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Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:39am CST
Every detail matches up perfectly.
Posted by Seibertron on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:44am CST
william-james88 wrote:Yup, its an upscale of DOTM
Every detail matches up perfectly.
Except for all of the details that don't match up.
Perhaps it just shares similar engineering?
Posted by Evil Eye on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:46am CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:49am CST
Seibertron wrote:Except for all of the details that don't match up.
Perhaps it just shares similar engineering?
Its far more than that. I am comparing to joints and parts and where they are found on the toy, and that all matches up.
Its an upscale the same way these toys were upscales too:
Is a compeletly new mold, it has to be at that scale. But its based on the deluxes toy. Its not like they tried reinventing the wheel with this one.
Posted by Seibertron on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:49am CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:52am CST
Plase read my comment above, I am not referring to the detailing on the parts (so yes, detail was the wrong word to choose) but where all the parts are match up and is similar to the differnece found in previous upscales Hasbro performed.
Posted by Seibertron on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:52am CST
william-james88 wrote:Is a compeletly new mold, it has to be at that scale. But its based on the deluxes toy. Its not like they tried reinventing the wheel with this one.
Fair enough! Just wanted to state that after your all-encompassing comment above
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:55am CST
Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Is a compeletly new mold, it has to be at that scale. But its based on the deluxes toy. Its not like they tried reinventing the wheel with this one.
Fair enough! Just wanted to state that after your all-encompassing comment above
Haha, yes, I definitely set myself up for that, so fair enough!
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 11:59am CST
Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 9th, 2018 @ 12:10pm CST
This Predaking mold is actually a very bad example in this case because he's anything but a simple upscalewilliam-james88 wrote:Its an upscale the same way these toys were upscales too:
And since when is Seibertron itself active in discussions?Seibertron wrote:Except for all of the details that don't match up.
Perhaps it just shares similar engineering?
It's like Primus intervening in a little chitchat between Swerve and Whirl
Posted by Randomhero on March 9th, 2018 @ 12:15pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 12:31pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:This Predaking mold is actually a very bad example in this case because he's anything but a simple upscale
My argument was that he was an upscale and that was it, simplicity wasnt part of it. As much effort might have gone into turning that deluxe Starscream into a voyager as the amount of effort into turning the commander Predaking into that beast of a figure.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 9th, 2018 @ 12:35pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:This Predaking mold is actually a very bad example in this case because he's anything but a simple upscale
My argument was that he was an upscale and that was it, simplicity wasnt part of it. As much effort might have gone into turning that deluxe Starscream into a voyager as the amount of effort into turning the commander Predaking into that beast of a figure.
But "upscaled" Voyager Predaking is a very different mold compared to its Commander class figure.
And Starscream got just upscaled with very few minor improvements.
Posted by Seibertron on March 9th, 2018 @ 1:25pm CST
Lunatic Prime wrote:And since when is Seibertron itself active in discussions?
It's like Primus intervening in a little chitchat between Swerve and Whirl
Ah haha haha ... wow, you compared me to Primus? LOL! My head has been out of the game for a little while thanks to Christmas, my wife's Grandma and my Mom both passing away, along with other life events in the past 6 months, but I'm trying to get my head back into all of this. Site redesign from last summer needs to be finished, Heavy Metal War needs some long overdue love, and galleries are (very loudly) calling my name!!!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 9th, 2018 @ 1:45pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Yup, its an upscale of DOTM
Every detail matches up perfectly.
With added improvements.
This make the BEST voyager Starscream so far.
I thought I was done with Movie Starscream, but this unexpected voyager will be a MUST buy.
And then, there will be the sureshot MPM version...
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 9th, 2018 @ 3:32pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:Is a compeletly new mold, it has to be at that scale. But its based on the deluxes toy. Its not like they tried reinventing the wheel with this one.
Fair enough! Just wanted to state that after your all-encompassing comment above
Haha, yes, I definitely set myself up for that, so fair enough!
From what I can tell, it's upscaled BUT extra joints have been added, such as rotating wrists, for example.
Posted by RAR on March 9th, 2018 @ 3:48pm CST
But he's pretty much the same basic idea. Lets be honest if I didn't have both toys side by side - I think I'd just see the extremely similar legs, the hinge parts on the underside of the wings the chest and head - and assume he's a barely altered upscale.
