In-Hand Images of Takara Tomy Transformers Encore God Fire Convoy
Friday, March 23rd, 2018 12:01PM CDT
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You can check out the mirrored images below, showing the separate God Magnus and Fire Convoy figures in their packaging and compare it all to the first release of the figure in the Seibertron.com galleries right here!
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Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2018 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by Kyleor on March 23rd, 2018 @ 12:36pm CDT
Posted by kuhlio on March 23rd, 2018 @ 1:42pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 23rd, 2018 @ 1:58pm CDT
kuhlio wrote:Is it just me or does it look like they've included the hilt for the Matrix Sword to be held by Brave Max as well?
That sword they show in the pictures looks a lot like the perfect effect matrix sword
Where's the one that's supposed to be with it?
Posted by kuhlio on March 23rd, 2018 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:09pm CDT
kuhlio wrote:I know the original sword was a partial remold of the G1 Jap Fort/Grand Max sword with a different hilt. It looks like the hilt designed for the Fort/Grand/brave Max (G1) is included with this set so I wonder if the hilt is able to be swapped now to use the sword on both figures.
Makes me wonder if it's possible they're planning a Brave Maximus reissue.
Emerje
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:13pm CDT
The original God Fire Convoy 2-pack that came with the Super God Sword originally included both the new hilt for God Fire Convoy and the original Fort Max hilt, so this could just be following in suit with that original release's inclusion of both hilts.Emerje wrote:kuhlio wrote:I know the original sword was a partial remold of the G1 Jap Fort/Grand Max sword with a different hilt. It looks like the hilt designed for the Fort/Grand/brave Max (G1) is included with this set so I wonder if the hilt is able to be swapped now to use the sword on both figures.
Makes me wonder if it's possible they're planning a Brave Maximus reissue.
Emerje
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:44pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 23rd, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Only the out-of-package pics are of the old Hasbro version. The rest of the in-package pics are of the Encore.Wireless_Phantom wrote:Why are there pictures of the original set and not the reissue?
Posted by SmokeStack on March 26th, 2018 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2018 @ 9:37pm CDT
As you can see from these imags, the colours are different. The colours are bold and the chrome has been removed.
The recordings featured in this toy is all new. These are from the original voice cast, Satoshi Hashimoto (Fire Convoy) and Takashi Matsuyama (God Magnus). There are far more sounds in this release than the previous one, over 40. New battle sounds will be activated as the robot is combined. For more info on the sound clips, you can click here.
Alfes states that, as with the original, the upper body heavy, especially with the battery inserted. Regarding, the Super God Sword, Alfes states the handle part becomes is made of harder material, and the disassembly & assembly is very easy to do. It being such a huge sword is really helpful for poses (so they say).
Posted by Emerje on March 31st, 2018 @ 12:21am CDT
Emerje
Posted by Ultra Markus on March 31st, 2018 @ 1:05am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 31st, 2018 @ 1:19am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:wheres the big autobot symbols on the sides of Ultra-magnus
God Magnus never had on the sides, nor did Fire Convoy: they were added for the RiD Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus releases. In fact, the most common difference between Car Robot and RiD toys is just that.
Posted by Va'al on March 31st, 2018 @ 3:44am CDT
Cleans up nicely.
Posted by megamanfan on March 31st, 2018 @ 8:09am CDT
Posted by shajaki on March 31st, 2018 @ 9:38pm CDT
I'm even one of the rare people who loves chrome, so I was pretty let down to see the shiny loveliness removed for this reissue. But seeing the finished product... it looks damn good. It's more uniform, polished even. And Prime and Magnus have strikingly yellow eyes, so handsome. I'm pretty psyched for this now.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 31st, 2018 @ 11:22pm CDT
It wasn't that badly yellowed, but it was admittedly a light creamish white.shajaki wrote:Was the original Fire Convoy really that... yellow?
Posted by shajaki on April 1st, 2018 @ 1:22pm CDT
Even if the original is off-white, this is a definite improvement. All around.Sabrblade wrote:It wasn't that badly yellowed, but it was admittedly a light creamish white.shajaki wrote:Was the original Fire Convoy really that... yellow?
Posted by joevill on April 4th, 2018 @ 5:25pm CDT
Posted by shajaki on April 5th, 2018 @ 6:09pm CDT
I wasn't planning on opening him for a good while, but I'm tempted...joevill wrote:How is the quality? Is it better than the original?
Posted by Evil Eye on April 8th, 2018 @ 12:57pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on April 9th, 2018 @ 1:42am CDT
However, there seem to be more issues than previously thought with the release of the Fire Convoy and God Magnus brothers, according to a number of reports and seemingly confirmed by a post on the Taiwanese Facebook group TFCN - though the news seems to clash with the actual release of the figure, that has already happened - the figure will be recalled due to quality issues and general not very goodness.
While we wait from an official communication of sorts, let us know what you think of this news. Do you have the figure in hand? Can you confirm the reports? Is your figure also not up to standard for a new toy?
It's a little late, but the most important news today should be this.
