release to come before they will actually put them out on the shelves.

Sometimes the grunts at Walmart, Target or some other such place will not 'get the memo' however, and we wind up with some lucky people coming across items early in stores as a result. Is this one such instance of it?

Though frustrated collectors are triggered by this into once again asking the question - if the manufacturers are so far into production that they have actual finished products, what are they waiting for...?

You are right, that is quite odd. Arcee, Chromia and Brainstorm were released in December last year, which makes sense for a Quarter 4 release. These coming early tell me a few things. 1: that sadly, the Defensor wave will not have a shelf life as long as the previous waves. And thats too bad because it has, to me, the best use of the molds done so far. 2: it tells me that we will be getting Bruticus (and probably Scattershot) end of 2015 afterall.

But yeah, it is super weird to see that technically there is nothing planned for the rest of the year in terms of releases in both Generations AND Robots in Disguise (aside from leader Starscream).

william-james88 wrote:
You are right, that is quite odd. Arcee, Chromia and Brainstorm were released in December last year, which makes sense for a Quarter 4 release. These coming early tell me a few things. 1: that sadly, the Defensor wave will not have a shelf life as long as the previous waves. And thats too bad because it has, to me, the best use of the molds done so far. 2: it tells me that we will be getting Bruticus (and probably Scattershot) end of 2015 afterall.

But yeah, it is super weird to see that technically there is nothing planned for the rest of the year in terms of releases in both Generations AND Robots in Disguise (aside from leader Starscream).

It seems pretty obvious to me that they're gonna release Bruticus in maybe December this year, since the wave 4 is out so quickly. But I'm kinda wondering, do you guys think they are trying to push out the CW stuff as soon as possible, to make way for the Titan Wars stuff for next year? Seems like a possibility...

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
You are right, that is quite odd. Arcee, Chromia and Brainstorm were released in December last year, which makes sense for a Quarter 4 release. These coming early tell me a few things. 1: that sadly, the Defensor wave will not have a shelf life as long as the previous waves. And thats too bad because it has, to me, the best use of the molds done so far. 2: it tells me that we will be getting Bruticus (and probably Scattershot) end of 2015 afterall.

But yeah, it is super weird to see that technically there is nothing planned for the rest of the year in terms of releases in both Generations AND Robots in Disguise (aside from leader Starscream).

It seems pretty obvious to me that they're gonna release Bruticus in maybe December this year, since the wave 4 is out so quickly. But I'm kinda wondering, do you guys think they are trying to push out the CW stuff as soon as possible, to make way for the Titan Wars stuff for next year? Seems like a possibility...

December?!? My funds can't withstand awesomeness of that magnitude!!!

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
You are right, that is quite odd. Arcee, Chromia and Brainstorm were released in December last year, which makes sense for a Quarter 4 release. These coming early tell me a few things. 1: that sadly, the Defensor wave will not have a shelf life as long as the previous waves. And thats too bad because it has, to me, the best use of the molds done so far. 2: it tells me that we will be getting Bruticus (and probably Scattershot) end of 2015 afterall.

But yeah, it is super weird to see that technically there is nothing planned for the rest of the year in terms of releases in both Generations AND Robots in Disguise (aside from leader Starscream).

It seems pretty obvious to me that they're gonna release Bruticus in maybe December this year, since the wave 4 is out so quickly. But I'm kinda wondering, do you guys think they are trying to push out the CW stuff as soon as possible, to make way for the Titan Wars stuff for next year? Seems like a possibility...

December?!? My funds can't withstand awesomeness of that magnitude!!!

I know right? ;_; I'm probably not gonna get Unite Warriors Devastator till December! And that's $215.00! I can't just buy Transformers! I need to replace my broken mp3 player! XD