Not that I mind that - as it's not like the Deluxe was a bad toy.
I also like that the new one is in 2007 colours that is at least a nice feature to distinguish the two.
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I'm left scratching my head a bit about Thundercracker though as with TRU about to fall off a cliff - I expect I'll have to import one from Asia or rely on someone offering to help me get one some other way.
Shame really as Thundercracker is actually the single most interesting piece in the entire line to me - now I know the 1974 Bumblebee is somewhat lacking. I don't think Hasbro UK has the wit to offer it to Sainsbury's / Argos instead though if the Toys R Us UK outlet isn't available to sell through in the UK.
Posted by Emerje on March 9th, 2018 @ 4:01pm CST
Emerje
Posted by RAR on March 9th, 2018 @ 4:21pm CST
Emerje wrote:So really all they upscaled was the transformation, everything else (sculpt, joints) is different.
Emerje
Look more closely the surface details are REALLY SIMILAR..
More similar than dis-similar. - even the placement of the 5mm holes is the same (like on the underside of the tail and the upper for arms - even has similar hands. It's like they opened the CAD files for the Deluxe and just inflated the thing 30% and then fiddled with some details.
If you compare other things like two Random RID Grimlocks for example you are not likely to find two that match this closely in different scales in terms of how they transform and such.
I'm not judging this toys for being a quick and dirty upscale at all - heck I can think of a lot of toys I'd love to see get similar treatment (especially some 2008-2011 toys).
But there is less 'new work' on display here than on Jazz and Lockdown.
That doesn't mean I dislike it though.
But if you want me to be brutally frank I have a less than stellar opinion of the whole line really - Like I doubt I'll bother chasing any of it besides maybe Thundercracker - the rest I'll just get if I fall over it.
Brawl looks quite nice though. I'm just not overly bothered as I didn't really have much to complain about the ones I already had - if there is one thing we have plenty of it's Movie Optimus Prime toys.
If they really want to spend some resources more wisely perhaps a new Mould Western Star Legion Optimus or a Legion Cogman would be a better place to spend some of that cash.
I'd likely have been more excited by some new Cyberverse Commander class moulds. It's just not where I am mentally collecting wise at the time being.
But now they have the brand if they want to make a Movie accurate recolour of Scorn's Voyager I'd not complain.
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Speaking of Thundercracker ;
I think the Nitro Zeus Mould work quite well if you think outside the box.
Consider these :
http://www.tfu.info/1997/Decepticon/Thu ... racker.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2005/Decepticon/Thu ... racker.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/BCT ... racker.htm
http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Thu ... racker.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/Ove ... ercast.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2011/Decepticon/Dot ... racker.htm
http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/Thu ... racker.htm
I see him as not unlike a blend of all of those.
The weaponised Arms are not unlike some of those - the colours are not unheard off on a Thundercracker especially the G1 toy.
The lift engines and asymmetrical arms are like the Machine Wars "Botcon" one.
The vehicle mode is very similar to the original 'Basic' Machine Wars one.
I think the earlier suggestion of considering him as a just off screen DOTM Decepticon is a good way to approach him.
Posted by Centaurus Prime on March 9th, 2018 @ 10:16pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 10:18pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 9th, 2018 @ 10:24pm CST
william-james88 wrote:I havent seen many pics of Crowbar, has anyone compared him to Berserker to see how much is new?
Baltmatrix has them side-by-side, at the 1:00 mark for robot, and at 8:15 for vehicle:
In short, it's way more new parts than old.
Posted by william-james88 on March 9th, 2018 @ 10:32pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:In short, it's way more new parts than old.
Yeah, basically the entire robot mode minus the crotch.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on March 10th, 2018 @ 2:17am CST
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 10th, 2018 @ 8:20pm CST
This is my third of the four Studio deluxes. I have to say, I'm impressed. I think I'm going to go on and get Crowbar, and the rest of the line, just to support it. Its nice to see new designs. I'm a big fan of that over repaints.
Posted by Va'al on March 11th, 2018 @ 5:08am CDT
The toy is a redeco of the Transformers The Last Knight Nitro Zeus figure, with Titan Master / Headmaster gimmick and a new headsculpt - while the gimmick is intact, there is no smaller figure formed by the head, however - and mostly blue and grey to cover the light grey of the original toy. You can check out some comparison images below, and a full video review in Spanish!