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This is a message from the last month, the encore series, the encore series, the series of after fire command, which will be cancelled because of the quality of product quality.
Posted by Octobotimus on April 9th, 2018 @ 1:50am CDT
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:38am CDT
Posted by Evil Eye on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:40am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Destron on April 9th, 2018 @ 6:42am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on April 9th, 2018 @ 9:19am CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:Where the hell were these watch dogs when Trypticon was release huh?
to my knowledge there were no QC issues with release of Dinosaurer. Though some suspect that because they released it after Hasbro, it allowed time to make the fixes. Unfortunately I don't think Hasbro has the resources or seems to care about QC as much.
This is interesting though...as we see the product variance between and diminish and become more unified, it's nice to see that still will not let something pass that likely would not even give a second thought too. Unfortunately however, with operations moving to India, I expect things only to get worse, not better. It's sad that greed and the desire solely to make money may drive this line to at some point be indistinguishable from KO toys made and sold for a fraction of the price.
Posted by Emerje on April 9th, 2018 @ 11:49am CDT
I did just read on TFWiki that the issue is with the ankles not allowing his truck mode to tab properly, if that's all it is I can probably live with it.
Emerje
Posted by Overcracker on April 9th, 2018 @ 12:38pm CDT
i.e Prime's waist ratchet is simply too weak to hold up the waist for the combined mode, and it tends to collapse backwards if not correctly setup.
Also the ratchets in Prime's hips were not the strongest and had a tendency to buckle under the wait of the combined mode causing the combined mode to do the splits.
Basically, the combined mode was quite unstable always.
Unless there's some really bad degradation of the molds, I'm willing to bet this is just the standard issues the combined mode had and went unchecked.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 9th, 2018 @ 2:31pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Unless there's some really bad degradation of the molds, I'm willing to bet this is just the standard issues the combined mode had and went unchecked.
Last I checked the issues were mainly on Fire Convoy having parts warped and his hips so restrictive that the cab transformation is virtually impossible.
Posted by Overcracker on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:09pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Overcracker wrote:Unless there's some really bad degradation of the molds, I'm willing to bet this is just the standard issues the combined mode had and went unchecked.
Last I checked the issues were mainly on Fire Convoy having parts warped and his hips so restrictive that the cab transformation is virtually impossible.
I see.
Just watched the video from the facebook post. (Youtube's auto translation of CC, is hilarious).
The video in the Facebook post points out some flashing in the foot / roof hinge on Fire Convoy, and an issue with the thigh ratchets, where the right thigh has the click further apart than the left thigh.
Also mentions sounds swapped for the different gun modes on Magnus.
Other issues mentioned there come from the original figure, like the roof panel not sitting flush with the rest of the roof on Magnus. That was due to how the combined mode head is stored there. Mine still has that issue unless the antennae are stored correctly in there, but that causes the chrome to chip for some reason.
Posted by Emerje on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:36pm CDT
The roof of the truck cab is a bit uneven and the seam between the windows don't come together completely causing a gap at the top. It isn't great, but it doesn't ruin the figure completely for me.
Emerje
Posted by ExciKaiser on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:47pm CDT
More issues than the ones previously reported ? reported where and when ? on another news on seibertron ?
Confirmed by a number of report ? Where ? Here on seibertron ?
confirmed by a post in twaiwanese ?
I feel like reading about who is KeyserSoze without having seen the movie.
Can we have a recap, a list of the issues etc, for people like me who are not following japanese twitter accounts ?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 9th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think another issue with the set was the toy was designed during a time where a higher quality plastic was used. Has/Tak has been using a lower grade plastic for years that something like God Fire Convoy just can't handle.
Mold degradation may have a part in that as well. It's now 18 years old, and used quite a bit in the first 5 years. Most notably is the Cybertron gift set from 2005, which IIRC had this off feeling already.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 9th, 2018 @ 4:33pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:I think another issue with the set was the toy was designed during a time where a higher quality plastic was used. Has/Tak has been using a lower grade plastic for years that something like God Fire Convoy just can't handle.
Mold degradation may have a part in that as well. It's now 18 years old, and used quite a bit in the first 5 years. Most notably is the Cybertron gift set from 2005, which IIRC had this off feeling already.
Yes, it does, I have that set. It also didn't help the instructions weren't clear on how extended Optimus' legs have to be for combined mode.
Posted by Overcracker on April 9th, 2018 @ 4:43pm CDT
The waist should be at the middle notch, so Prime's head is hidden, but the crotch piece (from Magnus's chest) matches up with Prime's crotch. In other words not fully extended. Just enough so Prime's head does not block the Magnus torso piece from sitting flush with the shoulders.
Posted by megamanfan on April 9th, 2018 @ 5:02pm CDT
1: prime's cab doesn't fit together perfectly. the arm panels are actually to blame for this, they're slightly warped and don't sit flush with the top of the truck.
2: one missile really, REALLY likes to fire off even if you don't touch it.