UPDATE: Diatron sent us some more images, if you prefer your visual to be static instead of video! Check them out below, including some shots of the underside of the box showing the codes you might need to seek out what is most likely to be the last Toys R Us exclusive figure, not only for Transformers.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 5:19am CDT
Does make me wish we also go thim in Purple with a shockwave head, or if they'd done Skyquake
Posted by partholon on March 11th, 2018 @ 5:56am CDT
what a difference a head makes !
its a pity titans returns never did a starscream head. then you could swap it out.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 11th, 2018 @ 6:26am CDT
partholon wrote:gods thats hideious.
what a difference a head makes !
Well, all the Movie have alien/monster heads. ¯\_ツ_/¯
I personally find that TC awesome and I may break my own rule and buy it right away at full price when it come out in store. For my SEALED Thundercracker collection.
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 11th, 2018 @ 6:33am CDT
partholon wrote:gods thats hideious.
what a difference a head makes !
its a pity titans returns never did a starscream head. then you could swap it out.
Titans Return didn't, but Takara' Legends did:
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Posted by Emerje on March 11th, 2018 @ 6:33am CDT
partholon wrote:gods thats hideious.
what a difference a head makes !
its a pity titans returns never did a starscream head. then you could swap it out.
The sculpt exists, it was used By Takara Tomy for Ghost Starscream.
Whether or not the sculpt was made just for this release like some of their other 2-pack Headmasters is unknown, but it does use the Nightbeat body. And more importantly the mold exists now so there's always a possibility Hasbro could use it in the future.
Emerje
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 6:47am CDT
Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 6:49am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:01am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
I disagree. Nitro Zeus especially looks fine in any CHUG collection, whereas Cogman's body is a suitable host for Spike/Galen/Fortress.
I'm fact, with a slightly retooled chest and recolouring, it would make a great Nightbeat body, IMO.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:01am CDT
Repainted/-tooled into?SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
A more classic Thundercracker head?
Why Cogman in particular?
Not yet.SpikeyTigertron wrote:Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:04am CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:Repainted/-tooled into?SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
A more classic Thundercracker head?
Why Cogman in particular?Not yet.SpikeyTigertron wrote:Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Because Cogman was meant to take Nitro's body when he lost his head in a deleted scene from the film. That's why Nitro has got a removable head (which doesn't transform) and Cogman is a Headmaster (because he was meant to Transform into a head for Nitro in the film).
Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:08am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Repainted/-tooled into?SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
A more classic Thundercracker head?
Why Cogman in particular?Not yet.SpikeyTigertron wrote:Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Because Cogman was meant to take Nitro's body when he lost his head in a deleted scene from the film. That's why Nitro has got a removable head (which doesn't transform) and Cogman is a Headmaster (because he was meant to Transform into a head for Nitro in the film).
I know that but he's talking about Thundercracker. So why should Thundercracker come with a recolored or retooled head of Cogman in particular?
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:32am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
I disagree. Nitro Zeus especially looks fine in any CHUG collection, whereas Cogman's body is a suitable host for Spike/Galen/Fortress.
I'm fact, with a slightly retooled chest and recolouring, it would make a great Nightbeat body, IMO.
I'll admit that Spike on Cogman looks pretty darn good. Though he looks most at home on Fort Max's head.
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:33am CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Repainted/-tooled into?SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
A more classic Thundercracker head?
Why Cogman in particular?Not yet.SpikeyTigertron wrote:Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Because Cogman was meant to take Nitro's body when he lost his head in a deleted scene from the film. That's why Nitro has got a removable head (which doesn't transform) and Cogman is a Headmaster (because he was meant to Transform into a head for Nitro in the film).
I know that but he's talking about Thundercracker. So why should Thundercracker come with a recolored or retooled head of Cogman in particular?
I think they meant if they released Nitro again, instead of Thundercracker, and with a newly retooled Cogman.
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:34am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
I disagree. Nitro Zeus especially looks fine in any CHUG collection, whereas Cogman's body is a suitable host for Spike/Galen/Fortress.
I'm fact, with a slightly retooled chest and recolouring, it would make a great Nightbeat body, IMO.
I'll admit that Spike on Cogman looks pretty darn good. Though he looks most at home on Fort Max's head.
You mean Cerebros?
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:47am CDT
Lunatic Prime wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Repainted/-tooled into?SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
A more classic Thundercracker head?
Why Cogman in particular?Not yet.SpikeyTigertron wrote:Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Because Cogman was meant to take Nitro's body when he lost his head in a deleted scene from the film. That's why Nitro has got a removable head (which doesn't transform) and Cogman is a Headmaster (because he was meant to Transform into a head for Nitro in the film).
I know that but he's talking about Thundercracker. So why should Thundercracker come with a recolored or retooled head of Cogman in particular?
I'd Counter, why does he currently have BW Inferno's face on himself? I just think it would have been nice to have a head/titan master. and *if* they wanted to keep the "movie look" well cogman would have *the* option
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:48am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
I disagree. Nitro Zeus especially looks fine in any CHUG collection, whereas Cogman's body is a suitable host for Spike/Galen/Fortress.
I'm fact, with a slightly retooled chest and recolouring, it would make a great Nightbeat body, IMO.
I'll admit that Spike on Cogman looks pretty darn good. Though he looks most at home on Fort Max's head.
You mean Cerebros?
yeah. though wasn't the Brave Max pretender shell based off the same design?
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:50am CDT
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 11th, 2018 @ 7:51am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
I disagree. Nitro Zeus especially looks fine in any CHUG collection, whereas Cogman's body is a suitable host for Spike/Galen/Fortress.
I'm fact, with a slightly retooled chest and recolouring, it would make a great Nightbeat body, IMO.
I'll admit that Spike on Cogman looks pretty darn good. Though he looks most at home on Fort Max's head.
You mean Cerebros?
yeah. though wasn't the Brave Max pretender shell based off the same design?
I'm sorry? What's the pretender shell got to do with this discussion?
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:Repainted/-tooled into?SpikeyTigertron wrote:While Titan Master compatible. I can't really say the *regular* heads really match the level of detail/asthetic that the movie line brings. Now if it came with a repainted/tooled cogman... that'd have been interesting.
A more classic Thundercracker head?
Why Cogman in particular?Not yet.SpikeyTigertron wrote:Given the vtols I *am* surprised they didn't release him as a *new* movie Thrust (the repaint/tool of.... slingshot (?) )
Because Cogman was meant to take Nitro's body when he lost his head in a deleted scene from the film. That's why Nitro has got a removable head (which doesn't transform) and Cogman is a Headmaster (because he was meant to Transform into a head for Nitro in the film).
I know that but he's talking about Thundercracker. So why should Thundercracker come with a recolored or retooled head of Cogman in particular?
I'd Counter, why does he currently have BW Inferno's face on himself? I just think it would have been nice to have a head/titan master. and *if* they wanted to keep the "movie look" well cogman would have *the* option
Why would Cogman be with a BLUE repaint? That doesn't make any sense.
Posted by Lunatic Prime on March 11th, 2018 @ 8:13am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Lunatic Prime wrote:So why should Thundercracker come with a recolored or retooled head of Cogman in particular?
I'd Counter, why does he currently have BW Inferno's face on himself?
His head is kind of a mixture of the ones below.
The beak design of his forehead reminds me of (movie) Starscream and Airazor and there's kinda an antennae design, too, which reminds me of Waspinator.
The eyes also remind me of Waspinator's and now that you say it I get an Inferno vibe from him, too.
Edit: And the way his head widens on the bottom is also Starscream's design.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 11th, 2018 @ 8:17am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2018 @ 8:26am CDT
Besides, why would the current design team headed by people who don't care for Beast Wars design a headsculpt with Beast Wars influences?
Posted by Ironhidensh on March 11th, 2018 @ 8:32am CDT
I thought the point of this line was to be all new molds?
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2018 @ 8:34am CDT
Since it's a store exclusive, can we really consider this figure to take up a slot in the main line, instead of it being an on-the-side thing?Ironhidensh wrote:I still don't understand why they are wasting a Studio Series slot with this crappy (sorry, my opinion) repaint of a crappy (again, just my humble opinion) TLK figure?
I thought the point of this line was to be all new molds?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 11th, 2018 @ 8:36am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:I still don't understand why they are wasting a Studio Series slot with this crappy (sorry, my opinion) repaint of a crappy (again, just my humble opinion) TLK figure?
I thought the point of this line was to be all new molds?
>Nitro
>A crappy figure
Well, there's always must be that one guy, right? ¯\_◔ ε ◔_/¯