3: the panel that covers the hole the combined mode head leaves behind doesn't sit flush, in either combined or vehicle mode.
4: UM's hands don't peg into prime's without sanding them down first.
5: plastic quality in prime's vehicle back end feels... off. if you try to move the ladder ,it bends the connection points between pieces. not in a way that permanently damages it, but enough to cause worry
6: prime's legs leave a small gap in the cab when in vehicle mode.
7: the pieces that are screwed together to make prime's base shoulders don't line up with each other.
8: some of the plastic parts on UM split along the seams, where they'd normally be glued to held together. he still holds together and transforms fine, but it's worth mentioning.
i haven't tested the electronics because i didn't care about putting in batteries.
now, a few things to note:
1: the plastic quality overall feels good. a few parts seem worrying, but they'll likely disconnect before breaking.
2: paint is good
3: the joints are all solid, and i found not a single one that needed tightening.
4: everything still transforms and combines perfectly fine.
Posted by fenrir72 on April 9th, 2018 @ 8:19pm CDT
Then back in 2009, I purchased a 2nd hand Fire Convoy off ebay. My first ebay purchase. The chrome was a bit discolored but joints wise, very stiff. When combined with the JP God Magnus ( I later ditched my Hb versions), the JP God FireConvoy was very stable with no tilting( I repeat, my Fire Convoy was pre owned already.
So in a period of 2 years from car Robots and RID, the Fire Convoy mold already degraded.
What more after 18 years.So issue like this are no surprise (Heck, even the Bruticus mold (Onslaught especially had those flash marks)
Posted by william-james88 on April 9th, 2018 @ 10:34pm CDT
Well, fellow Seibertronian megamanfan wrote down all the issues this rerelease has, from experience with the toy. So, if anyone is still wondering if this is worth getting and what the fuss is all about, here are the words from megamanfan:
megamanfan wrote:i got mine a few days ago. here's some problems I've encountered:
1: prime's cab doesn't fit together perfectly. the arm panels are actually to blame for this, they're slightly warped and don't sit flush with the top of the truck.
2: one missile really, REALLY likes to fire off even if you don't touch it.
3: the panel that covers the hole the combined mode head leaves behind doesn't sit flush, in either combined or vehicle mode.
4: UM's hands don't peg into prime's without sanding them down first.
5: plastic quality in prime's vehicle back end feels... off. if you try to move the ladder ,it bends the connection points between pieces. not in a way that permanently damages it, but enough to cause worry
6: prime's legs leave a small gap in the cab when in vehicle mode.
7: the pieces that are screwed together to make prime's base shoulders don't line up with each other.
8: some of the plastic parts on UM split along the seams, where they'd normally be glued to held together. he still holds together and transforms fine, but it's worth mentioning.
I haven't tested the electronics because I didn't care about putting in batteries.
now, a few things to note:
1: the plastic quality overall feels good. a few parts seem worrying, but they'll likely disconnect before breaking.
2: paint is good
3: the joints are all solid, and i found not a single one that needed tightening.
4: everything still transforms and combines perfectly fine.
Posted by william-james88 on April 9th, 2018 @ 11:44pm CDT
Just FYI: Yeap, there was product recall email sent out last Friday by Hasbro Singapore to all Singapore retailers. The recall was due to IC Chip Issue, but there was more than that. You can go to Amazon Japan and see their product feedback on this item. 69% of the feedback is 1 star. Amazon Japan has stopped selling this item.
More detail about product recall. Takara Tomy will issue official statement on April 11. Customer can return this product on voluntary basis, by no later than April 20. No replacement will be offered.
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Posted by SpikeyTigertron on April 10th, 2018 @ 12:43am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 10th, 2018 @ 12:50am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:So being recalled.... would that up the value if you held on to it? Or would it be known as a lemon.... and worth less in the long run? I have the original RiD release; but the non-chrome and sword are tempting.
No, yes, wait for the fixed release.
Posted by Emerje on April 10th, 2018 @ 3:42am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:So being recalled.... would that up the value if you held on to it? Or would it be known as a lemon.... and worth less in the long run? I have the original RiD release; but the non-chrome and sword are tempting.
No, yes, wait for the fixed release.
If they aren't offering a replacement they may not be planing a fix. I'm going to keep mine, mainly because it would cost a lot to ship it back to Japan and I doubt AmiAmi would refund the shipping costs here or back. In the end I'll have spent nearly as much on all the shipping as the set itself cost.
If they do offer it again with everything fixed I'll probably just buy it a second time... We'll see what they have to say today.
Emerje
Posted by Evil Eye on April 10th, 2018 @ 8:10am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on April 10th, 2018 @ 8:41am CDT
Posted by optimeow on April 10th, 2018 @ 8:43am CDT
I foresee TT releasing it down the road with fewer sound effects because this edition has more than the original.
Don’t see much improvements to QC because I have dozens of TFs modified over the years due to QC issues. Even my 1988 Made in Japan Takara God Jinrai had QC issues back then.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 10th, 2018 @ 11:46am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on April 10th, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT